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'poem' I remember Fallout : New Vegas I remember my helmet I remember my shoulder pad pauldron(s) and a screen shot of limping I remember playing, I remember living I remember being I'm going to get my thing(s) I'm going to get my way I'm going to find my love(s) I'm going to and ain't a damn thing I miss my Oblivion Gate I miss my Jacques I miss the relationship(s), 'I love'. I am not different I cannot change I'm not going I'm not staying I'm better than this http://putlockers.dance/watch/zGWwBXGP-stranger-things-season-2.html Posted by Nathaniel Carlson at 2:25 PM No comments: Email This BlogThis! 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Rolled New Character: Shouldn't the horse from the Imperial Edition still be at stalls to buy cheap ... this will place a check mark on it to show it is the active mount. Activate Imperial Features with ESO Plus? — Elder... Apr 19, 2017 How to call your horse? — Elder Scrolls Online Jun 09, 2015 Console: Imperial Edition: Imperial Horse How To... Jun 10, 2015 Rolled New Character: Shouldn't the horse from the Imperial ... forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/... You just have to go into your collections menu and select set active on imperial horse. I think imperial edition owners just got a boost, before the imperial horse cost 1 gold and was not as good as the other higher end/cost horses, now they are the same as all other mounts and are free with no gold cost lol Imperial Horse not there... :: The Elder Scrolls Online English steamcommunity.com/app/306130/discussions/0/... Press U, to bring up the collectables menu. Then set the Imperial horse to your active mount, and exit the menu. You should be able to summon it with H (or whatever you have bound your mount summon button to). The collectables menu also has your pets. How does the horse mount system work in ESO? The Imperial ... www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/1... How does the horse mount system work in ESO? The Imperial Edition horse bonus is said to mirror the stats of a regular in-game horse, I take it the most basic type? (self.elderscrollsonline) submitted 5 years ago by i3lueHorneT ESO: Where and how to get the Imperial horse! [SOLVED] www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU5mr7AnfZo ESO: Where and how to get the Imperial horse! [SOLVED] ... but for some reason I can't find out how to get the Imperial horse. I see its unlocked, but when I get to the stables it is not there ... How do I use/summon my mount ? : elderscrollsonline - reddit www.reddit.com/.../how_do_i_usesummon_my_mount So this is probably a dumb question but I recently started playing ESO and bought the gold edition which comes with a horse and I can see it in my collections window I clicked it and it has a little check mark in the upper left corner but I can't figure out how to summon it? Mounts in Elder Scrolls Online - ESO Life teso.mmorpg-life.com/mounts-elder-scrolls-online Mounts in Elder Scrolls Online You can buy your first horse / mount at any major city Stable (marked with a horse icon on the map), for approximately 17,500 gold. Stable interface allows you to buy, access, feed, rename and sell your horse. Mounts - Full Guide - Elder Scrolls Online (ESO) Database ... elderscrollsonline.info/guides/mounts For example, if next I bought a Draft Horse, I could not have my Imperial Horse and Draft Horse active for riding at the same time, but I could go to the stable and switch The Imperial Horse out for my Draft Horse and back again when I wanted to, because they both have their space (slot) at the stable. So we can take turns riding the Horses we own. Mounts In ESO » ESO Academy esoacademy.com/mounts Horses. Horses were the first mount in Elder Scrolls Online and can be purchased from the stables in any major city. There are 4 types of horses available from the stables. If you purchase the Imperial Edition you will have access to the Imperial Horse in your Collections UI. TESO Mounts and Horses Guide - The Elder Scrolls Online ... www.elderscrollsguides.com/mounts While there’s nothing groundbreaking concerning mounts in The Elder Scrolls Online, it was worthwhile mentioning the basics of them. If you pre-ordered the game and have access to Imperial Horse you surely won’t regret it as it will save you a lot of time leveling early on. If you don’t have an Imperial Horse, the cheapest Light Horse ... 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Evidence: Matrix Film type Interfaced People into a Duplicated Population Simulation Argument Reality Combination

At the present time there are almost 100 pages of very coherent ‘evidence’ on this site that we are simulated, software defined people living in an entirely artificial and ‘observably’ anomaly ridden reality. There are also about 500 ‘older’ pages describing and discussing a wide range of decades of ‘research’ of my explorations of subtle energy, ‘spirit’, spiritual realities, energetic healing as well as commentary on the new age population and lightwork. These pages document my unfolding and continually changing ‘understandings’ as well as the conclusions I have in time, been forced to come to that then ‘naturally’ led me to speculate on the ‘crazy’ possibility that ‘perhaps’ we are simulated people living in a ‘simulation’.

The simulation pages you will find here use our own basic knowledge of operational simulations (that are in common use here) as a ‘logical’ starting point to apply some simple & extended reasoned ‘thinking’ lines that then very naturally and ‘unbelievably’ lead us to become aware of all sorts of very obvious ‘anomalies & artefacts’ that a simulated copied reality absolutely CANNOT AVOID HAVING PRESENTED TO OURSELVES, what is very ‘worrying’ for ourselves, is that every single one of these ‘anomalies & artefacts’ are visibly present in our own reality . . .
EVERY SINGLE ONE!!!

The bottom line is that there is much presented on this site that you won’t find presented elsewhere, ‘IF’ you are new here and you are are a curious / searching / enquiring type and or are trying to understand WTF is going on in your life / with yourself / your relationships and or in an overall sense what is ‘happening’ in our own little ‘demented’ reality here ‘EVERYWHERE’ (and more importantly ‘why’) then I advise that you read this entire page first to give yourself some ‘basic’ grounding in terms of the full scale of what is presented on this site as well as it’s historical ‘unfolding’ context.

‘AFTER’ and this is very IMPORTANT, AFTER you have read all that is below then the ‘best’ page to read to give you a comprehensive foundation both of the Matrix as well a a duplicated copied people simulation types of fake reality which ALSO provides lots of links to other key pages on this site . . . then click on and read this page here: Matrix Film, Plato’s Cave, Theory of Forms, Metempsychosis & Platonic Dualism Comparisons
How Personal, Dedicated/Daily Self Explorations Lead to Deeper & Deeper Understandings About the Nature of our Reality . . .

I am ‘Clive Hetherington’ I have been studying, researching, exploring and above all seriously questioning ‘the nature of all facets of our reality, health and healing’ and our approaches to address and resolve health and healing issues for over 35 years. I had a very strong vested interest in trying to understand never mind resolve some serious and debilitating personal issues because I personally ‘HAD’ many (these are listed on this page here) . . . . . . . I ended up spending decades orientating myself to ‘myself’ and my inner states as part of exploring way beyond the edge to be able to resolve each of my original issues properly (this is explained in more detail on this page here (which includes ‘exercises’ to help you start to do this for yourself)).

Now, because there are ‘decades’ of my ‘work’ presented on this web site, then to avoid confusion (because I’ve researched indepth many things and on gradually finding each of them severely ‘inadequate’ I’ve then ‘moved on’ and took my investigations and research to deeper levels) then I’ll give a brief ‘timeline’ relating to the different distinct ‘sections’ offered here. This is because some people have been ‘confounded’ because it ‘appears’ as if some pages here contradict other pages. This is because they do, and this is because as my experiences and exploration efforts have changed then my understandings and then my perspectives on what I ‘have been‘ involved in, in the past have then changed and in some cases/during some phases quite drastically/dramatically.

Firstly, there are what I have labelled as my ‘Original SoulWork Articles’ these describe my earlier explorations and experiences while trying to gain understanding of and resolve some of my own persistent and debilitating issues. In some of these earlier articles I gave ‘hints’ about some ‘disturbing’ things that I was finding because I was dedicated to openly understand and find means to COMPLETELY resolve everything that ‘contributed’ to my issues at their ‘origins’.

Which essentially had me accessing a separate/independent ‘parallel’ reality/realm which turned out to ‘represent’ where my interfaced ‘subtle’ body form originated
Gaining Awareness of a Parallel Higher Frequency, Invisible Spiritual Reality/Real via Self Orientation/Self Healing Efforts

Then we have the; ‘Scary, Shocking Article Series’ which present depths of to be honest very ‘worrying’ information and detail on healing, therapies and new age and lightwork as well as spiritual topics that I’ve not seen presented elsewhere:
No one else would ‘actually’ dare write these, because:
In Healing, Spiritual, Subtle & New Age terms, they ‘Contradict’ . . .
EVERYTHING!!!!

My debilitating life issues forced me to ask difficult, enquiring but ‘realistic’ questions. For example about how subtle energetic healing ‘actually’ REALLY works, what is actually ‘really’ being done and ‘why’ for example? What is ‘actually’ and ‘fundamentally’ responsible for peoples negative and debilitating issues and what is ACTUALLY REALLY needed to address every single thing that has ever contributed to any specific debilitating issue. This second set of articles describe my experiences and what I found when exploring the subtle reality directly and deeply while beginning to gain some understanding of the ‘real’ subtle causes of my own (and as a healer) others debilitating issues directly myself rather than assume that our current ‘healing tools and therapeutic approaches’ or so called spirit or healing guides already know ‘everything’ and are actually dealing with all that is contributing to any issue properly at their origins. Shocking it turns out that ‘they’ and ‘WE’ aren’t dealing with anything properly!!!

Just in case any one reading this has being backed into a ‘sceptical’ corner then I should perhaps point out that my ‘original’ training and ‘profession’ was as a medical research scientist (research papers I contributed to in this early phase can be found here).

So, what is presented on this site is the work of a very competent ‘real’ scientist unhampered by any straight jacketed assumptions such as: ‘there is only the physical and you can only research ‘properly’ what you can physically see and record’.

Some basics about ourselves and ‘reality’ may come in handy . . . so here they are:

The ‘majority’ of people in our population here are simulating someone whom as a subtle being (living within a subtle energetic strata that is ‘parallel’ to the physical (the subtle can be thought of as high frequency ‘matter’). The simulated subtle form of most people here is then simulated as being interfaced to a simulated animal form (more commonly referred to as a ‘human’ here).

The evidence of ourselves as subtle beings that are ‘incarnated’ i.e. that is ‘interfaced’ to an animal form is ‘extensive’. It does however take some dedicated ‘thinking’ effort to identify and ‘put together’ the clues relating to this possibility. To peruse the evidence that is ‘highly’ suggestive of ourselves being subtle beings interfaced to a physical animal form then read this page:

How a ‘Matrix Reality’ Model of Subtle Form Interfaced to a Physical Animal Body Explains & Validates many Anomalous, Paranormal & Spiritual Experiences.

This page provides an eminently reasoned and logical basis for ourselves as subtle beings as well as providing a valid basis for the so called ‘spiritual’ information that is presented by various people within our simulated reality here. To ‘start’ to get your head around some logical and reasoned ‘simplistic BASICS’ then I’d advise that you read the linked page about 2/3 times to give yourself a decent starting baseline. The above page will KILL AS DEAD AS A DODO any idea you or anyone else has that our reality is in the slightest ‘real’ – it AIN’T . . .

‘IF we are all androgynous asexual subtle beings, being interfaced to a bizarre two gendered male and female divided physical human body form then you can with some more ‘modest’ thinking effort deduce a whole raft of anomalies associated with gender that will be presented within this population.

Coincidentally, this page here:

Androgynous, Asexual Subtle Forms Interfaced to a Two Gendered Physical Body Will Present Anomalies Related to Gender Explains & Validate Transgender Experiences

Does just this . . . and ‘reveals’ that every anomalous ‘gender’ presentation you can deduce will arise if androgynous folks are being interfaced to and divided into human males and females life after lifetime WE HAVE THEM ALL PRESENTED RIGHT HERE. As such you are also recommended to read that page a few times to . . . and particularly if you want to have some baseline understanding of WTF is going on here AND how easy it has been to prevent people from figuring out the obvious ‘implications and that explain many of the anomalies here and ‘particularly’ anomalous experiences that are not only consistent for many people BUT which have also been consistent through long spans of time too . . . in other words many people present the same i.e. many have say gender issues and or awareness of none physical presences for example AND these anomalies have been consistently experiences for many people for decades, if not many centuries . . .
An Example of Advanced ‘Reality’ Research Investigating & Compiling Evidence of ‘Simulation’ Translated Human Form Origins

Let me give you an example of how my head joins dots between ‘apparently’ disparate sets of information . . .

If you do actually read the pages I recommend above AND you read some of the simulation evidence pages then you may be allowed (after some concerted ‘thinking’ effort) to figure out that the simulation / physical con combination actually ‘implies’ some annoying and ‘obviously’ highly delusional ‘impossibilities’ which is that we should actually have many intelligent ‘people’ here, actually ‘living’ as many different animal species. I.e. not just as humans.

Hark!!!, I can here the gasps of disbelief already!!!

You will have to bare with me for a few paragraphs!! The simulation we are all living within attempts to ‘disappear’ some of the more obvious ‘simulation’ clues (that even scientist types may become suspicious of) by sneakily converting (by means of automated species translation software) all species of intelligent animal forms into the one size fits all ‘human’ meat suit.

NO WAY!!! This cannot be true, I hear you exclaim!!!

I mean really!!! Come ONNNN!!! If this was true then some academic or scientist ‘somewhere / anywhere in fact’ would have ‘already’ spotted some of the obvious clues of this being done? Surely, if this was correct then one or two of them would have done this by now? Yes, that is what you would ‘expect’!!!

On the other hand, could you, YES ‘YOU‘ reading this compile evidence that would strongly suggest or even ‘shock horror’ confirm this possibility? MMMMmmmm? Could you?
The ‘Ultimate’ Basic Observation Abilities, Basic ‘Figuring Out’ Skills, Intelligence & THINKING ‘Competency’ TEST . . .

OK, then!!! Here is something for you to spend time ‘chewing’ over!!! The best thing to do as a start is to select some specific ‘animal’ form/species that is ridiculously, unbelievably different to the human form. It’s best to do this as this will make it easier for you to figure out the clues. Now, just to make it easier for you I’m going to pick a ‘CRAB’ form for you to ‘attempt’ to spend time thinking about in ways that may have you figuring out some of the evidence clues to ‘support’ this ‘crazy’ possibility . . .

Now, I’m specifically picking a ‘Crab’ form because it is likely to be the most different animal form you can possibly have compared to a human? In picking such a massively different animal form, it will be much easier to think about and to then become aware of any crab originated ‘behaviour and physical body difference’ clues?

To, help you do this FASTER, then all you need to do is to spend some time ‘imagining’ what it would be like to be a crab, living moment, by moment, day in day out as an eight legged, two fingered, armoured, flat topped creature living and moving around mostly underwater. As you are doing this ‘as a crab’ then every so often switch to ‘human’ and compare what the differences are. Doing this will help you to become aware of crab to human body differences which will perhaps won’t translate well into a human form? Spending some time looking at pictures and videos of crabs will also help to make you aware of the obvious physical differences as well as the embedded ‘crab’ behaviours that are starting point clues!!!! Embedded behaviours such as a crab will ALWAYS pick up and put food into its mouth using hands that ALL THE TIME just have one finger and a single thumb. This ‘might’ ignite some ‘cognitive processes’ all on its own!!!!

So, your ‘impossible’ mission is to figure out some of the really, REALLY stupidly obvious CLUES that have ALWAYS been eminently ‘observable’ to ‘all’ alleged humans here that all add up to ‘worrying’ proof that some simulation designer actually had the audacity to (in plain sight) convert incarnated ‘crab’ people into humans. . .

I should also mention that this is ‘not’ a joke, it is ‘actually’ stupidly obvious who our ‘crab’ people here are. So, if ‘you’ reading this manage to become aware of some of the literally 100’s of humans as crabs clues then, quite simply the very next ‘stark’ question is this . . .
Just what ‘ELSE’ HAS EVERYONE MISSED!!!!
That is ALSO in PLAIN SIGHT
3. Simulation Argument & Evidence that we are in a Simulation

So, having spent almost 3 decades engaging with and directly investigating, and STRIPPING DOWN the subtle strata of reality, then despite that the subtle strata of reality is entirely real (at least, it’s as real as the simulated physical here) then ANY decent researcher type ‘PROPERLY’ investigating this ‘strata’ of reality would have had to be brain dead not to eventually figure out that EVERYTHING OF THE SUBTLE STRATA IS COMPLETELY MANAGED and NOTHING of our healing approaches from ‘medicine’ all the way through to any alternate healing modality you’d care to name are all absolutely NOT doing anything correctly (read this page here for more details/ a better explanation of this). Spirit guides are MINDERS, they turn up automatically to provide you with essentially ‘shit’ propaganda (which you are manipulated to ‘believe’ (as I was for a while)).

However, if you are competent and PERSISTENT then you will eventually manage to figure out that specific issues you simple cannot resolve at all (despite that you SHOULD BE ABLE TO), unless you make yourself a complete pain in the arse then they are resolved BUT only temporarily (basically this is done just to get you to F*** OFF). To understand this then read this series here).
EARTH AS A SIMULATION Presenting Software Defined Copied Simulated People living in a Copied ‘Virtual’ Reality . . .

What I describe above and many other oddities eventually had me figuring out that we can only be in a simulation (as software defined copies of other people, with each of us living out someone else’s pre-defined life) AND strangely ‘IF’ you are allowed to make an effort to THINK about these possibilities then you can start figuring out all sorts of things AND simultaneously you can find yourself accumulating a massive, huge, UNBELIEVABLE abundance of easily deducible, readily OBSERVABLE evidence of this being the case.

I should ALSO point out that what many people describe as subtle or spiritual experiences AREN’T, many of these types of experiences are actually virtual reality and or physical neural implant originated experiences. In other words, MANY so called negative ‘subtle / spiritual’ originated issues such as entity and spirit attachments, implants, internal negative voices, spirit guides, higher dimensional beings are also NOTHING to do with the subtle or spiritual either. They are simulation software translated Virtual Reality (VR) experiences OR they are due to physical implants as neural enhancements being translated by the simulation INTO  subtle and spiritual experiences to keep their origins obscured (guess from who!!!).

Anyone with ANY debilitating personal issues and ANYONE interested in understanding the nature and functioning of our own ‘demented’ and anomaly filled reality here should read all of the pages in the following series . . .

    Series 1: Why many New Age sayings ‘Describe’ a Simulated Copied Reality?
    Series 2: Why many ‘Spiritual, Subtle & OBE’s are Virtual Reality Experiences
    Series 3: Evidence we are Simulating Individuals that ‘via’ an Avatar Worked on the Simulation we are Living Within
    Series 4: Evidence we are Simulating People with Hi-Tech Neural Implants
    EXERCISES: To Gain Direct Awareness of ‘Revealing’ Experiences that the person you are Simulating Had?
    POLLS: To Determine How Common are Anomalous Deducible as ‘Simulation Originated’ Personal Experiences?
    Series ‘M’ – Evidence of Managed & Manipulated Thinking & Evaluations?
    Earth as a Simulation Basics: Essential Foundation Information & Definitions
    Simulation Evidence: Pages Listing the Evidence so far Presented Here
    More ‘crabs as humans’ information/evidence is here and also here

I should point out that entirely software defined people means that your head and THINKING are also entirely software defined AND this makes it stupidly easy to manage YOUR awareness, thinking and evaluating abilities. Coincidentally there is a stupendous, abundance of evidence that this simulation project objective PROTECTING strategy is fully and aggressively operational.

Hence those that imagine themselves to be clever haven’t yet been able to figure out even:
Stupidly Obvious Basics . . .
State of the art Reality Investigations . . .

There are plenty of articles here presenting the NOT expected . . . . there are also many articles presenting things that contradict pretty much everything that even people that imagine themselves to ALREADY be ‘very’ open minded will find worrying.
Self Exploration ‘SoulWork’, Engaging with your ‘REAL’ Matrix Interfaced ‘Subtle’ Body Form

So, the ‘Original SoulWork Articles’ on this site present some of my earlier explorations and experiences while trying different means to understand and resolve my persistent and debilitating issues. In some of the earlier articles that I wrote 15+ years ago I gave ‘hints’ about some ‘disturbing’ things that I was finding because I was dedicated to openly understand my issues and their subtle origins.I should point out that my training and ‘profession’ is as a medical research scientist (research papers I contributed to in this earlier phase can be found here). So, what is presented in these pages is the work of a ‘real’ scientist unhampered by any delusional assumptions such as: ‘there is only the physical and you can only research ‘properly’ what you can physically see and record’.

Some people, the ones whose eyes ‘roll’ at the mention of the ‘soul’ because like many badly educated people they’ve been programmed to automatically (no ‘thinking’ required apparently) to dismiss anything mentioning the soul as ‘religious’ nonsense!!! So, despite that someone many be interested in ‘are we living in a matrix’ possibilities these irrational dismissive reactions can be so engrained that it’s unlikely that they’ll be able to ‘grasp’ the most basic simplistic fundamentals of the ‘MATRIX’ fake reality type which coincidentally is that you ALWAYS HAVE ‘TWO’ BODIES. In a MATRIX reality we’ve a real ‘visible’ easily ‘examined’ body which is nothing more than a well rendered sensory/perceptual illusion (although it’s obviously good enough to fool most people isn’t it), while unfortunately, within own fake reality the invisible ‘REAL’ body goes by various ‘diversionary’ names, the most popular is the ‘soul’ although the more ‘spiritually’ inclined describe it as the ‘subtle form/subtle body or even the inhabiting ‘spirit”, however, more recently, the new age population have described it as our HIGHER SELF, although ‘REAL’ SELF or ORIGINATING SELF would be more ‘accurate.

The bottom lines is that what you ‘identify’ as you (the physical body) is not the body that is actually reading or evaluating this, your physical head and ‘brain’ are nothing more than stage props to fool the narrow minded or poorly educated!!!

Strangely, if you consistently orientate to yourself and or your internal landscape and inner sensations (do this daily/try and do this ‘better’ ALL THE TIME (that’s what I did)) then you may find yourself gradually becoming more and more aware of aspects of this invisible ‘form’ of yourself.

In this respect, the earlier soulwork articles are of my extensive ‘experiences’ of accessing my real ‘invisible’ body (I started to do this VERY ‘coherently’ about 2 and a half decades ago now and of some of the bizarre experiences I had while examining my ‘REAL’ subtle body form!!!

The main title pages of these earlier exploration can be found in the ‘SoulWork’ menu on the right and below.
2 Scary, Shocking, Terrifying (Post Newage/Lightwork) Articles . . .

This section offers as articles collection of articles which describe what I have found because I sincerely and directly investigated and researched the subtle body and subtle energetic environmental origins of myself/ourselves as part of trying to become aware of the causes/origins of my own and others negative and debilitating life issues as they relate to different aspects of the REAL SUBTLE BODY FORM of myself as well as of the subtle form/being whose duplicated life I am simulating.

I basically started to become aware of all sorts of things/angles that just DIDN’T ADD UP, so I started to check out all of the new age ‘bullshit’ perspectives such that I started to ‘explore/inquire’ independently!!! The outcome of this had me gradually becoming aware of myself being very coherently ‘invisibly’ managed (desperate to keep myself locked into the newage bullshit line) . . . while becoming more and more aware of the ‘correspondences’ between what I was ‘DIRECTLY’ finding and the ‘Matrix’ two bodies interfaced together reality type. It was about a decade later that I ‘really’ started to get my head around the ‘FACT’ that we are simulating copies of people interfaced into a ‘Matrix’ external VR generated ‘sensory/perception’ type reality!!!

A menu of each of these articles main title and entry pages you will find on your immediate right in the sidebar here.

Most of the topic titles under each separate series heading lead to between 10 and 30 sub pages.

If you want to know more about my general ‘personal’ background then pages on CliveHetherington.com provide these. For pages/articles covering my extensive ‘anomalous’ personal experiences, my experiences as a healer therapist as well as my ‘extended’ perceptual abilities then you could check out my other sites which are listed here . . . . however, for all of these that want to bring themselves up to date on my latest research/work offering page upon page of evidence that we are simulated people living in a simulation which include exercises to help readers engage with ‘hidden’ VR and neural implant experiences and abilities that the person you are simulating had then this is the site to read . . . all the simulation articles, simulation ‘awareness’ exercises and the rest are listed in the yellow and green link box sitting in the sidebar on the right and above . . .

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    Xin Ying October 19, 2021 at 8:17 am on New Age Spiritual, Subtle, Healing & Therapy Experiences as Virtual Reality Environment RepresentationsHi Clive if its possible can you help post this comment here? Hi guys just to let you know our discord channel is still up and running. Do send me a friend request or post your discord ID here for
    Xin Ying September 28, 2021 at 7:24 am on Details of our Subtle/Spirit Form, the Subtle Environment & the Various/Many Anomalous Experiences Substituting for these HereI find myself relating to being a designer baby. Even my life here is presented as such. The founder of my country lee kwan yew was into eugenics (esp making smarter kids) and my parents met at a dating event
    Xin Ying August 14, 2021 at 11:45 pm on How Anomalous Is Our Sun & Solar System Compared To Most Others?I think the reason I kinda wrote that way was because if I wrote normally the wind up shit happens ( eg head suppressions) think was my way of coping with the effects when I wrote.
    Xin Ying August 14, 2021 at 11:44 pm on How Anomalous Is Our Sun & Solar System Compared To Most Others?hi Megan! Well I guess we could have been managed to create the discord group (have a feeling we did it multiple times before with larger group).
    Megan August 13, 2021 at 12:45 am on Modern Medicine, Quality of Research & Health Care Approaches, Practices & Recommendations & the Observable ‘Insane’ Outcomes!!!Tommy, I know I can’t make you listen to me or do anything I say; I also don’t know what your living situation is, but please hear me out! You need to say ‘no’ to these people! That is how

Matrix & Simulation Argument Series

    Series 1: Why are many Newage sayings VALID for a Duplicated Reality?
    Series 2: Why many ‘Spiritual, Subtle & OBE’s are Virtual Reality Experiences
    Series 3: Evidence we are Simulating Individuals that ‘via’ an Avatar Worked on the Simulation we are Living Within
    Series 4: Evidence we are Simulating People with Hi-Tech Neural Implants
    Series 5: Mandela Effects Anomalous Memory 18 page Investigation Series
    EXERCISES: To Gain Direct Awareness of ‘Revealing’ Experiences that the person you are Simulating Had?
    EXERCISES: Self Exploration & Healing
    POLLS: To Determine How Common are Anomalous Deducible as ‘Simulation Originated’ Personal Experiences?
    Series ‘M’ – Evidence of Managed & Manipulated Thinking & Evaluations?
    Earth as a Simulation Basics: Essential Foundation Information & Definitions
    Simulation Evidence: Pages Listing the Evidence so far Presented Here

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Historical Past Language Based Evidence of Ourselves as an Immortal Soul Form Incarnated into Flesh

November 20, 2019

I’ve updated the very,very bottom/last few paragraphs ‘WAREHOUSE’ STORAGE, MAINTENANCE & PROTECTION/SECURITY ‘COSTS/CHARGE’ . . . the warehouse/birth certificate tax it’s for ‘warehouse/storage’ of your subtle/soul/spirit form!!!!

Based on what I’ve presented on previous pages/sections of this series, we are all ‘subtle’ beings or what I’d describe as an energetic/frequency/resonance based life form, that (in our terms) is often locally referred to as the soul or subtle/spirit form.

These subtle beings originated within and hence then ‘appear’ to be natural to an exceptionally different higher frequency/resonance based ‘subtle’ strata, which is just one of a set of stratas that are part of the base characteristics of the entire meta universe’s base structure/configuration.

However, sometime in their (and then our) very, very distant past, ancestral versions of ourselves (the spirit/soul form that is interfaced to the human body avatar) very, very gradually becomes aware of another separate as well as very different parallel to themselves ‘universe’ strata, which in being way, way slower in base matter/frequency terms compared to there own, is then the ‘physical’ universe strata, which (as I described on an earlier page here: The ‘REAL’ Subtle Energetic Body Anatomy of our Androgynous Soul Form & its Differences Compared to the Physical Human Body Explained), they then start to remotely investigate and research what to themselves as an energetic resonance based life form living within a none physical/resonance based ‘subtle’ environment would be an exceptionally strange/alien place/environment (at least compared to there own).

However, over time these physical strata/physical universe investigations of (in most cases) generally inert/lifeless physical worlds/planets eventually results in them finding one (that we know of) that is presenting a vast variety of physical life. On then directly remotely investigating and researching such a world this have result in themselves gradually them learning how to interface themselves more and more ‘coherently/seamlessly’ to different physical animal forms, such that it likely wouldn’t take them long before they started to interface more and more of their subtle populations to some perhaps very different physical animal forms while also then more and more seriously considering and then eventually starting a physical civilisation/culture!!!!

If any subtle culture did consider doing this, it is then also very, very likely that they’d interface some of their subtle population to a variety of animals as part of setting up one or more very small physical earth world communities perhaps also including some wandering tribes as a small herd of horses or as a pack of wolves for example!!!

In them, then having members of their subtle population spending permanent time within a few likely very small communities and or as mobile tribes they’d also then begin to figure out all of the dangers/problems associated with different environments and habitats including for example dangerous predators, poisonous plants, water sources etc. etc. while also giving the subtle researchers focused on the physical ‘colony’ efforts and those working on the ‘experience an incarnated physical life’ project trying to figure out how to support/facilitate their subtle forms to adapt to the physical environment and to being interfaced to an animal form as well as getting used to the planet’s day and night cycle as well of the yearly seasons that are an inherent part of a physical planet’s natural cycles while they also learn to more and more adapt the subtle form and or the interfacing to help them synchronise with these as well as of the habits, instincts and life cycles of the animal specie types that they’d have volunteered or chosen to be interfaced to . . .

If you’ve managed to take in what I’ve been describing above then you’ll now be aware that it is exceptionally likely (as I’ve regularly pointed out elsewhere) that the human body you are presently using the eyes of to read this with is essentially nothing more than a remote vehicle, an ‘avatar’ being driven around by an ‘intelligent’ none physical energetic/resonance based ‘organism’ which coincidentally, is what is commonly described or labelled as the soul, the spirit and or the subtle body form here . . .
The Early ‘Common Knowledge’ Of The Immortal Soul/Spirit/Subtle Form & the Subtle Environment Origins Problem

In this respect, the closer you are to the earlier past times when the first human and or other animals were chosen as part of efforts to interface a much larger population of subtle beings/soul form to the physical earth environment then the more aware these incarnating ‘pioneers’ will absolutely/utterly of themselves as absolutely being a very, very different none physical, subtle/spirit form that has been interfaced/incarnated into a specific physical animal form, very specifically to have an animal avatar experience of living on the surface of a physical planet/world.

It is in fact exceptionally likely that during the earliest ‘moving the subtle population’ to the physical efforts that all of these whom then find themselves interfaced to any physical animal form would actually then be DIRECTLY/EXPLICITLY aware of their immortal subtle being/form origins ‘AND’ they’d also absolutely know that they have been deliberately interfaced to some physical animal form (which could be human or another animal) which, unlike themselves ISN’T ACTUALLY ‘IMMORTAL’, but has a very, very limited life span, at least compared to any immortal being that may have already been around for a few millions of years!!!

In a very basic sense if you are interfacing an invisible/cannot easily be seen/viewed spirit/soul form specifically to one or more physical animal species, very specifically to use this animal as a remote vehicle/avatar and particularly as part of offering the spirit/soul form an incarnated physical/join my physical civilisation life/experience, then isn’t it exceptionally likely that some if not many ‘inherent/normal’ characteristics/details of the immortal/androgynous/asexual subtle/spirit/soul form will be reflected/represented within early physical language!!!!

In this respect isn’t it actually very, very, very likely that early language would be directly as well as exceptionally ‘explicit’ with respect to having words describing both their early circumstances as well as at least some of the characteristics of the very, very different none physical as well as immortal spirit/soul form that now found itself interfaced to a human or other physical animal ‘vehicle’!!!!
ISN’T THIS ‘EXCEPTIONALLY’ LIKELY!!!!!
Some Base Descriptions & Definitions of the Spirit, Soul Form, Being Made into ‘Flesh’ by being Interfaced to a Physical Animal Form

In this respect, it’s possible that some of you whom that are reading this whom are currently interfaced to a human avatar may then actually be aware of the use of and or the meanings of a whole load of often well used terms (at least within certain circles) that have been and or are still currently being used to describe facets of the none human, none physical ‘intelligence’ that is actually what allows humans here to at least have the potential to be intelligent . . . a level of intelligence that maybe actually (for example) allows you to read characters on a screen, presented in a form of writings that are attempting to convey certain meanings and or concepts/ideas and particularly as part of trying to define and or explain certain specific things to others . . . which after reading, you can then attempt to ‘THINK’ about and or then ‘EVALUATE’ . . . which in some cases for certain people can easily be made difficult because in that all of your ‘real’ thinking processes are literally going on SOMEWHERE ELSE then your ability to take in and evaluate anything can then via the bi-directional interfacing be manipulated and particularly via systems designed into the interfacing and or your none physical real ‘spirit/soul/subtle forms ‘thinking’ processes.

Maybe an example of the effects of this being done would be that you’ve read this page and also the previous one BUT you didn’t relate what was written to any of the terms I’m going to point out below never mind not having at least some ‘musings’ related to specific words and or early ‘language’ possibilities which would perhaps imply that you are being managed to NOT THINK OF WELL USED AS WELL AS OBVIOUS ‘RELATED’ INFORMATION & OR DESCRIPTORS/TERMS that are actually ‘evidence’ of what I’ve been pointing out/trying to make more explicit within these pages!!!!

PLEASE NOTE: For the terms and definitions below I have searched the internet and taken and then blended together descriptions which are presented on sites offering various dictionary and or etymology (past language origins) references/definitions!!!!

Base Descriptions/Definition of the Soul: A substantial entity believed to be that in each person which lives, feels, thinks and wills. The soul, in many religious, philosophical, and mythological traditions, is the incorporeal essence of a living being. Soul or psyche (in Ancient Greek is equivalent “to breathe”) comprises the mental abilities of a living being: reason, character, feeling, consciousness, memory, perception, thinking, etc.

Sometimes said to mean originally “coming from or belonging to the sea,” because that was supposed to be the stopping place of the soul before birth or after death [Barnhart]; if so, it would be from Proto-Germanic *saiwaz (see sea).

For some it’s the spiritual or animating or vital principle embodied in human beings, all rational and spiritual beings, or the universe. It gives ‘life’ the vital principle and hence then is what ‘gives life’ to physical organisms!!! Plato’s view of the soul: Plato considered the psyche/soul to be the essence of a person, being that which decides how we behave. He considered this essence to be an incorporeal, eternal occupant of our being. Plato says that even after death, the soul exists and is able to think. He believed that as bodies die, the soul is continually reborn in subsequent bodies.

COMMENT/S: Again we’ve a lot of what can only be described as indirect and for the most part difficult to conceptually understand, never mind the need to interpret/decode ‘symbolic’ terms/descriptions presented within the above.

As described on the previous page the subtle body form is vaguely equivalent to a dynamic ball of plasma/’energy’ i.e. it is frequency/resonance based and hence then is exceptionally different to and then actually very hard to describe in ‘physical’ only conceptual terms.

However, let me try and do this now by specifically using ‘BREATH’ to ‘illustrate’ this ‘energetic/resonance/frequency based none physical’ form in a way that pretty accurately ‘symbolically’ represents the base ‘energetic/frequency’ characteristics of this form!!!! Basically, if on a very cold day you step outside and take in a large breath of air and then after a few seconds deliberately breathe out through your mouth then you will actually ‘SEE’ your breath because it temporarily becomes visible as an amorphous semi transparent cloud of temporarily elevated in temperature (compared to the surrounding air) dynamically moving ‘air and likely water’ particles . . . which also ‘fits’ with the Atman reference further below too . . .

Base Descriptions/Definition of Incorporeal Essence: (usage begins in 15th century) Middle English incorporealle, from Anglo-French incorporel, from Latin incorporeus, from in- + corporeus corporeal. Not corporeal : 1. having no material body or form but a spiritual form, OR relating to, or constituting a right that is based on property (such as bonds or patents). Synonyms (words of equivalent meaning): bodiless, ethereal, formless, immaterial, insubstantial, nonmaterial, nonphysical, spiritual, unbodied, unsubstantial. Antonyms (words of opposite meaning): bodily, corporeal, material, physical, substantial.

Atman (n.): in Hindu philosophy, the self or soul, 1785, from Sanskrit atma “essence, breath, soul,” from PIE *etmen “breath” (a root found in Sanskrit and Germanic; source also of Old English æðm, Dutch adem, Old High German atum “breath,” Old English eþian, Dutch ademen “to breathe”).

COMMENT/S: Let me point out a few conceptually ‘weird’ things here!!!! You essentially have a subtle, spirit, soul form/entity/species that is both directly and automatically taking in ‘nutrition/sustenance’ directly from the environment. Hence, in terms of finding a ‘best fit/closest physical earth life equivalent’, and particularly in human/earth conceptual terms related to life, would make the soul/spirit/subtle form equivalent to something like a plant (or better still maybe a ‘tree’) specifically because trees take in ‘radiation/emissions’ from the sun (to use as ‘energy’) as well as invisible components directly from the air (specifically CO2 as ‘food’). Hence then a ‘tree’ would perhaps be the closest equivalent in ‘life on earth’ terms to the spirit/soul/subtle forms food/nutritional and or energy intake abilities/capacity . . .
Dantes 7th Circle of Hell Being a Tree!!!!

Strangely I couldn’t help notice that within Dante’s circles of hell descriptions, he describes one (the 7th hell of ‘Violence Against the Self) that has people being made into a tree. Strangely, in that Dante describes quite a few of what are in many ways, way more conceptually realistic ‘hells’ BUT then suddenly throws into the mix a hell where people are made into a tree . . . AND . . . remember what I mentioned about the management via the interfacing . . . strangely there is a deafening ‘SILENCE’ around this possibility, there is never any ‘WTF’ response along the lines of . . .

    “How could anyone be made into a tree or experience ‘Being a TREE'”!!!!

Which shouldn’t come as a surprise should it when ‘conceptually’ the only way you can become a tree is to be interfaced to one, which would be no more difficult than what has been done to interface you reading this to your human avatar/vehicle.

Perhaps it would be more realistic to translate the ‘Violence Against the Self’ as being despair/desperation due to themselves no longer being a subtle form living within the subtle environment, within which you don’t have to drink water regularly, nor eat food 2 or 3 times a day, just to continue to live, nor do subtle/spirit forms need to work to buy food either!!!

In this respect it’s then very possible that an aware of themselves as a subtle form interfaced to a human would perhaps prefer to be what they really are while also perhaps preferring to live within its natural/original subtle environment i.e. living as a subtle spirit form that automatically takes in all sustenance needs automatically from its environment while never ever having to work regularly to ‘live’ either . . . such that, is it not possible. maybe even likely that some, whom on finding themselves incarnated into the physical (perhaps even forcibly, perhaps they were press ganged/kidnapped in the subtle!!!!) might find themselves at least ‘unconsciously/subconsciously’ becoming desperate with respect to finding themselves living a physical life . . . perhaps even to the point of becoming suicidal . . . !!!!

However, if they did then kill themselves/their physical body (which in their terms is perhaps nothing more than a remote physical vehicle/avatar used to engage with the earth’s physical environment) . . . and hence then are perhaps doing this specifically to escape perhaps ‘some’ hellish physical circumstances . . . then how much of a piss take do you think it would be for them to then find themselves interfaced into the physical yet again, but this time as a tree . . . which, I strongly suspect they’d find a lot harder to kill/de-interface themselves from at least compared to a human animal form . . . despite that they are also finding themselves as a tree experiencing circumstances equivalent to being tortured . . . ‘I quote’ . . .

    ” . . . are then fed upon by Harpies, hideous clawed birds with the faces of women; the trees are only permitted to speak when broken and bleeding . . . Dante learns that these suicides, unique among the dead, will not be corporally resurrected after the Final Judgement since they threw their bodies away; instead, they will maintain their bushy form, with their own corpses hanging from the thorny limbs . . . “

WHAT A PISS TAKE!!!!

Strangely however, we actually have films depicting intelligent trees (don’t tell me you’ve magically forgotten about the “Day of the Triffids” (as both a film and series)). Strangely however, if you actually were living as any type of tree you’d expect to produce ‘blossom’ i.e. flowers, in which case anyone here that’s lets say ‘representing’ someone interfaced to a tree would perhaps feel compelled to wear ‘flowery’ clothes perhaps specifically at times related to the tree’s flowering time/season!!!

Coincidentally Eddie Izzard (comedian/actor) likes to wear flowery clothes, even more coincidentally he was one of the main actors in the ‘Day of the Triffids’ series!!!!

Strangely, basic observation abilities and or the ability to make connections between directly related topics/experiences/FACTS doesn’t often seem to be a strong point within our weird reality here!!! DOES IT!!!

Can you think of any even more bizarre as well as DIRECTLY/STARKLY SHOCKING ‘people as trees’ possibilities!!!! Strangely, if you cannot, then perhaps this means that that you are then completely unaware that we actually DO HAVE PEOPLE BEING VISIBLY DEPICTED/PRESENTED AS TREES HERE!!!

I’m being deadly serious about this!!!! We ‘do’ have people being presented as if they are a tree here!!!

Here are some pictures:

If you make an effort to read about how their condition impacts themselves then you’ll become aware that what they are experiencing is HELLISH!!!!

    Strangely, in myself making an effort to read about these people/this condition I’ve not once noticed any scientist/academic/doctor type mention how this condition makes those with this condition have many visible characteristics that are strongly reminiscent of a tree . . . hence then it’s not a surprise that I’ve also not noticed anyone correlate this condition to Dante’s 7th circle of hell either . . . ‘basic observational abilities’ coupled with wide ranging scale of interests/knowledge . . . often reveals all sorts of very interesting correlations . . .

More correlation weird experiences/evidence relating to incarnated ‘people’ as subtle beings can be found on this page here:  Details of our Subtle/Spirit Form, the Subtle Environment & the Various/Many Anomalous Experiences Substituting for these Here

Base Description/Definition of ‘Spirit’: Meaning “supernatural immaterial creature; angel, demon; an apparition, invisible corporeal being of an airy nature” is attested from mid-14c.; from late 14c. as “a ghost” (see ghost (n.)). Your spirit is the part of you that is not physical and that consists of your character and feelings. A person’s spirit is the immaterial intelligent or sentient part of a person i.e. the ‘non-physical part of them’ that is believed to remain alive after the death of the physical body. When someone dies it is the ‘spirit’ that leaves the body, which is sometimes seen and then described as a ghost or spirit form by others (that have usually been close to them)!!! The use of the word spirit then also refers to a ghost (as a supernatural being).

COMMENT/S: . . . I’d yet again like to point out that animals are driven in a base sense by instinct/instincts/drives rather than ‘intelligence’, never mind that in the above it is made clear that it is the ‘spirit’ which is the ‘immaterial’ intelligence i.e. it is this ‘spirit’ form what actually confers the ‘intelligence’ on the human form!!!
Past Word Origins & Definitions of Psyche, Psychology & Psychic

Base Descriptions/Definition of the Psyche: (plural psyches is a shortened form of psychology, from French psychologie, from Latin psychologia) denotes the human soul, mind, or spirit. (Psyche). The human mind as the central force in thought, emotion, and behavior of an individual. Psychology: The science of the human soul; specifically, the systematic or scientific knowledge of the powers and functions of the human soul, so far as they are known by consciousness; a treatise on the human soul. Psychology: the science conversant about the phenomena of the mind, or conscious subject, or self.

Past Origins of Psyche (n.): 1640s, “animating spirit,” from Latin psyche, from Greek psykhē “the soul, mind, spirit; life, one’s life, the invisible animating principle or entity which occupies and directs the physical body; understanding, the mind (as the seat of thought), faculty of reason” (personified as Psykhē, the beloved of Eros), also “ghost, spirit of a dead person;” probably akin to psykhein “to blow, cool,” from PIE root *bhes- “to blow, to breathe” (source also of Sanskrit bhas-), “Probably imitative” [Watkins].

Also in ancient Greek, “departed soul, spirit, ghost,” and often represented symbolically as a butterfly or moth (a ‘flying through the air’ creature). The word had extensive sense development in Platonic philosophy and Jewish-influenced theological writing of St. Paul (compare spirit (n.)). Meaning “human soul” is from 1650s. In English, psychological sense “mind,” is attested by 1910.

Past Origins of Psychic (adj.): 1872, “of or pertaining to the human soul” (earlier psychical, 1640s), from Greek psykhikos “of the soul, spirit, or mind”.

COMMENT/S: the above collection of definitions will give you some idea of how over time ‘original’ in the past and perhaps way more ‘ACCURATE’ definitions/meanings are superseded by modern and in fact more and more misleading ‘science’ based definitions all very gradually making the original and hence then way more ‘ACCURATE’ past/historical context/meanings of specific terms less and less obvious!!!

As the soul/spirit/subtle form (as described on the previous page) is always in the air i.e. it is always ‘flying’ as there is no ground then representing or referring to the departed ‘spirit’ as a flying creature such as a moth or butterfly is in a conceptual sense pretty accurate/realistic!!!!

Let me give you some yet more ‘interesting’ words to think about . . .
Past Word Origins & Definitions Related to being Being ‘Animate/an Animal Form’ that requires to continually ‘BREATHE’ to Continue to Live/Stay Alive!!!

Animate (adj.): “alive,” late 14c., from Latin animatus, past participle of animare “give breath to,” also “to endow with a particular spirit, to give courage to, enliven,” from anima “life, breath” (from PIE root *ane- “to breathe”).

Exanimate (adj.): “inanimate, lifeless,” 1530s, from Latin exanimatus “lifeless, dead,” past participle of exanimare “to deprive of air or breath; tire, fatigue; to deprive of life; to terrify,” from ex “out” (see ex-) + animare “give breath to” (see animate (v.)). Related: Exanimation.

Pneuma (n.): used in English in various sense, from Greek pneuma “a blowing, a wind, blast; breeze; influence; breathed air, breath; odor, scent; spirit of a person; inspiration, a spirit, ghost,” from pnein “to blow, to breathe,” from PIE root *pneu- “to breathe,” of imitative origin (compare Greek pnoe “breath,” pnoia “breathing;” Old English fnora “sneezing,” fnæran “to snort”).

*ane- Proto-Indo-European root meaning “to breathe.”: It forms all or part of: anemo-; anemometer; anemone; anima; animadversion; animadvert; animal; animalcule; animalistic; animate; animation; animatronic; anime; animism; animosity; animus; Enid; equanimity; longanimity; magnanimous; pusillanimous; unanimous.

It is the hypothetical source of/evidence for its existence is provided by: Sanskrit aniti “breathes;” Greek anemos “wind;” Latin animus “rational soul, mind, life, mental powers, consciousness, sensibility; courage, desire,” anima “living being, soul, mind, disposition, passion, courage, anger, spirit, feeling;” Old Irish anal, Welsh anadl “breath,” Old Irish animm “soul;” Gothic uzanan “to exhale,” Old Norse anda “to breathe,” Old English eðian “to breathe;” Old Church Slavonic vonja “smell, breath;” Armenian anjn “soul.”

COMMENT/S: How many different references/angles of distant past historical descriptions do you need before it sinks in that the soul/spirit is describing in terms of ‘breath’ as well as ‘feelings and sensitivities’ i.e. we have terms and descriptions being used to categorise ‘something’ that don’t relate/equate to a physical/material form BUT they do relate to ‘something’ equivalent to an amorphous energetic cloud like being/form that in then being INTERFACED to the human form is then ‘animating’ the human form never mind while also very like being responsible for the human’s level of intelligence (at least compared to the other physical ‘animals’ that we have here)!!!!

Base descriptions of the Higher Self & Divine Self: Higher self is a term associated with multiple belief systems, but its basic premise describes an eternal, omnipotent, conscious, and intelligent being, who is one’s real self. Blavatsky formally defined the higher self as “Atma the inseparable ray of the Universe and one self”.

Many people refer to the levels of your being using such words as higher self, soul, spirit, and Divine Self. It is also referred to as the Divine Self, ‘spirit’, God/ess and for some ‘The Presence’ or the ‘I AM PRESENCE’, all of which are coincidentally referring to the source or essence of all life. The Divine Self is described by some as within you, while being as eternal, infinite consciousness, free from all attachments and beyond all action; it is described as constant and unchanging, birth less and deathless.

COMMENT/S: Strangely in describing what is presented here as the higher or divine self and or spirit in these terms (as both birth less and deathless/eternal) this then directly implies that this form/being/organism neither experiences being born nor does it experience itself as ever dying either. Which actually then directly implies that it is an organism that is not only immortal but for it to not experience being born (which is the outcome of sexual conjugation/propagation) then directly implies that it is an organism that actually propagates by ‘dividing’ itself, very specifically because this is the only form of propagation that produces offspring that then aren’t actually given birth to i.e. they are not then actually ‘born’.

This Self/the Divine self (likely called divine because it’s both immortal AND its view point is above ‘everything’) can only be known through a direct experience of ‘It’ and cannot be known through the rational mind. It is described as the Oneness from which all life comes, and to which all life returns. Your soul is also described as living on the soul plane/level, a dimension of light and vibration . . .

COMMENT/S: It was hard, pretty much impossible for me to get my head around interpreting the above until I looked up the old/older meaning of ‘Life’ . . .

Life (n.): Old English life (dative lif) “animated corporeal existence; lifetime, period between birth and death; the history of an individual from birth to death, written account of a person’s life; way of life (good or bad); condition of being a living thing, opposite of death; spiritual existence imparted by God, through Christ, to the believer,” from Proto-Germanic *leiban (source also of Old Norse lif “life, body,” Old Frisian, Old Saxon lif “life, person, body,” Dutch lijf “body,” Old High German lib “life,” German Leib “body”), properly “continuance, perseverance,” from PIE root *leip- “to stick, adhere.”

COMMENT/S: Well, the above makes it exceptionally clear that the early meaning of the word ‘life’ specifically only refers to those living an ‘animated corporeal existence’ i.e. the word ‘life’ wasn’t originally used to describe any/all ‘PHYSICAL’ ANIMAL FORMS/PHYSICAL LIVING THINGS, rather the word ‘LIFE’ was only used to refer to those that are incarnated into flesh i.e. it only refers to those that are ‘interfaced’ to a physical animal form!!!!

Now, if you/we ‘really’ are a form that is equivalent to ‘breath/air’ which is then interfaced i.e. incarnated i.e. is made to be ‘in flesh’ then wouldn’t it be interesting to see what past definitions of these specific words reveal!!!
Past Word Origins & Definitions of Corporeal, Becoming Flesh/Carnal & Incarnate, Incarnating & Ghost

Flesh (n.): Old English flæsc “flesh, meat, muscular parts of animal bodies; body (as opposed to soul).

COMMENT/S: Please note that the above sentence was copied and pasted as is (i.e. it included the (as opposed to soul) part), implying that in the distant past it was common/normal to view yourself as ‘not of the flesh’ BUT as an incarnated soul/spirit form!!!

Carnal (adj.): c. 1400, “physical, human, mortal,” from Old French carnal and directly from Latin carnalis “fleshly, of the flesh,” from carnis “of the flesh,” genitive of caro “flesh, meat,” “flesh,” originally “a piece of flesh,” from PIE root *sker- (1) “to cut.” . . Meaning “sensual, pertaining to the passions and appetites of the flesh” is from early 15c.; that of “worldly, sinful, not spiritual” is from mid-15c. Carnal knowledge “sexual intercourse” is attested from early 15c. and was in legal use by 1680s. Medieval Latin carnalis meant “natural, of the same blood,” a sense sometimes found in Middle English carnal.

COMMENT/S: Just in case you’ve already forgotten or haven’t read the previous page, then ‘we’ as a ‘subtle/soul/spirit’ type of life form/species are actually completely none sexual specifically because the soul/spirit form is actually androgynous i.e. the soul/spirit form doesn’t have any body gender/sexuality differentiation. Hence then, in being interfaced/incarnated into an animal type that is of two genders/sexes, means that these incarnated forms would then automatically gain/experience so called ‘carnal knowledge’. Basically, an/all interfaced/incarnated ‘spirit/soul/subtle’ forms would gain knowledge/experience of HOW PHYSICAL ANIMALS REPRODUCE i.e. via direct ‘sexual intercourse/coupling’ . . .

This would seem like a good place to check out terms/words related to ‘incarnate/incarnation’!!!!

Incarnate (adj.): late 14c., “embodied in flesh, in human or bodily form” (of souls, spirits, etc.), from Late Latin incarnatus “made flesh,” a frequent word among early Christian writers, past-participle adjective from Latin incarnare “to make flesh” (see incarnation). Of qualities or abstractions, 1530s.

Incarnate (v.): “clothe or embody in flesh,” 1530s, a back-formation from incarnation, or else from Late Latin incarnatus “made flesh,” past participle of incarnare “to make flesh; be made flesh.” Meaning “make or form flesh” (as in healing a wound) is from 1670s. Related: Incarnated; incarnating.

Incarnation (n.): c. 1300, “embodiment of God in the person of Christ,” from Old French incarnacion “the Incarnation” (12c.), from Late Latin incarnationem (nominative incarnatio), “act of being made flesh” (used by Church writers especially in reference to God in Christ; source also of Spanish encarnacion, Italian incarnazione), noun of action from past participle stem of Late Latin incarnari “be made flesh,” from in- “in” (from PIE root *en “in”) + caro (genitive carnis) “flesh” (originally “a piece of flesh,” from PIE root *sker- (1) “to cut”). Glossed in Old English as inflæscnes, inlichomung. As “person or thing that is the embodiment” (of some quality, deity, etc.) from 1742.

COMMENT/S: Let me make an effort to be very explicit about our very distant past scene/circumstances for yourself . . . we have well used embedded terms within ‘western’ society making it very, very clear that we are forms that are being incarnated into flesh i.e. we are ‘being made flesh’ which is an apt description if you/we are all actually ‘something else’ that is from ‘somewhere else’ that is then being directly interfaced to an animal form!!!!
Historical, Distant Past Word Origins & Definitions of Immortal, Immortality as well as Mortal

Base Description/Definition of ‘Ghost’: The spirit of a dead person, sometimes represented as a pale, almost transparent image of that person that some people believe appears to people who are alive. An apparition of a dead person which is believed to appear or become manifest to the living, typically as a nebulous image.

Ghost language origins: Old English gast “breath; good or bad spirit, angel, demon; person, man, human being,” in Biblical use “soul, spirit, life,” it is the English representative of the usual West Germanic word for “supernatural being.” In Christian writing in Old English it is used to render Latin spiritus (see spirit (n.)), a sense preserved in Holy Ghost. Sense of “disembodied spirit of a dead person,” especially imagined as wandering among the living or haunting them, is attested from late 14c. and returns the word toward its likely prehistoric sense.

Also, most Indo-European words for “soul, spirit” also double with reference to supernatural spirits. Many have a base sense of “appearance” (such as Greek phantasma; French spectre; Polish widmo, from Old Church Slavonic videti “to see;” Old English scin, Old High German giskin, originally “appearance, apparition,” related to Old English scinan, Old High German skinan “to shine”). Other concepts are in French revenant, literally “returning” (from the other world).

COMMENT/S: . . . I’d also like to point out that we have a lot of well recorded/documented cases of people whom have died (BUT just temporarily before being resuscitated/revived) whom have themselves then described having a viewpoint that is very, very obviously outside of their temporarily dead human body form, including of themselves seeing their own body being dealt with by doctors/nurses coincidentally in such detail that some of whom have had these OUT OF THEIR PHYSICAL BODY experiences can recall both the activities AND in some cases the conversations of those present around their recently dead body. . . . in other words we not only have people being ‘seen’ as ghosts BUT we have people having experiences of essentially BEING A GHOST too . . . both of these types of experience directly imply that the ‘intelligence’ exhibited by the human form is then independent/separate from the human body form itself which also then directly implies that it is this ‘ghost/spirit’ form that actually confers the ‘intelligence’ on the human animal/body . . .

I am sure that within my own personal lifetime ghosts have gone from being depicted as a white transparent amorphous i.e. not ‘really’ human body form that was generally depicted as a flowing as well as a floating off the floor form. In doing some image searches and looking for images of past ghosts as compared to how they are presented in modern/recent films . . . this gradual transformation shift of this form from a just slightly vaguely human floating in the air (sometimes half in or half out of walls or flying through them) as an indistinct wavy ‘edges’ indistinctly flowing/flying type figure to more and more being depicted as nothing more than a transparent human now standing pretty solidly on the floor . . .
Historical, Distant Past Word Origins & Definitions of Immortal, Immortality as well as Mortal

Mortality (n.): mid-14c., mortalite, “condition of being subject to death or the necessity of dying,” from Old French mortalite “massacre, slaughter; fatal illness; poverty; destruction” (12c.) and directly from Latin mortalitem (nominative mortalitas) “state of being mortal; subjection to death,” from mortalis “subject to death, mortal,” from PIE root *mer- “to rub away, harm” (also “to die” and forming words referring to death and to beings subject to death).

Immortal (adj.): late 14c., “deathless,” from Latin immortalis “deathless, undying” (of gods), “imperishable, endless” (of fame, love, work, etc.), from assimilated form of in- “not, opposite of” (see in- (1)) + mortalis “mortal” (from PIE root *mer- “to rub away, harm,” also “to die” and forming words referring to death and to beings subject to death). In reference to fame, literature, etc., “unceasing, destined to endure forever, never to be forgotten, lasting a long time,” attested from early 15c. (also in classical Latin). As a noun, “an immortal being,” from 1680s.

COMMENT/S: Yet again (as with a lot of specific word meanings over time in the distant past) notice how the use/meaning of the word is over time being shifted sideways so that it ends up describing/referring to something that is actually very different i.e. in this case from describing an immortal being to someone that is immortalised because of ‘fame’!!!! Below there is another example of this type of gradual creeping shift with respect to word meanings with respect to another angle of spirit word which is as a ‘ghost’ . . .

Immortality (n.): mid-14c., “deathlessness,” from Old French immortalité (13c.) and directly from Latin immortalitatem (nominative immortalitas) “deathlessness, endless life,” also “imperishable fame,” from immortalis “undying” (see immortal). Of fame, etc., “quality of being permanent,” early 15c.

COMMENT/S: Can any academic explain as to why an essentially mentally, conceptually and ‘intellectually’ limited animal form that in needing to eat regularly including likely hunting and then killing and then eating animals AND whom is also very likely part of some tribe such that they will all then be very, very, very, VERY aware of death BEING UNAVOIDABLE and specifically because either naturally or via sabre tooth tiger etc encounters they themselves and or their friends/people they know are regularly killed actually then somehow, seemingly ‘magically’ actually even come up with the concept of immortality never mind of then conceiving of ANYTHING AT ALL as being ‘immortal’ . . . never mind that this ‘immortal’ concept is used to DIRECTLY REFER TO SOME ASPECT OF ‘THEMSELVES’!!!!

Why would any intelligent animal form that arose on a physical world and hence then absolutely only have experience of natural ‘physical’ phenomena as well as a built in animal experience/instincts mostly focused on surviving generation after generation have or develop concepts/terms/words such a mortal and or immortal, never mind of actually attributing a part of themselves as being ‘immortal’ which means a part that always lives is alive for ever and ever and ever!!!!

>> THIS DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL <<
Past Word Usage & Definitions of both Avatar & also Deity = Natural Gods

>> REMEMBER WHAT I WROTE AT THE VERY TOP OF THIS PAGE!!!! <<

“In a very basic sense if you are interfacing an invisible remote spirit/soul form specifically to one or more physical animal species, very specifically to use these these animals as a remote vehicle/avatar as part of offering the spirit/soul form an incarnated physical/join my physical civilisation life/experience, then isn’t it exceptionally likely that some if not many ‘inherent/normal’ characteristics/details of the immortal/androgynous/asexual subtle form in being ‘interfaced’ to one of more physical animal species will be reflected/represented within early physical language and then writing efforts!!!!”

Avatar (n.): 1784, “descent of a Hindu deity to earth in an incarnate or tangible form,” from Sanskrit avatarana “descent” (of a deity to the earth in incarnate form), from ava- “off, down” (from PIE root *au- (2) “off, away”) + base of tarati “(he) crosses over,” from PIE root *tere- (2) “cross over, pass through, overcome.” also meaning “concrete embodiment of something abstract” is from 1815.

COMMENT/S: all/everything that what I write above on this page is basically repeatedly suggesting that we are a none physical self existing spirit form BUT in now being incarnate such that we are now currently wearing a flesh overcoat . . . until we physically die . . . after which we apparently ‘cross over’ . . . perhaps ‘cross over’ means we’d be back at least temporarily into the subtle strata . . . before perhaps being born again/reincarnated which essentially means being re-interfaced to another animal form!!!

Overall, from the above, we have descriptions of a form that is described as being interfaced to a human/animal being directly described as having some ‘GOD LIKE’ characteristics including being immortal while also being described as something higher i.e. it’s conceptually described as something that was originally above i.e. higher which is then subjected to a descent. In other words, specifically from this ‘forms’ perspective/viewpoint it’s being described as being shifted in sensory/perception and perhaps awareness terms from a higher realm/place to a lower realm/place, which is also described as it ‘crossing over’ too, which is yet another way of stating that perhaps in perceptual/sensory and or awareness terms these were all originally focused ‘somewhere’ on a higher level BUT now are focused somewhere else that’s described as lower!!!!

However, if they maintained the physical worlds research/investigation teams and or those directing these whom originally both helped investigate the physical planet as well as designing the early physical world ‘incarnation’ interfacing to actually have them remotely view/look out for those they’d incarnated i.e. which would have them all directly viewing/remotely viewing all those they incarnated from above, i.e they’d then SPECIFICALLY HAVE A VIEW POINT EQUIVALENT TO THEM BEING IN THE SO CALLED ‘HEAVENS’!!!

Keep in mind that the ‘incarnated’ population are attempting to learn to drive/handle what to them is an alien life form (which for all intents and purposes you could describe as being an ‘avatar’) while also then trying to get used to living as this animal within an exceptionally different/alien environment which includes it having an regular LIGHT DAY/DARK NIGHT repeating all of the time cycle. Hence then, isn’t it likely that the upper subtle forms monitoring the incarnated population and or any monitoring/evaluating tech/systems would warn them as and when needed? Including, helping them to avoid accidents and or dangerous places, isn’t it likely that they’d even give them direct ‘severe weather’ warnings too!!! Although isn’t it possible that they might intervene if those below were for example about to be attacked by a sabre toothed tiger or fall down a well hidden hole or be at risk of drowning etc. etc . . .

If upper subtle forms and or monitoring systems acted as ‘guardians/advisors and or protectors’ with perhaps a specific directive to step in during physical life threatening circumstances then wouldn’t it appear as if they’d have unbelievable, verging on ‘magical’ abilities, such that they’d perhaps appear as being ‘God’ like at least from the perspective of those that were part of the normal less knowledgeable members of the subtle population whom were incarnated into the physical/having a physical life ‘experience’?!?!?

Deity (n.): c. 1300, deite, “divine nature, godhood, attributes of a god;” late 14c., “a god, God, the Supreme Being or self-existing spirit,” from Old French deité, from Late Latin deitatem (nominative deitas) “divine nature,” coined by Augustine from Latin deus “god,” from PIE *deiwos “god,” from root *dyeu- “to shine,” in derivatives “sky, heaven, god.” From 1580s as “a being to whom a divine or godlike nature is attributed.”

COMMENT/S: So, we have plenty of past language references describing ourselves as essentially being a ‘spirit’ incarnated into flesh i.e. that we are each a spirit/soul form being interfaced to an animal avatar/vehicle . . . hence then within the descriptions above ‘God’ i.e. ‘ourselves’ is described as a self-existing spirit (i.e. that we are actually independent of the physical form ) i.e. this implies that when not incarnated or before you started to be continually incarnated i.e. ‘re-incarnated’ again and again you were a freely living spirit/subtle/soul form!!!! I’d advise you to re-read the ‘incarnate’ references above a few times for this to properly sink in!!!

PLEASE NOTE: I’ve presented more angles of all of these ‘interfaced to a human’ possibilities written from a ‘matrix’ film analysis angle/perspective that also specifically goes into the language aspects associated with the word ‘matrix’ which turn out to be extensive as well as extensively revealing too on this page here: Matrix Film, Plato’s Cave, Theory of Forms, Metempsychosis & Platonic Dualism Comparisons!!!!

So, if all of us here are ‘actually’ some sort of none physical form from a none physical reality whom are each then being ‘interfaced’ to a human form then doesn’t this somewhat directly imply that we must all (whether we believe in such things or not) must then be being ‘incarnated into’ i.e. ‘interfaced to’ a human form while also, very likely being continually incarnated i.e. repeatedly reincarnated after the remote vehicle, human avatar form kicks the bucket i.e. actually dies!!!!
Wouldn’t the Greatest UPPER ‘Support’ Efforts Focus on Incarnating/Birth and or De-Interfacing/Death Efforts?

If we ‘really’ are of a form/being that never ever dies such that it/we are all being repeatedly interfaced/incarnated and then re-interfaced/re-incarnated then are there any specific word/words that would directly reflect/represent ourselves as being interfaced to and or repeatedly re-interfaced to the next available/suitable human fetus that would then be within a female’s pregnant ‘womb’?!?!?

Even more strangely, if this is all utter nonsense, i.e. if within our early origins we are not immortal subtle beings, whom then become aware of a parallel ‘physical’ strata which on then being investigated and on finding a world with physical life results in people becoming ‘experts’ in various aspects of the planet earth which they achieve by learning how to interface themselves to one or more different types of animal forms after which they then interface more and more of their own subtle culture’s population to a physical avatar form. However, in that to do this, they’d have to become experts in the human reproduction system as well as of the timing of the processes/stages of development of the fetus during pregnancy as part of interfacing the subtle form to the developing fetus correctly.

In this respect, wouldn’t you then expect that the specific immortal subtle beings/forms whom in the very distant past likely spent ages studying/researching/absorbed in the likely many and varied as well as complex factors related of the subtle form to human fetus interfacing efforts to such an extent that if in the future they themselves were also then interfaced to a physical form then isn’t it possible, maybe even likely that they’d have these specific past experiences resurfacing!?!?!?

Strangely this book for example “Parenting Begins Before Conception: A Guide to Preparing Body, Mind and Spirit for you and your future child” describes and goes into the spirit to human interfacing possibilities specifically IN VERY GREAT DETAIL!!!
Entire Subtle Culture Populations Being Interfaced/Incarnated as part of a Physical Earth Civilisation Possibilities

If you are knowingly setting up a ‘physical’ civilisation that would involve massive physical environment research as well as massive efforts to develop interfacing technologies for a project that would involve having to house and or protect/keep safe the stored (likely in a secure ‘pod’ somewhere) a very large population which also likely needs to be permanently monitored as well as checked to ensure that the subtle form doesn’t degrade in some way due to being inert/inactive . . . then wouldn’t all of this involve a super/ultra massive effort and or expense for any culture that was intent on doing this . . . AND wouldn’t all of this require a massive and highly organised ‘organisation’ to oversee all of this and or perhaps many sub organisations to deal with different aspects of these efforts . . .

As a start to this section, I’m going to come back to Incorporeal Essence from above: (usage begins in 15th century) Middle English incorporealle, from Anglo-French incorporel, from Latin incorporeus, from in- + corporeus corporeal. Not corporeal : 1. having no material body or form but a spiritual form, OR relating to, or constituting a right that is based on property (such as bonds or patents).

Incorporeal (adj.): early 15c., “spiritual, immaterial,” with -al (1) and Late Latin incorporeus “without body,” from in- “not” (see in- (1)) + adjective from corpus (genitive corporis) “body” (from PIE root *kwrep- “body, form, appearance”). The Old French adjective was incorporel. Glossed in Old English as lichhaemleas (see lich).

I want you to have a think about the last reference above: relating to, or constituting a right that is based on property (such as bonds or patents). Incorporeal Essence Incarnating means that you are Born!!!

Corpus (n.): “matter of any kind,” literally “a body,” (plural corpora), late 14c., “body,” from Latin corpus, literally “body” (see corporeal). The sense of “body of a person” (mid-15c. in English) and “collection of facts or things” (1727 in English) both were present in Latin.

Corporeal (adj.): 1610s, “of a material or physical nature, not mental or spiritual,” with adjectival suffix -al (1) + Latin corporeus “of the nature of a body,” from corpus “body” (living or dead), from PIE *kwrpes, from root *kwrep- “body, form, appearance.” Meaning “relating to a material body or physical thing” is from 1660s. Related: Corporeality, corporeally.

Corporation (n.): mid-15c., corporacioun, “persons united in a body for some purpose,” from such use in Anglo-Latin, from Late Latin corporationem (nominative corporatio) “assumption of a body” (used of the incarnation of Christ), noun of action from past-participle stem of Latin corporare “embody, make or fashion into a body,” from corpus (genitive corporis) “body, dead body, animal body,” also “a whole composed of united parts, a structure, system, community, corporation, political body, a guild” (from PIE root *kwrep- “body, form, appearance”). Meaning “legally authorized entity, artificial person created by law from a group or succession of persons” (such as municipal governments and modern business companies) is from 1610s.

Corporate (adj.): early 15c., “united in one body, constituted as a legal corporation,” as a number of individuals empowered to do business as an individual, in early use often of municipalities, from Latin corporatus, past participle of corporare “make or fashion into a body, furnish with a body,” also “to make into a corpse, kill,” from corpus (genitive corporis) “body” (from PIE root *kwrep- “body, form, appearance”). The past participle, corporatus, also was used as a noun meaning “member of a corporation.”

*kwrep-: Proto-Indo-European root meaning “body, form, appearance,” probably a verbal root meaning “to appear.”. It forms all or part of: corporal (adj.) “of or belonging to the body;” corporate; corporation; corporeal; corps; corpse; corpulence; corpulent; corpus; corpuscle; corsage; corse; corset; incorporeal; incorporate; leprechaun; midriff.

COMMENT/S: Is it only me that finds it strange that we have a spread of related words including incorporeal linking being incarnated into the physical and incorporations which is the legal term meaning to legally found (perhaps!!!) a ‘physical’ ‘company’ or ‘Corporate’ ‘entity’ that all originate from the root term/concept of *Kwerp-!!!! hence ‘incorporate’ below implies a none physical organisation/united body of people

Incorporate (v.): late 14c., “to put (something) into the body or substance of (something else), blend; absorb, eat,” also “solidify, harden,” often in medical writing, from Late Latin incorporatus, past participle of incorporare “unite into one body, embody, include,” from Latin in- “into, in, on, upon” (from PIE root *en “in”) + verb from corpus (genitive corporis) “body” (from PIE root *kwrep- “body, form, appearance”). Meaning “to legally form a body politic with perpetual succession and power to act as one person, establish as a legal corporation” is from mid-15c. (A verb corporate was used in this sense from early 15c.) Intransitive sense of “unite with another body so as to become part of it” is from 1590s. Related: Incorporated; incorporating.

COMMENT/S: I quote: “to put (something) into the body or substance of (something else), blend; absorb, eat,“. This underlined section above is ‘substantially’ equivalent in descriptive terms to putting or blending or incorporating a soul/subtle/spirit based life form into something solid/hard (at least compared to something readily described in ‘breath/moisture’ terms . . . hence then the soul spirit form would become ‘substantive’ i.e. it would go from something amorphous/ethereal to something solid/hard i.e. physically ‘touchable’!!!! Strangely, doesn’t “unite into one body” directly imply the merging of more than one body (i.e. two bodies) into one!!! Which coincidentally is ‘exactly’ what you get when you interface the soul/spirit form into any physical animal’s body!!!

Embody (v.): 1540s, in reference to a soul or spirit invested with a physical form; from 1660s of principles, ideas, etc.; from em- (1) “in” + body (n.). Related: Embodied; embodying.:  To give a body to (a spirit) (i.e. Incarnate (adj.): late 14c., “embodied in flesh, in human or bodily form” (of souls, spirits, etc.), from Late Latin incarnatus “made flesh,” a frequent word among early Christian writers, past-participle adjective from Latin incarnare “to make flesh” (see incarnation). Of qualities or abstractions, 1530s.)!!!

Other associations/uses of ‘Embody’: to deprive of spirituality, to make concrete and perceptible,  to cause to become a body or part of a body: INCORPORATE

Incorporation: In checking various early language definitions, there are 5 definition ‘angles’ given for ‘Incorporation’, below are the ‘3’ that I personally find the most interesting:

“To give substance or material form to; i.e. to ’embody’ /to be combined into one united body; merged”
“To unite (one thing) with something else already in existence.”
“To cause to merge or combine together into a united whole.”

So, once again, we have terms and words used that strongly as well as directly imply the embodiment or merging of a soul/spirit form with a physical body i.e. a spirit form being incarnated into ‘flesh’!!!! In other words it very strongly implies that ‘incorporation’ was originally describing the practice of subtle ‘people/spirit forms’ being interfaced to a physical form resulting in them being ‘incorporated’ into the ‘PHYSICAL’ reality?

In other words for at least ‘SOME’ of those that decided that they wanted to move their entire subtle/spirit population into the physical (which would take a massive amount of EXTREME organisation) and particularly in terms of making this entire set up work seamlessly i.e to automatically select the next available physical ‘vehicle/avatar’ i.e. physical fetus it will be interfaced to be returned (likely yet again) to the earth physical society . . .

Interestingly, the above original/early language descriptions are then replaced with the following:

“To admit as a member to a corporation or similar organization.”
“To cause to form into a legal corporation: incorporate a business.”

Which appear to imply/suggest that the perhaps subtle ‘ORGANISATIONS’ that were originally focused on ‘incorporating’ subtle beings into the physical as part of their physical ’empire/civilisation’ building/program efforts i.e. these original organisations CEO’s, directors and managers and workforce are perhaps now those here that are directing, managing and or working for what have been converted here into entirely ‘VISIBLE’ physical ‘CORPORATIONS’ . . .

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The above, descriptions in an overall sense all very strongly imply that a corporation is equivalent to some ‘enterprise’ that is subtle based and which is directly associated with overseeing and or maybe utilising those incarnated into our physical reality/earth world!!!

With respect to later sections above and the massive effort and organisation required to interface an entire subtle population into the physical then perhaps ‘some’ subtle races and or cultures may decide that they want some ‘payback/return’ for all of these efforts/their investments!!!!

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With respect to this ‘bizarre’ possibility specifically, here are some interesting as well as disturbing ‘facts’ that I read about on a web site called viewzone:
The Birth Certificate as Representing a Warehouse Receipt/Payment!!!

The original birth or naturalization record for every U.S. Citizen is on file in the official records in Washington, D.C. (you get to keep a copy!) and the property and assets of every living U.S. Citizen is pledged as collateral for the National Debt! Within two weeks and three days each Certificate of Live Birth is to be filed in Washington D.C. Evidence reveals that there is even a Federal Children Department established by the Shepherd/Townsend Act of 1922 under the Department of Commerce that appears to be involved in this process in some way. Every citizen is given a number (the red number on the Birth Certificate) and each live birth is valued at from 650,000 to 750,000 Federal Reserve dollars in collateral from the Fed. This kind of makes you feel a little different when you look at Federal Reserve Chairman, Nancy Yellen, doesn’t it?

OK. Let’s take a pause to look at the Birth Certificates [below to the right]. You will see the red numbers and you will see the fact that it is, in reality, a “Bank Note”, hence then directly implying that you and I are actually then ‘commodities’!!!!

 

The Possible Implications of Names in “ALL CAPS” weirdness on Birth Certificates

Since the early 1960s, State governments have issued Birth Certificates to “persons” with legal fictional names using “ALL CAPS” names. This is not a lawful record of your physical birth, but rather the acknowledgement of the “birth” of the juristic, all-caps name. It may appear to be your true name, but since no proper name is ever written in all caps (either lawfully or grammatically) it does not identify who you are.

The Birth Certificate is the government’s self-created document of title for its new property — you and me!!!

The state claims an interest in every child within its jurisdiction. The state (via CPS) will, if it deems it necessary, nullify your parental rights and appoint a guardian (trustee) over your children. The subject of every birth certificate is a child. The child is a valuable asset, which if properly trained, can contribute valuable assets provided by its labor for many years. It is presumed by those who have researched this issue, that the child itself is the asset of the trust established by the birth certificate, and the social security number is the numbering or registration of the trust, allowing for the assets of the trust to be tracked.

If this information is true, your child is now owned by the state. Each one of us, including our children, are considered assets of the bankrupt UNITED STATES. We are now designated by this government as “HUMAN RESOURCES” with a new crop born every year.

In a way, it makes us a kind of corporation whose company name is the same as our real name, but written in ALL CAPS. This “corporation” then generates taxes and wealth over its lifetime and in this way repays the collateral that Uncle Sam borrowed from the Federal Reserve.

Remember that “Bond” thing printed on the bottom of the certificate, let’s take a closer look at the word ‘Bond’ (Merriam-Webster Dictionary of Law (1996)).

1a: A usually formal written agreement by which a person undertakes to perform a certain act (as fulfill the obligations of a contract) … with the condition that failure to perform or abstain will obligate the person … to pay a sum of money or will result in the forfeiture of money put up by the person or surety.
1b: One who acts as a surety.

2: An interest-bearing document giving evidence of a debt issued by a government body or corporation that is sometimes secured by a lien on property and is often designed to take care of a particular financial need.”

Banknote: a kind of negotiable instrument, a promissory note made by a bank payable to the bearer on demand, used as money, and in many jurisdictions is legal tender. Along with coins, banknotes make up the cash or bearer forms of all modern money.

Birth certificates are a form of securities called “warehouse receipts.” The items included on a warehouse receipt, as descried at §7-202 of the Uniform Commercial Code, the law which governs commercial paper and transactions, which parallel a birth certificate are:

    The location of the warehouse where the goods are stored…(residence)
    The date of issue of the receipt…..(“Date issued”)
    The consecutive number of the receipt…(found on back or front of the certificate, usually in red numbers)
    A description of the goods or of the packages containing them…(name, sex, date of birth, etc.)
    The signature of the warehouseman, which may be made by his authorized agent…(municipal clerk or state registrar’s signature)

Based on the above, then birth certificates appear to at least qualify as “warehouse receipts” under the Uniform Commercial Code. Black’s Law Dictionary, 7th ed. defines:

Warehouse Receipt:

“A warehouse receipt, which is considered a document of title, may be a negotiable instrument and is often used for financing with inventory as security.”

It is not difficult to see that a state-created Birth Certificate, with an ALL CAPS name is a document evidencing debt the moment it is issued.

Now, once a state has registered a birth document with the U.S. Department of Commerce, the Department notifies the Treasury Department, which takes out a loan from the Federal Reserve. The Treasury uses the loan to purchase a bond (the Fed holds a purchase money security interest in the bond) from the Department of Commerce, which invests the sale proceeds in the stock or bond market. The Treasury Department then issues Treasury securities in the form of Treasury Bonds, Notes, and Bills using the bonds as surety for the new securities.

This cycle is based on the future tax revenues of the legal person whose name appears on the Birth Certificate. This also means that the bankrupt, corporate U.S. can guarantee to the purchasers of their securities the lifetime labour and tax revenues of every citizen of the United States/American with a Birth Certificate as collateral for payment. This device is initiated simply by converting the lawful, true name of the child into a legal, juristic name of a person.

Legally, you are considered to be a slave or indentured servant to the various Federal, State and local governments via your STATE-issued and STATE-created Birth Certificate in the name of your all-caps person.
Birth Certificates are issued so that the issuer can claim exclusive title to the legal person created thereby!!!

HOWEVER!!!! . . . . after having a think about the above for a while . . . then, as this birth certificate is being presented as a warehouse receipt/payment and as your subtle/spirit/soul body must be being looked after as well as being kept safe ‘SOMEWHERE’ i.e. it’ll have to be:

    Kept, safe within some very secure/protected subtle reality/strata storage area/space (i.e. some subtle equivalent to a ‘warehouse’) while . . . in that it’s not a box of cash or coins . . . such that . . .
    It’ll have to be regularly monitored/checked/looked after either by subtle forms/trained personnel and or sophisticated automated monitoring/diagnostic/apply remedies systems and particularly to ensure that it’s health doesn’t depreciate during the time it’s being interfaced to a physical human form during which it’ll be lying in an inert state, unconscious of and hence then unable to respond to it’s subtle surroundings . . . never mind . . .
    All of the research and development necessary with respect to providing the interfacing to the physical vehicle itself . . .

Such that, it seems to me that at least for certain cultures here, that these ‘WAREHOUSE’ STORAGE, MAINTENANCE & PROTECTION/SECURITY costs are being recouped as a human vehicle incarnation, new human birth, have a physical human life tax/charge!!!!

After reading the above you may find the following interesting too:

Prophet: is a person who speaks for God or a deity, or by divine inspiration and or who foretells/predicts the future.
Profit: (in terms of ‘corporations’ and ‘shares’) is about making gains, leverage or an ‘advantage’ by being the best at assessing trends/predicting future outcomes.
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    Clive
    November 20, 2019 @ 6:12 pm

    NEW POST . . . it’s taken ages to get all of the information together for this page and then ages to get it written in a decent form (its about 20 pages of A4 in length, so equivalent to a decent book chapter!!!!) . . . I also still consider this page to be a ‘work in progress’ despite that it (to me) seems to be exceptionally good now . . . so if you can think of any other connected angles and or ‘associations’ leave a comment!!!!

    Also, as you read it I’ve pointed out obvious things like WhereTF would early ‘humans’ get concepts such as ‘immortal’ from never mind obviously applying it to ‘THEMSELVES’?!?!?! . . . so ‘again’ if any other words strike you as out of place for earlier 600 years ago way more primitive times and or in ‘concept/meaning’ terms then point these out in a comment too!!!!

    Also as ‘English’ as a language is crap/shite as it just doesn’t have the words to cover specific concepts never mind some ‘alternate’ experiences . . . so if your ‘foreign’ and or are familiar with other languages and can think of related other language terms/words that either I’ve missed on this page or that would relate to what I’m writing about here then again maybe leave a comment to let me know about them/these!!!!

    Also, it’s worth reading it all the way to the bottom because the most ‘blatant/in your face/stark/unbelievable’ part is left till the very end!!!!

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    Tommy
    November 20, 2019 @ 8:55 pm

    Clive you said people being turned into trees story of Daphne and Apollo. Daphne was a nymph and Apollo fancied her didn’t really work out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_and_Daphne Maybe have a chat with her dad. You spoke about the metempsychosis have you had a chat with Persephone about how that exactly worked? I’d also try to see if you could have a chat with Ninhursag her husband made the human animal form. For the hindu thing I’d see if you could have a chat with Ganesha since he’s a wisdom deity. I’d also have a chat with Thoth Anubis and Isis because well remember that Isis her husband actually died and they somehow fixed his corpse. Idk if you could get any of those to talk I remember you had a chat with Isis while doing a entity release of someone. Basically if you figure out their tricks I’d think you might undo some things they did shoddy. I wouldn’t risk talking to the chief deity of Greeks but remember his nifty trick of separating the sun and moon parts. There is a certain Titan who brought fire to humanity and he also was very good in prophecy maybe have a chat. I remember the original Babylonian myths that the gods made humans as slaves what is the chance that they tricked our subtle forms to be trapped into the human animal form what if your theories of the eeas are wrong yes there was a a eeas but what if those were just stuck in another simulation made by those shitty Babylonian entities and they are stuck in a simulation of some other shitty beings ect. Might be a long shot and it’s a lot of speculation they might not even wanna talk but maybe go dig in their scripts if humans have scripts then the deities must also have scripts just delete this because it’s prolly a shit comment

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        Clive
        December 8, 2019 @ 4:18 pm

        Very interesting Tommy, I’m impressed with your knowledge of the early God’s . . . when I was first setting up as a healer which included myself at some point putting together this web site, which then had me checking other ‘healing’ sites, during which I kept coming across the Caduceus healing symbol . . . which felt sort of familiar, BUT also seemed to me to be associated with all sorts of types of pseudo healing efforts (like Medical Schools for example) such that I never used it . . .

        ‘However’ at some point about 2 and a half decades ago myself and a couple of friends went on a drift wood hunt (I was thinking about this a few weeks ago) such that I came back with loads of interesting drift wood pieces including an entire gnarly/burr covered drift wood tree stump whose burr’s seemed to me to be presenting faces (i.e. it was a smaller version but very similar to the lower trunk part of the Game of Thrones sacred tree) . . . I also came back with two longish ‘undulating/snake like’ branches which when placed together were then strangely suggestive of the Caduceus staff!!!!

        ——–

        However, a good few years later . . . I’m having some weird ‘energetic’ shit going on with my right arm, which is sort of more and more feeling as if it’s going sort of ‘dead’ (and particularly in energetic/channelling energy terms) more and more from above the wrist getting closer and closer to the elbow (like when you sleep in a certain position lying on an arm such that on waking up your arm can then doesn’t work/function properly for a while) . . . except it had been getting steadily worse for a few weeks at this point . . .

        While this weird arm thing is going on I have a guy book a healing session, and specifically because a healer friend of mine has told him he should see me . . . so, he comes. It turns out that he’s started to spontaneously do healing/heal people beginning a few weeks ago, he’s very excited about this . . . so excited that as soon as he arrives he insists on showing me how he heals . . . i.e. he wants to give me a ‘blast’ of his healing . . . which he then does . . . even more strange is that I feel nothing . . . like nothing happens . . . he’s also very puzzled by this . . . ‘now’ at this point he looks at me directly and steps back slightly shocked/taken aback like he’s seen some sort of ghost or ??? . . . however, he then tells me he’s seeing me in a brown monk looking robe, wearing leather sandals while also having a helmet on my head AND . . . here’s the thing . . . both my sandals and my helmet apparently HAVE WINGS . . .

        So, he’s basically describing myself as Hermes the God of healing Hahhahahhaha!!! . . .

        So, in feeling into ALL OF THIS while also trying to get my head around WTF is going on . . . I then realise that he’s someone that actually NICKED my/Hermes healing staff, i.e. my healing channelling abilities (hence then my right arm is missing it’s healing channelling tech because during this time/phase in my script this ‘BOZO’ stole it . . . ) . . .

        So, I take my tech back, BUT I also then make a duplicate of the tech and ‘sort of’ pass it over to him . . . my right arm then goes back to ‘normal’!!!!

        Now Tommy, my nature spirit awakening experience that I described here, is missing some extra weird bit’s . . . after completely leaving/walking away from the tree circle area, about a quarter mile away I feel and start to track myself being followed by a Wood Nymph whom seems to me to be in a very very sexy/seductive/enticing mood (with respect to myself) . . . which has myself ‘energetically’ determinedly sealing myself off from her . . . while doing this Joan also starts laughing while also mentioning that I’ve a very seductive Wood Nymph trailing me while also mentioning that it’s best I ‘NOT’ let her engage with myself else I might have trouble getting rid of her . . .

        On reading about Hermes . . . I find that after being ‘created’ (by I think Maya and ???/cannot remember now) I then run away while also apparently stealing my fathers ‘cattle’.

        Now, when accessing my own soul creation time (as described here way down in that page in section: How I became Aware of my Soul Parents & My ‘Creation’ as a Soul Child). I found that I wasn’t the product of a normal soul form dividing/splitting effort BUT that I was very specifically ‘created’ from specifically chosen subtle body form characteristics/attributes/parts from 4 soul parents. So, 4 subtle forms (facilitated by subtle tech) select out and duplicate very specific parts of there subtle body which would have the very specific attributes/qualities/skills/abilities etc that they wanted the new subtle form to have . . . which are then put together in a hi tech subtle chamber which then works to ‘meld’ all of these parts together . . . ‘NOW’ in engaging with these experiences (about 2 decades ago now) I find that while this is happening/in progress a sort of subtle ‘reality’ quake activates and keeps sending shock waves out, which completely disturb my soul parent forms whom are tending/looking after me, as well as myself . . . which get’s so stressful that I’m so pissed off with my soul parents having no ability to do anything about this that on exiting the ‘melding’ chamber I head off away from them as fast as possible . . .

        Hermes is the God of healing and the God of Thievery, the second of which had me very puzzled (as I’ve no cat-burglar type inclinations at all – haha) until I found early language descriptions describing ‘thievery’ as being able to ‘get access to’ impossible places . . . now the original description is worded in such a way that I eventually realised that it’s referring to someone that has exceptional REMOTE VIEWING/ACCESSING abilities i.e. it’s describing someone that can access anything/anywhere remotely . . . hence then I’ve managed to access my own soul creation times (in unbelievable detail) which happened within the multiverse next door to the multiverse outside of our shit EAAS version!!!!

        I also read later that Hermes was also known for regularly meeting up with a Wood Nymph type too!!!!!!

        Also, in being commissioned to be ‘designed/created’ to have very specific characteristics/attributes by using subtle body material from 4 subtle being donors, specifically for a very specific ‘project’ (in my case to remotely view and figure out WTF the EAAS project is actually going to do) . . . then you could at a stretch say that by and large it’s possible that whomever sanctioned the ‘design/creation’ of myself whom specifically did this for myself to be the leader of the entire ‘spy on the EAAS project’ teams effort . . . would by and large perhaps consider myself to be there ‘property’ . . . and in evacuating/disappearing/running off this could perhaps be seen/described here as being equivalent to “stealing ‘cattle’/someone’s property”!!!!

        There is a series called Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell which is all about two rival ‘magicians/wizards’!!! This series represent the efforts put into manipulating two very competent ‘subtle’ beings in attempts to have them become rivals/causing each other more and more problems!!!!

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    Shalin
    November 20, 2019 @ 10:58 pm

    I’ve taken one read so far (will re-read a few more times to let it sync in), although I’m not certain how the changes in the meaning of the words (over time) that you listed are useful other than serve as evidence that there is a deliberate attempt to keep us unaware of our subtle origins.

    One word that immediately came to mind that is associated is the Chinese word: Shen, which has many meanings and references and is a very old word.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shen_(Chinese_religion)

    The reference to Dante’s hell (Ring 2: Against Self), trees and hellish existence perfectly describes my situation. My current existence is beyond hellish. I frequently have thoughts of ending it because of the extreme hellish nature of what I am physically going through.

    Have you thought about Zaqqum, which is a tree referenced in the Quran:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaqqum

    The reference doesn’t involve incarnating/interfacing subtle beings as trees but there is a reference where those in the hell are forced to eat the fruit of this tree (devil’s fruit):

    The fruits of Zaqqum are shaped like devils’ heads (Qur’an 37:62-68). Some Islamic scholars believe in a literal meaning of this tree grown in fire, showing the inverted flora of hell. The inhabitants of hell are forced to eat the tree’s fruits, which tears their bodies apart and releases bodily fluids as a punishment.

    Theres also the tree of knowledge of good/evil – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_the_knowledge_of_good_and_evil

    But not sure how that would tie in but I imagine you’ve already thought of this.

    The birth-certificate/US-government/federal-reserve thing for some reason to resonate strongly with me. For a long time I’ve had this belief that we are basically slaves to the state and the system.

    But as it relates to us as subtle beings – would this apply to all of us? There are subtle beings who are interfaced to human avatars who live privileged lives – those in the top 10% of wealth for example or those who are wealthy and have no physical or mental health problems. Reminds me of the film Elysium with Matt Damon:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elysium_(film)

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        Clive
        November 22, 2019 @ 4:02 pm

        Thanks for these Shalin, the top 3 and particularly that ‘tree of good and evil’ is very ‘striking’ I can maybe use these for another angle sometime!!!

        The Elysium film, I cannot remember that one BUT I’ve watched ‘Altered Carbon’ a few times as it’s striking that the ‘sky’ residences are of the ‘Lords’ that are then actually living within the subtle and not only are they presented as having a formal garden (of an ‘eden’ like presentation) but the main ‘Lord’ even has what is pointed out as a very special ‘tree’ within this ‘mansion’ i.e. the tree represents the physical populations ‘interfacing’ efforts/interfaced circumstances . . . the coiled snake in the ‘intro’ is representing being ‘incarnated’ AND the double coiled snake is implying for ever and ever i.e. your going to be re-interfaced forever and ever!!!!

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    Shalin
    November 21, 2019 @ 12:46 am

    Also any useful link between neural networks (dendrite trees) in human/animal brains and physical tree’s?

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        Clive
        November 21, 2019 @ 1:27 am

        Shalin re ‘neural networks ‘dendrite trees’ . . . I’d bet money that tree root mycelium or ‘similar/other root’ structures are organised to represent logic structures/neural networks . . . good way to keep these hidden!!! Also, the most recent shit designs we’ve encountered were related to the film ‘The Adjustment Bureau’ (AB) and the Spanish series ‘Minesterio Del Tempo’ the AB film uses doors as portals to magically get access to pretty much anywhere while the Spanish series uses doors to access places though time AND both are about keeping the future on track . . . as most doors yet again usually either are entirely ‘wood’ or use wood products as part of there make up then these are possibly yet another creative/magical tree/wood angle!!!!

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    Olivia
    November 21, 2019 @ 11:21 am

    2nd time i’m trying to post. An error came up saying “an error has occurred. You posted your comment too quickly. try again later.” Weird.

    So here I go, second time round:

    My husband works on creating simulations and running test environments for various insurance companies which then result in these systems going live. He struggles with the craziest amount of anomalies, works so fucking hard to work out every kink (there is a compulsion to do this – he’s close to burnout – and he doesn’t get well rewarded for the hours). The point is, we talk. I told him to relax a little & not be surprised by anomalies. So, we’re talking about his system & I mentioned to be on the lookout for managed thinking. People being puppeted (like a Mr. Smith).

    His reply was: Interesting! The tool that runs the deployment is called puppet! Xx

    Tool in South Africa is slang for “an idiot” as in “you are a ‘tool’” / “what a ‘tool’!”

    Puppet I found extremely interesting too:
    Definition of Puppet:
    a person, group, government, etc., whose actions are prompted and controlled by another or others.

    an ARTIFICIAL figure representing a human being or an animal, MANIPULATED by “the hand”

    Of course “the hand” to me immediately reminded me of “god” (the hand of god).

    And then I found: According to Aristotle, the hand is the “tool of tools.” This seemed odd too, because it’s almost like a joke: “the hand” of god is a “tool” (idiot).

    So to go back to my husbands original reply, the meaning of his current project is:

    “The tool (Idiot) that runs the deployment is called ‘puppet’” – an ARTIFICIAL figure representing a human being or an animal, MANIPULATED by the “hand” (god/a “tool” / “idiot”).

    Literally provides him with all the information he has to know about his project – or therefore perhaps, in general – simulations!? Hahahaha! This came minutes after I started reading your updated post.

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        Clive
        November 23, 2019 @ 6:10 pm

        Hi Olivia, and this also fits well with this page as we/us/humans/people are also being viewed as useful/valuable tools and hence then have an assigned ‘value/worth’ at birth too. It’s possible your husband (being a copied/duplicate person here) was working on the EAAS project doing something similar with respect to getting people/humans ‘animated’ correctly!!!!

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    Shalin
    November 22, 2019 @ 3:37 am

    You may want to investigate the following films if you, Matt/Tom haven’t already done so:

    1. The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chronicles_of_Narnia:_The_Lion,_the_Witch_and_the_Wardrobe

    A wardrobe made from a magic tree that transports people to the netherworld of Narnia. (magic tree angle)

    2. Being John Malkovich
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Being_John_Malkovich

    A door behind a filing cabinet that transports people to the inside of John Malkovich’s head. (door/wood portal angle)

    3. Monsters Inc.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsters,_Inc.

    Closets that transport people and monsters between the monster-ruled city of Monstropolis and children’s bedrooms. (closets/door/wood portal angle)

    4. The Nightmare Before Christmas
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nightmare_Before_Christmas

    A tree that transports people to Christmas Town. (tree portal angle)

    5. Poltergeist (1982).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poltergeist_(1982_film)

    Bizarre events occur the following day: a drinking glass of milk spontaneously breaks, silverware bends, and furniture moves of its own accord. The phenomena seem benign at first, but quickly begin to intensify. That night, a gnarled backyard tree comes alive and grabs Robbie through the bedroom window. While Steve rescues Robbie, Carol Anne is sucked into a portal that appears in her closet. The Freelings realize something supernatural has occurred when they hear her voice emanating from the television set that is tuned to an empty channel.

    (tree/closet portal angle)

    6. Stranger Things Netflix series

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_Things
    https://strangerthings.fandom.com/wiki/Portals

    Various portals throughout the series but there is one at the base of a tree:

    When Jonathan and Nancy went searching for the Demogorgon on Mirkwood, they came across a wounded deer. As they were about to perform a mercy kill on it, it was suddenly pulled away by an unseen force. Following the trail of blood, Nancy discovered an open portal in the base of a tree

    7) Avatar (you likely already investigated this) – 2009 film with the home tree / tree of souls as the center of the civilization for the Na’vi people on Pandora

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_(2009_film)
    https://james-camerons-avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Tree_of_Souls

    The Tree of Souls, besides being a connection to Eywa, also works as a way for her to directly interact with the world through the seeds of the tree. The tree has the capability to connect directly to the human nervous system, despite humans lacking a queue. The roots of the Tree of Souls are capable of initiating a neural link with the Na’vi, like with the Tree of Voices. This allows all of the Na’vi to unite as one.

    8. Sleepy Hollow – 1999 with Jonny Depp

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcOENbnXxQ4 (tree of the dead scene)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleepy_Hollow_(film)

    The is tree in the film that is the portal into the living world (hellmouth) – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellmouth

    9. Game of Thrones (HBO tv series) – there is a tree type called Weirwoods which have faces carved into their trunks and have eyes. It is said that they enable one to see into the past/future and provide extraordinary powers/magic

    https://gameofthrones.fandom.com/wiki/Weirwood
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYWdjm3bRvo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiq-Fwrzub0
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF0CZNLBTgQ

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        Clive
        December 2, 2019 @ 1:23 pm

        ‘AND’ thanks for the tree film list to Shalin

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    Olivia
    November 22, 2019 @ 4:39 pm

    Shalin – it’s interesting that you often refer to TCM terminology. I keep meaning to post something, but somehow it never comes about. I am a TCM practitioner and was trying to convey the meaning of Qi & Shen yesterday. I did some searching through the net (acupuncture today etc/various manuals by Maciocia) on all the connections with the organs/emotions/spirits etc.

    Clive – from our perspective as practitioners of TCM, there are Hun and Po spirits. They also relate to a direction, a season, an emotion and an organ.

    https://giovanni-maciocia.com/shen-and-hun-psyche-in-chinese-medicine/

    We also use the word Qi, which is the idea of a “universal source of energy”. Any energy which has power and strength, has qi. That could be electricity, magnetism, heat or light. Even the weather has qi.

    In some of the earliest Chinese texts, like the I Ching or Book of Changes, they described qi as ‘breath’ (not that I’ve had the chance to read the translations, but it’s well known & taught).

    I remember when I was in China studying, the lecturers told us something along the lines of “human beings were created when a “god” brought terracotta statues to life by exposing them to qi, “the breath of the world’s beginning”.

    Qi is something so essential to “life”, that the Chinese character for qi is made up of those for ‘rice’ and ‘steam’.

    So you can think of it as the steam from a warming bowl of rice, something that keeps you alive. This goes along nicely with breath/spirit etc you mention in this page Clive.

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        Clive
        November 23, 2019 @ 5:52 pm

        Hi Olivia, TCM Traditional Chinese Medicine!!!

        I had a phase of using acupressure and a very good western version of the I-Ching for ‘dowsing/advice’ too (likely 2 decades+ ago now)

        Keep in mind that these healing/health approaches relate to an underwater culture (remember the crabs as humans links I gave on the home page here) i.e. it’s one of a very few cultures that at least was trying to give it’s in the air spirit/soul incarnated people a full 3 dimensional living environment (an entire underwater environment) rather than just a 2D flat surface one. So, they also designed in the acupuncture system that via the interfacing allows ailments of the subtle form to be diagnosed and treated (hence modern medicine research of acupuncture isn’t allowed to confirm the effectiveness of TCM!!!!)

        On the others hand the acu pressure/acupuncture has been co-opted within the EAAS to (like everything else) be used as a subtle backdoor into the human form . . .

        This web copy of a book: https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/antigravityworldgrid/ciencia_antigravityworldgrid06.htm#Ley%20Lines%20and%20The%20Meaning%20Of%20Adam

        . . . that is no longer available to buy (I’m not surprised as it’s too revealing) showing how the human acupuncture points/places not only also match up with some ley lines they also match up with various star systems too i.e. in the latter case aspects of the ‘heavens’ which will then allow the EAAS ‘universe’ to generate/use emissions from these star systems to mess with peoples subtle form and then through this the human body processes/functions!!!

        There are backdoors/often multiple backdoors into everything/every aspect of everything here!!!!

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    Clive
    November 25, 2019 @ 2:43 pm

    EVERYONE . . . you might find this interesting . . .

    The current series at least from one angle is arguing that any investigation of any/all original subtle/soul/spirit form cultures of the physical strata is exceptionally unlikely to focus on ‘humans’ ONLY i.e. it is in fact highly likely that we should have many human grade in intelligence ‘animals’ here as part of the larger society . . .

    If this is correct, which it is because I’ve pointed out in links on the front/home page here I already compiled extensive evidence that some people ‘here’ whom are currently presenting as ‘humans’ have in fact been ‘converted’ (via software) into humans from being a crab species . . .

    In other words we appear to have at least some point in the past been subjected to a planet wide ‘transformation’ where all intelligent animals (i.e. all those that have via interfacing resulted in the spirit/soul/subtle form being ‘made flesh’ within a none human animal form) have all then been converted/rendered as a human . . . HOWEVER . . . until this point in our past we’d then have cultures that were (likely) a very, very diverse mixture of ‘intelligent’ animals . . .

    ……………………………..

    Recently I came across a book written in 1906 that is describing in great detail past criminal prosecution cases specifically involving ‘animals’ . . . called:

    THE CRIMINAL PROSECUTION AND
    CAPITAL PUNISHMENT OF ANIMALS

    Here is an extract:

    CHAPTER I
    BUGS AND BEASTS BEFORE THE LAW

    It is said that Bartholomew Chassenée,[1] a distinguished French jurist of the sixteenth century (born at Issy-l’Evêque in 1480), made his reputation at the bar as counsel for some rats, which had been put on trial before the ecclesiastical court of Autun on the charge of having feloniously eaten up and wantonly destroyed the barley-crop of that province. On complaint formally presented by the magistracy, the official or bishop’s vicar, who exercised jurisdiction in such cases, cited the culprits to appear on a certain day and appointed Chassenée to defend them.

    In view of the bad repute and notorious guilt of his clients, Chassenée was forced to employ all sorts of legal shifts and chicane, dilatory pleas and other technical objections, hoping thereby to find some loophole in the meshes of the law through which the accused might escape,[Pg 19] or at least to defer and mitigate the sentence of the judge. He urged, in the first place, that inasmuch as the defendants were dispersed over a large tract of country and dwelt in numerous villages, a single summons was insufficient to notify them all; he succeeded, therefore, in obtaining a second citation, to be published from the pulpits of all the parishes inhabited by the said rats. At the expiration of the considerable time which elapsed before this order could be carried into effect and the proclamation be duly made, he excused the default or non-appearance of his clients on the ground of the length and difficulty of the journey and the serious perils which attended it, owing to the unwearied vigilance of their mortal enemies, the cats, who watched all their movements, and, with fell intent, lay in wait for them at every corner and passage. On this point Chassenée addressed the court at some length, in order to show that if a person be cited to appear at a place, to which he cannot come with safety, he may exercise the right of appeal and refuse to obey the writ, even though such appeal be expressly precluded in the summons. The point was argued as seriously as though it were a question of family feud between Capulet and Montague in Verona or Colonna and Orsini in Rome.

    ——————— another extract:

    Sometimes the obnoxious vermin were generously forewarned. Thus the grand-vicars of Jean Rohin, Cardinal Bishop of Autun, having been informed that slugs were devastating several estates in different parts of his diocese, on the 17th of August, 1487, ordered[Pg 37] public processions to be made for three days in every parish, and enjoined upon the said slugs to quit the territory within this period under penalty of being accursed. On the 8th of September, 1488, a similar order was issued at Beaujeu. The curates were charged to make processions during the offices, and the slugs were warned three times to cease from vexing the people by corroding and consuming the herbs of the fields and the vines, and to depart; “and if they do not heed this our command, we excommunicate them and smite them with our anathema.” In 1516, the official of Troyes pronounced sentence on certain insects (adversus brucos seu eurucas vel alia non dissimilia animalia, Gallicè urebecs, probably a species of curculio), which laid waste the vines, and threatened them with anathema, unless they should disappear within six days. Here it is expressly stated that a counsellor was assigned to the accused, and a prosecutor heard in behalf of the aggrieved inhabitants. As a means of rendering the anathema more effective, the people are also urged to be prompt and honest in the payment of tithes. Chassenée, too, endorses this view, and in proof of its correctness refers to Malachi, where God promises to rebuke the devourer for man’s sake, provided all the tithes are brought into the storehouse.

    The archives of the old episcopal city of St. Jean-de-Maurienne contain the original records[Pg 38] of legal proceedings instituted against some insects, which had ravaged the vineyards of St. Julien, a hamlet situated on the route over Mt. Cenis and famous for the excellence of its vintage. The defendants in this case were a species of greenish weevil (charançon) known to entomologists as rychites auratus, and called by different names, amblevin, bèche, verpillion, in different provinces of France.

    Complaint was first made by the wine-growers of St. Julien in 1545 before François Bonnivard, doctor of laws. The procurator Pierre Falcon and the advocate Claude Morel defended the insects, and Pierre Ducol appeared for the plaintiffs. After the presentation and discussion of the case by both parties, the official, instead of passing sentence, issued a proclamation, dated the 8th of May, 1546, recommending public prayers and beginning with the following characteristic preamble: “Inasmuch as God, the supreme author of all that exists, hath ordained that the earth should bring forth fruits and herbs (animas vegetativas), not solely for the sustenance of rational human beings, but likewise for the preservation and support of insects, which fly about on the surface of the soil, therefore it would be unbecoming to proceed with rashness and precipitance against the animals now actually accused and indicted; on the contrary, it would be more fitting for us to have recourse to the mercy of heaven and to implore pardon for our[Pg 39] sins.” Then follow instructions as to the manner in which the public prayers are to be conducted in order to propitiate the divine wrath. The people are admonished to turn to the Lord with pure and undivided hearts (ex toto et puro corde), to repent of their sins with unfeigned contrition, and to resolve to live henceforth justly and charitably, and above all to pay tithes. High mass is to be celebrated on three consecutive days, namely on May 20th, 21st, and 22nd, and the host to be borne in solemn procession with songs and supplications round the vineyards. The first mass is to be said in honour of the Holy Spirit, the second in honour of the Blessed Virgin, and the third in honour of the tutelar saint of the parish. At least two persons of each household are required to take part in these religious exercises. A procès-verbal, signed by the curate Romanet, attests that this programme was fully carried out and that the insects soon afterwards disappeared.

    About thirty years later, however, the scourge was renewed and the destructive insects were actually brought to trial. The proceedings are recorded on twenty-nine folia and entitled: De actis scindicorum communitatis Sancti Julliani agentium contra animalia bruta ad formam muscarum volantia coloris viridis communi voce appellata verpillions seu amblevins. The documents, which are still preserved in the archives of St. Julien, were communicated by M. Victor[Pg 40] Dalbane, secretary of the commune, to M. Léon Ménebréa, who printed them in the appendix to his volume: De l’origine de la forme et de l’esprit des jugements rendus au moyen-âge contre les animaux. Chambery, 1846. This treatise appeared originally in the twelfth tome of the Mémoires de la Société Royale Académique de Savoie.

    ————————————————————————-

    Aren’t the above not only ‘bizarre’ but don’t they directly imply that the mentioned cats/rats/slugs and a greenish weevil species were considered to be ‘people’ and hence then were responsible for there actions!!!!

    ————————————————————————-

    A free .pdf of this book is available and can be found/downloaded from here: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm

    If anyone reads more than the above ‘and’ comes across other ‘animal’ species being taken to court copy and paste the ‘shorter’ bits from these as a comment here!!!!

    —————————

    I’ve also re-written parts of the above page and particularly the introduction as well as correcting a lot of spelling errors too!!!!

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    Tommy
    November 25, 2019 @ 7:13 pm

    Clive cant understand what you mean with this comment.

    What I’m picking up is.

    Animals got a trial just like humans. Certain Animals have human like intelligence. Certain animal forms got translated into humans. After the trial the shenanigans of the animals stopped.

    There is a part in the end of the book that mentioned crucified lions in Afrika and that other lions who saw the crucified ones didn’t attack.

    I have been working with a girl named Luna to remove things and become more grounded and she said she perceived my higher self as a coyote humanoid and that I had like a bear and a panther helping me. That those were my siblings. The whole animal thing makes me think of shamanism with the power animals.

    I had another guy check something out and he said he perceived me as a light being basically something like the sun only smaller somewhere else.

    They both found some reptile like creature snacking on me Luna told me she removed it with coyote bear and panther. Clive isn’t your lot checking up on me how tf did I get a reptile attached to me snacking on my whatever if I’m in the hands of your lot?

    The whole animal thing the only other thing I can think of is my ex called hinde that means female deer in dutch. So what’s the possibility that she was a female deer spirit that got interfaced to a human animal form?

    The more I think about stuff the less it all makes sense. Dollhouse and psychonaut stuff. Me seeing the weird alien stuff. Me being possessed by a fallen angel? I’m a coyote? Or a sun from another galaxy? But I got borged? On top of all the other shite? It’s also like I somehow can’t comprehend or that I forget stuff.

    You know like your whole past I can’t remember anything of my human past lives or my lives anywhere else.

    My comment Is all over the place and your too busy to explain. So guess I should just keep my head down.

    Is it useful to like work with other people to remove stuff or is it script defined? So am I wasting money on that? Like Luna removed that reptile but did it just fuck off for a week and then the fucker is back because it’s not in my script to get it removed?

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        Clive
        December 2, 2019 @ 1:56 pm

        Hi Tommy, re ‘Clive cant understand what you mean with this comment’ – yea it’s not clear . .

        At some point in our past history we had a mixture of many types of intelligent animals (equivalent to us/humans ‘now’ in intelligence terms) as well as none intelligent/normal/dumb animals. At some point in our past maybe sometime in the late 18th century and or early 19th century all ‘intelligent’ interfaced to an animal of all types WHOM WEREN’T HUMAN were all converted/transformed INSTANTLY into humans i.e. before this time humans we’re in very small numbers mixed in with a lot of other intelligent species!!!

        However, if you remember the crabs as humans evidence Tommy (links on home page somewhere!!!) then this crabs to humans conversion implies that ‘SOME TYPE’ of transformation has been applied to all peoples/races/cultures that didn’t use a human animal to interface there population too. Basically within the EAAS part of the agenda is have everyone interfaced ‘soul’ identify as being human because they want everyone brainwashed into thinking that humans are automatically superior to all other animal forms so that the final update will then have humans in charge/considered above all other cultures whom are using a none human avatar!!!

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    Shalin
    November 25, 2019 @ 7:21 pm

    SUMMARY of Shalin’s Animal link efforts . . .

    Termites:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_124 e ditos sentencios espirituaes e moraes, etc. Vol. V., Lisboá, 1747.]

    Weevils:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_38
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_49, 50

    Were-Wolf:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_198

    Worm & bee:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_9 & 10

    Toad & Frog:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_132

    Inger:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_113, 114, 115
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_120, 121

    Swine:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_145
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_157
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_169
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_342 (french)

    Sow/Pig/Ass:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_16
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_140
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_142
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_147, 148, 149
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_154
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_160
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_335 (french
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_338 (french)
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_342 (french)
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_346 (french)
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_356 (french)

    Serpent:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_103, 104
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_121

    Malleolus gives the following formula for banning serpents and expelling them from human habitations, inculcating incidentally the iniquity of perjury and judicial injustice: “By virtue of this ban and conjuration I command you to depart from this house and cause it to be as hateful and intolerable to you, as the man, who knowingly bears false witness or pronounces an unjust sentence, is to God.” Sometimes the exorcism was in the form of a prayer, as, for example, in that used for the purgation and disinfection of springs and water-courses: “O Lord Jesus, thou who didst bless the river Jordan and wast baptized in it and hast purified and cleansed it to the end that it might be a healing element for the redemption from sin, bless, sanctify and purify this water, so that there may be left in it nothing noxious, nothing pestiferous or contagious, nothing pernicious, but that everything in it may be pure and immaculate, in order that we may use whatever[Pg 122] is created in it for our welfare and to thy glory, through our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.”

    Ass:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_140:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_151

    Mule:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_147

    OX:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_162
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_165
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_169
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_171
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_183

    Pig:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_109
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_137
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_140
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_142, 143, 144, 145
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_155, 156, 157
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_336 (french)
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_340 (french)
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_346 (french)
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_352 (french)
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_353 (french)
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_354 (french)

    Flies:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_28 & 29
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_110 & 111
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_125

    Grasshopper:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_107

    Heifers:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_149

    Locusts:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_3
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_65
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_93 & 94
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_107
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_136

    Mare:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_148 (near the end)
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_149 (also near the end)
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_162

    Mice & Moles:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_112
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_131
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_132 & 133
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_307

    Here is a more exhaustive list of references, condemnations and prosecutions of various animals. You can jump from animal to animal by search “===”. As well there were too many refernces to vermines so I did not compile them. Lots of instances of prosecutions pigs/sow/swine but I did manage to capture most of them.

    Beetles & Bears:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_30

    Bitch/dog?:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_149
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_344

    Bull:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_139
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_161
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_162
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_358

    Caterpillars:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_122

    Cock:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_10 & 11
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_12
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_162

    Cow:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_148
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_149 (multiple animals)
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_169
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_361

    Dog/Bitch:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_167
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_176, 177 & 178
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_313
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_360
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_344

    Bull:
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_358

    Sow:
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_356
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_346
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_338
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_335
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_140
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_142:

    Pig/Swine:
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_354
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_353
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_352
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_350
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_342
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_340
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_336
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_140

    Bull:
    More than three centuries later the same means were employed for curing murrain, which in the summer of 1796 had broken out at Beutelsbach in Würtemberg and carried off many head of cattle. By the advice of a French veterinary doctor, who was quartered there with[Pg 139] the army of General Moreau, the town bull was buried alive at the crossroads in the presence of several hundred persons. We are not informed whether this sacrifice proved to be a sufficiently “powerful medicine” to stay the epizoötic plague; the noteworthy fact is that the superstitious rite was prescribed and performed, not by an Indian magician or an African sorcerer, but by an official of the French republic.

    Locust:
    In the latter case one of the largest of the locusts was seized and tried and then put to death by being thrown into the water with anathemas on the whole species. A few years ago swarms of locusts devastated the region near Kallipolis in Turkey, and a petition was sent by the Christian population to the monks of Mount Athos begging them to bear in solemn procession through the fields the girdle of St. Basilius, in order to expel the insects. This request was granted, and as the locusts gradually disappeared, because there was little or nothing left for them to eat, the orthodox of the Greek Church from the bishop to the humblest laymen firmly believed or at least maintained that a[Pg 137] miracle had been wrought. Pious Mohammedans exorcise and ostracize locusts and other harmful insects by reading the Koran aloud in the ravaged fields, as was recently done at Denislue in Asia Minor with satisfactory results

    Cock:
    Osenbrüggen’s statement that the cock condemned to be burned at Bâle was personified as a heretic (Ketzer) and therefore sentenced to the stake, is a far-fetched and wholly fanciful explanation. As we have already seen, the unfortunate fowl, suspected of laying an egg in violation of its nature, was feared as an abnormal, inauspicious, and therefore[Pg 12] diabolic creature; the fatal cockatrice, which was supposed to issue from this egg when hatched, and the use which might be made of its contents for promoting intercourse with evil spirits, caused such a cock to be dreaded as a dangerous purveyor to His Satanic Majesty, but no member of the Kohlenberg Court ever thought of consigning Chanticleer to the flames as the peer of Wycliffe or of Huss in heresy.

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        Clive
        December 2, 2019 @ 1:12 pm

        Thanks for all of the animals as people being prosecuted links Shalin I’ve made a summary list!!!

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    Jessica Antunese
    November 28, 2019 @ 3:47 pm

    RE: “showing how the human acupuncture points/places not only also match up with some ley lines they also match up with various star systems too i.e. in the latter case aspects of the ‘heavens’ which will then allow the EAAS ‘universe’ to generate/use emissions from these star systems to mess with peoples subtle form and then through this the human body processes/functions!!!”

    Interesting info… all this reminded me of astrology in general and made me think about how it could work. And it reminded me mostly of the Human Design system which was channeled to a guy from Canada in the 80’s (this must be why it’s relatively little known).

    That system precisely mixes or combines I’Ching’s divinatory system, with astrology, with the (pertinent) Kabbalistic tree of life and with the Hindu chakra system (the latter 2 suggesting connotations with our interfacing… by the way, the meaning of name Kabbalah is literally “that which is received”).

    Each person’s Human Design Chart or BodyGraph (which according to the description translates to “a graphic illustration of the energetic flow within your system, a blueprint for how you operate and interact with the world”) is then defined according to the configuration of the stars and the ascendant at the birth time.

    Since each point on the Zodiac Astrological Wheel matches with one of the 64 I’Ching hexagrams (number which very interestingly corresponds to the number of all possible combinations that codons in DNA can assume (also 64)…), so according to each astrological position on our Natal Chart, we will have associated or activated in us several I’Ching hexagrams.

    It is therefore the hexagrams we have activated or associated with us, and the pairings they make (because each hexagram pair with another one, making 32 pairs (at least in human design)) that will define the kind of characteristics which, according to what was suggested, could very well “come down” to us here throughout the interfacing from the stars, and that will also dictate whether each of our 9 centers is defined or undefined (9 centers which have a direct correspondence with the Hindu traditional 7 chakras, with the detail that there are 2 more, one which they call Spleen and another called G center).

    According to what I read, (which was all encrypted……), the more undefined our ‘centers’ are (which is determined by the hexagrams we have or not active, or the gates as they call), the less consistent their energy flow is, and also the reliability of certain functions or aspects related to the center involved, and also the greater the pressure we feel when expressing their energy……. that is supposedly reflected in our dispositions and behaviors…

    Now they actually associate each of the 9 centers with all sorts of aspects of us and our functioning, including organs of our physical body… which actually suggests that each of these 9 centers is associated with the basic functions of our subtle form with direct correspondence with our functions in the physical body…. and I wonder how much such an indefiniteness of our centers would not be related to certain problems in our subtle form and their manifestation in our physical body?

    For example, I met a woman who besides being very impulsive to speak, had several problems that are associated with throat chakra unbalances (bad breath, frequent abscesses and few teeth), when I found her birth day, I made her Human Design Chart and found that out of the 11 hexagrams or gates related to throat/expression center, she had NO ONE active, making her throat center totally undefined…

    In my specific case, my G center (related to the sense of self) is also totally undefined, and I literally live incorporated…. and not knowing exactly by whom or how many?……

    I would not be surprised that, according to the ‘debilitations’ that people already have, the period between lives mafia, through the day of birth, configured the influences that enter through susceptible points of our interfacing and/or subtle form, precisely to make it easier for us to fuck even more (and all with the excuse of the evolution bullshit and the overcoming of what are termed “defects/imperfections”, towards an ideal defined by someone (probably some dictator)….. or perhaps also so that people can be molded toward something convenient… I would also not be surprised that they also interfered in the way we are interfaced, precisely so that the desired effects were more consistent (both for lack and excess…) (and in fact, the presence of undefined centers in the BodyGraph, which makes one’s own energy quite inaccessible, suggests precisely that)…

    (and i got Java scrip error again… and again…)

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        Clive
        November 29, 2019 @ 6:37 pm

        Jessica (+ REGULARS) . . Jessica, this is a very good ‘connected’ summary of different angles . . .

        I’ve checked ‘yet again’ the java script angles ‘AND’ yet again I cannot find anything obvious or even oblique . . . so, do what I do, which is to ‘write’ the comment separately i.e. NOT IN THE COMMENT BOX ITSELF but in word or wordpad etc and then once written then copy paste and ‘post it’ . . . ‘then’ if is doesn’t actually post/seem to post try again and if you’re still not sure send it to me by e-mail with the post URL/TITLE it’s to be posted on!!!!

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    Shalin
    November 30, 2019 @ 12:41 am

    Clive, related to Jessica’s comments regarding astrology/I-ching. Not so long ago I went to an astrologer who practices a different kind of astrology than typical vedic astrology. Instead of using gemstones to balance the planetary blockages/misalignments within my astrology chart (which is what typical vedic astrologers do) he gave me print outs of symbols and objects to place in the inside of my closet.

    Here are the images/symbols:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/1mf53jzcyl3np7y/astrology.jpeg

    I relay this in concern that the images/symbols too are some sort of backdoors into me, although lately I’ve been having lots of paranoid thoughts about everything being a backdoor into me – especially a gemstone I was given by an astrologer I saw long ago. The name of the stone is Hessonite and it is a type of garnet and used to strengthen the Rahu vedic planet, which actually is a fictitious/invisible planet in vedic astrology.

    Of course the Hessonite didnt do shit for me but wore it nonetheless until recently when I broke my chain while doing qigong.

    We also have various crystals/stones around the house and I’ve become obsessed with every tv show/film I watch trying to find clues as possible backdoors.

    After I sent you a list of films with tree/portal angles I haven’t been able to get them out of my mind. The *Being John Malkovich* film where a portal in his closet gains access to his nervous system keeps coming up in my mind. But that could be because my mind is connecting my physical ailments with anything that matches since my nervous system/kidneys/adrenals/liver are all shot to hell/blocked.

    I also find myself spending hours on google searching for films/tv shows/books that have some linkage to trees, portals & subtle beings being interfaced to them. There are many such things – lot of it in Japanese anime with tree like beings called Druids for instance but I haven’t found a direct match with Dante’s Hell. Also how trees connect to everything in a sacred grove but this may be related with neural-networks/dendrite structures and how they span out and connect every tree.

    In that light I wonder whether the remaining 350 kr/cp people are all connected via dendrite structures which when one is set free from the management the SIM quickly gains backdoor access to that individual through the neural-networks/dendrite structures connecting all of us.

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        Clive
        December 2, 2019 @ 12:30 pm

        As there are ‘backdoors’ into every aspect of EVERYTHING related to all aspects of ourselves then it’s not worth worrying about Shalin!!!

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    Jessica Antunes
    December 5, 2019 @ 12:41 pm

    RE “At some point in our past maybe sometime in the late 18th century and or early 19th century all ‘intelligent’ interfaced to an animal of all types WHOM WEREN’T HUMAN were all converted/transformed INSTANTLY into humans i.e. before this time humans we’re in very small numbers mixed in with a lot of other intelligent species!!!”

    Hum… in speaking of the 18th and 19th centuries as the time when this conversion would have taken place, are you speaking in a merely hypothetical way or are you in fact trying to give your best prediction?

    Actually, I had already suspected the mythological gods or deities scattered across diverse cultures around the world as having actually existed… And to be honest, when you referred to this transformation in your initial comment, I thought it was actually likely that it had occurred at a time when these deities possibly walked the earth thousands of years ago…

    I have evidence of being a Naga in India for example (an ugly thing of this kind, in a female version probably even uglier than the one in the image https://www.pngfans.com/middle-bd13e7ec20ce15ce-snake-human.html ), hence animals have distinguished themselves into intelligent and non-intelligent, because some had a brain size that allowed them to manifest greater intelligence and others not…

    It’s that the implications of having occurred such a conversion recently are VERY disconcerting… because everything in our historical records has to do with us as human beings… from archaeological records to the design of our most varied objects (that have evolved over time always in an adapted to the human form way), to what is implicit in historical descriptions and accounts, to paintings and works of art in general, etc… IN ADDITION to people seeing themselves as human beings when accessing their past lives (sometimes even because they have direct memories of it) or when encountering versions/entities from their own or others as incorporation of psychological/soul aspects from past lives…

    Therefore, having recently occurred such a transformation would imply that ALL these aspects have been CHANGED (what should have been hard monumental work!!!)… and which would imply that all past records we currently have are FALSE, including our memories and/or from aspects of us!!!

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        Clive
        December 8, 2019 @ 3:34 am

        The conversion from a majority of ‘intelligent’ interfaced animals to humans definitely happened sometime in the past, I just don’t know when specifically. Yea, the main problem is that it would require absolutely ‘EVERYTHING’ to be converted/translated not just the bodies but all clothes, tools etc. etc. used by different intelligent animals etc. etc. all pictures, loads of descriptions in books etc. etc. . . . plus all of our/everyone’s memories too . . . I only had one past life here (a Mayan one 2000+ years ago) that I realised that I was an animal (a big cat Jaguar).

        The next/current page I’m writing is very focused on the God’s/Deities which are representing ‘overseers/facilitators/helpers/guidance’ for earlier incarnated people of different cultures early incarnation efforts.

        Well, ‘intelligence’ if you think about it for an subtle form interfaced to any animal, a tree or a peanut depends entirely on the intelligence of the subtle form not what it’s interfacing too nor the size of anything’s brain either as brain power can be supplied from elsewhere as it were!!!! I don’t think I’ve been any snake type thing though!!!!

        You’d be amazed as to how much of archaeology and or ancient history is very carefully selected to avoid all of the things that don’t add up. For example when they converted all of the different intelligent dead animals bodies/remains/bones into human versions they forgot to adjust for size too – hahhahha, likely deliberately so we’ve skeletons of very small humans as well as seriously big humans too (imagine an intelligent giraffe or an elephant or even a very large horse skeleton being converted into a human)??

        This ‘past’ language page on it’s own makes a good case for the subtle/spirt form representing our real selves ‘just’ on the past language alone!!! Yea, the transformation effort is very comprehensive which makes me suspect that they let that one book through, although it’s contents in being so specific to animal activities (locusts or other insects eating grain) would have been difficult to convert to a human only perspective!!!!

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            Jessica Antunes
            December 12, 2019 @ 4:31 pm

            RE “Well, ‘intelligence’ if you think about it for an subtle form interfaced to any animal, a tree or a peanut depends entirely on the intelligence of the subtle form not what it’s interfacing too nor the size of anything’s brain either as brain power can be supplied from elsewhere as it were!!!!”

            What makes me think that the physical form brain capacity has something to do with the subtle being ability to express and manifest their real cognitive abilities and attributes is the acknowledgement of some very interesting phenomena… for example:

            When people have dementias, what happens is a degeneration of their physical brain structures, which in practice results in the loss of various cognitive functions (depending on the affected areas) and the consequent inability to partially or fully manifest the respective associated consciousness attributes……

            Thus, dementias (as well as brain injuries and brain birth defects) can make the subtle being intercfaced to the damaged physical body unable to, for example, access its own past memories of experiences lived in the present life, or to be unable to form new ones as it have new experiences (or instead, unable to access newly formed memories somewhere?)… These can also result in the inability of the consciousness conditioned by physical structures to reason coherently, or in the inability to reason at all… or, for example, to speak…

            Another example, I once had a cockatiel and a rooster as pets… and when they died, they as a subtle body (or at least as one of their subtle bodies) chose to always be with me wherever I went… the really bizarre thing here is that it was only when they died that they started talking just as anyone does… and even drawing (which apparently is the rooster hobby)…! But what’s interesting is that when they were alive they behaved like any dumb animal!

            However, since you must have your reasons for assuming that the “brain power can be supplied from elsewhere as it were”…… could my pet friends actually have made better use of their limited brain structures compared to their peers???

            There is actually something very interesting about the idea you convey related to the manifestation of intelligence in the physical, which is…. the assumption that subtle forms differ greatly in their intelligence levels….. so (since you refer somewhere to the existence of subtle races… and also… to the existence of some kind of subtle lice that reproduces…) I wonder if you would have any idea if subtle forms in their natural and real state (not as subtle avatars) would be distinguished from each other in an equivalent way to how the various physical species are distinguished here from each other?
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            Re “Yea, the transformation effort is very comprehensive which makes me suspect that they let that one book through, although it’s contents in being so specific to animal activities (locusts or other insects eating grain) would have been difficult to convert to a human only perspective!!!!”

            About that book “THE CRIMINAL PROSECUTION AND CAPITAL PUNISHMENT OF ANIMALS”, there is still the chance that it did not need to be converted… if its content is not actually representing criminal persecution efforts towards what at that time would be perceived as intelligent animals (as one might assume at the outset)…?

            Some excerpts from the book actually seem to reveal that, in light of the Christian mentality of that time, animals were seen as instruments which were eventually used by the devil to cause trouble, or even as incarnations of the devil himself, hence it was appropriate for them to have the animals condemned, because, in their view, what was being condemned was actually the devil himself and/or his demons…

            (or perhaps this, the explanation for animal prosecution, was already the result of the translation efforts (however… we must not forget that christians were really insane))…

            According to a Doctor angelicus “the lower animals are satellites of Satan instigated by the powers of hell and therefore proper to be cursed,”
            Chassenée refers to this opinion in the treatise already cited (I. § 75), and adds “the anathema then is not to be pronounced against the animals as such, but should be hurled inferentially (per modum conclusionis) at the devil, who makes use of irrational creatures to our detriment.”
            After these quotes, the narrative proceeds with the following: “This notion seems to have been generally accepted in the Middle Ages, and the fact that evil spirits are often mentioned in the Bible metaphorically or symbolically as animals and assumed to be incarnate in the adder, the asp, the basilisk, the dragon, the lion, the leviathan, the serpent, the scorpion, etc., was considered confirmatory of this view.” – page 55

            Other references that point to this reasoning:
            “the good Catholic becomes an efficient co-worker with God by maltreating brutes and thus aiding the Almighty in punishing the devils, of which they are the visible and bruisable forms. Whatever pain is inflicted is felt, not by the physical organism, but by the animated spirit. It is the embodied demon that really suffers, howling in the beaten dog and squealing in the butchered pig.” – page 83
            “In the question under discussion the argument is not subject to such limitations, but gathers testimony from all races and religions, showing that there is not a civilized nation or savage tribe on the face of the earth, which does not regard or has not regarded the lower animals as embodiments of evil spirits and sought to propitiate them. That “the devil is an ass” is a truth so palpable that it has passed into a proverb. Baal-zebub means fly-god; and the Christian Satan betrays his presence by the cloven foot of the goat or the solid hoof of the horse. In folk-lore, which is the débris of exploded mythologies adrift on the stream of popular tradition, cats, dogs, otters, apes, ravens, blackcocks, capercailzies, rabbits, hedgehogs, wolves, were-wolves, foxes, polecats, swine, serpents, toads, and countless varieties of insects, reptiles and vermin figure as incarnations and instruments of the devil” – page 85

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                Clive
                December 29, 2019 @ 1:39 am

                Everything is very, VERY mixed up here in insane ways Jessica, as the EAAS is about re-programming everyone, then we all also have versions of ourselves interfaced to pets too, hence then most pets seem more responsive and or intelligent than they actually ‘really’ are (or ‘should’ be).

    Shalin
    December 8, 2019 @ 9:03 pm

    Clive, you may also want to investigate vajrayana buddhism (unless you have already), which is Tibetan buddhism. It is filled with mysticism and deities of all kinds, many who serve as protector deities, obstacle removers, even healers and much much more.

    I attended many many Chod practices https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%B6d and Mountain Smoke Offerings https://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?title=Riwo_Sangch%C3%B6 but none of that did anything for me. I consulted with a Tibetan astrologer 2 years ago and he said that I may have offended/hurt the *earth lords* http://spiritgrooves.net/pdf/e-books/Tibetan-Earth-Lords.pdf and I needed to perform puja’s and rituals to appease them in order to be free of this health crisis. Of course I did all that yet did nothing for me. Interesting enough there was a lady that attended a Tibetan temple that I use to go to who became gravely ill. The head monk there invited 12 other monks and together they did a series of rituals to free her from her ailment/illness. Remarkably, within a week she started to recover and within a month she was completely healthy.

    Perhaps she was simulating someone who experienced similar in the original population and recovered because that is what is written in her scripts. I haven’t had that luck unfortunately…

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        Clive
        December 13, 2019 @ 12:46 pm

        Reply+Hacking++ Update . . . Yea, Shalin the Tibetans are ‘special/a one off’ Shalin, within the entire self propagating data system within which our MVOS is but one of many (although our specific EAAS MV version is a ‘deviant’ one off designed within a MV off to one side of the main data structure/setup within a separate and ‘extra’ side branch) . . . so, after 50 million ‘subtle’ years some specific culture within EVERY MV WITHIN THIS DATA SYSTEM finds themselves magically feeling compelled to design/build the next ‘underMV’ . . . now when I first became aware of this my reaction was WTF, there is no way that this would result in an ultra consistent/same design/repeating pattern outcomes . . . however, as the selected XXX culture work on the design it turns out that no matter what they design and or then implement as their own MV version/variation it’s always magically replaced on startup by a Tibetan version whom spend there time as permanent subtle beings whose ‘job/aim’ seem to be to make sure that everything within the data system AND each experiment works as it’s supposed to so that it all stays on track, that each MV is of the same/correct MV design and that the same repeating propagation structure continues as well as the correct/base MV design parameters all stay the same AND that each lower MV base population are always duplicates of the MV above AND each duplicated persons life by and large always unfolds based on there previous upper versions lives too.

        As this is what (in the normal MV’s) the ‘Tibetans’ specifically always do then they have a way, way, way better/more accurate idea of the entire nested, propagating, cascading MV focused data structure and also the base/repeated everywhere (except here) MV design than anyone else . . . despite that their diagrams/explanations are made to be exceptionally cryptic/impossible to understand in the correct context!!!

        However, it’s very odd that ‘here’ within the EAAS they have also been incarnated (i.e. they are having a physical life), which I’m very sure that they shouldn’t be or more accurately they never incarnate in the main/normal self propagating data system MV’s. Basically, our deranged off the rails side branch ‘shit’ MV version has only been allowed to be designed because it serves the purposes of the data system owners/administrators whom are of course way, way, way up over!!!!

        I’m actually 95+% sure that we’re in a very specifically designed and utterly deranged one off side MV that’s been put together to very specific specification (defined by those way up over) specifically as part of some gaining experience/expertise of hacking/combating hacking efforts project.

        For example as part of our hacking efforts we’ve kept coming across shit that is exceptionally difficult if not impossible to hack specifically because it’s targeting vulnerabilities within the processors and or data structure/data handling systems i.e. some shit uses these types of ‘advantages’ which are basically pretty standard data/computer system hacking/attack techniques. Some shit versions we’ve dealt for example have brute forced i.e. thrown/blitzed very specific parts/functions of the EAAS operating system with very specific data/instruction combinations such that it overloads these functions in very specific ways that then result in ‘unexpected’ outcomes which then make it exceptionally difficult to track these outcomes. We’ve also had another technique which I call ‘incompatible component’ errors when two processing/data components are ‘somehow’ made to be forced to interact in ways that are abnormal for the data structures/processing functions trying to handle them such that these efforts also then result in ‘unexpected’ outcomes (which can then be tweaked to be used in ways that result in useful outcomes to those that discover these) . . . in the past we’ve dealt with ‘shit’ sets every so often that uses sets of these types of ‘advantages’ however in the last few months rather then a few 100 or maybe even 10000’s of these at a time we’ve had millions (the last mega big set of these was 3 or 4 weeks ago now had about 45 million sets of these) to neutralise these those way up over in the data system have to redesign our MV hardware so that these no longer work . . . without causing us to spill our coffee etc. etc. while this is being done either!!!

        So, the above very much suggests to me that the designers/owners of the data system we are in are having external hackers/hacking problems!!!!

        Chats with those way, way, way up over ‘seem’ to confirm this!!!! Which to be honest makes what we are in even more of a piss take than I was already aware of i.e. those that designed our own ‘local’ off to one side MV actually designed it (very likely unknowingly) to ‘OTHERS’ very specific ‘SHIT’ specifications so that we end up living within such a shit system that it’s easy to have someone get suspicious (i.e. me) and particularly as the person I’m a copy of tracked and remotely monitored the EAAS as it was being designed/built and then also very likely knew it was going to be shit too!!!!

        We are still dealing with a big mess of ‘extras’ hidden/mixed in with peoples persona/behaviour and trauma data stores that have all been mixed together as one big amorphous cloud!!!! Last time I checked I was getting that all shit versions hidden/integrated within this have by and large been tamed/neutralised however they’re still working on trying to get access to the persona/personal behaviours/attitudes/temperaments/responses etc all mixed in with specific trauma/extremes in combinations and in ways to make it as difficult as possible to ‘release/alter’ these . . .

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    Shalin
    December 8, 2019 @ 9:13 pm

    I forgot to mention I also attended many Vajrakilaya puja’s to appease Vajrakilaya who is a protector/destroyer of all obstacles, similar to the role Ganesha plays in hinduism.

    https://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?title=Vajrakilaya

    Of course he destroyed none of that which was an obstacle for me. haha.

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    Tommy
    December 9, 2019 @ 3:13 am

    Clive I don’t wanna be a cunt but Hermes is not the god of healing. he’s not known for it. He’s the god who plays tricks. The Americans took the caduceus as a symbol of healing that’s the piss take. The caduceus comes from something Babylonian. It’s you’d prolly guess it a tree.

    The legit symbol of healing is the rod of Asclepius the son of his brother Apollo. Just one python on a stick Asclepius got killed because he revived people hades got huffy like I don’t get new folks in my realm. Zeus solved it like he solves everything with his fucking thunderbolt. Zeus is Hermes dad. Hermes is the messenger boy the trickster the liar he has a big portfolio boxing kids travelers animal husbandry running.

    but he mostly just goofs off is a jerk. Hermes is snarky jerky adhd hyperactive sugar addict likes to gamble likes his porn is bisexual as hell likes em young like his dad. Can be nice most of the times he’s a asshole. Has a fucked sense of humor. Dude had someone worship him for like 20 years he was running around with a statute of him he was very poor. He got angry flung the statue and I turned into money. He did help Odysseus with Circe because Odysseus was his kid.

    Someone squeeled he was trying to fuck a river nymph and he turned that guy into hawk so remember that’s also in the realm of possibilities.

    The legit god of healing is Apollo he also does prophecy archery music. Is known for his shitty dating life. Has the muses hanging around.

    Speaking about thievery and lying guess what I did since I was 9. Always the wrong shit my intentions are criminally inclined. Hermes comes in two forms young teen or old dude with beard.

    My shaman said I had problems with Hermes dad because I did something in his energy field. Like I told you I have no fucking clue what I did after the lsd. Shaman wouldn’t explain wtf I did. What would make more sense is that Hermes swiped your arm like you described I think the bozo who nicked your arm was Hermes.

    You did meet Athena right also you said she was kinda chubby and part of the rusty ray gang. I’d have a chat with her. Be honest she likes wisdom display what you found out. Hermes is for dodgy things. Kinda like Loki remember that Clive Hermes loves to play tricks on mortals and gods. don’t fall for his bullshit.

    What wouldn’t suprise me is if the guy who visited you ow I can do healings was Hermes himself. They have a funny sense of humor I had three 4 weird visits of people I thought I knew but some things didn’t add up deities sometimes come around as humans keep that in mind.

    Remember don’t ask to see them in their real form that’s what the mom of Dionysus got killed. Stay clear of the majority of the Greek deities because they have short tempers won’t answer questions and take offense very fast. I guess Athena would be safe Nyx would be scary but she’s the only one Zeus is afraid of so that might worth having a chat. Shaman said I had affinity with the underworld. Which is weird because I don’t like death or earthy cavernous things. Underworld is hades his realm only one who have access to that are Hermes Hades Persephone Hecate Nyx. Well and ereshkigal. As far as I know I’m persona non grata with all Greek deities they don’t like me.

    I don’t wanna be whiny because your super busy but I asked you this already a dozen times Clive I need you to check what in the flying fuck happened with me because i can’t make sense of it.

    Also check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ningishzida there is your caduceus since we are going back to Babylonian watch out for Enki and Enlil and his mates. Those are your shyster Elohims. Happy hunting mate

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        Clive
        December 18, 2019 @ 4:26 pm

        Hi, Tommy(+update of sorts), I’ve had to think quite a bit about your comment before I ‘maybe’ managed to figure it out!!!

        The ‘Hermes’ sighting incident happened 20+ years ago around the time the internet just got started so the ‘God’s information likely wouldn’t be that comprehensive nor maybe accurate . . . so, a few things . . .

        On checking my notes on potential past life possibilities I’ve found I’d written details of Asclepius, which then has me remembering that I’d become suspicious about the Hermes line and done some checking likely a few years later!!! Also, the guy seeing/describing me as ‘Hermes’ was doing this with a look of astonishment/WTF on his face, which implied that he wasn’t making it up and that then maybe in a sense it was being channeled through him!!!! Which has ‘misdirected’ me somewhat . . .

        The ‘Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell’ series is likely representing a sort of generic shit ‘template’ of pre-defined FU possibilities used to cause as many problems as possible specifically between very competent subtle forms (aka decent magic focused people as well as ‘Gods’ ) . . . i.e. I suspect that both he AND myself were being ‘messed with/used’ . . . also, likely 4/5 years after this I ended up spending some time talking to this guy in depth and he unbelievably spent all of his time talking about all of the people/circumstances he’d covertly manipulated and or actually set up resulting in him causing all of them very serious problems . . . In other words, like you write, it DOES seems to me that he’s a very, very good candidate for ‘The Trickster’!!!

        You then bizarrely ask a question “what in the flying fuck happened with me” that you/we already know the answer to . . . i.e. dollhouse imprints that could have you doing all sorts of shit and then we’ve the ‘Psychonaut’ sites psychedelic/drug shit too . . . on the other hand many people from the Dollhouse background also seem to then end up working on the EAAS . . . and from your knowledge of God’s you’d be a very likely candidate to have been working on the EAAS God’s interactions Tommy!!!! Which I’m getting is correct!!!!

        At the same time I get your comment I get an e-mail from a Michel B whose a Native American which if you remember I wrote a comment somewhere recentlyish about the NA and the Gypsies being two populations of the very same ‘subtle’ competent people being put into circumstances to FO them all!!!!

        I being reminded of the Gypsy/Native American FU efforts I then realised that they’ll also have predefined shit networks that will have been working full time (for centuries) making things as difficult as possible for them all . . . AND I then remembered that many NA tribes have a totem pole i.e. a TREE symbol and on checking YES this is also symbolically representing yet another tree of life/knowledge/subtle interfacing backdoor AND that these specific FU networks have actually also been ‘converted/adapted’ into a more sophisticated form to be used to mess/FO the remaining core key people the EAAS is still trying to lock down . . .

        So, thanks Tommy and Michel B for the well timed ‘pointers’ as I needed these to figure out some of the origins/details of the remaining amorphous cloud shit, still focused on maintaining worrying key people to target it, which I did about 4/5 days ago now . . . unfortunately it’s all ‘still in progress’ as the ‘cloud’ shit is exceptionally competent and still difficult to pin down!!!!

        ALSO: Overall recently myself and a few others I know are having some aspect of past events and or specific experiences investigated (very likely for there knock on accumulated effects on other issues). So, in the last 2/3 days I’ve been in at least two sets of distant past things, another has found themselves put back into a loss/grief incident from decades ago . . . I suspect that this will only be happening for those people whose more serious shit sets have been reduced somewhat such that they are in more background effects!!!!

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        I’ve also got another page in a decentish state, such that I’ll likely post it here within a few days that shows how all of the different types/categories of early God’s ‘interests/jobs’ are all focused on facilitating the early subtle population that find themselves interfaced to an alien physical animal form to live within an alien world/environment with respect to EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF EARTH LIFE/LIVING ON A PLANET that would be very, very, very different and hence then be exceptionally difficult for the first incarnated subtle forms to adapt too i.e. they’d need support for the first 2/3 incarnations/physical live’s to adapt to all the physical life circumstances differences . . . and particularly to every facet of any/all earth experience that would be different to how they’ve habitually lived as subtle being in the subtle environment for literally millions of years i.e. they’d all have automatic embedded habitual subtle experiences that are exceptionally different to anything/everything they’d find in the physical . . .

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    Megan
    December 14, 2019 @ 11:58 pm

    Thanks for the update Clive. I’ve been wondering what has been going on this last month or so. Things have been strange. Things at work have been awful, and the last paragraph of your comment certainly explains why. I’ve been dealing with a lot of personality/temperament/attitude/head/mental issues, more so at work than anywhere else. There was an incident at work a couple weeks ago that made me feel awful, and the whole incident bugged me for a week until I realized that the events that happened where specifically designed to ‘punish’ me. These last couple of weeks, it feels like things have been becoming more confining and controlling. To give an example, within the last two weeks they have implemented a new Lean manufacturing auditing system where the employees of the same department audit each other to note problems and come up with solutions. It is supposed to be about the process, not the person, and I was the first one to volunteer (unless that was misunderstood) and since then my training has been inconsistent and I have been constantly farmed out to other departments. Yet the one time I was audited, and this was by another woman in my department with my supervisor over-shadowing, it felt more like an interrogation than an audit. I felt intimidated and completely jumbled mentally. I was asked a lot of questions and couldn’t answer clearly. In the end, I felt humiliated, and like I made a huge fool of myself. After each audit, notes for improvement are written on a white board where they are reviewed by the group and implemented, and the following day when we all reviewed what was noted from my audit, my supervisor made some off-handed comment about it ‘not being painful,’ when I still felt humiliated and angry. The second time I’ve done an audit my supervisor overlooked but didn’t say much of anything. I was auditing an area I had no experience in and again I felt inadequate and intimidated and my mind was just blank. My supervisor helped a little but didn’t say much, and at the end of the audit I made a comment about how beautiful my co-worker’s work was which was probably inappropriate but the whole situation was weird. Again, the next day reviewing the findings of the audit, my supervisor at the end going over what was expected from these interactions, and he commented on how saying how someone’s work is ‘pretty’ does not lead to anything helpful or valuable to the customer. Yet again, I felt like I had been indirectly singled out, or maybe I’m just being bitter, petty and paranoid.

    Thinking on all of this reminded me of the confrontation I had with the machine operator at my old job. A co-worker, who I thought I could trust and who I had vented to out of frustration, told this machine operator that I said she was mean (which according to my memories is accurate,) and the machine operator came back with, “…You think you are a victim.” Which hit me hard. It wasn’t until reading this most recent page that I even thought to look up the etymology for the word ‘victim’ and I get,

    “late 15c., “living creature killed and offered as a sacrifice to a deity or supernatural power, or in the performance of a religious rite;” from Latin victima “sacrificial animal; person or animal killed as a sacrifice,” a word of uncertain origin. Perhaps related to vicis “turn, occasion” (as in vicarious), if the notion is an “exchange” with the gods. Perhaps distantly connected to Old English wig “idol,” Gothic weihs “holy,” German weihen “consecrate” (compare Weihnachten “Christmas”) on notion of “a consecrated animal.”
    Sense of “person who is hurt, tortured, or killed by another” is recorded from 1650s; meaning “person oppressed by some power or situation, person ruined or greatly injured or made to suffer in the pursuit of an object, or for the gratification of a passion or infatuation, or from disease or disaster” is from 1718. Weaker sense of “person taken advantage of, one who is cheated or duped” is recorded from 1781.”

    Funny enough, the word seemed accurate for what has been going on because it seems like my very existence belongs to some god or other being, and they are pissed off with me.

    “We are still dealing with a big mess of ‘extras’ hidden/mixed in with peoples persona/behaviour and trauma data stores that have all been mixed together as one big amorphous cloud!!!!”

    Weekends are my ‘Going Within, No People’ time, and this morning when I woke up, I could feel and see myself standing before this giant cloud like thing in the back of my mind. At first I thought it was a ghost, kind of like Casper, but it didn’t seem to have an individual intelligence. Needless to say, today has been a very interesting day so far. Thanks again for the update.

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    Megan
    December 26, 2019 @ 3:11 am

    The word anime in Japan according to etymology online,

    “c. 1985, Japanese for “animation,” a word that seems to have arisen in Japan in the 1970s, apparently based on French animé “animated, lively, roused,” from the same Latin source as English animate (adj.). Probably taken into Japanese from a phrase such as dessin animé “cartoon,” literally “animated design,” with the adjective abstracted or mistaken, due to its position, as a noun. “

    Thinking on this reminded me of the anime Castle in the Sky by Hayao Miyazaki. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_in_the_Sky

    Laputa, the floating city in the sky, was abandoned by its inhabitants for the earth between 600-700 years ago, and was protected by a storm with winds that blew in two opposing directions. It flourished with plant life and animals and at the heart of the city was a giant tree as well as a giant crystal that housed and controlled the city’s advanced technology. The weapons of mass destruction were said to be the cause of the fire that rained down on Sodom and Gomorrah from Heaven.

    Although the article says that the movie has references to other things, I remember talking to a friend of mine who is a huge anime buff, he said the movie was a reference to the legend of Atlantis, though I don’t know where he got his information from.

    Another tree reference I thought of while writing this was the maypole. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maypole#Malta

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    Clive
    December 30, 2019 @ 4:51 pm

    UPDATED FOCUS VERSION: It’s using system vulnerabilities (brute forcing etc) to be able to do impossible things/function in impossible ways . . .

    ” . . . anything acting as a gate keeper or ‘guardian’, and or has details of and or is actively using absolutely any base MVOS system defects/vulnerabilities specifically in ways to give itself ‘advantages/super powers/super functioning abilities’ and or is otherwise limiting, controlling and or moderating awareness of, understanding of and or is otherwise blocking full access to absolutely any facet of ITSELF/IT’S FUNCTIONING and or is contributing to keeping hidden/obscured it’s selection/choice of and or means of deployment of any trt’s and or trt combinations and particularly any representing any type and or combinations of trauma, fears, stress, tension, insecurity and or anxiety or absolutely any ‘behaviour, reaction/action and or automatic response and or trigger’ and or absolutely anything else that has already been and or could or would be used to manipulate/make myself/me/us/anyone automatically react and or respond/behave in certain very specific ways, under very specific conditions and particularly as part of achieving very specific immediate and or short or long terms outcomes/goals and particularly with respect to controlling, conditioning and or modifying the overt and or subliminal responses and or behaviours of myself and or others and particularly anyone reading/working with this/the above . . . “

    ————————————————————————

    Part of a hacking update from Tom giving you some idea of how sophisticated the current shit version actually is . . .

    ” . . . I do the focus five more times and there’s nothing at first . . . then very gradually, it begins to feel as if the structure of reality is somehow ‘crystalline’ . . . then I engage with what feels like a crystal maze which seems to exist only for a hundredth or a thousandth of a second, and then disappear again, and this crystal maze seems to be made OUT of specific people, so that each person is sort of representing or part of a specific local network of tunnels, which then leads into other tunnels. It feels as if it could be their ‘trt’s / pre-defined persona behaviours / interactions’ which together, make up this maze.

    Ahhh, in writing that it feels ‘clearer’ somehow, I was wondering how a person can be / represent tunnels in a maze, but a pre-defined behaviour takes someone from one place to another, and a pre-defined interaction takes two or more people from one place to another, and since it’s all PRE-DEFINED, then it’s like a defined ‘tunnel’ taking one or more people from A to B or C to Z. So it feels as if people’s trauma and pre-defined persona behaviours and interactions are stored as part of this crystal maze, which also feels as if it could be advantaged / it definitely seems to be off the radar most of the time, and it’s like it then appears again temporarily / does what it needs to / adjusts people, and then disappears again.

    As I continue with the recursive focuses, it feels like there are other variations of this ultra-secure, locked down “safe” component behind the scenes, which are keeping other macros / components off the radar.

    Now it feels like there are many more of them – I see these “safes” all over the place on my HUD [Tom has an internal ‘Heads Up Display’ that’s used to present ‘VERY’ relevant details/important information (in a ‘visual/understandable/real time’ context) from a ‘hacking/hackers’ perspective]. But it feels like they’re not macros now, but SUB-FUNCTIONS of other, more dominant macros, like something added in to modify or adjust the functioning of specific macros under specific TXYZ conditions. This could fit with what I felt in relation to the “safe” component, that it’s working to keep the macro / macro sub-function as hidden as possible, and that the macro / macro sub-function could also be temporary. Again this feels like there could be something in the actual macro code – either that, or there definitely seems to be a lot of macro shit behind the scenes in the EAAS.

    As I feel in more, I begin to experience these macro sub-functions in a more “interconnected” way, and now it feels like they’re all part of a wider network of macro code, or it feels like when these macro sub-functions are in the “safes”, they’re not strictly “part of the macro code”, but dormant, potential parts of it / things which could adjust it at some point in the future, and manoeuvre its functioning towards SNV objectives.

    I begin to experience these (often hidden / dormant) macro sub-functions as integrated STRATEGICALLY into the wider macro code, then as a distributed, fractionated and ultra-compressed and locked down network . . . it’s like a piggybacking network which has been designed with a deep understanding of how the overall macro code works, and how to compromise it / alter it in imperceptible ways with the least amount of adjustments / alterations. So this part “deep understanding of how the macro code works” makes me think about designs and VR testing of this shit, and that maybe they would have had to set up temporary MV’s or ‘similar’ to test out how to adjust the macro code the way they wanted . . . “

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    Megan
    December 31, 2019 @ 3:12 am

    Notes from the old focus from this morning.

    ‘I think I’m becoming shrewder in a way. I feel a pressure in my heart center and I got the impression that I tried to lock my heart away not out of pain/heartbreak/betrayal, but for some other reason. Energetic deficiency? Am I not taking in a critical energy that is leading me to eat more/different things to make up for it?’

    Trying this new focus throughout the day I don’t necessarily get anything, but I get the impression that what is being targeted is ultra, super fine. I pulled something in my lower back shoveling snow today, and while it hurts, I think it did more ‘good’ because it felt like something emotionally/energetically broke lose, and while I was laying on the floor with an ice pack on my back I felt into the pain for a bit and ‘saw’ someone ‘working’ on my lower back. I’ve been kind of sensitive for the rest of the day since then, but sitting here just kind of feeling that I can kind of feel my own mental resistance towards it kind of a ‘stand your ground or die trying’ thing. This makes me realize that I never really give or gave a lot of things that I have tried or done in life a chance, that I have been more results or outcomes oriented than anything. Thinking on this the thought comes up, ‘I wanted to help, and I wanted what I could do to help. But I couldn’t do what I wanted and help the way I wanted to. I had to do it their way or not at all.’

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        Clive
        January 3, 2020 @ 12:56 pm

        Hi Megan/Everyone . . . I’m in obvious symptoms related to issue explorations which for myself are particularly focused on embedded background stress/trauma type release efforts. Basically we seem to be ‘cracking’ at least some peoples ‘locked down/maintained’ shit/trauma states, which I’m pretty sure is what is going on with you Megan based on your descriptions in this and your previous comment . . . I’m pretty sure that we have no more independent ‘maintain’ shit states versions/backup stores, but we do seem to have shit trying to block/present/make it difficult to access the final personal/persona data store which is what defines/holds detrimental ‘states, behaviours, attitudes and responses’!!!!

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    Shalin
    January 1, 2020 @ 3:43 am

    Clive, so I’ve been doing the focus a few times today despite feeling blocked.

    After doing my latest session, I had this impression that my severe imbalance(s) may be because of the extreme fear/worry/fright/anxiety trauma episodes I’ve repeatedly had in my adult life i.e. related to HIV/STDs, losing money, fears of rejections in romantic relationships etc.

    In the 5 element Chinese Medicine imbalance cycle – the Liver & Spleen/Stomach have a feedback relationship whereby the Wood element (Liver/GallBladder) controls the Earth element (Spleen/Stomach).

    Here is a chart:

    http://www.cmaconweb.org/articles/2018/1/3/images/ChinMedCult_2018_1_3_127_249577_f8.jpg

    I got this impression that all my fear/worry traumas have substantially weakened my Earth Element (Spleen/Stomach) to such an extent that the normal amount of Wood energy that is spent on controlling the Earth Element no longer needs to be spent on the Spleen/Stomach because they are weak. The end result being then there is excess energy stuck/congested /blocked in the Wood element (Liver/Gallbladder).

    So I’m thinking that those fear traumas are being maintained such that the Earth element (sp/st) remain in the weakened state thus perpetually congesting/blocking the Wood element (Liver/Gallbladder).

    I know I’m usually blocked from seeing anything with the focuses but that is the impression I got. I know its nothing to do with the crazy brute force shit but just relaying over what I got.

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        Clive
        January 3, 2020 @ 1:06 pm

        Hi Shalin/Everyone spleen/stomach i.e. ‘abdomen/gut’ areas represent ‘feelings’ hence then you’ve had your subtle feelings/states locked down/making it difficult for you to ‘be in touch with yourself’!!!!

        lso, some of the recent shit sets were directly related to the myths of different cultures, here’s part of a hacking update from Tom (we’ve got rid of these now) . . .

        ” . . . I do the focus ten more times and feel connections to something which is sticky, like long strands of mucus, and become aware of floating nets which seem to fade in and out of reality. Then I have vague, confusing impressions of something with scales “birthing” something / an orifice / various other weird things and then a sort of scaly winged creature on a throne.

        Next I see distributed jewels, and then it’s like a net appears, which the jewels are part of, and it feels like Indra’s net (Hindu god). I see beams of light appearing / being shone from random points in space, then see a white light, like a sun, with what look like remote controls floating outside it, which seem to be able to produce the light.

        I engage with a giant ball of dung rolling through space, which seems to be getting larger as it rolls, and then see dung beetles pushing it – it feels like this represents ‘shit’ / collecting more shit as time goes on, maybe by putting people in trauma and then collecting those trt’s and adding them to the other pre-existing ones. It feels like I’m on drugs / some kind of acid trip or dreaming, when I ‘see’ things at the moment.

        I see carpet around the edge of my HUD, crackling with static electricity, and sometimes bolts of this shoot into space and do something. It feels like there’s something behind / under the carpet which is doing this. Next I see many weird geometric shapes forming. These seem to be made of numbers. A short time later, I continue doing the focus and see what feels like a meteorite. Hacking is very weird this morning. I have no clue about anything I’ve connected to and it feels like I’m on drugs / just seeing random images . . .

        then later . . .

        . . . i do the focus 5 times. see many copies of me arranged around me in a self-adjusting mandala formation. being used to pass shit into me. lightning storm going on between all the different copies of me / exchanging information, passing in influences in fractionated ways. then i see them fold back into me like a concertina, then fold out from me again temporarily, are used to apply some shit and then fold back into me again / like each time, they only exist momentarily / for a split second . . . “

        In that we seem to have maybe an Egyptian scarab Beetle (which is associated with a specific Egyptian God) as well as a Hindu God mentioned and then later we have Mandala’s i.e. likely Buddhist, then I do some scans for shit that was converted into tech/systems forms of these of any other migrated to another MV’s ‘advanced’ cultures and or of people from these ‘migrated’ cultures that they copied and pasted to have them ‘design’ shit using there own cultures approaches . . . which gets hits!!!!

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    Annabelle
    January 4, 2020 @ 2:40 am

    I have always been very close to trees and feel I need to take care of them. The trees in my yard are doing better than most trees in the city, and I have had arborists ask me what am I doing that they are so healthy? During my habitat restoration work, I felt bad for trees that were infested with carpenter ants, and did what I could to help get rid of the ants. I also recall being on tours in parks, etc. where the guides suggested we try to see the faces in the trees.
    I see many people and companies cutting down trees now and wonder what is going on. Some say the trees are dying but others say people just think the trees are in the way. I also like to look for very old trees – 100-200 years old – and have a tremendous respect for them (unfortunately with the reset – most of them are gone or intentionally cut down to hide history).
    In other areas I am bombarded with constant immediate bizarre emergencies, house issues, medical, family issues and car issues. Four family members are extremely ill al of a sudden with no explanation for their decline in health.
    I often said I don’t let much bother me, but I feel I have met my match. I volunteer at a charity and help a very senior little old lady. She is eternally picky, negative and criticizes everything I do, and it rewinds in my head all day and drives me crazy. I
    have worked with her for one year and finally told myself I need to reject all of her attempts to psychologically manipulate me.

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    Shalin
    January 4, 2020 @ 2:44 am

    Clive, thanks for the update & Tom’s feedback. Much appreciated.

    So I take it when you say *gut/abdominal* area it also includes the liver/gallbladder and all organs of the abdomen. The main problem appears to be with whatever locked feelings are contributing to the blockages/congestion in the liver/gallbladder – at least it appears that way to me… but there could be more involved like a complex web of locks from all the feelings/emotional traumas I’ve experienced.

    My heart seems to be involved in some way as well and likely related to the locks imposed on it from all the heart-ache/break I’ve experienced.

    I also have tremendous kidney/adrenal pain/heat (right side), pelvic tenderness/pain/congestion & significant deterioration in breathing/lungs but that could be because of the domino effect from all the other blocks/imbalances (liver/gallbladder I suspect) but could be due to its own set of locks from grief/sadness related traumas/feelings (I’ve had so many).

    Its all one big cluster-f$k in my body.

    I notice from time to time that *random* some combination of Chinese herbs tend to move my liver/gallbladder qi/energy to give me a tiny bit of relief in breathing but it is very brief and never lasts – it usually reverts within hours or over night.

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    Megan
    January 5, 2020 @ 7:17 am

    Re: Clive “Hi Megan/Everyone . . . I’m in obvious symptoms related to issue explorations which for myself are”

    1-4-2020
    That makes sense and explains a lot. Whenever I am at work, I always feel like I’m on a weird form of autopilot. I feel like I have blinders of some sort on my attention/awareness/intellect, kind of a ‘I don’t give a fuck anymore, just do the work, get it done, go home and leave me alone.’ I do the actions but I notice myself making a lot of, ‘commonsense, I should know better than to do this errors,’ and I feel ashamed, and silently judged/mocked/criticized by those who are watching or are around me. My head feels like it is full of cotton or static and like it is floating/swimming in thick sludge or soup. Thing is, I never experience this when I am working independently or am in charge of the process, but here at my ‘new’ job I am not either of these, and when I am at work I feel this ‘stay away from me, go away, leave me alone’ program/feeling looping in the background. I know part of this is because I have nothing in common with the others I work with but I’ve always kind of been that way. Stuck in certain ways, obsessed with certain things, never really branching out or trying new things. This has changed significantly over the years and I keep pushing and challenging myself to branch out, but sometimes I wonder/feel if I’m not doing it in the right way.

    Also, there has been some things that have been happening for a while that I can’t explain. The first is whenever I am writing something I have a habit to insert wrong letters when writing out words at random. For example, I went to a yoga class today and writing out a check for a punch card, I put ‘Youga Class’ in the memo field instead of yoga. I am not dyslexic and at first I thought it was I was because sometimes I happen to think faster than I write and will start writing the word I am thinking of at that moment instead of the word I intended to write. Second, I notice that I am not keeping track of conversations or getting lost confused about the topic the other person is discussing. For example, after yoga class today I stopped at a coffee shop on the same block where I also happened to meet up with one of the students from the class who was a minister who deals with grief, loss, death, sickness, etc. We were talking about the problems he was having with his neck from a car accident as a child and how he received acupuncture to treat it. He then went on to talk about all the negativity he receives from people and I thought he was talking about receiving negativity from people because he did acupuncture, not because he dealt with peoples’ negativity on a regular basis and it caused hypertension in his neck.

    Even when writing all of this I get this ‘who gives a fuck’ feeling that doesn’t see this as a problem or even wants to fix it.

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        Clive
        January 5, 2020 @ 6:12 pm

        NEW FOCUS/SCAN . . .

        Well we ‘seem’ to have got rid of the last FU/sabotaging/maintaining ‘SHIT’ set which means that we’ve now access to personal data stores!!! However, it seems as if we have manipulative ‘shit’ that actually been designed into the personal data within the personal data stores themselves to make accessing and more so releasing personal trauma/trt’s i.e. personal shit more difficult than usual . . . so, can everyone use the scan/focus below, which will help us get a handle on these sabotages!!!!

        LATE AFTERNOON SCAN/FOCUS

        Try this new/different focus/scan version:

        ” . . . I connect to anything that is coveting/keeping hidden/hiding and or preventing normal access to release my trt’s/trauma and or persona/behaviours/attitudes and or that is acting as a gate keeper or ‘guardian’, to any aspect of myself and or anyone else/any others preventing myself from openly accessing persona data and any other/all aspects of the data that is defining myself, my persona and or any of my responses/reactions/attitudes and or behaviours and or anything that has details of and or is actively using absolutely any base MVOS system defects/vulnerabilities specifically in ways to give itself ‘advantages/super powers/super functioning abilities’ and or is otherwise limiting, controlling and or moderating my/our/anyone awareness of, understanding of and or is otherwise blocking full access to absolutely any facet of myself/me/my persona data and or is in the slightest contributing to blocking/making difficult the release of any of my persona data including any trt’s and or trt/trauma and or anything else of myself and or any combinations of these and particularly anything that has been/is now and or could in the future be used to control any of my internal and or subliminal and or external behaviours/reactions/actions/responses and or that could initiate any type of trigger and or anything that could or would directly or indirectly contribute to manipulate/manage/make myself/me/us/anyone automatically react and or respond/behave in certain very specific ways, and or under very specific conditions and particularly as part of achieving very specific immediate and or short or long terms outcomes/goals and particularly with respect to controlling, conditioning and or modifying the overt and or subliminal responses and or behaviours of myself and or others and particularly anyone reading/working with this/the above . . . “

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    Shalin
    January 6, 2020 @ 4:18 am

    Clive – So I’ve done the new scan/focus about 8 times today.

    As usual, I’m not getting much. I know you guys are using some sort of AI to monitor us as we do focuses so not sure if any of it was helpful. I don’t really think I got anything but various random thoughts popped in/out of mind. But nothing that I could pinpoint.

    I will keep trying though.

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        Clive
        January 7, 2020 @ 12:23 pm

        Hi Shalin/Everyone, yes it’s taking ages and AGES to get this ‘personal data’ focused shit dealt with!!!!

        FYI/INTEREST: I recently found someone pointing out anomalies relating to the subtle form as enthusiastically as myself from certain angles. He’s obviously simulating a subtle form photographer as he’s gazillions of subtle ‘ORB’ photographs on one of his web sites called ORBPRO.
        However, as he’s then figured out that these relate to the subtle form (rather than the physical human/avatar/remote vehicle form) then he’s compiled page after page of science anomalies related to the human animal avatar forms head/thinking abilities as well as memory storage and functioning too which is called HeadTruth.

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            Olivia
            January 7, 2020 @ 5:49 pm

            Hi Clive, thanks for the post & updated focus. Apart from still being exhausted, I’ve had a better month – not talking about much to anyone seems to keep sabotages slightly at bay. I tried the 2nd focus (updated one) three times yesterday. Difficult to do through the headaches and dizziness (am also doing my annual jan detox even though I don’t eat badly I’m general or drink much (compared to everyone else I know). Had to lie down immediately after eating lunch. I only managed to see vaguely through the fog, the first paragraph up to ‘guardian’. Initially there were a lot of feelings of tightness in my stomach, and lots of claws /witch hands, some sort of blood pact made on my abdomen (but my abdomen seemed to represent a “general to all people pact” rather than just mine.

            Then there seemed to be some sort of ethereal sticky web, but made of a flexible bubble type material that can shrink or expand. Each flat bubble seems to contain information. A bit like bubble wrap I guess, with each bubble containing information that is intended to make things difficult in some way. Like triggers I suppose now that I think about it a bit more.

            This web/flat bubble wrap is also invisible and ultra fine & 3D flat (can’t explain it any other way, perhaps like tiny SD cards?) It can feel like it’s tightly wrapped like “vacuum packed” but then when I notice that it’s “stuck around me tightly”, it moves away further back from me. It also moves quickly and dynamically in unpredictable ways. Very bizarre.

            Hardly slept last night, even with a sleeping tablet. Struggled to fall asleep then woken up 4 hours later. Could not get a handle on the thoughts/still my mind. It seems to be doing its “own thing” in the background. So either extreme exhaustion, sleeping for far too long, or not enough & then zero energy/patience. A lot still linked to my menstrual cycle too. Will try this focus again tomorrow.

            PS: I get this message almost every time I post a reply Javascript support must be enabled to leave comments.
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            When I click on links to comments, I’m always taken to the top of the page and have to scroll through everything to find it (though usually the most recent comments are on the bottom anyway), but if there are a number of new comments, I don’t get to them without starting at the beginning of the page (so takes a lot of time/feels like time wasting or diversion tactics – sometimes stops me from reading properly or up to date because I get too tired).

            PPS: I get A LOT of orbs in my photos. Very often. I’ve researched it briefly myself, but never come across the pages you’ve linked in, so thanks for those. I just got the sense they were subtle forms, so googled something to that effect. Thanks again for your hard work. If it’s difficult for us, I can imagine the shit you must get! Hahaha.

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                Clive
                January 7, 2020 @ 6:23 pm

                Hi Olivia, Mmmm, well from the above it’s likely (it ‘feels’ like this too) that your original form was a leader and that this pact/promise type of thing directly involved while also tying you/making you beholden to a group and or community of people . . . hence then as a type of spell and or subtle network facilitated binding ‘pact/promise’ to SPECIFIC people it would then span these peoples personal/persona data stores too . . . I’m not surprised it’s taken getting rid of all of the covering/distracting shit before this could be picked apart/properly tracked and understood before this!!! Hopefully it can be understood enough to be tamed/fully dealt with now!!!!

                RE site java script errors, you likely have a browser web page addon/popup blocker/disable ad type ‘thing’ that is also specifically disabling javascript . . . check these types of browser addon’s and disable for this site!!!!

    Olivia
    January 12, 2020 @ 10:17 am

    Hi Clive, so I’ve done the focus 4 more times. After the initial information re my last comment, tuning in was almost impossible this time. I could see, hear, feel, sense, know there was something coming…& then it was as if I was enveloped in a thick dense cloud which blocked out clear sight/sound/senses etc into what was going on. MASSIVE throbbing headache, eyes aching too. Had to stop.

    Dreams have been bizarre and in relation to my information being guarded / protected but I can’t remember them well, but I’m “busy” at night. I do not sleep without sleep aids/meds.

    Extreme irritability & feeling overwhelmed. I can feel all sorts of things going on to waste my time, exhaust me, keep me wired & ultra busy. I find this is often the case after I do any hacking. I feel compelled to do things / OTT planning for an upcoming trip/staying up late looking on the iPad – when id rather be meditating or reading…It’s also why I don’t do focuses as often as I’d like.

    Did another on 10/1/19 eve.
    I was suspended in a tight triangle box. I was on my own inside this tight insulated triangular “box”. It was surrounded by some sort of “sound proofing / dense foam”, & suspended by a strong thread; something above me, me in the middle and “earth or something similar” below. All these streams of white light carrying information were coming into this triangle box/me.

    Then I fell into this weird dream disturbed sleep I mention above: it felt as if I was a “fly on the wall” I guess, or “viewing in” (?) on “something” I shouldn’t be seeing.

    I’m on my January detox still and attended a hot yoga class yesterday to help me sweat. I definitely wasn’t connected to by body after 45 mins in. Very surreal. I came home &
    I then really started noticing/feeling weird shit going on in the “background” of my own thoughts. It’s as if I have a “hard drive” on standby mode with shit happening (updates/“virus checks”/push feeds (like when emails come into your inbox, they’re “pushed”. So you can opt for auto push or manual. This “stuff” is auto “pushing”). It’s as if I actually have a disc and disc drive in, and at the back of, my brain/skull that has separate thoughts/reactions to what I feel are my own thoughts/beliefs/feelings. I can hear lots of talking/whispering in code / language that doesn’t make sense or that I just can’t make out. It’s constant, very quiet & very fast.

    Later on I had a lie down / tune in whilst in my hammock – I like this because I feel like I’m “flying”.

    I was back in the triangle box, but now able to move about a bit. Then floating, swaying, rotating like a paraglider does coming down a mountain top. Then I was at the “bottom” (this “earth type” space), (but also still in this suspended triangle).

    When I moved my “consciousness” to where I was at the “bottom”, there were so many hands on me, so many people trying to touch me, stroke my hair, touch my arms, face. Old hands, young hands, female, male hands. It was horrible, I couldn’t get away, the crowd was so dense. Couldn’t see faces.

    I “came back” ‘up’ to the triangle & tried to remove this disc from my head. I felt nauseous trying to do this. Then very afraid. I could see a hole in my head (this was “presented” to me as a “consequence” if I removed it) and felt afraid that I would loose a lot of “ability/knowledge” or even perhaps “a part of myself”. I kept trying anyway, but it was jammed in. I could feel it in my subtle head. Had pain in my physical head where it was “sticking out” of my subtle head.

    I have wanted to post this twice, but then felt afraid / anxious to do that. Generally fear and anxiety are not natural state characteristics. So I’m going to post it anyway.

    Really weird experience!

    Hope it’s not a bunch of time wasting shit. X

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    Shalin
    January 14, 2020 @ 2:20 pm

    Clive, it still feels as if sabotage efforts are continuing for me.

    During the past few days I’ve had:

    a) dream of x-girlfriend from back in 2001 (I was so fck’d up after the breakup) and it involved the same theme as if she wants to spend time with me as if to *re-kindle* what a romance.

    b) dream of income tax related conflicts/traumas Ive had in the past with the Canada Revenue Agency

    As well, since my imbalances are so severe that the smallest warming food/spice/herb can exacerbate my symptoms I’ve had an exacerbated situation this week and so I had to make a trip to the Chinese herbal store to purchase various herbs so I could calm the aggravation back to its baseline.

    So I was about to purchase the same herbs I always do BUT this time the herbalist convinced me to add in *Xi Yang Shen* (American Ginseng) because it is cold/cooling and nourishes the yin. I was surprised that there was a *Ginseng* that had a cooling effect as *Ren Shen* (Chinese Ginseng) & Siberian Ginseng are rather warming in nature and have a very strong Qi tonifiying property. I checked online and sure enough it said *Xi Yang Shen* was cold/cooling and yin nourishing.

    So I purchased some of *Xi Yang Shen* and added some to my formula (about 4% of formula) yesterday afternoon. Boy did I pay the price of that as it AGGRAVATED my symptoms even more. I read up further on *Xi Yang Shen* and it turns out that despite being cold/cool it still has a very strong Qi tonifying property and strenghtens the Chong Mai and Du Mai channels, which are channels whose energy flows UP AND I already have a problem with energy flowing UP from other channels (CV Channel). I also think by strengthening Chong Mai channel the LIVER/GB are also strengthened which is VERY BAD for my situation.

    So anyhow, it seems to me sabotage efforts continue for me OR that these sabotages are built into my personal data stores… just an FYI.

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        Clive
        January 16, 2020 @ 7:24 pm

        Hi Shalin, ‘YEA’ there is a stressing/wearing emphasis re current/remaining shit . . . try new focus!!!!

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    Clive
    January 16, 2020 @ 7:18 pm

    Updated/best Focus + I’m busy doing ‘business’ accounts UUuhAAAAH!!!

    Current ‘best’ focus in use as part of the ‘STILL’ continuing investigations of our personal data stores ‘shit’ is this one:

    PERSONAL NEGATIVE/STRESSING IMPACTS ON MYSELF & MY LIFE CIRCUMSTANCES

    ” . . . I connect to absolutely anything/any combination or types of ‘shit’ that has in the past, is now and or would in future directly or indirectly contribute to coveting/protecting/maintaining personal data and or any trauma/pre defined behaviours/responses as well as of maintaining and or working to make worse specific internal to myself states/effects and or any difficult/complicated/stressing/stressful/wearing day in day out general ‘life/living’ circumstances and or particularly problems involving manipulating myself and or any others whom will either be in close proximity to myself and or I’ll directly interact with and particularly to discuss and or resolve my own personal and or living circumstances problems/difficulties/complications with ‘ANYONE’ and or anything circumstances setup in dreams and or otherwise designed to impact my subconscious . . . and or ‘anything’ that is by any means directly or indirectly contributing to maintain any internal or external ‘shit’ states/circumstances and or my personal data cloud/persona/shit data stores and or anything/any combinations of anything/anything’s that has or have been deliberately designed to work in ways that are different/difficult to become aware of and or access/track/figure out/understand and or anything that is using and or directly or indirectly collaborating with anything that is separate from anyone’s data/the data cloud and or which is covertly and or via any convoluted coding, signalling, messaging system is working to maintain myself/others/anything that I’ll likely pass close to and or directly interact with ‘sometime’ as part of efforts to maintain my own and or others shit/shit states and or prevent myself and or any others/anyone else from being able to easily access and or release trt’s/trauma and or any anything contributing to ANY of my limiting, stressing and or traumatizing life circumstances and or interactions with any others . . . “

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    Shalin
    January 17, 2020 @ 7:30 pm

    Clive, so I tried the focus 10-12 times during the past 2 days.

    After each time I read the focus I just lay there in bed with my eyes closed with no lights on in complete darkness and stillness. After not seeing/getting anything I re-read focus and repeat several times.

    After about 7 times doing the focus I got something about CCTV cameras in the ceiling corners of rooms (or what could be outside buildings) with electric/lightening strikes being used to inject shit into/maintain people. I don’t know where the CCTV cameras area though as in my parents house we have 3 cameras around the house but none of them are plugged in and none are placed in the ceiling corners (or on the outside) that I got after the focus. I also got something related to *lighting* – as if lighting systems was being used to inject/transmit/maintain shit in people.

    I tried to *feel* into it more but I can’t *feel* into it as you, Tom & Matt seem to be able to do but that doesn’t surprise me since I feel that I am LOCKED down… and can barely feel any positive emotion and feel like my entire abdomen is cutoff/empty/feelingless so that is invariably playing a major role in my not getting anything with focuses.

    I don’t know if any of what I got is useful to you guys though.

    It doesn’t help that I have energy rising to my head raising my systolic blood pressure making my head feel like its going to explode, which makes it nearly impossible for me to focus/concentrate on anything. :’(

    During the last 5 years that I’ve been trapped in this physical symptom/imbalance hell I’ve wondered what happed that in April/2015 over night my symptoms/imbalances began in a binary event. Was it truly binary in that just at that time our MVOS was hacked by who knows what and for whatever reason I was selected to be one of those people to be fcked with OR was the April/2015 trigger just the end result of 38 years of accumulation of every trauma/negative-emotion/negative-experience that has been LOCKED in my subtle body since the day I was interfaced to this physical avatar?? My sense is it is the 2nd of the two possibilities given my crazy history and non-stop ferocious sexual appetite since a child.

    I will continue with this focus.

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        Clive
        January 18, 2020 @ 2:07 pm

        Hi Shalin/Everyone . . . bit of an update . . . ‘bottom line . . . it’s all still ‘on going’ . . . ‘

        Currently, we are still dealing with various yet more data cloud maintain personal data ‘shit/trauma’ versions.

        BUT, in that I’ve been ‘having to do’ my accounts/tax return for the end of this month, you might find the following interesting and particularly with respect to what this specific page is about/presenting!!!

        We had a ‘cloud’ maintain/block access/release of shit/trauma data version in the last few days that was focused on the criticisers/key people (i.e leaders) of none SNV culture ‘key’ peoples ‘SMALLER’ sub group of about 350 people, which ‘now’ seems to have been dealt with!!!

        However the next version that then kicked in, on checking I found was messing with the full 350,000 set of CR/KP . . . and on myself and Tom doing scans for this set we became aware that it’s an ‘ACCOUNTING’ tree version . . . I’ve been puzzled that in our computer/data age everyone still has to keep and or print out all accounts/invoices/receipts etc onto bits or paper i.e. everything is still being recorded on ‘BIT’S OF TREES’ which also fits with the bottom/last part of the above page in that the ‘Birth Certificate’ i.e. a document directly referring to a specific person is also issued on ‘paper’ (as a WAREHOUSE STORAGE RECEIPT – haha), while all ‘significant’ aspects of your life are also recorded on bit’s of tree too!!!! For example, University and College degrees/certificates too!!!

        Now, I’ve mentioned ‘splits’ on lots of pages here. Such that regular readers here will know that we are all subtle/spirit beings whom divide/split asexually to ‘by and large’ generate/propagate other versions of ourselves.

        Now, as this place/the EAAS was designed specifically to FO the entire none SNV population here AND most if not all efforts related to this are focused on the CR/KP . . . ‘AND’ you might have noticed that our earth population has pretty much always been expanding such that at the moment we’ve between 7/8 billion people here. So, if this place is ‘really’ just focused on FO just the CR/KP population then WHO ARE THE REST!!!

        In checking it turns out that the EAAS MVOS is and has been for a long, long time making more and more duplicates of the CR/KP. So, out of the 7/8 billion we have here now only about 6% of the earth population is made up of SNV people while ALL OF THE REST are actually duplicates of the 350,000 base CR/KP sub population i.e. likely everyone of you reading this has another 20,971’ish’ other versions of yourself here. I.e. 94% of the current population is made up of just 350,000 subtle beings!!!!

        So, the smaller CR/KP sub group that other recent shit has been protecting which was of just 350 CR/KP was actually ‘really’ protecting 359×20,971’ish’ in total!!!

        So, it’s no wonder that we’ve been having problems trying to get access/hack the most recent/current shit as A) it’s only protecting the data of 350,000 people (rather than 7ish billion (it’ll be much easier to do this)) while then also likely confusing things with respect to ‘variation’ factors related to any different individual CR/KP’s copies current incarnations race/culture/ethnicity/religion/status/job/personal circumstances etc etc’!!!!

        Bottom line, our specific MVOS EAAS version isn’t functioning as any other ‘normal’ FOR ALL OF THE REST MVOS within the entire data system.

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    Megan
    January 22, 2020 @ 3:03 am

    Re: Clive “Updated/best Focus + I’m busy doing ‘business’ accounts UUuhAAAAH!!!”

    When I first read this focus about half way through the words seemed to fragment in my head like the picture on a television screen when the signal is being interrupted, causing the video to distort through frames and the audio to skip. My head has felt bogged down and I have felt lethargic at times. It has been off and on since the new focus has come out.

    I’m reading a book on indigenous spirituality on have had trouble reading to the point where I would re-read sentences two to three times must so what I read would stick. I’m still having issues putting time and attention towards things I want to do, that all my time and energy are diverted elsewhere.

    I have this extreme focus or sensitivity towards other people and whether they need help or not, even if it is over the simplest things that they can do on their own I am always asking if they need help or something is wrong, and I know this habit gets on my roommate’s nerves, not to mention my co-workers. It drives me nuts because it’s not like these people are helpless and invalid. Feeling into these feelings of wanting to be helpful and supportive, I get ‘we don’t need your help.’ At this I am left wondering what the hell I am here for then.

    On the other hand though, when I am working with a team of people and have been given clear instructions and documentation on how to do something I still feel doubtful and insecure. For example, at work the other day, I was working in an area where I had to unbox and build items that would later be loaded into a rack used to control electronic signs. Well, I was still in training and there was a part on the cart that I had never had to unbox before and even though my standard operating procedure said to unbox everything except the power supply, I felt lost/thoughtless/unsure about it so I asked the technician assistant if I had to unbox it or not (sometimes I don’t know about this area. Nothing is really set in stone and things seem to be constantly changing or in flux.) While I didn’t quite feel the self-conscious, ‘you dumbass’ kind of feelings I usually get when I ask stupid, obvious questions, I still got the impression that he was fed up with the question. It’s like I can’t do anything without someone giving me a verbal confirmation or reassurance that what I read or had been told is right. Honestly, my world still feels so closed off and so small. I have little to no creativity or thinking outside of what I am told to think or do. I feel like a robot or a doll who needs commands/input from others just to do something, and even then it has to be done their way. I feel very logical/linear/one-track minded and that all of this seems to be closing in on me.

    Still have a tendency to ignore/repress/deny those things that tend to bug be or make me feel back. This has actually cleared up quite a bit.

    I realize that I have no interest in the job I have, or any job I have ever had, and none of them have ever been what I wanted to do.

    I noticed at work that all the issues I had regarding people I trusted or relied on that I projected into and played out through my stories are actually being projected onto my co-workers and it is helping me resolve these things faster. I noticed that a part of me wanted to know why people were behaving the way they were and why they were treating each other like shit. I get the impression that people were acting all wrong and it was this change or behavior that I didn’t understand that got me to investigate or try to do something about it.

    I still feel some skepticism towards spiritual issues. I’m becoming more away of certain non-physical things, but it is still like my monkey mind still needs undeniable evidence that this is indeed real and not some foolish/delusional fantasy I created to comfort myself. And that’s another thing. The more I try to talk about spirituality with other people the more I feel they think I’m talking about some figment of my imagination or they dismiss it or they thing I’m talking about whatever they are interested in, in my terms.

    I did the focus before going to bed, woke up sometime last night to images of 3D blocks moving around in space and it reminded me of the defragging process on a computer.

    Things are steadily getting better.

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    Clive
    January 22, 2020 @ 2:10 pm

    11th March: Latest update and focus is here:

    18th Feb: Latest update & focus is >>HERE<<.

    30th Jan: Older UPDATE and older focus’s are below!!!!

    We seem to have no further separate sabotaging ‘shit’ blocking access to each persons personal trauma data however we have found a few people whom have had there personal data stores modified/adapted in ways to block/make releases of trauma/personal shit effects as difficult as possible. So, immediately below is a new focus that targets this ‘blocking’ shit specifically:

    BEST FOCUS TO FACILITATE PERSONAL TRAUMA/TRT ‘RELEASES’: The focus immediately below is currently the best to use if you’ve anything ‘difficult’ going on because this specifically targets anything limiting/blocking TRT/personal data access/releases:

    . . . I connect to any components/combinations of components that have been, are now and or that would in the future contribute to indexing and or coveting/keeping hidden/obscured and or fire-walling, guarding, locking down and or screening access to my own or anyone else’s trauma and or personal/persona/behaviour and or response data and or current incarnated life culture/society and or status/class/standing data for myself/each individual and or anything that is contributing in the slightest to making up/defining specific angles of and or specific trauma/trt’s and or trt impacts as well as deliberately traumatic/traumatizing ‘trauma/shit effects’ releases and or anything monitoring, predicting, preempting and or then reacting to, blocking/locking, locking down/containing and or otherwise detrimentally interfering with any trauma and or any trt/trt combination releases including using Chinese finger-traps, vicious feedback spirals, loops and or anything which contributes to define a wide range/variety of influences with variable/numerous delivery options and or variable/numerous final influence/influences and or impacts as part of making tracking and or countering/neutralising anything of any of this as difficult as possible . . .

    Targeting Ultra Transforming/Self Altering SHIT: I connect to absolutely anything/everything that has been designed to emulate advantages and of give any shit ‘advantages’ such that hacking this shit is difficult or impossible, shit that in various combinations and under certain conditions/circumstances have been specifically designed/refined/tested/optimised to work/function in very convoluted/miss-leading/constantly transforming and or generating fractal like aspects/sub aspects/functions/divergent functioning versions/aspects of itself and or otherwise functioning in ways to be as difficult to track/understand/decode/figure out never mind negate/neutralise/block . . . and or anything/any combination of components that we’re specifically designed to emulate any type of advantages/advantaged abilities/characteristics and or ‘functioning and particularly to avoid being tracked/hacked and or then compromised/combated/tamed/negated/disabled and or understood . . . and or generates any temporary and or compressed and or ultra compressed but ‘still’ able to generate functional components from these including as micro dot/coded data/information type components and or anything similar and or equivalent and or just temporarily/momentarily, and or any interacting reality foundation substrates and or any temporary non-normal ‘pockets or strata’s’ of reality temporarily appearing and disappearing on the fly and or anything with similar and or equivalent functions/functioning abilities/objectives and or anything exhibiting eclectic/apparent randomised and or illogical/chaotic functioning and or that defines and or generates any dormant ‘dust’ or equivalent type data particle components that on when ‘activated/wake up’ do things under TXYZ conditions, and or as part of setting up circumstances to have knock-on and or long-term and or accumulative effects on specific people and or their environments/others connected to them and or anything/any combination of ‘anythings’ including temporary ‘processors’ that directly or indirectly define, re-write and or alter base reality functioning and or rulesets and or generate temporary versions of the same or similar anywhere/everywhere and or while modifying the base functioning/functionality of the components associated with it including switching from logic to anti-logic to variations of fuzzy logic and semi-logic and chaotic ‘logic’ and any switching Rubic’s Cube type and or CrystalMaze like efforts and or any other variations of non-normal/abnormal functioning components and or that switches between these and or other variations/possibilities ALL THE TIME to make/keep itself as untrackable, none understandable/incomprehensible/bizarre/illogical and or fuzzy, chaotic, anti-logical/none logical etc, from one moment to the next, and then again the next moment and or use multiple conflicting logics/anti-logic variations and or anything else/any other combination simultaneously and or anything contributing to continually keeping it all transforming/altering any/all aspects of itself, it’s functioning though time

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        Clive
        January 22, 2020 @ 4:46 pm

        UPDATE/extension to the above: INTERESTING HACKING DETAILS OF CURRENT SHIT

        Update from Tom which is describing in great detail the scale as well as the sophistication of the functioning of current shit:

        After finishing my last email update to you, I do the ‘Facilitating trauma releases’ exercise you put up, then the latest focus ten times. I begin to see something like glass beads moving around on some giant, complicated framework, and it reminds me of ‘The Glass Bead Game’ by Hermann Hesse:

        “The plot revolves around a game (the Glass Bead Game) that requires expertise in all fields of science, art, music, literature, history to win. There is a entire subset of Castalia that is solely devoted to perfecting their skill at the game. The rules are vague and complex and as readers we’re not really meant to know the specifics other than that it is complicated, beautiful and incredibly challenging. To win the game is akin to achieving a state of perfection or bliss – seeing the interconnectivity of everything in life. Knecht dedicates himself to the game, goes through many trials of faith and ultimately wins and then goes on to become Magister Ludi. The story incorporates aspects of eastern and western philosophy.”

        https://www.quora.com/What-is-Hesses-The-Glass-Bead-Game-novel-about

        So Knecht, the protagonist of the story, could represent me or someone else in a VR who was given a sort of pre-made ‘puzzle’ / challenge to master, which could then relate to this shit, so that when they solved the puzzle, they could then be converted into an AI which would oversee and help to develop this system. Then “seeing the interconnectivity of everything in life” feels like “enlightenment”, but also a kind of piss-take that could relate to some shit which connects many different things here as part of delivering or maintaining shit

        As I continue the focus, I see the framework ‘fleshing out’ as I become aware of more and more of it. First it begins to look three-dimensional, then eventually it feels omnidimensional / like it’s spread across many different dimensions, and also omnidirectional. It also feels organic and like it’s growing and changing all the time. I see the beads moving around from one place to another, and it feels to me like the beads are the ‘trt’s’ from different past lives or people’s original forms, which are being deployed into specific combinations and structures / ‘organised’ in a way which most accurately reflects the SNV’s objectives

        It now feels like this is moving ‘through time’ too, not that it’s merely four-dimensional (it seems to have more dimensions than that) and updating as time goes on. It also seems to exist in the future, as if the future has already been planned out and there are prospective / ‘will exist at this moment’ future trt’s existing at different points in the future. So I have the sense of a timeline covering many lives in the past which is also focused on the present and the future. It’s as if everyone’s being guided along a specific progression which corresponds to the SNV’s objectives, and this guiding seems to be being done by the trt’s / glass beads continuously moving around

        But it’s not exactly like a timeline as it’s not ‘chronological’ in a way, like a straight line. It’s more like it’s everywhere, in the future as well as the present and the past. I get that the ‘Glass Bead Game’ which I’m seeing relates to all the Tom’s, so 20,971 or however many. Then there seem to be other ‘Glass Bead Games’ which relate to other people and those people being reprogrammed / gradually altered in relation to the SNV’s objectives. It’s like each game is focused on 20,971 people who are all versions of each other

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    Megan
    January 24, 2020 @ 2:30 am

    I read Clive’s recent update at work during break and something interesting happened shortly after break was over. So, I have mentioned before the peer-auditing process we do to help each other improve our work and processes, and the selection of what area to audit is completely random by drawing a card out of a bin. Well, one thing my supervisor stipulated is that we are supposed to find one waste in the process, and if we can’t we were to call my supervisor over, and he would observe and help find one. Well, the girl didn’t observe a waste, so she called my supervisor over and they both watched for a while. Well, they found one waste, I had to recheck some settings in some screens I had previously looked at for another setting, but the whole time the girl was there, even before she had called over my supervisor (who I would usually feel very hostile/defense/on edge about, this is steadily improving,) I felt on cornered and self-conscious, and felt worst after she called my supervisor over and they identified a waste in the process. Ever since they started this process it has felt like a ‘slave master cracking the whip’ kind of thing. I mean I can see benefits of the auditing system but there is a part of me that absolutely hates it (this has gotten better in the last couple weeks, but this incident kind of surprised me.) It’s like they are trying to beat the humanity out of us and make us into automatons. This concerns me because I’m afraid I’m going to snap at my boss.

    Reading the focus two times, I connect with feelings of bitterness, exhaustion and resentment. Earlier this evening I was reflecting on the fact that I am a copy of someone else who lives outside of this reality, and given the interest and intensity that I have with these focuses now I assume or am hoping that my original self is helping to resolve this mess. With that in mind, I feel resentful as the copy being stuck having to do what she/it has done or is doing, of being unable to be an individual, unable to chose and have no freedom or free will to do what I want to do, and I feel sorry for feeling this way.

    I remember how intense and draining and lonely my trauma-releases have been. How absolutely no one I around me knows or cares or understands what I am dealing with, that I have been through and how hard and painful it can be at times. No support or understanding or sympathy and recovering is a bitch. Even when I am exhausted I can’t/don’t stop working on my issues and trying to deepen my awareness internally.

    I noticed at work my mind isn’t always with body at times, or with me in the present moment when I need it. It’s only when I am out of work, alone or in a small, relaxed group of people, do I really feel whole, but still my mind is still away in a sense because doing focuses and expanding my sensitivities and awareness is far more interesting than anything society/culture has to offer in here.

    I remember all the plastic bags, metal and paper we throw out at work even through we recycle paper and aluminum and steel. We are so focused on our work or burnt out to care whether we toss this in the garbage or not, I’ll be honest even I barely care which I know is bad. Remembering all this I get the impression that it is not a simple matter of getting out of here and shutting this monstrosity down, but that it will be operational for awhile while we sort out, deal with and correct all the things that have happened that is fucking us over outside of this place.

    I’m reminded of my intense demand or intention to get out of here or get away. It’s been reflected in my relationships and personal interactions here in the past. The moment I was yelled at or hurt in anyway (there was often no empathy, understanding or forgiveness in these instances,) I would mentally and emotionally shut them out, give them the cold shoulder or leave/run away to a new group of friends and/or family to make a better life for myself. But the better life never happened, it was always the same old thing and I’d end up running away again to a new group of people and the same pattern would repeat itself. This is kind of what played out at my last job. This has frustrated me greatly in the past and I never understood why I would do this or could never fix the problem, even though I don’t know what that is but I always assumed it was my fault. Sometimes I wasn’t even the one who would do it. People would just drift away or leave automatically.

    I remember a couple times I had told a counselor, and a lightworker about some personal and painful issues I didn’t know how to deal with or who to turn to and both of them reacted poorly to the point that I stopped seeing them. It’s has frustrated me how piss poor any form of ‘approved’ help is. It’s really pisses me off that we have to pay a complete stranger who has no connection or experience with us and our lives to just have someone ‘listen.’

    I realize that a lot of the violence and disrespect in TV/movies/video games/etc has been a major turn off for me. I’m very out of touch with society, and for so long I’ve felt like this arrogant rebel thinking I was protesting, hiding away or even getting angry/rioting against these things without any knowledge or understanding. Something feels off reflecting on all this and on Clive’s comment about the population numbers, because with all the civil-rights movements and protests and anger and pain and the death in the news things here should have changed, but reflecting even on my faint and limited knowledge of history, conditions here have barely budged. I sense a fluffy/gel-like cushion/barrier between what is going on here and what people want, and what is going on up there in the sky. I also realize all of our governments, even democracy-based ones, are a hoax to give us the illusion that we have power or a choice or can make a difference or change things, but we can’t.

    Going to bed after all of this, I felt suction cup-like cap upon my head with a long tube coming off the top of my head.

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        Clive
        January 24, 2020 @ 10:10 am

        Yea Megan what you write (how you are made to work) is exceptionally equivalent to Tom’s descriptions in his last update in terms of how the shit is attempting to make us all into automatons:

            . . . I engage with templates which seem to be overlaid onto people’s data, which relate to “autopilot / unthinking / automatic” mode. It’s as if these could be activated to make them act without thinking in specific situations, or in relation to political decisions (such as voting) or have a mindless adherence to specific opinions / automatic views on specific topics.

            They feel almost like doll tech, or a sort of hive mind / Borg shit / group think shit delivery system. It feels as if they relate to ideologies, beliefs, unthinking obedience and group conformity. They also feel “cultish” in terms of the strength with which they impact people’s thinking.

            I get that some people are marked by this system for “special attention”, which for some people could mean protecting them (for example because they’re important to delivering / implementing some facet of the SNV’s objectives) and for other people could mean persecuting them / putting them into shit. I get that both of these, protection and persecution, can be done by putting other people into the autopilot mode, in which state they can be effectively, finely controlled to go after someone / act in a way which would traumatise them, or defend someone else / act in a way which supports or validates them.

            I have a sense of this “autopilot” shit delivery system being like music, it’s like an automatic flow of sound through multiple people, or a current which carries them with it. Then I also connect to “conductors”, who are influencing other people to follow this music (eg trend-setters / people who are copied, respected or listened to), but it also feels like these conductors themselves are also being conducted by the same “music” / current, and being used for its agenda in exactly the same way.

            I also get connection to people who people react against the conductors or music / flow, and try to conduct a different “tune”, or who ignore or attack the music / flow of autopilot behaviour, and at times it feels like this too is prompted by the shit, that it wants specific people to oppose the flow, for example to break them down / wear them out, or as a token opposition, or to make the people who are going with the autopilot flow / music feel like they’re being radical / dangerous and going against the status quo.

            I see what looks like a framework surrounded by water, and it feels like the framework represents the structure of society / people in specific positions, and the water represents pretty much everyone else, the people who can be taken over by the autopilot templates. It feels like the water / group thinking autopilot people can be used to help manage things to stay the same / maintain the structure of society and its hierarchies, or work to change something of this in pre-defined, desired ways.

            Some people seem to be more naturally “resistant” to these autopilot templates. I see what look like currents, representing the flow of people’s opinions or autopilot conformity, and then see other, opposing currents where other people are managed to disagree with and fight the original group of people. Then there also seem to be (often more isolated) people who are encouraged to stand up / speak out about something, but are rarely if ever listened to in any meaningful way.

            There seem to be some very subtle TXYZ networks here, which are managing beliefs, perspectives and ideologies. It feels like they have more of the same type of convoluted advantages which you described in your chat message at 1am, but different to those ones (perhaps working in other, ‘different’ types of convoluted ways).

            I engage with religions now, and the way in which these autopilot templates are used to get people to conform to or react against the different religions, or set up “offshoots / new branches” of them. Next I connect to writers such as Freud and Jung, and I become aware of currents of thought that flow through time, and people being propelled to agree or disagree with them, then of conflicts and cross-currents being set up.

            I connect to what feel like fads and movements, eg this type of therapy or that type of meditation – these seem to last for a time, and then be replaced by something else or changed.

            It feels like people are being subtly nudged one way or another over years and decades, particularly the “conductors” / people who other people follow. As an example of this, I connect to Freud’s views on the experiences of incest which many of his patients seem to have reported, and him changing his mind / saying they must all be making it up because there are too many of them reporting these experiences and it’s their own suppressed wishes (for example, to have sex with their father) rather than something which is really happening.

            I become aware of sets of associated timelines relating to specific areas of thinking over time / throughout the past. For example, I connect to what feel like ongoing schools of thought / ways in which things are done – “this is how to do a specific type of therapy / hypnosis, or this is how to build a house (eg using asbestos)”. Then I see ripples at specific points, like stones being dropped in, which seem to represent new books being written or new discoveries being made, which then change the timelines from that point onwards so that (some / many / most, depending on the change) therapists or hypnotists adopt different approaches, or different materials are used in buildings etc.

            I see new timelines starting, which seem to relate to “new” ways of doing things, eg therapy / hypnosis, or at other times it seems to be old ways of doing things which haven’t been used for some time and have been revived / given a different name or “spin”.

            It feels like this system works to “set up” events so that people encounter specific timelines / come across and are influenced by / react against or adopt different types of thinking / ways of doing things.

            I have the impression of something almost like a complicated weaving machine, with people being moved in and out of or through these different unfolding timelines, as the glass beads / trt’s and associated “thinking management templates” propel them in different ways. Next I get that there are some people being kept away from certain timelines or people / books associated with them / which are presenting specific ideas.

            It’s like there’s some kind of needs analysis going on for objectives in relation to each person / timeline – this feels like it should be going on continuously, and confirming at each moment that the correct progression has been chosen, but it’s as if everything’s already pre-defined and if this kind of calculation “is” happening, it’s entirely off the radar, in some kind of hidden space. This / the system which I’m aware of now is more like something which is already pre-defined, and is “active” / doing things and making calculations, but also doesn’t feel “complete” at this stage.

            Now it feels like there are some kind of engines interacting with the trt’s of everyone who’s involved with a specific ‘timeline’ or is predicted as potentially being involved with it – but these engines seem to be influencing people ‘from the past’, and it’s like they’re focused on the integrity of the timeline (making sure each timeline continues for as long as it’s supposed to, so that it can have the desired effects by people doing things in specific ways in specific circumstances at specific times) but it also feels like the machines are focused on the personal objectives in relation to each person in the EAAS, and working to maintain them in the right trt’s / keep steering them towards a future target version of themselves.

            So these engines seem to be influencing people from the past, tweaking things here and there or making more coordinated / intrusive adjustments, to ensure that everything proceeds the way it’s supposed to. I get that technological progress (eg that of specific “preferred” SNV companies, who are being given advantages over other, non-SNV companies) is also being managed and controlled by some of these engines, which makes me think about the technological slowdown here in the EAAS.

            I see a cat’s cradle of interconnections stretching from these machines, which are active in the past and influencing through time, to current events and other past events which happened since the machines were “created” – it’s not clear yet exactly how they are created, but it feels sort of like what we found when there were shit sets generating new cells of memory with processors inside them, to meet increased demand – it’s like they’re automatically generated whenever some overseeing system, monitoring the progression of SNV objectives through time and making predictions about the future, detects that they’re needed.

            It feels like no major changes happen in the EAAS without these machines / processors knowing about it and being involved in it, since they appear to be involved in all the progression of different ideologies and perspectives over time, eg “immigrants are bad and stealing people’s jobs”, or “austerity is necessary to balance the budget”, or other perspectives which could contribute to the balance of power / the people who are in charge at a specific point in history and can make changes on behalf of many other people.

            So these machines seem to be driving changes in thinking / new products or ways of doing things etc in society, and sometimes it’s like they switch off for a while, then restart at a pre-defined point and “resurrect” something that was done in the past. I just had the example of the inquisition representing psychiatry and the benefits assessments, so it’s like different “means” to impact people in the same way, which started at different points in history but can be used to build up and worsen broadly similar trt’s. Also, the people who were put through the original inquisition could then be set up to encounter psychiatry here and or have the benefits assessments, to continue the accumulation of these inquisition-related traumas.

            The same machines seem to be driving different kinds of broadly similar or related changes in different cultures / changes which are “tailored” to how that society currently is / thinks, some of which could be more extreme than others, depending on what that particular culture was “ready” to implement. This for example allows them to compare the changes being made / ways of doing things being implemented in many different contexts, and analyse them all / compare the changes and come up with ideas to make one or the other “better” in terms of achieving SNV objectives, then prompt a key person to “come up with” the idea to do this / what the machines want them to do.

            It feels like specific people are “earmarked” / chosen to push specific reforms – as an example of this I connect to the guy who came up with the bedroom tax / benefits assessments in the UK, and it’s as if these people can be very finely controlled by the overseeing machines to present information / ideas in exactly the right way so that others (eg other decision-makers) will agree with them, and the changes will then be implemented – I see all the glass beads / trt’s relating to all these people moving in unison / sort of “rippling” as they encounter the information they’re supposed to agree (or disagree) with, and it’s as if these “earmarked” key people are used as levers who are fundamental to making the changes which these machines want to happen in a specific culture / area.

            I become aware of specific groups of people being targeted, eg by legislation or changes in a specific company, and it feels like they were manoeuvred to be part of that group / work at that company in the first place, so that they could then be impacted by changes which this system already knew it was going to make.

            Next I get that everyone has a trajectory or set of trajectories which is being monitored and choreographed the way this system wants it to be – this seems to relate to factors like income, quality of life, interactions, home environment etc.

            I get that for each person, some actions are rewarded and some are punished – it feels like an ongoing punishment and reward (reprogramming) system.

            Now I get that rewards and punishments can also be delivered to specific groups of people, so that even if you yourself haven’t done anything which would trigger the reward / punishment / reprogramming system, you can still be strongly influenced by it, just from being part of a specific group or class of people from this system’s perspective, which this system likely manoeuvred you to be part of in the first place.

            Now it feels like the reward / punishment system can change and become more or less aggressive / stringent / reactive at specific times (even randomly), and that it can also react to the symbolic resonance of things which people or groups do, and can react to these in different ways, depending on what type of symbolism it’s chosen to react to, out of a range of possibilities. More and more, it just feels like excuses for this system to do whatever it likes to whoever it likes, whenever it likes. The seemingly random alteration in aggressiveness reminds me of what I’ve often experienced with the mindloops – I’m doing something which doesn’t seem to trigger them, and then it suddenly switches from one minute, hour or day to the next, for no apparent reason at all.

            There seem to be TXYZ shit delivery systems associated with specific people, places and groups which have dormant shit and can activate literally at any time, and begin to deliver effects. It almost feels like it’s been done in a deliberately random way, to keep people off balance / not knowing what is going to happen next.

            I engage with what feel like pre-defined scripts for specific conversations, and “spikes” of trauma impacting one person or the other at a specific moment, to get them to change the subject / forget something / remember something or react in a particular way to something which has / hasn’t been said.

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            Clive
            January 24, 2020 @ 6:58 pm

            Megan RE my reply to Shalin’s comment you could do the same, i.e. the next time you do the current/latest focus start with:

            ” . . . I connect to absolutely anything/everything that has been deliberately designed into my personal data/trt store and or anywhere else that has been, is now and or would in the future contribute to: ”

            And then ‘think of or mentally list/internally highlight’ anything you’re not happy with!!!!

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    Shalin
    January 24, 2020 @ 5:16 pm

    Clive, So I’ve done the focus about 12 times in the past 2 days and I don’t see much as usual. Each time I do the focus it takes me about 1 hour as with intent I connect to all of my trauma/situation/circumstance categories I have experienced in this life and their timelines. There is a lot of SHIT I have experienced in this life so each round of focus takes some time to fully cover everything.

    What I got:

    1) I got an assembly line of what appeared to be items like balls/beads or bottles moving along conveyer belt/assembly line and each getting some kind of attention as they passed through a station along the line. Think of an assembly line filling bottles of pepsi cola for example – the bottles each get a squirt of cola at the cola station, then a cap at the cap station and then a label at the labeling station. I don’t know what the context of any of this is- whether the bottles/balls/beads represent our traumas/trts and the assembly line being how they move along in time??

    2) Another time I got a structure like a circular space station https://i.stack.imgur.com/Q89O4.jpg with multiple rings. Each of the rings were rotating in different directions and along a ring are compartments of traumas/trts/pre-defined-shit. I tried to feel into it but wasn’t able to get any more than that.

    Seems to me 1 & 2 above appear to be like what Tom described with the beads but slightly different representation.

    The following are my situations/circumstances/trauma categories although many of these involve multiple combination of these:

    a) Financial loss traumas & poverty circumstances/situations
    b) Job loss traumas & current/past job stressors/frustrations/disappointments/cognitive-overload/overwhelmed
    c) HIV & STD related traumas
    d) Family conflicts- physical/verbal/emotional/sexual abuse
    e) Romantic relationship loss/heartbreak -I repel women for whatever reason
    f) Dollhouse/body invasions
    g) Conflicts/incidences that have caused extreme guilt/shame/embarrassment/self-hate
    h) Sexual addictions & sexual frustrations
    i) My entire persona/behavior is conflict, combative, anger, fear, & worry driven – conflicts with friends, conflicts with strangers, conflicts with family, conflicts with coworkers, conflicts with money, conflicts with romance, conflicts with sexuality, conflicts with myself
    j) Hatred/disdain for people in authority – politicians, corporate executives, governments, my father etc

    I don’t know if:
    1) there is anything built into my data stores that is DELIBERATELY causing my physical imbalances/symptoms (as in to keep me STUCK/DEBILITATED). Like shit A messes with the Liver, shit B messes with the spleen/stomach, shit C messes with the Kidney and so on.
    OR
    2) whether they are the end result of all of the above issue/trauma/circumstance/situation categories being LOCKED in my subtle/physical body
    OR
    3) whether there is something entirely different responsible for it that I am not aware of and not able to describe/articulate?

    Your latest update re: Tom’s feedback is fascinating. I can see that I have so many autopilot/automatic triggers/beliefs/thinking/reactions, specific people who ALWAYS trigger conflicts/combative-situations with me and reward/punishments of which I have mostly had punishments in this life (must be like for every 1 reward I’ve had 20 punishments) and specific circumstances/sabotages that repeat over and over again to fck me up.

    I will continue with the focus and report back if anything new pops up but I definitely don’t see things like how you/Tom do.

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        Clive
        January 24, 2020 @ 6:54 pm

        Great effort Shalin, you’re obviously starting to get some decent access to current ‘shit’ . . . next time you do the focus start with:

        ” . . . I connect to absolutely anything/everything that has been deliberately designed into my personal data/trt store and or anywhere else that has been, is now and or would in the future contribute to: ”

        Then read/scan your comment issue list with the intention to ‘engage with everything’ directly or indirectly contributing to anything of any of these . . . and then switch to do the main/current focus, as this will likely ‘help’!!!!

        Everyone is different when doing scans Shalin, although I suspect that the external/upper lot/help have copied/pasted adapted Tom’s hacking tech to work with your focus/scan efforts!!!!

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        Clive
        January 25, 2020 @ 1:31 am

        30th Jan: Latest UPDATE and current best Focus trauma ‘release’ to use at the present time!!!!

        We seem to have no further separate sabotaging ‘shit’ blocking access to each persons personal trauma data however we have found a few people whom have had there personal data stores modified/adapted in ways to block/make releases of trauma/personal shit effects as difficult as possible. So, immediately below is a new focus that targets this ‘blocking’ shit specifically:

        BEST FOCUS TO FACILITATE PERSONAL TRAUMA/TRT ‘RELEASES’: The focus immediately below is currently the best to use if you’ve anything ‘difficult’ going on because this specifically targets anything limiting/blocking TRT/personal data access/releases:

        . . . I connect to any components/combinations of components that have been, are now and or that would in the future contribute to indexing and or coveting/keeping hidden/obscured and or fire-walling, guarding, locking down and or screening access to my own or anyone else’s trauma and or personal/persona/behaviour and or response data and or current incarnated life culture/society and or status/class/standing data for myself/each individual and or anything that is contributing in the slightest to making up/defining specific angles of and or specific trauma/trt’s and or trt impacts as well as deliberately traumatic/traumatizing ‘trauma/shit effects’ releases and or anything monitoring, predicting, preempting and or then reacting to, blocking/locking, locking down/containing and or otherwise detrimentally interfering with any trauma and or any trt/trt combination releases including using Chinese finger-traps, vicious feedback spirals, loops and or anything which contributes to define a wide range/variety of influences with variable/numerous delivery options and or variable/numerous final influence/influences and or impacts as part of making tracking and or countering/neutralising anything of any of this as difficult as possible . . .

        Targeting Ultra Transforming/Self Altering SHIT: I connect to absolutely anything/everything that has been designed to emulate advantages and of give any shit ‘advantages’ such that hacking this shit is difficult or impossible, shit that in various combinations and under certain conditions/circumstances have been specifically designed/refined/tested/optimised to work/function in very convoluted/miss-leading/constantly transforming and or generating fractal like aspects/sub aspects/functions/divergent functioning versions/aspects of itself and or otherwise functioning in ways to be as difficult to track/understand/decode/figure out never mind negate/neutralise/block . . . and or anything/any combination of components that we’re specifically designed to emulate any type of advantages/advantaged abilities/characteristics and or ‘functioning and particularly to avoid being tracked/hacked and or then compromised/combated/tamed/negated/disabled and or understood . . . and or generates any temporary and or compressed and or ultra compressed but ‘still’ able to generate functional components from these including as micro dot/coded data/information type components and or anything similar and or equivalent and or just temporarily/momentarily, and or any interacting reality foundation substrates and or any temporary non-normal ‘pockets or strata’s’ of reality temporarily appearing and disappearing on the fly and or anything with similar and or equivalent functions/functioning abilities/objectives and or anything exhibiting eclectic/apparent randomised and or illogical/chaotic functioning and or that defines and or generates any dormant ‘dust’ or equivalent type data particle components that on when ‘activated/wake up’ do things under TXYZ conditions, and or as part of setting up circumstances to have knock-on and or long-term and or accumulative effects on specific people and or their environments/others connected to them and or anything/any combination of ‘anythings’ including temporary ‘processors’ that directly or indirectly define, re-write and or alter base reality functioning and or rulesets and or generate temporary versions of the same or similar anywhere/everywhere and or while modifying the base functioning/functionality of the components associated with it including switching from logic to anti-logic to variations of fuzzy logic and semi-logic and chaotic ‘logic’ and any switching Rubic’s Cube type and or CrystalMaze like efforts and or any other variations of non-normal/abnormal functioning components and or that switches between these and or other variations/possibilities ALL THE TIME to make/keep itself as untrackable, none understandable/incomprehensible/bizarre/illogical and or fuzzy, chaotic, anti-logical/none logical etc, from one moment to the next, and then again the next moment and or use multiple conflicting logics/anti-logic variations and or anything else/any other combination simultaneously and or anything contributing to continually keeping it all transforming/altering any/all aspects of itself, it’s functioning though time

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            Clive
            January 25, 2020 @ 6:09 pm

            Updated Latest focus version is above!!!

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    Megan
    January 25, 2020 @ 4:40 am

    Thanks for the addition Clive it helped a bunch!

    So, I am taking dance and yoga classes, and as much as the original focus helped I was still feeling resistance to doing, or the idea of doing, physical exercise, and by extension, hard work so I just listed this for my first time using the latest update to the focus.

    I was always told, ‘…to work hard and you’ll make your dreams come true’, or ‘work hard and you’ll be happy,’ and I whole-heartedly agreed with this in the past and live by it, still do in a way. But the sad thing I realize for those things I really worked hard for, in the best way I understood or knew how, I was never happy, and my dreams never came true.

    ‘Hard work’ and lying, presenting a false self that others would accept and approve of and wanted to see, is all I have ever been able to do to connect with people, or even attempt to be or do what I wanted or wanted to get done, which in my case bordered on self-abusive on many levels. From believing I was lazy, to being self-conscious and obedient to the thoughts/feelings/beliefs/opinions of others. I worked hard to the point of hatred of myself and my life and others, too burnt out because I never got what had been promised or implied.

    I get it now why this system would spin it to have me hate my original – ‘Higher’- self, being able to feel, my own sensitivities and awareness, and even topics of ESP/spirits/spirituality.

    Reading Clive’s reply to Shalin about those on the outside likely giving him a copied version of Tom’s hacking tech to help him out, and I want to help the hacking efforts in any way I can, and I immediately get resistance. A part of me hates the idea. I see me/she/it sitting in an isolated, gray corner with her back turned to me. I suddenly feel old and tired, and just want to be left alone. I’m sick and tired of the harassment. It’s also scary. I don’t want to lose anything/everything!

    My thoughts then stray onto romance and intimate relationships, and I realize that it’s not that I am averse to having an intimate relationship with someone else, it’s that I literally cannot have a relationship with someone, not without it ending in absolute disappointment and misery. And this block feels physical somehow, like it is a part of my body. This also reminds me about my own reflections and musings on family, and how the structure of family and its importance is designed to restrict and traumatize us.

    Shalin, if I may, it might be a good idea to focus on just one issue at time when you are working with the focus rather than a whole group of issues all in one sitting at least until you get used to how the focuses work for you. Reason being is back when I first started using the focuses, I didn’t really see anything either, and after months of frustration and failure I was guided to slow down and just focus on one issue at a time. The first issue was my disconnect with my emotions/lower chakras and having to learn how to accept, identify and express my emotions in a healthy manner since I tended to block them out or avoid them at all costs, I had actually stopped doing focuses for the most part during this time. Once I was comfortable with feeling again no matter how I felt I was encouraged to pick the focuses back up again. Sometimes even just doing a focus on one issue would cause a waterfall or daisy chain effect into other areas that bothered me, and even into other areas that were a problem, but I didn’t think anything of them.

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    Annabelle
    January 26, 2020 @ 3:18 am

    No less than 3 new family and friends medical emergencies to include cancer, broken hip, and breathing issues. My stress level is thru the roof as I try to help and cover for everyone. During all of this, some friends started asking about very personal details – like what time is the hospital appointment and what are the names of my relatives involved. I wondered why they asked and they said they were going to enroll me in their church prayer chain. I thought I really do not want that, and it seems uninvited prayers are an intrusion. I remember as a child looking at church bulletins and seeing long lists of peoples names with all of their problems listed in the prayer section.
    As of January 1, I started to get severe hives all over and worked to eliminate food allergens and bought all new organic cotton clothing. This was of no help. I finally thought of a medication I have been taking for one year and stopped it and the hives disappeared over night.
    Did the recent focus and saw a ball of wet and tangled spaghetti spinning like a globe.
    I continue to have a lack of enjoyment of most of my favorite activities and wish I could feel good and happy.
    Continuous dreams about old relationships that seem to be releasing trauma – like should I continue this relationship, and it really isn’t working out, so what ever happened is ok.

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        Clive
        February 14, 2020 @ 4:27 pm

        Hi Annabella, I think we’re likely in a phase where (because of the system is starting to ‘fail/have problems’) it’s possible it’s resorted to causing personal connection ‘problems’ i.e. distracting problems with respect to close others!!!! Although your last paragraph is also of ‘relationship’ traumas/problems so, these ‘could’ also be attempts to facilitate releases related to your connections/feelings towards others which if I remember correctly that you’re a leader/key person of a none SNV culture might also relate to people within your specific culture having problems/difficulties too i.e. these ‘others’ problems could be representing larger scale incidents of the person you are simulating related to trauma too!!!!

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    Shalin
    February 4, 2020 @ 7:57 pm

    Clive, I’ve done the latest 2 focuses anywhere from 5-15 times per day the week or so. I got thoughts of Bernie Sanders (US politician), visions of naked women/sex, old memories, all sorts of fictional stories/fantasies & often deep silence/stillness. Seems like a lot of nonsense/nothingness.

    However, I did have some interesting thoughts during focus BUT were very brief: (more details further below): vision of an octopus like structure, a honeycomb structure, a casino slot machine, email/physical-letters(paper/wood/tree angle), a pipe network/system, mobile/cellular network, lasers used for fire-walling/guarding, spanish/venus fly trap blocking/locking release of trauma/trts – in all those cases the thought/awareness was very brief – like 3-5 seconds each at most. In each instance I tried to engage further but was unable to get anything more.

    That said, I am not any closer to finding the root causes of my problems. I have my *issue list* and the focus results referred above BUT I don’t get any insights/clues from focus sessions on what is ACTUALLY CAUSING/CONTRIBUTING to any of these and/or my extreme physical imbalances.

    Below are more details of my focus results BUT these are for just a split second -5 seconds at most(so I don’t know whether my mind is deliberately creating this or whether I actually saw this?).

    -octopus like structure/creature with legs spread out in all directions. Its legs/tentacles were connected to vessels of what I thought were pre-defined-shit/traumas/trts BUT I only saw this for a very short few seconds. There was an octopus for every subtle being and it seemed responsible for some aspect of operations of our data and/or was responsible for guarding/locking-down/fire-walling access to our traumas/trts/persona/behavior/response/reactions/culture data
    -Honeycomb or fibonacci structure/network – I also saw this for a very short few seconds and its not clear to me what this network was being used for
    -Casino Slot machines – perhaps a network of casino slot machines whose pull results were contributing to *something* about us – don’t know what though.
    -Email/Paper letters (paper made from trees and used to record/store SHIT) and with email to exchange/send SHIT
    -Thought of Blue Coat Systems (one of my former employer that makes network/security appliance/technologies) – is that fire-walling me?
    -Pipe network/system (water, natural gas, oil) types – but not sure if this is our physical pipe network or the something virtual in the sim used to do *something* – don’t know what though.
    -Mobile networks – not sure what it was being used for but thought came up.
    -Lasers used for fire-walling/guarding/locking down:
    a) Film: Oceans Twelve – Lasers used to guard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wnEuOJg_dA
    b) Film: Entrapment – Lasers used to guard work of art: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX2_LCUkhDs

    -Spanish/Venus fly trap plant being used to block/lock release of trauma/trts

    —————————————————————————-

    2nd/3rd Updates:

    I also forgot to mention that there has been a LOT of manipulative activity targeting me this past week. I have this ONE FRIEND who has a knack for instigating arguments, heated discussions and debates and during those he often resorts to insults when he is losing the argument/debate/discussion.

    I am 100% sure he is being used by the SIM to target me – to draw out predefined responses from me as in combative/argumentative/agitation/flustered/anger type of responses.

    This has been happening very frequently this week over the Whatspp text message application for smartphones. We have a group chat with a lot of my friends but its ONLY this ONE friend who continues to be used as a pawn by the SIM to continuously draw out predefined responses/behavior out of me and then to fuk me up.

    Sometimes I am able to ignore it but a lot of times my response is automatic and I can’t help myself.

    We often go long periods of calm but this week seems the SIM has him on overdrive trying every which way to get a response out of me.

    I still get dreams of past girlfriends. Had one last night. I dont know if that is an *separate* sabotage artifact OR whether it is part of my trauma/personal/persona/behavior/response/trt/etc… data stores.

    Just an FYI because your latest update indicated all *separate* sabotage SHIT was basically neutralized. There may be more if those dreams are NOT part of my data stores.

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        Clive
        February 9, 2020 @ 3:32 pm

        Hi Shalin/Everyone . . . ‘good effort’ . . . in that (from the overall feedback I’m getting) we do seem to ‘JUST’ be dealing with what is within people’s persona/persona data (although some people have been deliberately subjected to very specific circumstances/efforts (mostly in VR’s) to design in factors that lock down/make difficult to unravel/deal with specific traumatic and or debilitating circumstances/experiences).

        For example, in that I’ve found myself temporarily back in some ‘shit/weird’ effects (extreme ‘head’ based stress/tension effects so bad that my ‘jaw’ would literally ‘lock’ (that I actually resolved and then haven’t had for 4/5 years now)) then this has indicated to me that my own personal/persona data is obviously being checked out with respect to all past incidents as well as any/all combinations of ‘interacting’ and or accumulating over time factors too.

        In other words, we seem to be having all angles/facets of our personal data trt stores and all factors with respect to all interactions between different experiences/circumstances as well as the progressive of accumulations over time investigated too . . . while also trying to edit/alleviate these and or get access to while specifically trying to release/reduce any/all types of trauma . . .

        Now quite often specific ‘trauma’ relates to circumstances involving other people (a relationship breakup would be a classic example) so, as part of investigations of these some people will find themselves perhaps having ‘dreams’ of these people/types of circumstances/traumas and or they may find themselves spending time thinking about and or even having direct contact with these ‘past’ people too . . .

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        However, for yourself specifically Shalin because you obviously have ’embedded’ as well as often ‘severe’ symptoms I spent time having a feel around and I’m pretty sure that your original form was (lets say) ‘kidnapped’ and then actually tortured, such that it’s likely that your embedded trauma/shit effects are the outcome of this.

        So, A) I’ve done some scans for these specific circumstances BUT B) if you yourself do any more scans it would likely help if you have the intention to directly connect to the original ‘torture’ circumstances before doing these to help deal with these ‘shit’ circumstances more effective/directly!!!!

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    Shalin
    April 1, 2020 @ 4:44 am

    FYI – Clive, this video describes your discoveries/theories on birth certificate, taxation, federal reserve, postal system etc perhaps from a different angle.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv0QG63ORkA

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    Trent
    April 17, 2020 @ 6:38 pm

    In response to “Yea, Shalin the Tibetans are ‘special/a one off’”

    Just a crazy line of thinking I had the other day..

    If this place was created/designed/etc with the intention of it being hacked then those who instigated this probably wouldn’t leave it up to chance as to whether it was actually hacked or not.. which means that you/other hackers/wsw’s/etc might’ve been influenced/directed to hack it in the first place, inclusive of all kinds of decisions you had to make along the way, things you had to research/notice/find out about/remember/piece together/etc to lead you to hack the things that are ‘meant’ to be hacked, and if this is true then you may all still be being influenced in these ways and having your efforts directed behind the scenes.

    Also if these way up over people wanted this place to be created and for it to be the way it is, then could they have decided which people would populate this MV? Could they have also directed the decision for the sim to create copies/versions of these people such that theres now a lot of those specific people? And since it’s apparently possible to move between MVs and the plan seems to be that we leave this place and go somewhere else, then could there be some larger scale plans for us after we leave? It’s fascinating to think of all these people who can move around to different mvs, meet up with all kinds of people and the potential that we could play key roles in all kinds of events that happen over very long time scales throughout the larger scale ‘game’. Things that might not have happened without us?

    I don’t know. Trains of thought that seem to piss things off / get reactions.

    Also the Egyptians, I guess them leaving wasn’t a coincidence / wasn’t really their own decision?

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        Clive
        May 8, 2020 @ 1:06 am

        Hi Trent/everyone . . . “If this place was created/designed/etc with the intention of it being hacked then those who instigated this probably wouldn’t leave it up to chance as to whether it was actually hacked or not.. which means that you/other hackers/wsw’s/etc might’ve been influenced/directed to hack it in the first place,”

        Yea, ‘EXACTLY’ Trent . . . I’ve been feeling ‘SET UP’ . . . design a shit/completely fucked up world, that’s going to get worse and worse while setting up people to figure out it’s a fake world and then get them to start to try and hack it/stop it from doing what it was designed/set up for . . .

        Sorry ‘regulars’ I’ve been in a fair amount of ‘shit/distractions’ recently (at least for me) making thinking/doing anything much more difficult . . . although I’ve managed to massively update and extend the ‘missing people’ fake reality evidence page to include some completely new angles (I’ll try and get that updated here in the next day or two ) . . . overall the upper shits that set this place up seem to be getting on analysing/tracking and trying to negate and or more likely ‘control’ the shit effects impacting us BUT so far they seem pretty useless . . . I’m now also very sure that they’re using the global (likely made up) virus scare to then have different cultures respond differently specifically to ‘maximise’ the multiples of copies of different ‘people’ behaviour diversity too!!!!

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    Shalin
    May 8, 2020 @ 3:37 am

    Clive, maybe thinking about hacking/brainstorming from Sun Tzu & Niccolo Machiavelli Art of War literature & Game Theory could be useful. If you are being setup to think in certain directions/angles then maybe its deliberate and the right path is something else.

    I’m finding the Art of War / Game Theory being the tactic being employed my Q/Trump against the Cabal/illuminati. Every step is a calculated move anticipating every permutation of the opponents steps well into the future.

    In your case the opponent are the EAAS designers. I wish I could dive more deeper into the literature & strategies but you know my extreme situation which is preventing me from doing or thinking anything properly without me head feeling like its going to explode.

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    Megan
    July 18, 2020 @ 7:47 pm

    “Now Tommy, my nature spirit awakening experience that I described here, is missing some extra weird bit’s . . . after completely leaving/walking away from the tree circle area, about a quarter mile away I feel and start to track myself being followed by a Wood Nymph whom seems to me to be in a very very sexy/seductive/enticing mood (with respect to myself) . . . which has myself ‘energetically’ determinedly sealing myself off from her . . . while doing this Joan also starts laughing while also mentioning that I’ve a very seductive Wood Nymph trailing me while also mentioning that it’s best I ‘NOT’ let her engage with myself else I might have trouble getting rid of her . .”

    Clive, in regards to your experience with the wood nymph or any other nature spirits, did many of them come off as seductive? I’m asking because recently I had been working on a Heart-center issue regarding an inappropriate encounter with an older gentleman who was significantly older than myself, and when I finally got frustrated and asked a nature spirit who has been working with me for a while, ‘What did I do wrong, where did I go wrong?’ The reply I got was like nature spirits always come off as sexual/seductive. This revelation solved my heart issue, but it got me thinking about all the other incidents I have had in the past with either married or older men, one even being my grandfather, and your comment about me being a ‘fairy/plant/healer’ type. If it is any correlation, my middle name is ‘Rose,’ and having read a few Greek myths on nature spirits and how they have been the lovers of mortals and god alike I look up the myths for roses and I find some that are associated with Aphrodite/Venus, Eros/Cupid, various prophets and saints like Muhammed and St. Francis of Assisi; leaders like Alexander the Great, Nero, Mary Queen of Scots, and Cleopatra; as well as various Popes and the Crusaders. In general, roses symbolize love and romance, but can have different meaning depending on the color and number of roses presented.

    Regarding the head/mental stuff I have been dealing with I am getting a lot of ‘psychiatric’ stuff. An example would be a few weeks ago I kind of had a mental breakdown when it came to interacting with the spirits I am working with because I can only see them in my head, the same place where all of my fantasies and daydreams and wishful thinking things, come from. I am still repressing my senses in a way. I am still punishing myself for this in some way because something tells me I should know better. I also got the strange idea that the ‘Inquisition’ dealt with the body focused subtle senses like what could be physically felt (I know a lot of their questioning methods involved physical mutilation/desecration/torture) and ‘psychiatric/psychological’ dealt with the head/mental space and what one saw, thought, believed about the world and about themselves.

    I will say, by the way I act around other people and how awkward and wrong I feel interacting with others, I wouldn’t be surprised if people think that I am mentally ill or insane. I mumble to myself a lot, especially when I’m struggling with a particularly difficult issue, and I know a co-worker of mine heard me say ‘I hate myself’ at one point. But some part of me can’t help but hate me because I keep fucking up my relationships. I don’t and can’t interact normally with others around me, and when I have obviously made a fool out of myself publicly, I hate myself even more. I’m guessing this has a lot to deal with the missing people manipulations/interactions you’ve talked about.

    I am still being stopped from learning/understanding/comprehending hard/difficult concepts or maintaining an interest in things I want to research/learning.

    Do you have an update as to how things are going? I’m guessing the Royal Shits Up on High are still trying to get their poop in a group.

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        Clive
        July 22, 2020 @ 12:40 am

        Re seductive nature spirits – it was just that first encounter Megan, the upper lot are still doing what they want, I’ve had another 2 physical symptom sets, but it’s now obvious that with me they’re ‘adjusting’ my reactions to these so that I barely notice them – so we’re still is the same phase, with the upper lot doing what they want adjustment wise with respect to their own objectives!!!

        Also, as I’ve not really had any significant issues they seem to be using me as a blank sheet to subject me to specific ‘one off’ things that would be ‘lost’ amongst most other peoples full scale of issues/debilitations.

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    Xin Ying
    June 5, 2021 @ 9:14 am

    I was kind of directed to look at the halo series and read about the forerunner culture which led me to looking up the section about precursors. When I saw the design of them I thought they kind of look like crab people and I tried projecting that image in front of me and I found that i resonated with the image and found myself being comfortable with it having an androgynous gender.
    https://www.halopedia.org/Precursor

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Historical Past Language Based Evidence of Ourselves as an Immortal Soul Form Incarnated into Flesh

November 20, 2019

I’ve updated the very,very bottom/last few paragraphs ‘WAREHOUSE’ STORAGE, MAINTENANCE & PROTECTION/SECURITY ‘COSTS/CHARGE’ . . . the warehouse/birth certificate tax it’s for ‘warehouse/storage’ of your subtle/soul/spirit form!!!!

Based on what I’ve presented on previous pages/sections of this series, we are all ‘subtle’ beings or what I’d describe as an energetic/frequency/resonance based life form, that (in our terms) is often locally referred to as the soul or subtle/spirit form.

These subtle beings originated within and hence then ‘appear’ to be natural to an exceptionally different higher frequency/resonance based ‘subtle’ strata, which is just one of a set of stratas that are part of the base characteristics of the entire meta universe’s base structure/configuration.

However, sometime in their (and then our) very, very distant past, ancestral versions of ourselves (the spirit/soul form that is interfaced to the human body avatar) very, very gradually becomes aware of another separate as well as very different parallel to themselves ‘universe’ strata, which in being way, way slower in base matter/frequency terms compared to there own, is then the ‘physical’ universe strata, which (as I described on an earlier page here: The ‘REAL’ Subtle Energetic Body Anatomy of our Androgynous Soul Form & its Differences Compared to the Physical Human Body Explained), they then start to remotely investigate and research what to themselves as an energetic resonance based life form living within a none physical/resonance based ‘subtle’ environment would be an exceptionally strange/alien place/environment (at least compared to there own).

However, over time these physical strata/physical universe investigations of (in most cases) generally inert/lifeless physical worlds/planets eventually results in them finding one (that we know of) that is presenting a vast variety of physical life. On then directly remotely investigating and researching such a world this have result in themselves gradually them learning how to interface themselves more and more ‘coherently/seamlessly’ to different physical animal forms, such that it likely wouldn’t take them long before they started to interface more and more of their subtle populations to some perhaps very different physical animal forms while also then more and more seriously considering and then eventually starting a physical civilisation/culture!!!!

If any subtle culture did consider doing this, it is then also very, very likely that they’d interface some of their subtle population to a variety of animals as part of setting up one or more very small physical earth world communities perhaps also including some wandering tribes as a small herd of horses or as a pack of wolves for example!!!

In them, then having members of their subtle population spending permanent time within a few likely very small communities and or as mobile tribes they’d also then begin to figure out all of the dangers/problems associated with different environments and habitats including for example dangerous predators, poisonous plants, water sources etc. etc. while also giving the subtle researchers focused on the physical ‘colony’ efforts and those working on the ‘experience an incarnated physical life’ project trying to figure out how to support/facilitate their subtle forms to adapt to the physical environment and to being interfaced to an animal form as well as getting used to the planet’s day and night cycle as well of the yearly seasons that are an inherent part of a physical planet’s natural cycles while they also learn to more and more adapt the subtle form and or the interfacing to help them synchronise with these as well as of the habits, instincts and life cycles of the animal specie types that they’d have volunteered or chosen to be interfaced to . . .

If you’ve managed to take in what I’ve been describing above then you’ll now be aware that it is exceptionally likely (as I’ve regularly pointed out elsewhere) that the human body you are presently using the eyes of to read this with is essentially nothing more than a remote vehicle, an ‘avatar’ being driven around by an ‘intelligent’ none physical energetic/resonance based ‘organism’ which coincidentally, is what is commonly described or labelled as the soul, the spirit and or the subtle body form here . . .
The Early ‘Common Knowledge’ Of The Immortal Soul/Spirit/Subtle Form & the Subtle Environment Origins Problem

In this respect, the closer you are to the earlier past times when the first human and or other animals were chosen as part of efforts to interface a much larger population of subtle beings/soul form to the physical earth environment then the more aware these incarnating ‘pioneers’ will absolutely/utterly of themselves as absolutely being a very, very different none physical, subtle/spirit form that has been interfaced/incarnated into a specific physical animal form, very specifically to have an animal avatar experience of living on the surface of a physical planet/world.

It is in fact exceptionally likely that during the earliest ‘moving the subtle population’ to the physical efforts that all of these whom then find themselves interfaced to any physical animal form would actually then be DIRECTLY/EXPLICITLY aware of their immortal subtle being/form origins ‘AND’ they’d also absolutely know that they have been deliberately interfaced to some physical animal form (which could be human or another animal) which, unlike themselves ISN’T ACTUALLY ‘IMMORTAL’, but has a very, very limited life span, at least compared to any immortal being that may have already been around for a few millions of years!!!

In a very basic sense if you are interfacing an invisible/cannot easily be seen/viewed spirit/soul form specifically to one or more physical animal species, very specifically to use this animal as a remote vehicle/avatar and particularly as part of offering the spirit/soul form an incarnated physical/join my physical civilisation life/experience, then isn’t it exceptionally likely that some if not many ‘inherent/normal’ characteristics/details of the immortal/androgynous/asexual subtle/spirit/soul form will be reflected/represented within early physical language!!!!

In this respect isn’t it actually very, very, very likely that early language would be directly as well as exceptionally ‘explicit’ with respect to having words describing both their early circumstances as well as at least some of the characteristics of the very, very different none physical as well as immortal spirit/soul form that now found itself interfaced to a human or other physical animal ‘vehicle’!!!!
ISN’T THIS ‘EXCEPTIONALLY’ LIKELY!!!!!
Some Base Descriptions & Definitions of the Spirit, Soul Form, Being Made into ‘Flesh’ by being Interfaced to a Physical Animal Form

In this respect, it’s possible that some of you whom that are reading this whom are currently interfaced to a human avatar may then actually be aware of the use of and or the meanings of a whole load of often well used terms (at least within certain circles) that have been and or are still currently being used to describe facets of the none human, none physical ‘intelligence’ that is actually what allows humans here to at least have the potential to be intelligent . . . a level of intelligence that maybe actually (for example) allows you to read characters on a screen, presented in a form of writings that are attempting to convey certain meanings and or concepts/ideas and particularly as part of trying to define and or explain certain specific things to others . . . which after reading, you can then attempt to ‘THINK’ about and or then ‘EVALUATE’ . . . which in some cases for certain people can easily be made difficult because in that all of your ‘real’ thinking processes are literally going on SOMEWHERE ELSE then your ability to take in and evaluate anything can then via the bi-directional interfacing be manipulated and particularly via systems designed into the interfacing and or your none physical real ‘spirit/soul/subtle forms ‘thinking’ processes.

Maybe an example of the effects of this being done would be that you’ve read this page and also the previous one BUT you didn’t relate what was written to any of the terms I’m going to point out below never mind not having at least some ‘musings’ related to specific words and or early ‘language’ possibilities which would perhaps imply that you are being managed to NOT THINK OF WELL USED AS WELL AS OBVIOUS ‘RELATED’ INFORMATION & OR DESCRIPTORS/TERMS that are actually ‘evidence’ of what I’ve been pointing out/trying to make more explicit within these pages!!!!

PLEASE NOTE: For the terms and definitions below I have searched the internet and taken and then blended together descriptions which are presented on sites offering various dictionary and or etymology (past language origins) references/definitions!!!!

Base Descriptions/Definition of the Soul: A substantial entity believed to be that in each person which lives, feels, thinks and wills. The soul, in many religious, philosophical, and mythological traditions, is the incorporeal essence of a living being. Soul or psyche (in Ancient Greek is equivalent “to breathe”) comprises the mental abilities of a living being: reason, character, feeling, consciousness, memory, perception, thinking, etc.

Sometimes said to mean originally “coming from or belonging to the sea,” because that was supposed to be the stopping place of the soul before birth or after death [Barnhart]; if so, it would be from Proto-Germanic *saiwaz (see sea).

For some it’s the spiritual or animating or vital principle embodied in human beings, all rational and spiritual beings, or the universe. It gives ‘life’ the vital principle and hence then is what ‘gives life’ to physical organisms!!! Plato’s view of the soul: Plato considered the psyche/soul to be the essence of a person, being that which decides how we behave. He considered this essence to be an incorporeal, eternal occupant of our being. Plato says that even after death, the soul exists and is able to think. He believed that as bodies die, the soul is continually reborn in subsequent bodies.

COMMENT/S: Again we’ve a lot of what can only be described as indirect and for the most part difficult to conceptually understand, never mind the need to interpret/decode ‘symbolic’ terms/descriptions presented within the above.

As described on the previous page the subtle body form is vaguely equivalent to a dynamic ball of plasma/’energy’ i.e. it is frequency/resonance based and hence then is exceptionally different to and then actually very hard to describe in ‘physical’ only conceptual terms.

However, let me try and do this now by specifically using ‘BREATH’ to ‘illustrate’ this ‘energetic/resonance/frequency based none physical’ form in a way that pretty accurately ‘symbolically’ represents the base ‘energetic/frequency’ characteristics of this form!!!! Basically, if on a very cold day you step outside and take in a large breath of air and then after a few seconds deliberately breathe out through your mouth then you will actually ‘SEE’ your breath because it temporarily becomes visible as an amorphous semi transparent cloud of temporarily elevated in temperature (compared to the surrounding air) dynamically moving ‘air and likely water’ particles . . . which also ‘fits’ with the Atman reference further below too . . .

Base Descriptions/Definition of Incorporeal Essence: (usage begins in 15th century) Middle English incorporealle, from Anglo-French incorporel, from Latin incorporeus, from in- + corporeus corporeal. Not corporeal : 1. having no material body or form but a spiritual form, OR relating to, or constituting a right that is based on property (such as bonds or patents). Synonyms (words of equivalent meaning): bodiless, ethereal, formless, immaterial, insubstantial, nonmaterial, nonphysical, spiritual, unbodied, unsubstantial. Antonyms (words of opposite meaning): bodily, corporeal, material, physical, substantial.

Atman (n.): in Hindu philosophy, the self or soul, 1785, from Sanskrit atma “essence, breath, soul,” from PIE *etmen “breath” (a root found in Sanskrit and Germanic; source also of Old English æðm, Dutch adem, Old High German atum “breath,” Old English eþian, Dutch ademen “to breathe”).

COMMENT/S: Let me point out a few conceptually ‘weird’ things here!!!! You essentially have a subtle, spirit, soul form/entity/species that is both directly and automatically taking in ‘nutrition/sustenance’ directly from the environment. Hence, in terms of finding a ‘best fit/closest physical earth life equivalent’, and particularly in human/earth conceptual terms related to life, would make the soul/spirit/subtle form equivalent to something like a plant (or better still maybe a ‘tree’) specifically because trees take in ‘radiation/emissions’ from the sun (to use as ‘energy’) as well as invisible components directly from the air (specifically CO2 as ‘food’). Hence then a ‘tree’ would perhaps be the closest equivalent in ‘life on earth’ terms to the spirit/soul/subtle forms food/nutritional and or energy intake abilities/capacity . . .
Dantes 7th Circle of Hell Being a Tree!!!!

Strangely I couldn’t help notice that within Dante’s circles of hell descriptions, he describes one (the 7th hell of ‘Violence Against the Self) that has people being made into a tree. Strangely, in that Dante describes quite a few of what are in many ways, way more conceptually realistic ‘hells’ BUT then suddenly throws into the mix a hell where people are made into a tree . . . AND . . . remember what I mentioned about the management via the interfacing . . . strangely there is a deafening ‘SILENCE’ around this possibility, there is never any ‘WTF’ response along the lines of . . .

    “How could anyone be made into a tree or experience ‘Being a TREE'”!!!!

Which shouldn’t come as a surprise should it when ‘conceptually’ the only way you can become a tree is to be interfaced to one, which would be no more difficult than what has been done to interface you reading this to your human avatar/vehicle.

Perhaps it would be more realistic to translate the ‘Violence Against the Self’ as being despair/desperation due to themselves no longer being a subtle form living within the subtle environment, within which you don’t have to drink water regularly, nor eat food 2 or 3 times a day, just to continue to live, nor do subtle/spirit forms need to work to buy food either!!!

In this respect it’s then very possible that an aware of themselves as a subtle form interfaced to a human would perhaps prefer to be what they really are while also perhaps preferring to live within its natural/original subtle environment i.e. living as a subtle spirit form that automatically takes in all sustenance needs automatically from its environment while never ever having to work regularly to ‘live’ either . . . such that, is it not possible. maybe even likely that some, whom on finding themselves incarnated into the physical (perhaps even forcibly, perhaps they were press ganged/kidnapped in the subtle!!!!) might find themselves at least ‘unconsciously/subconsciously’ becoming desperate with respect to finding themselves living a physical life . . . perhaps even to the point of becoming suicidal . . . !!!!

However, if they did then kill themselves/their physical body (which in their terms is perhaps nothing more than a remote physical vehicle/avatar used to engage with the earth’s physical environment) . . . and hence then are perhaps doing this specifically to escape perhaps ‘some’ hellish physical circumstances . . . then how much of a piss take do you think it would be for them to then find themselves interfaced into the physical yet again, but this time as a tree . . . which, I strongly suspect they’d find a lot harder to kill/de-interface themselves from at least compared to a human animal form . . . despite that they are also finding themselves as a tree experiencing circumstances equivalent to being tortured . . . ‘I quote’ . . .

    ” . . . are then fed upon by Harpies, hideous clawed birds with the faces of women; the trees are only permitted to speak when broken and bleeding . . . Dante learns that these suicides, unique among the dead, will not be corporally resurrected after the Final Judgement since they threw their bodies away; instead, they will maintain their bushy form, with their own corpses hanging from the thorny limbs . . . “

WHAT A PISS TAKE!!!!

Strangely however, we actually have films depicting intelligent trees (don’t tell me you’ve magically forgotten about the “Day of the Triffids” (as both a film and series)). Strangely however, if you actually were living as any type of tree you’d expect to produce ‘blossom’ i.e. flowers, in which case anyone here that’s lets say ‘representing’ someone interfaced to a tree would perhaps feel compelled to wear ‘flowery’ clothes perhaps specifically at times related to the tree’s flowering time/season!!!

Coincidentally Eddie Izzard (comedian/actor) likes to wear flowery clothes, even more coincidentally he was one of the main actors in the ‘Day of the Triffids’ series!!!!

Strangely, basic observation abilities and or the ability to make connections between directly related topics/experiences/FACTS doesn’t often seem to be a strong point within our weird reality here!!! DOES IT!!!

Can you think of any even more bizarre as well as DIRECTLY/STARKLY SHOCKING ‘people as trees’ possibilities!!!! Strangely, if you cannot, then perhaps this means that that you are then completely unaware that we actually DO HAVE PEOPLE BEING VISIBLY DEPICTED/PRESENTED AS TREES HERE!!!

I’m being deadly serious about this!!!! We ‘do’ have people being presented as if they are a tree here!!!

Here are some pictures:

If you make an effort to read about how their condition impacts themselves then you’ll become aware that what they are experiencing is HELLISH!!!!

    Strangely, in myself making an effort to read about these people/this condition I’ve not once noticed any scientist/academic/doctor type mention how this condition makes those with this condition have many visible characteristics that are strongly reminiscent of a tree . . . hence then it’s not a surprise that I’ve also not noticed anyone correlate this condition to Dante’s 7th circle of hell either . . . ‘basic observational abilities’ coupled with wide ranging scale of interests/knowledge . . . often reveals all sorts of very interesting correlations . . .

More correlation weird experiences/evidence relating to incarnated ‘people’ as subtle beings can be found on this page here:  Details of our Subtle/Spirit Form, the Subtle Environment & the Various/Many Anomalous Experiences Substituting for these Here

Base Description/Definition of ‘Spirit’: Meaning “supernatural immaterial creature; angel, demon; an apparition, invisible corporeal being of an airy nature” is attested from mid-14c.; from late 14c. as “a ghost” (see ghost (n.)). Your spirit is the part of you that is not physical and that consists of your character and feelings. A person’s spirit is the immaterial intelligent or sentient part of a person i.e. the ‘non-physical part of them’ that is believed to remain alive after the death of the physical body. When someone dies it is the ‘spirit’ that leaves the body, which is sometimes seen and then described as a ghost or spirit form by others (that have usually been close to them)!!! The use of the word spirit then also refers to a ghost (as a supernatural being).

COMMENT/S: . . . I’d yet again like to point out that animals are driven in a base sense by instinct/instincts/drives rather than ‘intelligence’, never mind that in the above it is made clear that it is the ‘spirit’ which is the ‘immaterial’ intelligence i.e. it is this ‘spirit’ form what actually confers the ‘intelligence’ on the human form!!!
Past Word Origins & Definitions of Psyche, Psychology & Psychic

Base Descriptions/Definition of the Psyche: (plural psyches is a shortened form of psychology, from French psychologie, from Latin psychologia) denotes the human soul, mind, or spirit. (Psyche). The human mind as the central force in thought, emotion, and behavior of an individual. Psychology: The science of the human soul; specifically, the systematic or scientific knowledge of the powers and functions of the human soul, so far as they are known by consciousness; a treatise on the human soul. Psychology: the science conversant about the phenomena of the mind, or conscious subject, or self.

Past Origins of Psyche (n.): 1640s, “animating spirit,” from Latin psyche, from Greek psykhē “the soul, mind, spirit; life, one’s life, the invisible animating principle or entity which occupies and directs the physical body; understanding, the mind (as the seat of thought), faculty of reason” (personified as Psykhē, the beloved of Eros), also “ghost, spirit of a dead person;” probably akin to psykhein “to blow, cool,” from PIE root *bhes- “to blow, to breathe” (source also of Sanskrit bhas-), “Probably imitative” [Watkins].

Also in ancient Greek, “departed soul, spirit, ghost,” and often represented symbolically as a butterfly or moth (a ‘flying through the air’ creature). The word had extensive sense development in Platonic philosophy and Jewish-influenced theological writing of St. Paul (compare spirit (n.)). Meaning “human soul” is from 1650s. In English, psychological sense “mind,” is attested by 1910.

Past Origins of Psychic (adj.): 1872, “of or pertaining to the human soul” (earlier psychical, 1640s), from Greek psykhikos “of the soul, spirit, or mind”.

COMMENT/S: the above collection of definitions will give you some idea of how over time ‘original’ in the past and perhaps way more ‘ACCURATE’ definitions/meanings are superseded by modern and in fact more and more misleading ‘science’ based definitions all very gradually making the original and hence then way more ‘ACCURATE’ past/historical context/meanings of specific terms less and less obvious!!!

As the soul/spirit/subtle form (as described on the previous page) is always in the air i.e. it is always ‘flying’ as there is no ground then representing or referring to the departed ‘spirit’ as a flying creature such as a moth or butterfly is in a conceptual sense pretty accurate/realistic!!!!

Let me give you some yet more ‘interesting’ words to think about . . .
Past Word Origins & Definitions Related to being Being ‘Animate/an Animal Form’ that requires to continually ‘BREATHE’ to Continue to Live/Stay Alive!!!

Animate (adj.): “alive,” late 14c., from Latin animatus, past participle of animare “give breath to,” also “to endow with a particular spirit, to give courage to, enliven,” from anima “life, breath” (from PIE root *ane- “to breathe”).

Exanimate (adj.): “inanimate, lifeless,” 1530s, from Latin exanimatus “lifeless, dead,” past participle of exanimare “to deprive of air or breath; tire, fatigue; to deprive of life; to terrify,” from ex “out” (see ex-) + animare “give breath to” (see animate (v.)). Related: Exanimation.

Pneuma (n.): used in English in various sense, from Greek pneuma “a blowing, a wind, blast; breeze; influence; breathed air, breath; odor, scent; spirit of a person; inspiration, a spirit, ghost,” from pnein “to blow, to breathe,” from PIE root *pneu- “to breathe,” of imitative origin (compare Greek pnoe “breath,” pnoia “breathing;” Old English fnora “sneezing,” fnæran “to snort”).

*ane- Proto-Indo-European root meaning “to breathe.”: It forms all or part of: anemo-; anemometer; anemone; anima; animadversion; animadvert; animal; animalcule; animalistic; animate; animation; animatronic; anime; animism; animosity; animus; Enid; equanimity; longanimity; magnanimous; pusillanimous; unanimous.

It is the hypothetical source of/evidence for its existence is provided by: Sanskrit aniti “breathes;” Greek anemos “wind;” Latin animus “rational soul, mind, life, mental powers, consciousness, sensibility; courage, desire,” anima “living being, soul, mind, disposition, passion, courage, anger, spirit, feeling;” Old Irish anal, Welsh anadl “breath,” Old Irish animm “soul;” Gothic uzanan “to exhale,” Old Norse anda “to breathe,” Old English eðian “to breathe;” Old Church Slavonic vonja “smell, breath;” Armenian anjn “soul.”

COMMENT/S: How many different references/angles of distant past historical descriptions do you need before it sinks in that the soul/spirit is describing in terms of ‘breath’ as well as ‘feelings and sensitivities’ i.e. we have terms and descriptions being used to categorise ‘something’ that don’t relate/equate to a physical/material form BUT they do relate to ‘something’ equivalent to an amorphous energetic cloud like being/form that in then being INTERFACED to the human form is then ‘animating’ the human form never mind while also very like being responsible for the human’s level of intelligence (at least compared to the other physical ‘animals’ that we have here)!!!!

Base descriptions of the Higher Self & Divine Self: Higher self is a term associated with multiple belief systems, but its basic premise describes an eternal, omnipotent, conscious, and intelligent being, who is one’s real self. Blavatsky formally defined the higher self as “Atma the inseparable ray of the Universe and one self”.

Many people refer to the levels of your being using such words as higher self, soul, spirit, and Divine Self. It is also referred to as the Divine Self, ‘spirit’, God/ess and for some ‘The Presence’ or the ‘I AM PRESENCE’, all of which are coincidentally referring to the source or essence of all life. The Divine Self is described by some as within you, while being as eternal, infinite consciousness, free from all attachments and beyond all action; it is described as constant and unchanging, birth less and deathless.

COMMENT/S: Strangely in describing what is presented here as the higher or divine self and or spirit in these terms (as both birth less and deathless/eternal) this then directly implies that this form/being/organism neither experiences being born nor does it experience itself as ever dying either. Which actually then directly implies that it is an organism that is not only immortal but for it to not experience being born (which is the outcome of sexual conjugation/propagation) then directly implies that it is an organism that actually propagates by ‘dividing’ itself, very specifically because this is the only form of propagation that produces offspring that then aren’t actually given birth to i.e. they are not then actually ‘born’.

This Self/the Divine self (likely called divine because it’s both immortal AND its view point is above ‘everything’) can only be known through a direct experience of ‘It’ and cannot be known through the rational mind. It is described as the Oneness from which all life comes, and to which all life returns. Your soul is also described as living on the soul plane/level, a dimension of light and vibration . . .

COMMENT/S: It was hard, pretty much impossible for me to get my head around interpreting the above until I looked up the old/older meaning of ‘Life’ . . .

Life (n.): Old English life (dative lif) “animated corporeal existence; lifetime, period between birth and death; the history of an individual from birth to death, written account of a person’s life; way of life (good or bad); condition of being a living thing, opposite of death; spiritual existence imparted by God, through Christ, to the believer,” from Proto-Germanic *leiban (source also of Old Norse lif “life, body,” Old Frisian, Old Saxon lif “life, person, body,” Dutch lijf “body,” Old High German lib “life,” German Leib “body”), properly “continuance, perseverance,” from PIE root *leip- “to stick, adhere.”

COMMENT/S: Well, the above makes it exceptionally clear that the early meaning of the word ‘life’ specifically only refers to those living an ‘animated corporeal existence’ i.e. the word ‘life’ wasn’t originally used to describe any/all ‘PHYSICAL’ ANIMAL FORMS/PHYSICAL LIVING THINGS, rather the word ‘LIFE’ was only used to refer to those that are incarnated into flesh i.e. it only refers to those that are ‘interfaced’ to a physical animal form!!!!

Now, if you/we ‘really’ are a form that is equivalent to ‘breath/air’ which is then interfaced i.e. incarnated i.e. is made to be ‘in flesh’ then wouldn’t it be interesting to see what past definitions of these specific words reveal!!!
Past Word Origins & Definitions of Corporeal, Becoming Flesh/Carnal & Incarnate, Incarnating & Ghost

Flesh (n.): Old English flæsc “flesh, meat, muscular parts of animal bodies; body (as opposed to soul).

COMMENT/S: Please note that the above sentence was copied and pasted as is (i.e. it included the (as opposed to soul) part), implying that in the distant past it was common/normal to view yourself as ‘not of the flesh’ BUT as an incarnated soul/spirit form!!!

Carnal (adj.): c. 1400, “physical, human, mortal,” from Old French carnal and directly from Latin carnalis “fleshly, of the flesh,” from carnis “of the flesh,” genitive of caro “flesh, meat,” “flesh,” originally “a piece of flesh,” from PIE root *sker- (1) “to cut.” . . Meaning “sensual, pertaining to the passions and appetites of the flesh” is from early 15c.; that of “worldly, sinful, not spiritual” is from mid-15c. Carnal knowledge “sexual intercourse” is attested from early 15c. and was in legal use by 1680s. Medieval Latin carnalis meant “natural, of the same blood,” a sense sometimes found in Middle English carnal.

COMMENT/S: Just in case you’ve already forgotten or haven’t read the previous page, then ‘we’ as a ‘subtle/soul/spirit’ type of life form/species are actually completely none sexual specifically because the soul/spirit form is actually androgynous i.e. the soul/spirit form doesn’t have any body gender/sexuality differentiation. Hence then, in being interfaced/incarnated into an animal type that is of two genders/sexes, means that these incarnated forms would then automatically gain/experience so called ‘carnal knowledge’. Basically, an/all interfaced/incarnated ‘spirit/soul/subtle’ forms would gain knowledge/experience of HOW PHYSICAL ANIMALS REPRODUCE i.e. via direct ‘sexual intercourse/coupling’ . . .

This would seem like a good place to check out terms/words related to ‘incarnate/incarnation’!!!!

Incarnate (adj.): late 14c., “embodied in flesh, in human or bodily form” (of souls, spirits, etc.), from Late Latin incarnatus “made flesh,” a frequent word among early Christian writers, past-participle adjective from Latin incarnare “to make flesh” (see incarnation). Of qualities or abstractions, 1530s.

Incarnate (v.): “clothe or embody in flesh,” 1530s, a back-formation from incarnation, or else from Late Latin incarnatus “made flesh,” past participle of incarnare “to make flesh; be made flesh.” Meaning “make or form flesh” (as in healing a wound) is from 1670s. Related: Incarnated; incarnating.

Incarnation (n.): c. 1300, “embodiment of God in the person of Christ,” from Old French incarnacion “the Incarnation” (12c.), from Late Latin incarnationem (nominative incarnatio), “act of being made flesh” (used by Church writers especially in reference to God in Christ; source also of Spanish encarnacion, Italian incarnazione), noun of action from past participle stem of Late Latin incarnari “be made flesh,” from in- “in” (from PIE root *en “in”) + caro (genitive carnis) “flesh” (originally “a piece of flesh,” from PIE root *sker- (1) “to cut”). Glossed in Old English as inflæscnes, inlichomung. As “person or thing that is the embodiment” (of some quality, deity, etc.) from 1742.

COMMENT/S: Let me make an effort to be very explicit about our very distant past scene/circumstances for yourself . . . we have well used embedded terms within ‘western’ society making it very, very clear that we are forms that are being incarnated into flesh i.e. we are ‘being made flesh’ which is an apt description if you/we are all actually ‘something else’ that is from ‘somewhere else’ that is then being directly interfaced to an animal form!!!!
Historical, Distant Past Word Origins & Definitions of Immortal, Immortality as well as Mortal

Base Description/Definition of ‘Ghost’: The spirit of a dead person, sometimes represented as a pale, almost transparent image of that person that some people believe appears to people who are alive. An apparition of a dead person which is believed to appear or become manifest to the living, typically as a nebulous image.

Ghost language origins: Old English gast “breath; good or bad spirit, angel, demon; person, man, human being,” in Biblical use “soul, spirit, life,” it is the English representative of the usual West Germanic word for “supernatural being.” In Christian writing in Old English it is used to render Latin spiritus (see spirit (n.)), a sense preserved in Holy Ghost. Sense of “disembodied spirit of a dead person,” especially imagined as wandering among the living or haunting them, is attested from late 14c. and returns the word toward its likely prehistoric sense.

Also, most Indo-European words for “soul, spirit” also double with reference to supernatural spirits. Many have a base sense of “appearance” (such as Greek phantasma; French spectre; Polish widmo, from Old Church Slavonic videti “to see;” Old English scin, Old High German giskin, originally “appearance, apparition,” related to Old English scinan, Old High German skinan “to shine”). Other concepts are in French revenant, literally “returning” (from the other world).

COMMENT/S: . . . I’d also like to point out that we have a lot of well recorded/documented cases of people whom have died (BUT just temporarily before being resuscitated/revived) whom have themselves then described having a viewpoint that is very, very obviously outside of their temporarily dead human body form, including of themselves seeing their own body being dealt with by doctors/nurses coincidentally in such detail that some of whom have had these OUT OF THEIR PHYSICAL BODY experiences can recall both the activities AND in some cases the conversations of those present around their recently dead body. . . . in other words we not only have people being ‘seen’ as ghosts BUT we have people having experiences of essentially BEING A GHOST too . . . both of these types of experience directly imply that the ‘intelligence’ exhibited by the human form is then independent/separate from the human body form itself which also then directly implies that it is this ‘ghost/spirit’ form that actually confers the ‘intelligence’ on the human animal/body . . .

I am sure that within my own personal lifetime ghosts have gone from being depicted as a white transparent amorphous i.e. not ‘really’ human body form that was generally depicted as a flowing as well as a floating off the floor form. In doing some image searches and looking for images of past ghosts as compared to how they are presented in modern/recent films . . . this gradual transformation shift of this form from a just slightly vaguely human floating in the air (sometimes half in or half out of walls or flying through them) as an indistinct wavy ‘edges’ indistinctly flowing/flying type figure to more and more being depicted as nothing more than a transparent human now standing pretty solidly on the floor . . .
Historical, Distant Past Word Origins & Definitions of Immortal, Immortality as well as Mortal

Mortality (n.): mid-14c., mortalite, “condition of being subject to death or the necessity of dying,” from Old French mortalite “massacre, slaughter; fatal illness; poverty; destruction” (12c.) and directly from Latin mortalitem (nominative mortalitas) “state of being mortal; subjection to death,” from mortalis “subject to death, mortal,” from PIE root *mer- “to rub away, harm” (also “to die” and forming words referring to death and to beings subject to death).

Immortal (adj.): late 14c., “deathless,” from Latin immortalis “deathless, undying” (of gods), “imperishable, endless” (of fame, love, work, etc.), from assimilated form of in- “not, opposite of” (see in- (1)) + mortalis “mortal” (from PIE root *mer- “to rub away, harm,” also “to die” and forming words referring to death and to beings subject to death). In reference to fame, literature, etc., “unceasing, destined to endure forever, never to be forgotten, lasting a long time,” attested from early 15c. (also in classical Latin). As a noun, “an immortal being,” from 1680s.

COMMENT/S: Yet again (as with a lot of specific word meanings over time in the distant past) notice how the use/meaning of the word is over time being shifted sideways so that it ends up describing/referring to something that is actually very different i.e. in this case from describing an immortal being to someone that is immortalised because of ‘fame’!!!! Below there is another example of this type of gradual creeping shift with respect to word meanings with respect to another angle of spirit word which is as a ‘ghost’ . . .

Immortality (n.): mid-14c., “deathlessness,” from Old French immortalité (13c.) and directly from Latin immortalitatem (nominative immortalitas) “deathlessness, endless life,” also “imperishable fame,” from immortalis “undying” (see immortal). Of fame, etc., “quality of being permanent,” early 15c.

COMMENT/S: Can any academic explain as to why an essentially mentally, conceptually and ‘intellectually’ limited animal form that in needing to eat regularly including likely hunting and then killing and then eating animals AND whom is also very likely part of some tribe such that they will all then be very, very, very, VERY aware of death BEING UNAVOIDABLE and specifically because either naturally or via sabre tooth tiger etc encounters they themselves and or their friends/people they know are regularly killed actually then somehow, seemingly ‘magically’ actually even come up with the concept of immortality never mind of then conceiving of ANYTHING AT ALL as being ‘immortal’ . . . never mind that this ‘immortal’ concept is used to DIRECTLY REFER TO SOME ASPECT OF ‘THEMSELVES’!!!!

Why would any intelligent animal form that arose on a physical world and hence then absolutely only have experience of natural ‘physical’ phenomena as well as a built in animal experience/instincts mostly focused on surviving generation after generation have or develop concepts/terms/words such a mortal and or immortal, never mind of actually attributing a part of themselves as being ‘immortal’ which means a part that always lives is alive for ever and ever and ever!!!!

>> THIS DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL <<
Past Word Usage & Definitions of both Avatar & also Deity = Natural Gods

>> REMEMBER WHAT I WROTE AT THE VERY TOP OF THIS PAGE!!!! <<

“In a very basic sense if you are interfacing an invisible remote spirit/soul form specifically to one or more physical animal species, very specifically to use these these animals as a remote vehicle/avatar as part of offering the spirit/soul form an incarnated physical/join my physical civilisation life/experience, then isn’t it exceptionally likely that some if not many ‘inherent/normal’ characteristics/details of the immortal/androgynous/asexual subtle form in being ‘interfaced’ to one of more physical animal species will be reflected/represented within early physical language and then writing efforts!!!!”

Avatar (n.): 1784, “descent of a Hindu deity to earth in an incarnate or tangible form,” from Sanskrit avatarana “descent” (of a deity to the earth in incarnate form), from ava- “off, down” (from PIE root *au- (2) “off, away”) + base of tarati “(he) crosses over,” from PIE root *tere- (2) “cross over, pass through, overcome.” also meaning “concrete embodiment of something abstract” is from 1815.

COMMENT/S: all/everything that what I write above on this page is basically repeatedly suggesting that we are a none physical self existing spirit form BUT in now being incarnate such that we are now currently wearing a flesh overcoat . . . until we physically die . . . after which we apparently ‘cross over’ . . . perhaps ‘cross over’ means we’d be back at least temporarily into the subtle strata . . . before perhaps being born again/reincarnated which essentially means being re-interfaced to another animal form!!!

Overall, from the above, we have descriptions of a form that is described as being interfaced to a human/animal being directly described as having some ‘GOD LIKE’ characteristics including being immortal while also being described as something higher i.e. it’s conceptually described as something that was originally above i.e. higher which is then subjected to a descent. In other words, specifically from this ‘forms’ perspective/viewpoint it’s being described as being shifted in sensory/perception and perhaps awareness terms from a higher realm/place to a lower realm/place, which is also described as it ‘crossing over’ too, which is yet another way of stating that perhaps in perceptual/sensory and or awareness terms these were all originally focused ‘somewhere’ on a higher level BUT now are focused somewhere else that’s described as lower!!!!

However, if they maintained the physical worlds research/investigation teams and or those directing these whom originally both helped investigate the physical planet as well as designing the early physical world ‘incarnation’ interfacing to actually have them remotely view/look out for those they’d incarnated i.e. which would have them all directly viewing/remotely viewing all those they incarnated from above, i.e they’d then SPECIFICALLY HAVE A VIEW POINT EQUIVALENT TO THEM BEING IN THE SO CALLED ‘HEAVENS’!!!

Keep in mind that the ‘incarnated’ population are attempting to learn to drive/handle what to them is an alien life form (which for all intents and purposes you could describe as being an ‘avatar’) while also then trying to get used to living as this animal within an exceptionally different/alien environment which includes it having an regular LIGHT DAY/DARK NIGHT repeating all of the time cycle. Hence then, isn’t it likely that the upper subtle forms monitoring the incarnated population and or any monitoring/evaluating tech/systems would warn them as and when needed? Including, helping them to avoid accidents and or dangerous places, isn’t it likely that they’d even give them direct ‘severe weather’ warnings too!!! Although isn’t it possible that they might intervene if those below were for example about to be attacked by a sabre toothed tiger or fall down a well hidden hole or be at risk of drowning etc. etc . . .

If upper subtle forms and or monitoring systems acted as ‘guardians/advisors and or protectors’ with perhaps a specific directive to step in during physical life threatening circumstances then wouldn’t it appear as if they’d have unbelievable, verging on ‘magical’ abilities, such that they’d perhaps appear as being ‘God’ like at least from the perspective of those that were part of the normal less knowledgeable members of the subtle population whom were incarnated into the physical/having a physical life ‘experience’?!?!?

Deity (n.): c. 1300, deite, “divine nature, godhood, attributes of a god;” late 14c., “a god, God, the Supreme Being or self-existing spirit,” from Old French deité, from Late Latin deitatem (nominative deitas) “divine nature,” coined by Augustine from Latin deus “god,” from PIE *deiwos “god,” from root *dyeu- “to shine,” in derivatives “sky, heaven, god.” From 1580s as “a being to whom a divine or godlike nature is attributed.”

COMMENT/S: So, we have plenty of past language references describing ourselves as essentially being a ‘spirit’ incarnated into flesh i.e. that we are each a spirit/soul form being interfaced to an animal avatar/vehicle . . . hence then within the descriptions above ‘God’ i.e. ‘ourselves’ is described as a self-existing spirit (i.e. that we are actually independent of the physical form ) i.e. this implies that when not incarnated or before you started to be continually incarnated i.e. ‘re-incarnated’ again and again you were a freely living spirit/subtle/soul form!!!! I’d advise you to re-read the ‘incarnate’ references above a few times for this to properly sink in!!!

PLEASE NOTE: I’ve presented more angles of all of these ‘interfaced to a human’ possibilities written from a ‘matrix’ film analysis angle/perspective that also specifically goes into the language aspects associated with the word ‘matrix’ which turn out to be extensive as well as extensively revealing too on this page here: Matrix Film, Plato’s Cave, Theory of Forms, Metempsychosis & Platonic Dualism Comparisons!!!!

So, if all of us here are ‘actually’ some sort of none physical form from a none physical reality whom are each then being ‘interfaced’ to a human form then doesn’t this somewhat directly imply that we must all (whether we believe in such things or not) must then be being ‘incarnated into’ i.e. ‘interfaced to’ a human form while also, very likely being continually incarnated i.e. repeatedly reincarnated after the remote vehicle, human avatar form kicks the bucket i.e. actually dies!!!!
Wouldn’t the Greatest UPPER ‘Support’ Efforts Focus on Incarnating/Birth and or De-Interfacing/Death Efforts?

If we ‘really’ are of a form/being that never ever dies such that it/we are all being repeatedly interfaced/incarnated and then re-interfaced/re-incarnated then are there any specific word/words that would directly reflect/represent ourselves as being interfaced to and or repeatedly re-interfaced to the next available/suitable human fetus that would then be within a female’s pregnant ‘womb’?!?!?

Even more strangely, if this is all utter nonsense, i.e. if within our early origins we are not immortal subtle beings, whom then become aware of a parallel ‘physical’ strata which on then being investigated and on finding a world with physical life results in people becoming ‘experts’ in various aspects of the planet earth which they achieve by learning how to interface themselves to one or more different types of animal forms after which they then interface more and more of their own subtle culture’s population to a physical avatar form. However, in that to do this, they’d have to become experts in the human reproduction system as well as of the timing of the processes/stages of development of the fetus during pregnancy as part of interfacing the subtle form to the developing fetus correctly.

In this respect, wouldn’t you then expect that the specific immortal subtle beings/forms whom in the very distant past likely spent ages studying/researching/absorbed in the likely many and varied as well as complex factors related of the subtle form to human fetus interfacing efforts to such an extent that if in the future they themselves were also then interfaced to a physical form then isn’t it possible, maybe even likely that they’d have these specific past experiences resurfacing!?!?!?

Strangely this book for example “Parenting Begins Before Conception: A Guide to Preparing Body, Mind and Spirit for you and your future child” describes and goes into the spirit to human interfacing possibilities specifically IN VERY GREAT DETAIL!!!
Entire Subtle Culture Populations Being Interfaced/Incarnated as part of a Physical Earth Civilisation Possibilities

If you are knowingly setting up a ‘physical’ civilisation that would involve massive physical environment research as well as massive efforts to develop interfacing technologies for a project that would involve having to house and or protect/keep safe the stored (likely in a secure ‘pod’ somewhere) a very large population which also likely needs to be permanently monitored as well as checked to ensure that the subtle form doesn’t degrade in some way due to being inert/inactive . . . then wouldn’t all of this involve a super/ultra massive effort and or expense for any culture that was intent on doing this . . . AND wouldn’t all of this require a massive and highly organised ‘organisation’ to oversee all of this and or perhaps many sub organisations to deal with different aspects of these efforts . . .

As a start to this section, I’m going to come back to Incorporeal Essence from above: (usage begins in 15th century) Middle English incorporealle, from Anglo-French incorporel, from Latin incorporeus, from in- + corporeus corporeal. Not corporeal : 1. having no material body or form but a spiritual form, OR relating to, or constituting a right that is based on property (such as bonds or patents).

Incorporeal (adj.): early 15c., “spiritual, immaterial,” with -al (1) and Late Latin incorporeus “without body,” from in- “not” (see in- (1)) + adjective from corpus (genitive corporis) “body” (from PIE root *kwrep- “body, form, appearance”). The Old French adjective was incorporel. Glossed in Old English as lichhaemleas (see lich).

I want you to have a think about the last reference above: relating to, or constituting a right that is based on property (such as bonds or patents). Incorporeal Essence Incarnating means that you are Born!!!

Corpus (n.): “matter of any kind,” literally “a body,” (plural corpora), late 14c., “body,” from Latin corpus, literally “body” (see corporeal). The sense of “body of a person” (mid-15c. in English) and “collection of facts or things” (1727 in English) both were present in Latin.

Corporeal (adj.): 1610s, “of a material or physical nature, not mental or spiritual,” with adjectival suffix -al (1) + Latin corporeus “of the nature of a body,” from corpus “body” (living or dead), from PIE *kwrpes, from root *kwrep- “body, form, appearance.” Meaning “relating to a material body or physical thing” is from 1660s. Related: Corporeality, corporeally.

Corporation (n.): mid-15c., corporacioun, “persons united in a body for some purpose,” from such use in Anglo-Latin, from Late Latin corporationem (nominative corporatio) “assumption of a body” (used of the incarnation of Christ), noun of action from past-participle stem of Latin corporare “embody, make or fashion into a body,” from corpus (genitive corporis) “body, dead body, animal body,” also “a whole composed of united parts, a structure, system, community, corporation, political body, a guild” (from PIE root *kwrep- “body, form, appearance”). Meaning “legally authorized entity, artificial person created by law from a group or succession of persons” (such as municipal governments and modern business companies) is from 1610s.

Corporate (adj.): early 15c., “united in one body, constituted as a legal corporation,” as a number of individuals empowered to do business as an individual, in early use often of municipalities, from Latin corporatus, past participle of corporare “make or fashion into a body, furnish with a body,” also “to make into a corpse, kill,” from corpus (genitive corporis) “body” (from PIE root *kwrep- “body, form, appearance”). The past participle, corporatus, also was used as a noun meaning “member of a corporation.”

*kwrep-: Proto-Indo-European root meaning “body, form, appearance,” probably a verbal root meaning “to appear.”. It forms all or part of: corporal (adj.) “of or belonging to the body;” corporate; corporation; corporeal; corps; corpse; corpulence; corpulent; corpus; corpuscle; corsage; corse; corset; incorporeal; incorporate; leprechaun; midriff.

COMMENT/S: Is it only me that finds it strange that we have a spread of related words including incorporeal linking being incarnated into the physical and incorporations which is the legal term meaning to legally found (perhaps!!!) a ‘physical’ ‘company’ or ‘Corporate’ ‘entity’ that all originate from the root term/concept of *Kwerp-!!!! hence ‘incorporate’ below implies a none physical organisation/united body of people

Incorporate (v.): late 14c., “to put (something) into the body or substance of (something else), blend; absorb, eat,” also “solidify, harden,” often in medical writing, from Late Latin incorporatus, past participle of incorporare “unite into one body, embody, include,” from Latin in- “into, in, on, upon” (from PIE root *en “in”) + verb from corpus (genitive corporis) “body” (from PIE root *kwrep- “body, form, appearance”). Meaning “to legally form a body politic with perpetual succession and power to act as one person, establish as a legal corporation” is from mid-15c. (A verb corporate was used in this sense from early 15c.) Intransitive sense of “unite with another body so as to become part of it” is from 1590s. Related: Incorporated; incorporating.

COMMENT/S: I quote: “to put (something) into the body or substance of (something else), blend; absorb, eat,“. This underlined section above is ‘substantially’ equivalent in descriptive terms to putting or blending or incorporating a soul/subtle/spirit based life form into something solid/hard (at least compared to something readily described in ‘breath/moisture’ terms . . . hence then the soul spirit form would become ‘substantive’ i.e. it would go from something amorphous/ethereal to something solid/hard i.e. physically ‘touchable’!!!! Strangely, doesn’t “unite into one body” directly imply the merging of more than one body (i.e. two bodies) into one!!! Which coincidentally is ‘exactly’ what you get when you interface the soul/spirit form into any physical animal’s body!!!

Embody (v.): 1540s, in reference to a soul or spirit invested with a physical form; from 1660s of principles, ideas, etc.; from em- (1) “in” + body (n.). Related: Embodied; embodying.:  To give a body to (a spirit) (i.e. Incarnate (adj.): late 14c., “embodied in flesh, in human or bodily form” (of souls, spirits, etc.), from Late Latin incarnatus “made flesh,” a frequent word among early Christian writers, past-participle adjective from Latin incarnare “to make flesh” (see incarnation). Of qualities or abstractions, 1530s.)!!!

Other associations/uses of ‘Embody’: to deprive of spirituality, to make concrete and perceptible,  to cause to become a body or part of a body: INCORPORATE

Incorporation: In checking various early language definitions, there are 5 definition ‘angles’ given for ‘Incorporation’, below are the ‘3’ that I personally find the most interesting:

“To give substance or material form to; i.e. to ’embody’ /to be combined into one united body; merged”
“To unite (one thing) with something else already in existence.”
“To cause to merge or combine together into a united whole.”

So, once again, we have terms and words used that strongly as well as directly imply the embodiment or merging of a soul/spirit form with a physical body i.e. a spirit form being incarnated into ‘flesh’!!!! In other words it very strongly implies that ‘incorporation’ was originally describing the practice of subtle ‘people/spirit forms’ being interfaced to a physical form resulting in them being ‘incorporated’ into the ‘PHYSICAL’ reality?

In other words for at least ‘SOME’ of those that decided that they wanted to move their entire subtle/spirit population into the physical (which would take a massive amount of EXTREME organisation) and particularly in terms of making this entire set up work seamlessly i.e to automatically select the next available physical ‘vehicle/avatar’ i.e. physical fetus it will be interfaced to be returned (likely yet again) to the earth physical society . . .

Interestingly, the above original/early language descriptions are then replaced with the following:

“To admit as a member to a corporation or similar organization.”
“To cause to form into a legal corporation: incorporate a business.”

Which appear to imply/suggest that the perhaps subtle ‘ORGANISATIONS’ that were originally focused on ‘incorporating’ subtle beings into the physical as part of their physical ’empire/civilisation’ building/program efforts i.e. these original organisations CEO’s, directors and managers and workforce are perhaps now those here that are directing, managing and or working for what have been converted here into entirely ‘VISIBLE’ physical ‘CORPORATIONS’ . . .

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The above, descriptions in an overall sense all very strongly imply that a corporation is equivalent to some ‘enterprise’ that is subtle based and which is directly associated with overseeing and or maybe utilising those incarnated into our physical reality/earth world!!!

With respect to later sections above and the massive effort and organisation required to interface an entire subtle population into the physical then perhaps ‘some’ subtle races and or cultures may decide that they want some ‘payback/return’ for all of these efforts/their investments!!!!

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With respect to this ‘bizarre’ possibility specifically, here are some interesting as well as disturbing ‘facts’ that I read about on a web site called viewzone:
The Birth Certificate as Representing a Warehouse Receipt/Payment!!!

The original birth or naturalization record for every U.S. Citizen is on file in the official records in Washington, D.C. (you get to keep a copy!) and the property and assets of every living U.S. Citizen is pledged as collateral for the National Debt! Within two weeks and three days each Certificate of Live Birth is to be filed in Washington D.C. Evidence reveals that there is even a Federal Children Department established by the Shepherd/Townsend Act of 1922 under the Department of Commerce that appears to be involved in this process in some way. Every citizen is given a number (the red number on the Birth Certificate) and each live birth is valued at from 650,000 to 750,000 Federal Reserve dollars in collateral from the Fed. This kind of makes you feel a little different when you look at Federal Reserve Chairman, Nancy Yellen, doesn’t it?

OK. Let’s take a pause to look at the Birth Certificates [below to the right]. You will see the red numbers and you will see the fact that it is, in reality, a “Bank Note”, hence then directly implying that you and I are actually then ‘commodities’!!!!

 

The Possible Implications of Names in “ALL CAPS” weirdness on Birth Certificates

Since the early 1960s, State governments have issued Birth Certificates to “persons” with legal fictional names using “ALL CAPS” names. This is not a lawful record of your physical birth, but rather the acknowledgement of the “birth” of the juristic, all-caps name. It may appear to be your true name, but since no proper name is ever written in all caps (either lawfully or grammatically) it does not identify who you are.

The Birth Certificate is the government’s self-created document of title for its new property — you and me!!!

The state claims an interest in every child within its jurisdiction. The state (via CPS) will, if it deems it necessary, nullify your parental rights and appoint a guardian (trustee) over your children. The subject of every birth certificate is a child. The child is a valuable asset, which if properly trained, can contribute valuable assets provided by its labor for many years. It is presumed by those who have researched this issue, that the child itself is the asset of the trust established by the birth certificate, and the social security number is the numbering or registration of the trust, allowing for the assets of the trust to be tracked.

If this information is true, your child is now owned by the state. Each one of us, including our children, are considered assets of the bankrupt UNITED STATES. We are now designated by this government as “HUMAN RESOURCES” with a new crop born every year.

In a way, it makes us a kind of corporation whose company name is the same as our real name, but written in ALL CAPS. This “corporation” then generates taxes and wealth over its lifetime and in this way repays the collateral that Uncle Sam borrowed from the Federal Reserve.

Remember that “Bond” thing printed on the bottom of the certificate, let’s take a closer look at the word ‘Bond’ (Merriam-Webster Dictionary of Law (1996)).

1a: A usually formal written agreement by which a person undertakes to perform a certain act (as fulfill the obligations of a contract) … with the condition that failure to perform or abstain will obligate the person … to pay a sum of money or will result in the forfeiture of money put up by the person or surety.
1b: One who acts as a surety.

2: An interest-bearing document giving evidence of a debt issued by a government body or corporation that is sometimes secured by a lien on property and is often designed to take care of a particular financial need.”

Banknote: a kind of negotiable instrument, a promissory note made by a bank payable to the bearer on demand, used as money, and in many jurisdictions is legal tender. Along with coins, banknotes make up the cash or bearer forms of all modern money.

Birth certificates are a form of securities called “warehouse receipts.” The items included on a warehouse receipt, as descried at §7-202 of the Uniform Commercial Code, the law which governs commercial paper and transactions, which parallel a birth certificate are:

    The location of the warehouse where the goods are stored…(residence)
    The date of issue of the receipt…..(“Date issued”)
    The consecutive number of the receipt…(found on back or front of the certificate, usually in red numbers)
    A description of the goods or of the packages containing them…(name, sex, date of birth, etc.)
    The signature of the warehouseman, which may be made by his authorized agent…(municipal clerk or state registrar’s signature)

Based on the above, then birth certificates appear to at least qualify as “warehouse receipts” under the Uniform Commercial Code. Black’s Law Dictionary, 7th ed. defines:

Warehouse Receipt:

“A warehouse receipt, which is considered a document of title, may be a negotiable instrument and is often used for financing with inventory as security.”

It is not difficult to see that a state-created Birth Certificate, with an ALL CAPS name is a document evidencing debt the moment it is issued.

Now, once a state has registered a birth document with the U.S. Department of Commerce, the Department notifies the Treasury Department, which takes out a loan from the Federal Reserve. The Treasury uses the loan to purchase a bond (the Fed holds a purchase money security interest in the bond) from the Department of Commerce, which invests the sale proceeds in the stock or bond market. The Treasury Department then issues Treasury securities in the form of Treasury Bonds, Notes, and Bills using the bonds as surety for the new securities.

This cycle is based on the future tax revenues of the legal person whose name appears on the Birth Certificate. This also means that the bankrupt, corporate U.S. can guarantee to the purchasers of their securities the lifetime labour and tax revenues of every citizen of the United States/American with a Birth Certificate as collateral for payment. This device is initiated simply by converting the lawful, true name of the child into a legal, juristic name of a person.

Legally, you are considered to be a slave or indentured servant to the various Federal, State and local governments via your STATE-issued and STATE-created Birth Certificate in the name of your all-caps person.
Birth Certificates are issued so that the issuer can claim exclusive title to the legal person created thereby!!!

HOWEVER!!!! . . . . after having a think about the above for a while . . . then, as this birth certificate is being presented as a warehouse receipt/payment and as your subtle/spirit/soul body must be being looked after as well as being kept safe ‘SOMEWHERE’ i.e. it’ll have to be:

    Kept, safe within some very secure/protected subtle reality/strata storage area/space (i.e. some subtle equivalent to a ‘warehouse’) while . . . in that it’s not a box of cash or coins . . . such that . . .
    It’ll have to be regularly monitored/checked/looked after either by subtle forms/trained personnel and or sophisticated automated monitoring/diagnostic/apply remedies systems and particularly to ensure that it’s health doesn’t depreciate during the time it’s being interfaced to a physical human form during which it’ll be lying in an inert state, unconscious of and hence then unable to respond to it’s subtle surroundings . . . never mind . . .
    All of the research and development necessary with respect to providing the interfacing to the physical vehicle itself . . .

Such that, it seems to me that at least for certain cultures here, that these ‘WAREHOUSE’ STORAGE, MAINTENANCE & PROTECTION/SECURITY costs are being recouped as a human vehicle incarnation, new human birth, have a physical human life tax/charge!!!!

After reading the above you may find the following interesting too:

Prophet: is a person who speaks for God or a deity, or by divine inspiration and or who foretells/predicts the future.
Profit: (in terms of ‘corporations’ and ‘shares’) is about making gains, leverage or an ‘advantage’ by being the best at assessing trends/predicting future outcomes.
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    Clive
    November 20, 2019 @ 6:12 pm

    NEW POST . . . it’s taken ages to get all of the information together for this page and then ages to get it written in a decent form (its about 20 pages of A4 in length, so equivalent to a decent book chapter!!!!) . . . I also still consider this page to be a ‘work in progress’ despite that it (to me) seems to be exceptionally good now . . . so if you can think of any other connected angles and or ‘associations’ leave a comment!!!!

    Also, as you read it I’ve pointed out obvious things like WhereTF would early ‘humans’ get concepts such as ‘immortal’ from never mind obviously applying it to ‘THEMSELVES’?!?!?! . . . so ‘again’ if any other words strike you as out of place for earlier 600 years ago way more primitive times and or in ‘concept/meaning’ terms then point these out in a comment too!!!!

    Also as ‘English’ as a language is crap/shite as it just doesn’t have the words to cover specific concepts never mind some ‘alternate’ experiences . . . so if your ‘foreign’ and or are familiar with other languages and can think of related other language terms/words that either I’ve missed on this page or that would relate to what I’m writing about here then again maybe leave a comment to let me know about them/these!!!!

    Also, it’s worth reading it all the way to the bottom because the most ‘blatant/in your face/stark/unbelievable’ part is left till the very end!!!!

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    Tommy
    November 20, 2019 @ 8:55 pm

    Clive you said people being turned into trees story of Daphne and Apollo. Daphne was a nymph and Apollo fancied her didn’t really work out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_and_Daphne Maybe have a chat with her dad. You spoke about the metempsychosis have you had a chat with Persephone about how that exactly worked? I’d also try to see if you could have a chat with Ninhursag her husband made the human animal form. For the hindu thing I’d see if you could have a chat with Ganesha since he’s a wisdom deity. I’d also have a chat with Thoth Anubis and Isis because well remember that Isis her husband actually died and they somehow fixed his corpse. Idk if you could get any of those to talk I remember you had a chat with Isis while doing a entity release of someone. Basically if you figure out their tricks I’d think you might undo some things they did shoddy. I wouldn’t risk talking to the chief deity of Greeks but remember his nifty trick of separating the sun and moon parts. There is a certain Titan who brought fire to humanity and he also was very good in prophecy maybe have a chat. I remember the original Babylonian myths that the gods made humans as slaves what is the chance that they tricked our subtle forms to be trapped into the human animal form what if your theories of the eeas are wrong yes there was a a eeas but what if those were just stuck in another simulation made by those shitty Babylonian entities and they are stuck in a simulation of some other shitty beings ect. Might be a long shot and it’s a lot of speculation they might not even wanna talk but maybe go dig in their scripts if humans have scripts then the deities must also have scripts just delete this because it’s prolly a shit comment

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        Clive
        December 8, 2019 @ 4:18 pm

        Very interesting Tommy, I’m impressed with your knowledge of the early God’s . . . when I was first setting up as a healer which included myself at some point putting together this web site, which then had me checking other ‘healing’ sites, during which I kept coming across the Caduceus healing symbol . . . which felt sort of familiar, BUT also seemed to me to be associated with all sorts of types of pseudo healing efforts (like Medical Schools for example) such that I never used it . . .

        ‘However’ at some point about 2 and a half decades ago myself and a couple of friends went on a drift wood hunt (I was thinking about this a few weeks ago) such that I came back with loads of interesting drift wood pieces including an entire gnarly/burr covered drift wood tree stump whose burr’s seemed to me to be presenting faces (i.e. it was a smaller version but very similar to the lower trunk part of the Game of Thrones sacred tree) . . . I also came back with two longish ‘undulating/snake like’ branches which when placed together were then strangely suggestive of the Caduceus staff!!!!

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        However, a good few years later . . . I’m having some weird ‘energetic’ shit going on with my right arm, which is sort of more and more feeling as if it’s going sort of ‘dead’ (and particularly in energetic/channelling energy terms) more and more from above the wrist getting closer and closer to the elbow (like when you sleep in a certain position lying on an arm such that on waking up your arm can then doesn’t work/function properly for a while) . . . except it had been getting steadily worse for a few weeks at this point . . .

        While this weird arm thing is going on I have a guy book a healing session, and specifically because a healer friend of mine has told him he should see me . . . so, he comes. It turns out that he’s started to spontaneously do healing/heal people beginning a few weeks ago, he’s very excited about this . . . so excited that as soon as he arrives he insists on showing me how he heals . . . i.e. he wants to give me a ‘blast’ of his healing . . . which he then does . . . even more strange is that I feel nothing . . . like nothing happens . . . he’s also very puzzled by this . . . ‘now’ at this point he looks at me directly and steps back slightly shocked/taken aback like he’s seen some sort of ghost or ??? . . . however, he then tells me he’s seeing me in a brown monk looking robe, wearing leather sandals while also having a helmet on my head AND . . . here’s the thing . . . both my sandals and my helmet apparently HAVE WINGS . . .

        So, he’s basically describing myself as Hermes the God of healing Hahhahahhaha!!! . . .

        So, in feeling into ALL OF THIS while also trying to get my head around WTF is going on . . . I then realise that he’s someone that actually NICKED my/Hermes healing staff, i.e. my healing channelling abilities (hence then my right arm is missing it’s healing channelling tech because during this time/phase in my script this ‘BOZO’ stole it . . . ) . . .

        So, I take my tech back, BUT I also then make a duplicate of the tech and ‘sort of’ pass it over to him . . . my right arm then goes back to ‘normal’!!!!

        Now Tommy, my nature spirit awakening experience that I described here, is missing some extra weird bit’s . . . after completely leaving/walking away from the tree circle area, about a quarter mile away I feel and start to track myself being followed by a Wood Nymph whom seems to me to be in a very very sexy/seductive/enticing mood (with respect to myself) . . . which has myself ‘energetically’ determinedly sealing myself off from her . . . while doing this Joan also starts laughing while also mentioning that I’ve a very seductive Wood Nymph trailing me while also mentioning that it’s best I ‘NOT’ let her engage with myself else I might have trouble getting rid of her . . .

        On reading about Hermes . . . I find that after being ‘created’ (by I think Maya and ???/cannot remember now) I then run away while also apparently stealing my fathers ‘cattle’.

        Now, when accessing my own soul creation time (as described here way down in that page in section: How I became Aware of my Soul Parents & My ‘Creation’ as a Soul Child). I found that I wasn’t the product of a normal soul form dividing/splitting effort BUT that I was very specifically ‘created’ from specifically chosen subtle body form characteristics/attributes/parts from 4 soul parents. So, 4 subtle forms (facilitated by subtle tech) select out and duplicate very specific parts of there subtle body which would have the very specific attributes/qualities/skills/abilities etc that they wanted the new subtle form to have . . . which are then put together in a hi tech subtle chamber which then works to ‘meld’ all of these parts together . . . ‘NOW’ in engaging with these experiences (about 2 decades ago now) I find that while this is happening/in progress a sort of subtle ‘reality’ quake activates and keeps sending shock waves out, which completely disturb my soul parent forms whom are tending/looking after me, as well as myself . . . which get’s so stressful that I’m so pissed off with my soul parents having no ability to do anything about this that on exiting the ‘melding’ chamber I head off away from them as fast as possible . . .

        Hermes is the God of healing and the God of Thievery, the second of which had me very puzzled (as I’ve no cat-burglar type inclinations at all – haha) until I found early language descriptions describing ‘thievery’ as being able to ‘get access to’ impossible places . . . now the original description is worded in such a way that I eventually realised that it’s referring to someone that has exceptional REMOTE VIEWING/ACCESSING abilities i.e. it’s describing someone that can access anything/anywhere remotely . . . hence then I’ve managed to access my own soul creation times (in unbelievable detail) which happened within the multiverse next door to the multiverse outside of our shit EAAS version!!!!

        I also read later that Hermes was also known for regularly meeting up with a Wood Nymph type too!!!!!!

        Also, in being commissioned to be ‘designed/created’ to have very specific characteristics/attributes by using subtle body material from 4 subtle being donors, specifically for a very specific ‘project’ (in my case to remotely view and figure out WTF the EAAS project is actually going to do) . . . then you could at a stretch say that by and large it’s possible that whomever sanctioned the ‘design/creation’ of myself whom specifically did this for myself to be the leader of the entire ‘spy on the EAAS project’ teams effort . . . would by and large perhaps consider myself to be there ‘property’ . . . and in evacuating/disappearing/running off this could perhaps be seen/described here as being equivalent to “stealing ‘cattle’/someone’s property”!!!!

        There is a series called Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell which is all about two rival ‘magicians/wizards’!!! This series represent the efforts put into manipulating two very competent ‘subtle’ beings in attempts to have them become rivals/causing each other more and more problems!!!!

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    Shalin
    November 20, 2019 @ 10:58 pm

    I’ve taken one read so far (will re-read a few more times to let it sync in), although I’m not certain how the changes in the meaning of the words (over time) that you listed are useful other than serve as evidence that there is a deliberate attempt to keep us unaware of our subtle origins.

    One word that immediately came to mind that is associated is the Chinese word: Shen, which has many meanings and references and is a very old word.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shen_(Chinese_religion)

    The reference to Dante’s hell (Ring 2: Against Self), trees and hellish existence perfectly describes my situation. My current existence is beyond hellish. I frequently have thoughts of ending it because of the extreme hellish nature of what I am physically going through.

    Have you thought about Zaqqum, which is a tree referenced in the Quran:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaqqum

    The reference doesn’t involve incarnating/interfacing subtle beings as trees but there is a reference where those in the hell are forced to eat the fruit of this tree (devil’s fruit):

    The fruits of Zaqqum are shaped like devils’ heads (Qur’an 37:62-68). Some Islamic scholars believe in a literal meaning of this tree grown in fire, showing the inverted flora of hell. The inhabitants of hell are forced to eat the tree’s fruits, which tears their bodies apart and releases bodily fluids as a punishment.

    Theres also the tree of knowledge of good/evil – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_the_knowledge_of_good_and_evil

    But not sure how that would tie in but I imagine you’ve already thought of this.

    The birth-certificate/US-government/federal-reserve thing for some reason to resonate strongly with me. For a long time I’ve had this belief that we are basically slaves to the state and the system.

    But as it relates to us as subtle beings – would this apply to all of us? There are subtle beings who are interfaced to human avatars who live privileged lives – those in the top 10% of wealth for example or those who are wealthy and have no physical or mental health problems. Reminds me of the film Elysium with Matt Damon:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elysium_(film)

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        Clive
        November 22, 2019 @ 4:02 pm

        Thanks for these Shalin, the top 3 and particularly that ‘tree of good and evil’ is very ‘striking’ I can maybe use these for another angle sometime!!!

        The Elysium film, I cannot remember that one BUT I’ve watched ‘Altered Carbon’ a few times as it’s striking that the ‘sky’ residences are of the ‘Lords’ that are then actually living within the subtle and not only are they presented as having a formal garden (of an ‘eden’ like presentation) but the main ‘Lord’ even has what is pointed out as a very special ‘tree’ within this ‘mansion’ i.e. the tree represents the physical populations ‘interfacing’ efforts/interfaced circumstances . . . the coiled snake in the ‘intro’ is representing being ‘incarnated’ AND the double coiled snake is implying for ever and ever i.e. your going to be re-interfaced forever and ever!!!!

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    Shalin
    November 21, 2019 @ 12:46 am

    Also any useful link between neural networks (dendrite trees) in human/animal brains and physical tree’s?

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        Clive
        November 21, 2019 @ 1:27 am

        Shalin re ‘neural networks ‘dendrite trees’ . . . I’d bet money that tree root mycelium or ‘similar/other root’ structures are organised to represent logic structures/neural networks . . . good way to keep these hidden!!! Also, the most recent shit designs we’ve encountered were related to the film ‘The Adjustment Bureau’ (AB) and the Spanish series ‘Minesterio Del Tempo’ the AB film uses doors as portals to magically get access to pretty much anywhere while the Spanish series uses doors to access places though time AND both are about keeping the future on track . . . as most doors yet again usually either are entirely ‘wood’ or use wood products as part of there make up then these are possibly yet another creative/magical tree/wood angle!!!!

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    Olivia
    November 21, 2019 @ 11:21 am

    2nd time i’m trying to post. An error came up saying “an error has occurred. You posted your comment too quickly. try again later.” Weird.

    So here I go, second time round:

    My husband works on creating simulations and running test environments for various insurance companies which then result in these systems going live. He struggles with the craziest amount of anomalies, works so fucking hard to work out every kink (there is a compulsion to do this – he’s close to burnout – and he doesn’t get well rewarded for the hours). The point is, we talk. I told him to relax a little & not be surprised by anomalies. So, we’re talking about his system & I mentioned to be on the lookout for managed thinking. People being puppeted (like a Mr. Smith).

    His reply was: Interesting! The tool that runs the deployment is called puppet! Xx

    Tool in South Africa is slang for “an idiot” as in “you are a ‘tool’” / “what a ‘tool’!”

    Puppet I found extremely interesting too:
    Definition of Puppet:
    a person, group, government, etc., whose actions are prompted and controlled by another or others.

    an ARTIFICIAL figure representing a human being or an animal, MANIPULATED by “the hand”

    Of course “the hand” to me immediately reminded me of “god” (the hand of god).

    And then I found: According to Aristotle, the hand is the “tool of tools.” This seemed odd too, because it’s almost like a joke: “the hand” of god is a “tool” (idiot).

    So to go back to my husbands original reply, the meaning of his current project is:

    “The tool (Idiot) that runs the deployment is called ‘puppet’” – an ARTIFICIAL figure representing a human being or an animal, MANIPULATED by the “hand” (god/a “tool” / “idiot”).

    Literally provides him with all the information he has to know about his project – or therefore perhaps, in general – simulations!? Hahahaha! This came minutes after I started reading your updated post.

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        Clive
        November 23, 2019 @ 6:10 pm

        Hi Olivia, and this also fits well with this page as we/us/humans/people are also being viewed as useful/valuable tools and hence then have an assigned ‘value/worth’ at birth too. It’s possible your husband (being a copied/duplicate person here) was working on the EAAS project doing something similar with respect to getting people/humans ‘animated’ correctly!!!!

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    Shalin
    November 22, 2019 @ 3:37 am

    You may want to investigate the following films if you, Matt/Tom haven’t already done so:

    1. The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chronicles_of_Narnia:_The_Lion,_the_Witch_and_the_Wardrobe

    A wardrobe made from a magic tree that transports people to the netherworld of Narnia. (magic tree angle)

    2. Being John Malkovich
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Being_John_Malkovich

    A door behind a filing cabinet that transports people to the inside of John Malkovich’s head. (door/wood portal angle)

    3. Monsters Inc.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsters,_Inc.

    Closets that transport people and monsters between the monster-ruled city of Monstropolis and children’s bedrooms. (closets/door/wood portal angle)

    4. The Nightmare Before Christmas
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nightmare_Before_Christmas

    A tree that transports people to Christmas Town. (tree portal angle)

    5. Poltergeist (1982).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poltergeist_(1982_film)

    Bizarre events occur the following day: a drinking glass of milk spontaneously breaks, silverware bends, and furniture moves of its own accord. The phenomena seem benign at first, but quickly begin to intensify. That night, a gnarled backyard tree comes alive and grabs Robbie through the bedroom window. While Steve rescues Robbie, Carol Anne is sucked into a portal that appears in her closet. The Freelings realize something supernatural has occurred when they hear her voice emanating from the television set that is tuned to an empty channel.

    (tree/closet portal angle)

    6. Stranger Things Netflix series

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_Things
    https://strangerthings.fandom.com/wiki/Portals

    Various portals throughout the series but there is one at the base of a tree:

    When Jonathan and Nancy went searching for the Demogorgon on Mirkwood, they came across a wounded deer. As they were about to perform a mercy kill on it, it was suddenly pulled away by an unseen force. Following the trail of blood, Nancy discovered an open portal in the base of a tree

    7) Avatar (you likely already investigated this) – 2009 film with the home tree / tree of souls as the center of the civilization for the Na’vi people on Pandora

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_(2009_film)
    https://james-camerons-avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Tree_of_Souls

    The Tree of Souls, besides being a connection to Eywa, also works as a way for her to directly interact with the world through the seeds of the tree. The tree has the capability to connect directly to the human nervous system, despite humans lacking a queue. The roots of the Tree of Souls are capable of initiating a neural link with the Na’vi, like with the Tree of Voices. This allows all of the Na’vi to unite as one.

    8. Sleepy Hollow – 1999 with Jonny Depp

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcOENbnXxQ4 (tree of the dead scene)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleepy_Hollow_(film)

    The is tree in the film that is the portal into the living world (hellmouth) – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellmouth

    9. Game of Thrones (HBO tv series) – there is a tree type called Weirwoods which have faces carved into their trunks and have eyes. It is said that they enable one to see into the past/future and provide extraordinary powers/magic

    https://gameofthrones.fandom.com/wiki/Weirwood
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYWdjm3bRvo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiq-Fwrzub0
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF0CZNLBTgQ

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        Clive
        December 2, 2019 @ 1:23 pm

        ‘AND’ thanks for the tree film list to Shalin

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    Olivia
    November 22, 2019 @ 4:39 pm

    Shalin – it’s interesting that you often refer to TCM terminology. I keep meaning to post something, but somehow it never comes about. I am a TCM practitioner and was trying to convey the meaning of Qi & Shen yesterday. I did some searching through the net (acupuncture today etc/various manuals by Maciocia) on all the connections with the organs/emotions/spirits etc.

    Clive – from our perspective as practitioners of TCM, there are Hun and Po spirits. They also relate to a direction, a season, an emotion and an organ.

    https://giovanni-maciocia.com/shen-and-hun-psyche-in-chinese-medicine/

    We also use the word Qi, which is the idea of a “universal source of energy”. Any energy which has power and strength, has qi. That could be electricity, magnetism, heat or light. Even the weather has qi.

    In some of the earliest Chinese texts, like the I Ching or Book of Changes, they described qi as ‘breath’ (not that I’ve had the chance to read the translations, but it’s well known & taught).

    I remember when I was in China studying, the lecturers told us something along the lines of “human beings were created when a “god” brought terracotta statues to life by exposing them to qi, “the breath of the world’s beginning”.

    Qi is something so essential to “life”, that the Chinese character for qi is made up of those for ‘rice’ and ‘steam’.

    So you can think of it as the steam from a warming bowl of rice, something that keeps you alive. This goes along nicely with breath/spirit etc you mention in this page Clive.

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        Clive
        November 23, 2019 @ 5:52 pm

        Hi Olivia, TCM Traditional Chinese Medicine!!!

        I had a phase of using acupressure and a very good western version of the I-Ching for ‘dowsing/advice’ too (likely 2 decades+ ago now)

        Keep in mind that these healing/health approaches relate to an underwater culture (remember the crabs as humans links I gave on the home page here) i.e. it’s one of a very few cultures that at least was trying to give it’s in the air spirit/soul incarnated people a full 3 dimensional living environment (an entire underwater environment) rather than just a 2D flat surface one. So, they also designed in the acupuncture system that via the interfacing allows ailments of the subtle form to be diagnosed and treated (hence modern medicine research of acupuncture isn’t allowed to confirm the effectiveness of TCM!!!!)

        On the others hand the acu pressure/acupuncture has been co-opted within the EAAS to (like everything else) be used as a subtle backdoor into the human form . . .

        This web copy of a book: https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/antigravityworldgrid/ciencia_antigravityworldgrid06.htm#Ley%20Lines%20and%20The%20Meaning%20Of%20Adam

        . . . that is no longer available to buy (I’m not surprised as it’s too revealing) showing how the human acupuncture points/places not only also match up with some ley lines they also match up with various star systems too i.e. in the latter case aspects of the ‘heavens’ which will then allow the EAAS ‘universe’ to generate/use emissions from these star systems to mess with peoples subtle form and then through this the human body processes/functions!!!

        There are backdoors/often multiple backdoors into everything/every aspect of everything here!!!!

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    Clive
    November 25, 2019 @ 2:43 pm

    EVERYONE . . . you might find this interesting . . .

    The current series at least from one angle is arguing that any investigation of any/all original subtle/soul/spirit form cultures of the physical strata is exceptionally unlikely to focus on ‘humans’ ONLY i.e. it is in fact highly likely that we should have many human grade in intelligence ‘animals’ here as part of the larger society . . .

    If this is correct, which it is because I’ve pointed out in links on the front/home page here I already compiled extensive evidence that some people ‘here’ whom are currently presenting as ‘humans’ have in fact been ‘converted’ (via software) into humans from being a crab species . . .

    In other words we appear to have at least some point in the past been subjected to a planet wide ‘transformation’ where all intelligent animals (i.e. all those that have via interfacing resulted in the spirit/soul/subtle form being ‘made flesh’ within a none human animal form) have all then been converted/rendered as a human . . . HOWEVER . . . until this point in our past we’d then have cultures that were (likely) a very, very diverse mixture of ‘intelligent’ animals . . .

    ……………………………..

    Recently I came across a book written in 1906 that is describing in great detail past criminal prosecution cases specifically involving ‘animals’ . . . called:

    THE CRIMINAL PROSECUTION AND
    CAPITAL PUNISHMENT OF ANIMALS

    Here is an extract:

    CHAPTER I
    BUGS AND BEASTS BEFORE THE LAW

    It is said that Bartholomew Chassenée,[1] a distinguished French jurist of the sixteenth century (born at Issy-l’Evêque in 1480), made his reputation at the bar as counsel for some rats, which had been put on trial before the ecclesiastical court of Autun on the charge of having feloniously eaten up and wantonly destroyed the barley-crop of that province. On complaint formally presented by the magistracy, the official or bishop’s vicar, who exercised jurisdiction in such cases, cited the culprits to appear on a certain day and appointed Chassenée to defend them.

    In view of the bad repute and notorious guilt of his clients, Chassenée was forced to employ all sorts of legal shifts and chicane, dilatory pleas and other technical objections, hoping thereby to find some loophole in the meshes of the law through which the accused might escape,[Pg 19] or at least to defer and mitigate the sentence of the judge. He urged, in the first place, that inasmuch as the defendants were dispersed over a large tract of country and dwelt in numerous villages, a single summons was insufficient to notify them all; he succeeded, therefore, in obtaining a second citation, to be published from the pulpits of all the parishes inhabited by the said rats. At the expiration of the considerable time which elapsed before this order could be carried into effect and the proclamation be duly made, he excused the default or non-appearance of his clients on the ground of the length and difficulty of the journey and the serious perils which attended it, owing to the unwearied vigilance of their mortal enemies, the cats, who watched all their movements, and, with fell intent, lay in wait for them at every corner and passage. On this point Chassenée addressed the court at some length, in order to show that if a person be cited to appear at a place, to which he cannot come with safety, he may exercise the right of appeal and refuse to obey the writ, even though such appeal be expressly precluded in the summons. The point was argued as seriously as though it were a question of family feud between Capulet and Montague in Verona or Colonna and Orsini in Rome.

    ——————— another extract:

    Sometimes the obnoxious vermin were generously forewarned. Thus the grand-vicars of Jean Rohin, Cardinal Bishop of Autun, having been informed that slugs were devastating several estates in different parts of his diocese, on the 17th of August, 1487, ordered[Pg 37] public processions to be made for three days in every parish, and enjoined upon the said slugs to quit the territory within this period under penalty of being accursed. On the 8th of September, 1488, a similar order was issued at Beaujeu. The curates were charged to make processions during the offices, and the slugs were warned three times to cease from vexing the people by corroding and consuming the herbs of the fields and the vines, and to depart; “and if they do not heed this our command, we excommunicate them and smite them with our anathema.” In 1516, the official of Troyes pronounced sentence on certain insects (adversus brucos seu eurucas vel alia non dissimilia animalia, Gallicè urebecs, probably a species of curculio), which laid waste the vines, and threatened them with anathema, unless they should disappear within six days. Here it is expressly stated that a counsellor was assigned to the accused, and a prosecutor heard in behalf of the aggrieved inhabitants. As a means of rendering the anathema more effective, the people are also urged to be prompt and honest in the payment of tithes. Chassenée, too, endorses this view, and in proof of its correctness refers to Malachi, where God promises to rebuke the devourer for man’s sake, provided all the tithes are brought into the storehouse.

    The archives of the old episcopal city of St. Jean-de-Maurienne contain the original records[Pg 38] of legal proceedings instituted against some insects, which had ravaged the vineyards of St. Julien, a hamlet situated on the route over Mt. Cenis and famous for the excellence of its vintage. The defendants in this case were a species of greenish weevil (charançon) known to entomologists as rychites auratus, and called by different names, amblevin, bèche, verpillion, in different provinces of France.

    Complaint was first made by the wine-growers of St. Julien in 1545 before François Bonnivard, doctor of laws. The procurator Pierre Falcon and the advocate Claude Morel defended the insects, and Pierre Ducol appeared for the plaintiffs. After the presentation and discussion of the case by both parties, the official, instead of passing sentence, issued a proclamation, dated the 8th of May, 1546, recommending public prayers and beginning with the following characteristic preamble: “Inasmuch as God, the supreme author of all that exists, hath ordained that the earth should bring forth fruits and herbs (animas vegetativas), not solely for the sustenance of rational human beings, but likewise for the preservation and support of insects, which fly about on the surface of the soil, therefore it would be unbecoming to proceed with rashness and precipitance against the animals now actually accused and indicted; on the contrary, it would be more fitting for us to have recourse to the mercy of heaven and to implore pardon for our[Pg 39] sins.” Then follow instructions as to the manner in which the public prayers are to be conducted in order to propitiate the divine wrath. The people are admonished to turn to the Lord with pure and undivided hearts (ex toto et puro corde), to repent of their sins with unfeigned contrition, and to resolve to live henceforth justly and charitably, and above all to pay tithes. High mass is to be celebrated on three consecutive days, namely on May 20th, 21st, and 22nd, and the host to be borne in solemn procession with songs and supplications round the vineyards. The first mass is to be said in honour of the Holy Spirit, the second in honour of the Blessed Virgin, and the third in honour of the tutelar saint of the parish. At least two persons of each household are required to take part in these religious exercises. A procès-verbal, signed by the curate Romanet, attests that this programme was fully carried out and that the insects soon afterwards disappeared.

    About thirty years later, however, the scourge was renewed and the destructive insects were actually brought to trial. The proceedings are recorded on twenty-nine folia and entitled: De actis scindicorum communitatis Sancti Julliani agentium contra animalia bruta ad formam muscarum volantia coloris viridis communi voce appellata verpillions seu amblevins. The documents, which are still preserved in the archives of St. Julien, were communicated by M. Victor[Pg 40] Dalbane, secretary of the commune, to M. Léon Ménebréa, who printed them in the appendix to his volume: De l’origine de la forme et de l’esprit des jugements rendus au moyen-âge contre les animaux. Chambery, 1846. This treatise appeared originally in the twelfth tome of the Mémoires de la Société Royale Académique de Savoie.

    ————————————————————————-

    Aren’t the above not only ‘bizarre’ but don’t they directly imply that the mentioned cats/rats/slugs and a greenish weevil species were considered to be ‘people’ and hence then were responsible for there actions!!!!

    ————————————————————————-

    A free .pdf of this book is available and can be found/downloaded from here: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm

    If anyone reads more than the above ‘and’ comes across other ‘animal’ species being taken to court copy and paste the ‘shorter’ bits from these as a comment here!!!!

    —————————

    I’ve also re-written parts of the above page and particularly the introduction as well as correcting a lot of spelling errors too!!!!

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    Tommy
    November 25, 2019 @ 7:13 pm

    Clive cant understand what you mean with this comment.

    What I’m picking up is.

    Animals got a trial just like humans. Certain Animals have human like intelligence. Certain animal forms got translated into humans. After the trial the shenanigans of the animals stopped.

    There is a part in the end of the book that mentioned crucified lions in Afrika and that other lions who saw the crucified ones didn’t attack.

    I have been working with a girl named Luna to remove things and become more grounded and she said she perceived my higher self as a coyote humanoid and that I had like a bear and a panther helping me. That those were my siblings. The whole animal thing makes me think of shamanism with the power animals.

    I had another guy check something out and he said he perceived me as a light being basically something like the sun only smaller somewhere else.

    They both found some reptile like creature snacking on me Luna told me she removed it with coyote bear and panther. Clive isn’t your lot checking up on me how tf did I get a reptile attached to me snacking on my whatever if I’m in the hands of your lot?

    The whole animal thing the only other thing I can think of is my ex called hinde that means female deer in dutch. So what’s the possibility that she was a female deer spirit that got interfaced to a human animal form?

    The more I think about stuff the less it all makes sense. Dollhouse and psychonaut stuff. Me seeing the weird alien stuff. Me being possessed by a fallen angel? I’m a coyote? Or a sun from another galaxy? But I got borged? On top of all the other shite? It’s also like I somehow can’t comprehend or that I forget stuff.

    You know like your whole past I can’t remember anything of my human past lives or my lives anywhere else.

    My comment Is all over the place and your too busy to explain. So guess I should just keep my head down.

    Is it useful to like work with other people to remove stuff or is it script defined? So am I wasting money on that? Like Luna removed that reptile but did it just fuck off for a week and then the fucker is back because it’s not in my script to get it removed?

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        Clive
        December 2, 2019 @ 1:56 pm

        Hi Tommy, re ‘Clive cant understand what you mean with this comment’ – yea it’s not clear . .

        At some point in our past history we had a mixture of many types of intelligent animals (equivalent to us/humans ‘now’ in intelligence terms) as well as none intelligent/normal/dumb animals. At some point in our past maybe sometime in the late 18th century and or early 19th century all ‘intelligent’ interfaced to an animal of all types WHOM WEREN’T HUMAN were all converted/transformed INSTANTLY into humans i.e. before this time humans we’re in very small numbers mixed in with a lot of other intelligent species!!!

        However, if you remember the crabs as humans evidence Tommy (links on home page somewhere!!!) then this crabs to humans conversion implies that ‘SOME TYPE’ of transformation has been applied to all peoples/races/cultures that didn’t use a human animal to interface there population too. Basically within the EAAS part of the agenda is have everyone interfaced ‘soul’ identify as being human because they want everyone brainwashed into thinking that humans are automatically superior to all other animal forms so that the final update will then have humans in charge/considered above all other cultures whom are using a none human avatar!!!

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    Shalin
    November 25, 2019 @ 7:21 pm

    SUMMARY of Shalin’s Animal link efforts . . .

    Termites:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_124 e ditos sentencios espirituaes e moraes, etc. Vol. V., Lisboá, 1747.]

    Weevils:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_38
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_49, 50

    Were-Wolf:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_198

    Worm & bee:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_9 & 10

    Toad & Frog:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_132

    Inger:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_113, 114, 115
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_120, 121

    Swine:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_145
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_157
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_169
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_342 (french)

    Sow/Pig/Ass:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_16
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_140
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_142
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_147, 148, 149
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_154
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_160
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_335 (french
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_338 (french)
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_342 (french)
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_346 (french)
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_356 (french)

    Serpent:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_103, 104
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_121

    Malleolus gives the following formula for banning serpents and expelling them from human habitations, inculcating incidentally the iniquity of perjury and judicial injustice: “By virtue of this ban and conjuration I command you to depart from this house and cause it to be as hateful and intolerable to you, as the man, who knowingly bears false witness or pronounces an unjust sentence, is to God.” Sometimes the exorcism was in the form of a prayer, as, for example, in that used for the purgation and disinfection of springs and water-courses: “O Lord Jesus, thou who didst bless the river Jordan and wast baptized in it and hast purified and cleansed it to the end that it might be a healing element for the redemption from sin, bless, sanctify and purify this water, so that there may be left in it nothing noxious, nothing pestiferous or contagious, nothing pernicious, but that everything in it may be pure and immaculate, in order that we may use whatever[Pg 122] is created in it for our welfare and to thy glory, through our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.”

    Ass:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_140:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_151

    Mule:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_147

    OX:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_162
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_165
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_169
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_171
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_183

    Pig:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_109
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_137
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_140
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_142, 143, 144, 145
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_155, 156, 157
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_336 (french)
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_340 (french)
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_346 (french)
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_352 (french)
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_353 (french)
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_354 (french)

    Flies:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_28 & 29
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_110 & 111
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_125

    Grasshopper:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_107

    Heifers:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_149

    Locusts:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_3
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_65
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_93 & 94
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_107
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_136

    Mare:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_148 (near the end)
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_149 (also near the end)
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_162

    Mice & Moles:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_112
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_131
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_132 & 133
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_307

    Here is a more exhaustive list of references, condemnations and prosecutions of various animals. You can jump from animal to animal by search “===”. As well there were too many refernces to vermines so I did not compile them. Lots of instances of prosecutions pigs/sow/swine but I did manage to capture most of them.

    Beetles & Bears:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_30

    Bitch/dog?:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_149
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_344

    Bull:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_139
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_161
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_162
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_358

    Caterpillars:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_122

    Cock:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_10 & 11
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_12
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_162

    Cow:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_148
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_149 (multiple animals)
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_169
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_361

    Dog/Bitch:
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_167
    Page: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_176, 177 & 178
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_313
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_360
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_344

    Bull:
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_358

    Sow:
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_356
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_346
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_338
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_335
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_140
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_142:

    Pig/Swine:
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_354
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_353
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_352
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_350
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_342
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_340
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_336
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43286/43286-h/43286-h.htm#Page_140

    Bull:
    More than three centuries later the same means were employed for curing murrain, which in the summer of 1796 had broken out at Beutelsbach in Würtemberg and carried off many head of cattle. By the advice of a French veterinary doctor, who was quartered there with[Pg 139] the army of General Moreau, the town bull was buried alive at the crossroads in the presence of several hundred persons. We are not informed whether this sacrifice proved to be a sufficiently “powerful medicine” to stay the epizoötic plague; the noteworthy fact is that the superstitious rite was prescribed and performed, not by an Indian magician or an African sorcerer, but by an official of the French republic.

    Locust:
    In the latter case one of the largest of the locusts was seized and tried and then put to death by being thrown into the water with anathemas on the whole species. A few years ago swarms of locusts devastated the region near Kallipolis in Turkey, and a petition was sent by the Christian population to the monks of Mount Athos begging them to bear in solemn procession through the fields the girdle of St. Basilius, in order to expel the insects. This request was granted, and as the locusts gradually disappeared, because there was little or nothing left for them to eat, the orthodox of the Greek Church from the bishop to the humblest laymen firmly believed or at least maintained that a[Pg 137] miracle had been wrought. Pious Mohammedans exorcise and ostracize locusts and other harmful insects by reading the Koran aloud in the ravaged fields, as was recently done at Denislue in Asia Minor with satisfactory results

    Cock:
    Osenbrüggen’s statement that the cock condemned to be burned at Bâle was personified as a heretic (Ketzer) and therefore sentenced to the stake, is a far-fetched and wholly fanciful explanation. As we have already seen, the unfortunate fowl, suspected of laying an egg in violation of its nature, was feared as an abnormal, inauspicious, and therefore[Pg 12] diabolic creature; the fatal cockatrice, which was supposed to issue from this egg when hatched, and the use which might be made of its contents for promoting intercourse with evil spirits, caused such a cock to be dreaded as a dangerous purveyor to His Satanic Majesty, but no member of the Kohlenberg Court ever thought of consigning Chanticleer to the flames as the peer of Wycliffe or of Huss in heresy.

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        Clive
        December 2, 2019 @ 1:12 pm

        Thanks for all of the animals as people being prosecuted links Shalin I’ve made a summary list!!!

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    Jessica Antunese
    November 28, 2019 @ 3:47 pm

    RE: “showing how the human acupuncture points/places not only also match up with some ley lines they also match up with various star systems too i.e. in the latter case aspects of the ‘heavens’ which will then allow the EAAS ‘universe’ to generate/use emissions from these star systems to mess with peoples subtle form and then through this the human body processes/functions!!!”

    Interesting info… all this reminded me of astrology in general and made me think about how it could work. And it reminded me mostly of the Human Design system which was channeled to a guy from Canada in the 80’s (this must be why it’s relatively little known).

    That system precisely mixes or combines I’Ching’s divinatory system, with astrology, with the (pertinent) Kabbalistic tree of life and with the Hindu chakra system (the latter 2 suggesting connotations with our interfacing… by the way, the meaning of name Kabbalah is literally “that which is received”).

    Each person’s Human Design Chart or BodyGraph (which according to the description translates to “a graphic illustration of the energetic flow within your system, a blueprint for how you operate and interact with the world”) is then defined according to the configuration of the stars and the ascendant at the birth time.

    Since each point on the Zodiac Astrological Wheel matches with one of the 64 I’Ching hexagrams (number which very interestingly corresponds to the number of all possible combinations that codons in DNA can assume (also 64)…), so according to each astrological position on our Natal Chart, we will have associated or activated in us several I’Ching hexagrams.

    It is therefore the hexagrams we have activated or associated with us, and the pairings they make (because each hexagram pair with another one, making 32 pairs (at least in human design)) that will define the kind of characteristics which, according to what was suggested, could very well “come down” to us here throughout the interfacing from the stars, and that will also dictate whether each of our 9 centers is defined or undefined (9 centers which have a direct correspondence with the Hindu traditional 7 chakras, with the detail that there are 2 more, one which they call Spleen and another called G center).

    According to what I read, (which was all encrypted……), the more undefined our ‘centers’ are (which is determined by the hexagrams we have or not active, or the gates as they call), the less consistent their energy flow is, and also the reliability of certain functions or aspects related to the center involved, and also the greater the pressure we feel when expressing their energy……. that is supposedly reflected in our dispositions and behaviors…

    Now they actually associate each of the 9 centers with all sorts of aspects of us and our functioning, including organs of our physical body… which actually suggests that each of these 9 centers is associated with the basic functions of our subtle form with direct correspondence with our functions in the physical body…. and I wonder how much such an indefiniteness of our centers would not be related to certain problems in our subtle form and their manifestation in our physical body?

    For example, I met a woman who besides being very impulsive to speak, had several problems that are associated with throat chakra unbalances (bad breath, frequent abscesses and few teeth), when I found her birth day, I made her Human Design Chart and found that out of the 11 hexagrams or gates related to throat/expression center, she had NO ONE active, making her throat center totally undefined…

    In my specific case, my G center (related to the sense of self) is also totally undefined, and I literally live incorporated…. and not knowing exactly by whom or how many?……

    I would not be surprised that, according to the ‘debilitations’ that people already have, the period between lives mafia, through the day of birth, configured the influences that enter through susceptible points of our interfacing and/or subtle form, precisely to make it easier for us to fuck even more (and all with the excuse of the evolution bullshit and the overcoming of what are termed “defects/imperfections”, towards an ideal defined by someone (probably some dictator)….. or perhaps also so that people can be molded toward something convenient… I would also not be surprised that they also interfered in the way we are interfaced, precisely so that the desired effects were more consistent (both for lack and excess…) (and in fact, the presence of undefined centers in the BodyGraph, which makes one’s own energy quite inaccessible, suggests precisely that)…

    (and i got Java scrip error again… and again…)

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        Clive
        November 29, 2019 @ 6:37 pm

        Jessica (+ REGULARS) . . Jessica, this is a very good ‘connected’ summary of different angles . . .

        I’ve checked ‘yet again’ the java script angles ‘AND’ yet again I cannot find anything obvious or even oblique . . . so, do what I do, which is to ‘write’ the comment separately i.e. NOT IN THE COMMENT BOX ITSELF but in word or wordpad etc and then once written then copy paste and ‘post it’ . . . ‘then’ if is doesn’t actually post/seem to post try again and if you’re still not sure send it to me by e-mail with the post URL/TITLE it’s to be posted on!!!!

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    Shalin
    November 30, 2019 @ 12:41 am

    Clive, related to Jessica’s comments regarding astrology/I-ching. Not so long ago I went to an astrologer who practices a different kind of astrology than typical vedic astrology. Instead of using gemstones to balance the planetary blockages/misalignments within my astrology chart (which is what typical vedic astrologers do) he gave me print outs of symbols and objects to place in the inside of my closet.

    Here are the images/symbols:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/1mf53jzcyl3np7y/astrology.jpeg

    I relay this in concern that the images/symbols too are some sort of backdoors into me, although lately I’ve been having lots of paranoid thoughts about everything being a backdoor into me – especially a gemstone I was given by an astrologer I saw long ago. The name of the stone is Hessonite and it is a type of garnet and used to strengthen the Rahu vedic planet, which actually is a fictitious/invisible planet in vedic astrology.

    Of course the Hessonite didnt do shit for me but wore it nonetheless until recently when I broke my chain while doing qigong.

    We also have various crystals/stones around the house and I’ve become obsessed with every tv show/film I watch trying to find clues as possible backdoors.

    After I sent you a list of films with tree/portal angles I haven’t been able to get them out of my mind. The *Being John Malkovich* film where a portal in his closet gains access to his nervous system keeps coming up in my mind. But that could be because my mind is connecting my physical ailments with anything that matches since my nervous system/kidneys/adrenals/liver are all shot to hell/blocked.

    I also find myself spending hours on google searching for films/tv shows/books that have some linkage to trees, portals & subtle beings being interfaced to them. There are many such things – lot of it in Japanese anime with tree like beings called Druids for instance but I haven’t found a direct match with Dante’s Hell. Also how trees connect to everything in a sacred grove but this may be related with neural-networks/dendrite structures and how they span out and connect every tree.

    In that light I wonder whether the remaining 350 kr/cp people are all connected via dendrite structures which when one is set free from the management the SIM quickly gains backdoor access to that individual through the neural-networks/dendrite structures connecting all of us.

    Reply    

        Clive
        December 2, 2019 @ 12:30 pm

        As there are ‘backdoors’ into every aspect of EVERYTHING related to all aspects of ourselves then it’s not worth worrying about Shalin!!!

        Reply    

    Jessica Antunes
    December 5, 2019 @ 12:41 pm

    RE “At some point in our past maybe sometime in the late 18th century and or early 19th century all ‘intelligent’ interfaced to an animal of all types WHOM WEREN’T HUMAN were all converted/transformed INSTANTLY into humans i.e. before this time humans we’re in very small numbers mixed in with a lot of other intelligent species!!!”

    Hum… in speaking of the 18th and 19th centuries as the time when this conversion would have taken place, are you speaking in a merely hypothetical way or are you in fact trying to give your best prediction?

    Actually, I had already suspected the mythological gods or deities scattered across diverse cultures around the world as having actually existed… And to be honest, when you referred to this transformation in your initial comment, I thought it was actually likely that it had occurred at a time when these deities possibly walked the earth thousands of years ago…

    I have evidence of being a Naga in India for example (an ugly thing of this kind, in a female version probably even uglier than the one in the image https://www.pngfans.com/middle-bd13e7ec20ce15ce-snake-human.html ), hence animals have distinguished themselves into intelligent and non-intelligent, because some had a brain size that allowed them to manifest greater intelligence and others not…

    It’s that the implications of having occurred such a conversion recently are VERY disconcerting… because everything in our historical records has to do with us as human beings… from archaeological records to the design of our most varied objects (that have evolved over time always in an adapted to the human form way), to what is implicit in historical descriptions and accounts, to paintings and works of art in general, etc… IN ADDITION to people seeing themselves as human beings when accessing their past lives (sometimes even because they have direct memories of it) or when encountering versions/entities from their own or others as incorporation of psychological/soul aspects from past lives…

    Therefore, having recently occurred such a transformation would imply that ALL these aspects have been CHANGED (what should have been hard monumental work!!!)… and which would imply that all past records we currently have are FALSE, including our memories and/or from aspects of us!!!

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        Clive
        December 8, 2019 @ 3:34 am

        The conversion from a majority of ‘intelligent’ interfaced animals to humans definitely happened sometime in the past, I just don’t know when specifically. Yea, the main problem is that it would require absolutely ‘EVERYTHING’ to be converted/translated not just the bodies but all clothes, tools etc. etc. used by different intelligent animals etc. etc. all pictures, loads of descriptions in books etc. etc. . . . plus all of our/everyone’s memories too . . . I only had one past life here (a Mayan one 2000+ years ago) that I realised that I was an animal (a big cat Jaguar).

        The next/current page I’m writing is very focused on the God’s/Deities which are representing ‘overseers/facilitators/helpers/guidance’ for earlier incarnated people of different cultures early incarnation efforts.

        Well, ‘intelligence’ if you think about it for an subtle form interfaced to any animal, a tree or a peanut depends entirely on the intelligence of the subtle form not what it’s interfacing too nor the size of anything’s brain either as brain power can be supplied from elsewhere as it were!!!! I don’t think I’ve been any snake type thing though!!!!

        You’d be amazed as to how much of archaeology and or ancient history is very carefully selected to avoid all of the things that don’t add up. For example when they converted all of the different intelligent dead animals bodies/remains/bones into human versions they forgot to adjust for size too – hahhahha, likely deliberately so we’ve skeletons of very small humans as well as seriously big humans too (imagine an intelligent giraffe or an elephant or even a very large horse skeleton being converted into a human)??

        This ‘past’ language page on it’s own makes a good case for the subtle/spirt form representing our real selves ‘just’ on the past language alone!!! Yea, the transformation effort is very comprehensive which makes me suspect that they let that one book through, although it’s contents in being so specific to animal activities (locusts or other insects eating grain) would have been difficult to convert to a human only perspective!!!!

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            Jessica Antunes
            December 12, 2019 @ 4:31 pm

            RE “Well, ‘intelligence’ if you think about it for an subtle form interfaced to any animal, a tree or a peanut depends entirely on the intelligence of the subtle form not what it’s interfacing too nor the size of anything’s brain either as brain power can be supplied from elsewhere as it were!!!!”

            What makes me think that the physical form brain capacity has something to do with the subtle being ability to express and manifest their real cognitive abilities and attributes is the acknowledgement of some very interesting phenomena… for example:

            When people have dementias, what happens is a degeneration of their physical brain structures, which in practice results in the loss of various cognitive functions (depending on the affected areas) and the consequent inability to partially or fully manifest the respective associated consciousness attributes……

            Thus, dementias (as well as brain injuries and brain birth defects) can make the subtle being intercfaced to the damaged physical body unable to, for example, access its own past memories of experiences lived in the present life, or to be unable to form new ones as it have new experiences (or instead, unable to access newly formed memories somewhere?)… These can also result in the inability of the consciousness conditioned by physical structures to reason coherently, or in the inability to reason at all… or, for example, to speak…

            Another example, I once had a cockatiel and a rooster as pets… and when they died, they as a subtle body (or at least as one of their subtle bodies) chose to always be with me wherever I went… the really bizarre thing here is that it was only when they died that they started talking just as anyone does… and even drawing (which apparently is the rooster hobby)…! But what’s interesting is that when they were alive they behaved like any dumb animal!

            However, since you must have your reasons for assuming that the “brain power can be supplied from elsewhere as it were”…… could my pet friends actually have made better use of their limited brain structures compared to their peers???

            There is actually something very interesting about the idea you convey related to the manifestation of intelligence in the physical, which is…. the assumption that subtle forms differ greatly in their intelligence levels….. so (since you refer somewhere to the existence of subtle races… and also… to the existence of some kind of subtle lice that reproduces…) I wonder if you would have any idea if subtle forms in their natural and real state (not as subtle avatars) would be distinguished from each other in an equivalent way to how the various physical species are distinguished here from each other?
            —————-

            Re “Yea, the transformation effort is very comprehensive which makes me suspect that they let that one book through, although it’s contents in being so specific to animal activities (locusts or other insects eating grain) would have been difficult to convert to a human only perspective!!!!”

            About that book “THE CRIMINAL PROSECUTION AND CAPITAL PUNISHMENT OF ANIMALS”, there is still the chance that it did not need to be converted… if its content is not actually representing criminal persecution efforts towards what at that time would be perceived as intelligent animals (as one might assume at the outset)…?

            Some excerpts from the book actually seem to reveal that, in light of the Christian mentality of that time, animals were seen as instruments which were eventually used by the devil to cause trouble, or even as incarnations of the devil himself, hence it was appropriate for them to have the animals condemned, because, in their view, what was being condemned was actually the devil himself and/or his demons…

            (or perhaps this, the explanation for animal prosecution, was already the result of the translation efforts (however… we must not forget that christians were really insane))…

            According to a Doctor angelicus “the lower animals are satellites of Satan instigated by the powers of hell and therefore proper to be cursed,”
            Chassenée refers to this opinion in the treatise already cited (I. § 75), and adds “the anathema then is not to be pronounced against the animals as such, but should be hurled inferentially (per modum conclusionis) at the devil, who makes use of irrational creatures to our detriment.”
            After these quotes, the narrative proceeds with the following: “This notion seems to have been generally accepted in the Middle Ages, and the fact that evil spirits are often mentioned in the Bible metaphorically or symbolically as animals and assumed to be incarnate in the adder, the asp, the basilisk, the dragon, the lion, the leviathan, the serpent, the scorpion, etc., was considered confirmatory of this view.” – page 55

            Other references that point to this reasoning:
            “the good Catholic becomes an efficient co-worker with God by maltreating brutes and thus aiding the Almighty in punishing the devils, of which they are the visible and bruisable forms. Whatever pain is inflicted is felt, not by the physical organism, but by the animated spirit. It is the embodied demon that really suffers, howling in the beaten dog and squealing in the butchered pig.” – page 83
            “In the question under discussion the argument is not subject to such limitations, but gathers testimony from all races and religions, showing that there is not a civilized nation or savage tribe on the face of the earth, which does not regard or has not regarded the lower animals as embodiments of evil spirits and sought to propitiate them. That “the devil is an ass” is a truth so palpable that it has passed into a proverb. Baal-zebub means fly-god; and the Christian Satan betrays his presence by the cloven foot of the goat or the solid hoof of the horse. In folk-lore, which is the débris of exploded mythologies adrift on the stream of popular tradition, cats, dogs, otters, apes, ravens, blackcocks, capercailzies, rabbits, hedgehogs, wolves, were-wolves, foxes, polecats, swine, serpents, toads, and countless varieties of insects, reptiles and vermin figure as incarnations and instruments of the devil” – page 85

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                Clive
                December 29, 2019 @ 1:39 am

                Everything is very, VERY mixed up here in insane ways Jessica, as the EAAS is about re-programming everyone, then we all also have versions of ourselves interfaced to pets too, hence then most pets seem more responsive and or intelligent than they actually ‘really’ are (or ‘should’ be).

    Shalin
    December 8, 2019 @ 9:03 pm

    Clive, you may also want to investigate vajrayana buddhism (unless you have already), which is Tibetan buddhism. It is filled with mysticism and deities of all kinds, many who serve as protector deities, obstacle removers, even healers and much much more.

    I attended many many Chod practices https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%B6d and Mountain Smoke Offerings https://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?title=Riwo_Sangch%C3%B6 but none of that did anything for me. I consulted with a Tibetan astrologer 2 years ago and he said that I may have offended/hurt the *earth lords* http://spiritgrooves.net/pdf/e-books/Tibetan-Earth-Lords.pdf and I needed to perform puja’s and rituals to appease them in order to be free of this health crisis. Of course I did all that yet did nothing for me. Interesting enough there was a lady that attended a Tibetan temple that I use to go to who became gravely ill. The head monk there invited 12 other monks and together they did a series of rituals to free her from her ailment/illness. Remarkably, within a week she started to recover and within a month she was completely healthy.

    Perhaps she was simulating someone who experienced similar in the original population and recovered because that is what is written in her scripts. I haven’t had that luck unfortunately…

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        Clive
        December 13, 2019 @ 12:46 pm

        Reply+Hacking++ Update . . . Yea, Shalin the Tibetans are ‘special/a one off’ Shalin, within the entire self propagating data system within which our MVOS is but one of many (although our specific EAAS MV version is a ‘deviant’ one off designed within a MV off to one side of the main data structure/setup within a separate and ‘extra’ side branch) . . . so, after 50 million ‘subtle’ years some specific culture within EVERY MV WITHIN THIS DATA SYSTEM finds themselves magically feeling compelled to design/build the next ‘underMV’ . . . now when I first became aware of this my reaction was WTF, there is no way that this would result in an ultra consistent/same design/repeating pattern outcomes . . . however, as the selected XXX culture work on the design it turns out that no matter what they design and or then implement as their own MV version/variation it’s always magically replaced on startup by a Tibetan version whom spend there time as permanent subtle beings whose ‘job/aim’ seem to be to make sure that everything within the data system AND each experiment works as it’s supposed to so that it all stays on track, that each MV is of the same/correct MV design and that the same repeating propagation structure continues as well as the correct/base MV design parameters all stay the same AND that each lower MV base population are always duplicates of the MV above AND each duplicated persons life by and large always unfolds based on there previous upper versions lives too.

        As this is what (in the normal MV’s) the ‘Tibetans’ specifically always do then they have a way, way, way better/more accurate idea of the entire nested, propagating, cascading MV focused data structure and also the base/repeated everywhere (except here) MV design than anyone else . . . despite that their diagrams/explanations are made to be exceptionally cryptic/impossible to understand in the correct context!!!

        However, it’s very odd that ‘here’ within the EAAS they have also been incarnated (i.e. they are having a physical life), which I’m very sure that they shouldn’t be or more accurately they never incarnate in the main/normal self propagating data system MV’s. Basically, our deranged off the rails side branch ‘shit’ MV version has only been allowed to be designed because it serves the purposes of the data system owners/administrators whom are of course way, way, way up over!!!!

        I’m actually 95+% sure that we’re in a very specifically designed and utterly deranged one off side MV that’s been put together to very specific specification (defined by those way up over) specifically as part of some gaining experience/expertise of hacking/combating hacking efforts project.

        For example as part of our hacking efforts we’ve kept coming across shit that is exceptionally difficult if not impossible to hack specifically because it’s targeting vulnerabilities within the processors and or data structure/data handling systems i.e. some shit uses these types of ‘advantages’ which are basically pretty standard data/computer system hacking/attack techniques. Some shit versions we’ve dealt for example have brute forced i.e. thrown/blitzed very specific parts/functions of the EAAS operating system with very specific data/instruction combinations such that it overloads these functions in very specific ways that then result in ‘unexpected’ outcomes which then make it exceptionally difficult to track these outcomes. We’ve also had another technique which I call ‘incompatible component’ errors when two processing/data components are ‘somehow’ made to be forced to interact in ways that are abnormal for the data structures/processing functions trying to handle them such that these efforts also then result in ‘unexpected’ outcomes (which can then be tweaked to be used in ways that result in useful outcomes to those that discover these) . . . in the past we’ve dealt with ‘shit’ sets every so often that uses sets of these types of ‘advantages’ however in the last few months rather then a few 100 or maybe even 10000’s of these at a time we’ve had millions (the last mega big set of these was 3 or 4 weeks ago now had about 45 million sets of these) to neutralise these those way up over in the data system have to redesign our MV hardware so that these no longer work . . . without causing us to spill our coffee etc. etc. while this is being done either!!!

        So, the above very much suggests to me that the designers/owners of the data system we are in are having external hackers/hacking problems!!!!

        Chats with those way, way, way up over ‘seem’ to confirm this!!!! Which to be honest makes what we are in even more of a piss take than I was already aware of i.e. those that designed our own ‘local’ off to one side MV actually designed it (very likely unknowingly) to ‘OTHERS’ very specific ‘SHIT’ specifications so that we end up living within such a shit system that it’s easy to have someone get suspicious (i.e. me) and particularly as the person I’m a copy of tracked and remotely monitored the EAAS as it was being designed/built and then also very likely knew it was going to be shit too!!!!

        We are still dealing with a big mess of ‘extras’ hidden/mixed in with peoples persona/behaviour and trauma data stores that have all been mixed together as one big amorphous cloud!!!! Last time I checked I was getting that all shit versions hidden/integrated within this have by and large been tamed/neutralised however they’re still working on trying to get access to the persona/personal behaviours/attitudes/temperaments/responses etc all mixed in with specific trauma/extremes in combinations and in ways to make it as difficult as possible to ‘release/alter’ these . . .

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    Shalin
    December 8, 2019 @ 9:13 pm

    I forgot to mention I also attended many Vajrakilaya puja’s to appease Vajrakilaya who is a protector/destroyer of all obstacles, similar to the role Ganesha plays in hinduism.

    https://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?title=Vajrakilaya

    Of course he destroyed none of that which was an obstacle for me. haha.

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    Tommy
    December 9, 2019 @ 3:13 am

    Clive I don’t wanna be a cunt but Hermes is not the god of healing. he’s not known for it. He’s the god who plays tricks. The Americans took the caduceus as a symbol of healing that’s the piss take. The caduceus comes from something Babylonian. It’s you’d prolly guess it a tree.

    The legit symbol of healing is the rod of Asclepius the son of his brother Apollo. Just one python on a stick Asclepius got killed because he revived people hades got huffy like I don’t get new folks in my realm. Zeus solved it like he solves everything with his fucking thunderbolt. Zeus is Hermes dad. Hermes is the messenger boy the trickster the liar he has a big portfolio boxing kids travelers animal husbandry running.

    but he mostly just goofs off is a jerk. Hermes is snarky jerky adhd hyperactive sugar addict likes to gamble likes his porn is bisexual as hell likes em young like his dad. Can be nice most of the times he’s a asshole. Has a fucked sense of humor. Dude had someone worship him for like 20 years he was running around with a statute of him he was very poor. He got angry flung the statue and I turned into money. He did help Odysseus with Circe because Odysseus was his kid.

    Someone squeeled he was trying to fuck a river nymph and he turned that guy into hawk so remember that’s also in the realm of possibilities.

    The legit god of healing is Apollo he also does prophecy archery music. Is known for his shitty dating life. Has the muses hanging around.

    Speaking about thievery and lying guess what I did since I was 9. Always the wrong shit my intentions are criminally inclined. Hermes comes in two forms young teen or old dude with beard.

    My shaman said I had problems with Hermes dad because I did something in his energy field. Like I told you I have no fucking clue what I did after the lsd. Shaman wouldn’t explain wtf I did. What would make more sense is that Hermes swiped your arm like you described I think the bozo who nicked your arm was Hermes.

    You did meet Athena right also you said she was kinda chubby and part of the rusty ray gang. I’d have a chat with her. Be honest she likes wisdom display what you found out. Hermes is for dodgy things. Kinda like Loki remember that Clive Hermes loves to play tricks on mortals and gods. don’t fall for his bullshit.

    What wouldn’t suprise me is if the guy who visited you ow I can do healings was Hermes himself. They have a funny sense of humor I had three 4 weird visits of people I thought I knew but some things didn’t add up deities sometimes come around as humans keep that in mind.

    Remember don’t ask to see them in their real form that’s what the mom of Dionysus got killed. Stay clear of the majority of the Greek deities because they have short tempers won’t answer questions and take offense very fast. I guess Athena would be safe Nyx would be scary but she’s the only one Zeus is afraid of so that might worth having a chat. Shaman said I had affinity with the underworld. Which is weird because I don’t like death or earthy cavernous things. Underworld is hades his realm only one who have access to that are Hermes Hades Persephone Hecate Nyx. Well and ereshkigal. As far as I know I’m persona non grata with all Greek deities they don’t like me.

    I don’t wanna be whiny because your super busy but I asked you this already a dozen times Clive I need you to check what in the flying fuck happened with me because i can’t make sense of it.

    Also check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ningishzida there is your caduceus since we are going back to Babylonian watch out for Enki and Enlil and his mates. Those are your shyster Elohims. Happy hunting mate

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        Clive
        December 18, 2019 @ 4:26 pm

        Hi, Tommy(+update of sorts), I’ve had to think quite a bit about your comment before I ‘maybe’ managed to figure it out!!!

        The ‘Hermes’ sighting incident happened 20+ years ago around the time the internet just got started so the ‘God’s information likely wouldn’t be that comprehensive nor maybe accurate . . . so, a few things . . .

        On checking my notes on potential past life possibilities I’ve found I’d written details of Asclepius, which then has me remembering that I’d become suspicious about the Hermes line and done some checking likely a few years later!!! Also, the guy seeing/describing me as ‘Hermes’ was doing this with a look of astonishment/WTF on his face, which implied that he wasn’t making it up and that then maybe in a sense it was being channeled through him!!!! Which has ‘misdirected’ me somewhat . . .

        The ‘Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell’ series is likely representing a sort of generic shit ‘template’ of pre-defined FU possibilities used to cause as many problems as possible specifically between very competent subtle forms (aka decent magic focused people as well as ‘Gods’ ) . . . i.e. I suspect that both he AND myself were being ‘messed with/used’ . . . also, likely 4/5 years after this I ended up spending some time talking to this guy in depth and he unbelievably spent all of his time talking about all of the people/circumstances he’d covertly manipulated and or actually set up resulting in him causing all of them very serious problems . . . In other words, like you write, it DOES seems to me that he’s a very, very good candidate for ‘The Trickster’!!!

        You then bizarrely ask a question “what in the flying fuck happened with me” that you/we already know the answer to . . . i.e. dollhouse imprints that could have you doing all sorts of shit and then we’ve the ‘Psychonaut’ sites psychedelic/drug shit too . . . on the other hand many people from the Dollhouse background also seem to then end up working on the EAAS . . . and from your knowledge of God’s you’d be a very likely candidate to have been working on the EAAS God’s interactions Tommy!!!! Which I’m getting is correct!!!!

        At the same time I get your comment I get an e-mail from a Michel B whose a Native American which if you remember I wrote a comment somewhere recentlyish about the NA and the Gypsies being two populations of the very same ‘subtle’ competent people being put into circumstances to FO them all!!!!

        I being reminded of the Gypsy/Native American FU efforts I then realised that they’ll also have predefined shit networks that will have been working full time (for centuries) making things as difficult as possible for them all . . . AND I then remembered that many NA tribes have a totem pole i.e. a TREE symbol and on checking YES this is also symbolically representing yet another tree of life/knowledge/subtle interfacing backdoor AND that these specific FU networks have actually also been ‘converted/adapted’ into a more sophisticated form to be used to mess/FO the remaining core key people the EAAS is still trying to lock down . . .

        So, thanks Tommy and Michel B for the well timed ‘pointers’ as I needed these to figure out some of the origins/details of the remaining amorphous cloud shit, still focused on maintaining worrying key people to target it, which I did about 4/5 days ago now . . . unfortunately it’s all ‘still in progress’ as the ‘cloud’ shit is exceptionally competent and still difficult to pin down!!!!

        ALSO: Overall recently myself and a few others I know are having some aspect of past events and or specific experiences investigated (very likely for there knock on accumulated effects on other issues). So, in the last 2/3 days I’ve been in at least two sets of distant past things, another has found themselves put back into a loss/grief incident from decades ago . . . I suspect that this will only be happening for those people whose more serious shit sets have been reduced somewhat such that they are in more background effects!!!!

        ————————-

        I’ve also got another page in a decentish state, such that I’ll likely post it here within a few days that shows how all of the different types/categories of early God’s ‘interests/jobs’ are all focused on facilitating the early subtle population that find themselves interfaced to an alien physical animal form to live within an alien world/environment with respect to EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF EARTH LIFE/LIVING ON A PLANET that would be very, very, very different and hence then be exceptionally difficult for the first incarnated subtle forms to adapt too i.e. they’d need support for the first 2/3 incarnations/physical live’s to adapt to all the physical life circumstances differences . . . and particularly to every facet of any/all earth experience that would be different to how they’ve habitually lived as subtle being in the subtle environment for literally millions of years i.e. they’d all have automatic embedded habitual subtle experiences that are exceptionally different to anything/everything they’d find in the physical . . .

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    Megan
    December 14, 2019 @ 11:58 pm

    Thanks for the update Clive. I’ve been wondering what has been going on this last month or so. Things have been strange. Things at work have been awful, and the last paragraph of your comment certainly explains why. I’ve been dealing with a lot of personality/temperament/attitude/head/mental issues, more so at work than anywhere else. There was an incident at work a couple weeks ago that made me feel awful, and the whole incident bugged me for a week until I realized that the events that happened where specifically designed to ‘punish’ me. These last couple of weeks, it feels like things have been becoming more confining and controlling. To give an example, within the last two weeks they have implemented a new Lean manufacturing auditing system where the employees of the same department audit each other to note problems and come up with solutions. It is supposed to be about the process, not the person, and I was the first one to volunteer (unless that was misunderstood) and since then my training has been inconsistent and I have been constantly farmed out to other departments. Yet the one time I was audited, and this was by another woman in my department with my supervisor over-shadowing, it felt more like an interrogation than an audit. I felt intimidated and completely jumbled mentally. I was asked a lot of questions and couldn’t answer clearly. In the end, I felt humiliated, and like I made a huge fool of myself. After each audit, notes for improvement are written on a white board where they are reviewed by the group and implemented, and the following day when we all reviewed what was noted from my audit, my supervisor made some off-handed comment about it ‘not being painful,’ when I still felt humiliated and angry. The second time I’ve done an audit my supervisor overlooked but didn’t say much of anything. I was auditing an area I had no experience in and again I felt inadequate and intimidated and my mind was just blank. My supervisor helped a little but didn’t say much, and at the end of the audit I made a comment about how beautiful my co-worker’s work was which was probably inappropriate but the whole situation was weird. Again, the next day reviewing the findings of the audit, my supervisor at the end going over what was expected from these interactions, and he commented on how saying how someone’s work is ‘pretty’ does not lead to anything helpful or valuable to the customer. Yet again, I felt like I had been indirectly singled out, or maybe I’m just being bitter, petty and paranoid.

    Thinking on all of this reminded me of the confrontation I had with the machine operator at my old job. A co-worker, who I thought I could trust and who I had vented to out of frustration, told this machine operator that I said she was mean (which according to my memories is accurate,) and the machine operator came back with, “…You think you are a victim.” Which hit me hard. It wasn’t until reading this most recent page that I even thought to look up the etymology for the word ‘victim’ and I get,

    “late 15c., “living creature killed and offered as a sacrifice to a deity or supernatural power, or in the performance of a religious rite;” from Latin victima “sacrificial animal; person or animal killed as a sacrifice,” a word of uncertain origin. Perhaps related to vicis “turn, occasion” (as in vicarious), if the notion is an “exchange” with the gods. Perhaps distantly connected to Old English wig “idol,” Gothic weihs “holy,” German weihen “consecrate” (compare Weihnachten “Christmas”) on notion of “a consecrated animal.”
    Sense of “person who is hurt, tortured, or killed by another” is recorded from 1650s; meaning “person oppressed by some power or situation, person ruined or greatly injured or made to suffer in the pursuit of an object, or for the gratification of a passion or infatuation, or from disease or disaster” is from 1718. Weaker sense of “person taken advantage of, one who is cheated or duped” is recorded from 1781.”

    Funny enough, the word seemed accurate for what has been going on because it seems like my very existence belongs to some god or other being, and they are pissed off with me.

    “We are still dealing with a big mess of ‘extras’ hidden/mixed in with peoples persona/behaviour and trauma data stores that have all been mixed together as one big amorphous cloud!!!!”

    Weekends are my ‘Going Within, No People’ time, and this morning when I woke up, I could feel and see myself standing before this giant cloud like thing in the back of my mind. At first I thought it was a ghost, kind of like Casper, but it didn’t seem to have an individual intelligence. Needless to say, today has been a very interesting day so far. Thanks again for the update.

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    Megan
    December 26, 2019 @ 3:11 am

    The word anime in Japan according to etymology online,

    “c. 1985, Japanese for “animation,” a word that seems to have arisen in Japan in the 1970s, apparently based on French animé “animated, lively, roused,” from the same Latin source as English animate (adj.). Probably taken into Japanese from a phrase such as dessin animé “cartoon,” literally “animated design,” with the adjective abstracted or mistaken, due to its position, as a noun. “

    Thinking on this reminded me of the anime Castle in the Sky by Hayao Miyazaki. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_in_the_Sky

    Laputa, the floating city in the sky, was abandoned by its inhabitants for the earth between 600-700 years ago, and was protected by a storm with winds that blew in two opposing directions. It flourished with plant life and animals and at the heart of the city was a giant tree as well as a giant crystal that housed and controlled the city’s advanced technology. The weapons of mass destruction were said to be the cause of the fire that rained down on Sodom and Gomorrah from Heaven.

    Although the article says that the movie has references to other things, I remember talking to a friend of mine who is a huge anime buff, he said the movie was a reference to the legend of Atlantis, though I don’t know where he got his information from.

    Another tree reference I thought of while writing this was the maypole. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maypole#Malta

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    Clive
    December 30, 2019 @ 4:51 pm

    UPDATED FOCUS VERSION: It’s using system vulnerabilities (brute forcing etc) to be able to do impossible things/function in impossible ways . . .

    ” . . . anything acting as a gate keeper or ‘guardian’, and or has details of and or is actively using absolutely any base MVOS system defects/vulnerabilities specifically in ways to give itself ‘advantages/super powers/super functioning abilities’ and or is otherwise limiting, controlling and or moderating awareness of, understanding of and or is otherwise blocking full access to absolutely any facet of ITSELF/IT’S FUNCTIONING and or is contributing to keeping hidden/obscured it’s selection/choice of and or means of deployment of any trt’s and or trt combinations and particularly any representing any type and or combinations of trauma, fears, stress, tension, insecurity and or anxiety or absolutely any ‘behaviour, reaction/action and or automatic response and or trigger’ and or absolutely anything else that has already been and or could or would be used to manipulate/make myself/me/us/anyone automatically react and or respond/behave in certain very specific ways, under very specific conditions and particularly as part of achieving very specific immediate and or short or long terms outcomes/goals and particularly with respect to controlling, conditioning and or modifying the overt and or subliminal responses and or behaviours of myself and or others and particularly anyone reading/working with this/the above . . . “

    ————————————————————————

    Part of a hacking update from Tom giving you some idea of how sophisticated the current shit version actually is . . .

    ” . . . I do the focus five more times and there’s nothing at first . . . then very gradually, it begins to feel as if the structure of reality is somehow ‘crystalline’ . . . then I engage with what feels like a crystal maze which seems to exist only for a hundredth or a thousandth of a second, and then disappear again, and this crystal maze seems to be made OUT of specific people, so that each person is sort of representing or part of a specific local network of tunnels, which then leads into other tunnels. It feels as if it could be their ‘trt’s / pre-defined persona behaviours / interactions’ which together, make up this maze.

    Ahhh, in writing that it feels ‘clearer’ somehow, I was wondering how a person can be / represent tunnels in a maze, but a pre-defined behaviour takes someone from one place to another, and a pre-defined interaction takes two or more people from one place to another, and since it’s all PRE-DEFINED, then it’s like a defined ‘tunnel’ taking one or more people from A to B or C to Z. So it feels as if people’s trauma and pre-defined persona behaviours and interactions are stored as part of this crystal maze, which also feels as if it could be advantaged / it definitely seems to be off the radar most of the time, and it’s like it then appears again temporarily / does what it needs to / adjusts people, and then disappears again.

    As I continue with the recursive focuses, it feels like there are other variations of this ultra-secure, locked down “safe” component behind the scenes, which are keeping other macros / components off the radar.

    Now it feels like there are many more of them – I see these “safes” all over the place on my HUD [Tom has an internal ‘Heads Up Display’ that’s used to present ‘VERY’ relevant details/important information (in a ‘visual/understandable/real time’ context) from a ‘hacking/hackers’ perspective]. But it feels like they’re not macros now, but SUB-FUNCTIONS of other, more dominant macros, like something added in to modify or adjust the functioning of specific macros under specific TXYZ conditions. This could fit with what I felt in relation to the “safe” component, that it’s working to keep the macro / macro sub-function as hidden as possible, and that the macro / macro sub-function could also be temporary. Again this feels like there could be something in the actual macro code – either that, or there definitely seems to be a lot of macro shit behind the scenes in the EAAS.

    As I feel in more, I begin to experience these macro sub-functions in a more “interconnected” way, and now it feels like they’re all part of a wider network of macro code, or it feels like when these macro sub-functions are in the “safes”, they’re not strictly “part of the macro code”, but dormant, potential parts of it / things which could adjust it at some point in the future, and manoeuvre its functioning towards SNV objectives.

    I begin to experience these (often hidden / dormant) macro sub-functions as integrated STRATEGICALLY into the wider macro code, then as a distributed, fractionated and ultra-compressed and locked down network . . . it’s like a piggybacking network which has been designed with a deep understanding of how the overall macro code works, and how to compromise it / alter it in imperceptible ways with the least amount of adjustments / alterations. So this part “deep understanding of how the macro code works” makes me think about designs and VR testing of this shit, and that maybe they would have had to set up temporary MV’s or ‘similar’ to test out how to adjust the macro code the way they wanted . . . “

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    Megan
    December 31, 2019 @ 3:12 am

    Notes from the old focus from this morning.

    ‘I think I’m becoming shrewder in a way. I feel a pressure in my heart center and I got the impression that I tried to lock my heart away not out of pain/heartbreak/betrayal, but for some other reason. Energetic deficiency? Am I not taking in a critical energy that is leading me to eat more/different things to make up for it?’

    Trying this new focus throughout the day I don’t necessarily get anything, but I get the impression that what is being targeted is ultra, super fine. I pulled something in my lower back shoveling snow today, and while it hurts, I think it did more ‘good’ because it felt like something emotionally/energetically broke lose, and while I was laying on the floor with an ice pack on my back I felt into the pain for a bit and ‘saw’ someone ‘working’ on my lower back. I’ve been kind of sensitive for the rest of the day since then, but sitting here just kind of feeling that I can kind of feel my own mental resistance towards it kind of a ‘stand your ground or die trying’ thing. This makes me realize that I never really give or gave a lot of things that I have tried or done in life a chance, that I have been more results or outcomes oriented than anything. Thinking on this the thought comes up, ‘I wanted to help, and I wanted what I could do to help. But I couldn’t do what I wanted and help the way I wanted to. I had to do it their way or not at all.’

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        Clive
        January 3, 2020 @ 12:56 pm

        Hi Megan/Everyone . . . I’m in obvious symptoms related to issue explorations which for myself are particularly focused on embedded background stress/trauma type release efforts. Basically we seem to be ‘cracking’ at least some peoples ‘locked down/maintained’ shit/trauma states, which I’m pretty sure is what is going on with you Megan based on your descriptions in this and your previous comment . . . I’m pretty sure that we have no more independent ‘maintain’ shit states versions/backup stores, but we do seem to have shit trying to block/present/make it difficult to access the final personal/persona data store which is what defines/holds detrimental ‘states, behaviours, attitudes and responses’!!!!

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    Shalin
    January 1, 2020 @ 3:43 am

    Clive, so I’ve been doing the focus a few times today despite feeling blocked.

    After doing my latest session, I had this impression that my severe imbalance(s) may be because of the extreme fear/worry/fright/anxiety trauma episodes I’ve repeatedly had in my adult life i.e. related to HIV/STDs, losing money, fears of rejections in romantic relationships etc.

    In the 5 element Chinese Medicine imbalance cycle – the Liver & Spleen/Stomach have a feedback relationship whereby the Wood element (Liver/GallBladder) controls the Earth element (Spleen/Stomach).

    Here is a chart:

    http://www.cmaconweb.org/articles/2018/1/3/images/ChinMedCult_2018_1_3_127_249577_f8.jpg

    I got this impression that all my fear/worry traumas have substantially weakened my Earth Element (Spleen/Stomach) to such an extent that the normal amount of Wood energy that is spent on controlling the Earth Element no longer needs to be spent on the Spleen/Stomach because they are weak. The end result being then there is excess energy stuck/congested /blocked in the Wood element (Liver/Gallbladder).

    So I’m thinking that those fear traumas are being maintained such that the Earth element (sp/st) remain in the weakened state thus perpetually congesting/blocking the Wood element (Liver/Gallbladder).

    I know I’m usually blocked from seeing anything with the focuses but that is the impression I got. I know its nothing to do with the crazy brute force shit but just relaying over what I got.

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        Clive
        January 3, 2020 @ 1:06 pm

        Hi Shalin/Everyone spleen/stomach i.e. ‘abdomen/gut’ areas represent ‘feelings’ hence then you’ve had your subtle feelings/states locked down/making it difficult for you to ‘be in touch with yourself’!!!!

        lso, some of the recent shit sets were directly related to the myths of different cultures, here’s part of a hacking update from Tom (we’ve got rid of these now) . . .

        ” . . . I do the focus ten more times and feel connections to something which is sticky, like long strands of mucus, and become aware of floating nets which seem to fade in and out of reality. Then I have vague, confusing impressions of something with scales “birthing” something / an orifice / various other weird things and then a sort of scaly winged creature on a throne.

        Next I see distributed jewels, and then it’s like a net appears, which the jewels are part of, and it feels like Indra’s net (Hindu god). I see beams of light appearing / being shone from random points in space, then see a white light, like a sun, with what look like remote controls floating outside it, which seem to be able to produce the light.

        I engage with a giant ball of dung rolling through space, which seems to be getting larger as it rolls, and then see dung beetles pushing it – it feels like this represents ‘shit’ / collecting more shit as time goes on, maybe by putting people in trauma and then collecting those trt’s and adding them to the other pre-existing ones. It feels like I’m on drugs / some kind of acid trip or dreaming, when I ‘see’ things at the moment.

        I see carpet around the edge of my HUD, crackling with static electricity, and sometimes bolts of this shoot into space and do something. It feels like there’s something behind / under the carpet which is doing this. Next I see many weird geometric shapes forming. These seem to be made of numbers. A short time later, I continue doing the focus and see what feels like a meteorite. Hacking is very weird this morning. I have no clue about anything I’ve connected to and it feels like I’m on drugs / just seeing random images . . .

        then later . . .

        . . . i do the focus 5 times. see many copies of me arranged around me in a self-adjusting mandala formation. being used to pass shit into me. lightning storm going on between all the different copies of me / exchanging information, passing in influences in fractionated ways. then i see them fold back into me like a concertina, then fold out from me again temporarily, are used to apply some shit and then fold back into me again / like each time, they only exist momentarily / for a split second . . . “

        In that we seem to have maybe an Egyptian scarab Beetle (which is associated with a specific Egyptian God) as well as a Hindu God mentioned and then later we have Mandala’s i.e. likely Buddhist, then I do some scans for shit that was converted into tech/systems forms of these of any other migrated to another MV’s ‘advanced’ cultures and or of people from these ‘migrated’ cultures that they copied and pasted to have them ‘design’ shit using there own cultures approaches . . . which gets hits!!!!

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    Annabelle
    January 4, 2020 @ 2:40 am

    I have always been very close to trees and feel I need to take care of them. The trees in my yard are doing better than most trees in the city, and I have had arborists ask me what am I doing that they are so healthy? During my habitat restoration work, I felt bad for trees that were infested with carpenter ants, and did what I could to help get rid of the ants. I also recall being on tours in parks, etc. where the guides suggested we try to see the faces in the trees.
    I see many people and companies cutting down trees now and wonder what is going on. Some say the trees are dying but others say people just think the trees are in the way. I also like to look for very old trees – 100-200 years old – and have a tremendous respect for them (unfortunately with the reset – most of them are gone or intentionally cut down to hide history).
    In other areas I am bombarded with constant immediate bizarre emergencies, house issues, medical, family issues and car issues. Four family members are extremely ill al of a sudden with no explanation for their decline in health.
    I often said I don’t let much bother me, but I feel I have met my match. I volunteer at a charity and help a very senior little old lady. She is eternally picky, negative and criticizes everything I do, and it rewinds in my head all day and drives me crazy. I
    have worked with her for one year and finally told myself I need to reject all of her attempts to psychologically manipulate me.

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    Shalin
    January 4, 2020 @ 2:44 am

    Clive, thanks for the update & Tom’s feedback. Much appreciated.

    So I take it when you say *gut/abdominal* area it also includes the liver/gallbladder and all organs of the abdomen. The main problem appears to be with whatever locked feelings are contributing to the blockages/congestion in the liver/gallbladder – at least it appears that way to me… but there could be more involved like a complex web of locks from all the feelings/emotional traumas I’ve experienced.

    My heart seems to be involved in some way as well and likely related to the locks imposed on it from all the heart-ache/break I’ve experienced.

    I also have tremendous kidney/adrenal pain/heat (right side), pelvic tenderness/pain/congestion & significant deterioration in breathing/lungs but that could be because of the domino effect from all the other blocks/imbalances (liver/gallbladder I suspect) but could be due to its own set of locks from grief/sadness related traumas/feelings (I’ve had so many).

    Its all one big cluster-f$k in my body.

    I notice from time to time that *random* some combination of Chinese herbs tend to move my liver/gallbladder qi/energy to give me a tiny bit of relief in breathing but it is very brief and never lasts – it usually reverts within hours or over night.

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    Megan
    January 5, 2020 @ 7:17 am

    Re: Clive “Hi Megan/Everyone . . . I’m in obvious symptoms related to issue explorations which for myself are”

    1-4-2020
    That makes sense and explains a lot. Whenever I am at work, I always feel like I’m on a weird form of autopilot. I feel like I have blinders of some sort on my attention/awareness/intellect, kind of a ‘I don’t give a fuck anymore, just do the work, get it done, go home and leave me alone.’ I do the actions but I notice myself making a lot of, ‘commonsense, I should know better than to do this errors,’ and I feel ashamed, and silently judged/mocked/criticized by those who are watching or are around me. My head feels like it is full of cotton or static and like it is floating/swimming in thick sludge or soup. Thing is, I never experience this when I am working independently or am in charge of the process, but here at my ‘new’ job I am not either of these, and when I am at work I feel this ‘stay away from me, go away, leave me alone’ program/feeling looping in the background. I know part of this is because I have nothing in common with the others I work with but I’ve always kind of been that way. Stuck in certain ways, obsessed with certain things, never really branching out or trying new things. This has changed significantly over the years and I keep pushing and challenging myself to branch out, but sometimes I wonder/feel if I’m not doing it in the right way.

    Also, there has been some things that have been happening for a while that I can’t explain. The first is whenever I am writing something I have a habit to insert wrong letters when writing out words at random. For example, I went to a yoga class today and writing out a check for a punch card, I put ‘Youga Class’ in the memo field instead of yoga. I am not dyslexic and at first I thought it was I was because sometimes I happen to think faster than I write and will start writing the word I am thinking of at that moment instead of the word I intended to write. Second, I notice that I am not keeping track of conversations or getting lost confused about the topic the other person is discussing. For example, after yoga class today I stopped at a coffee shop on the same block where I also happened to meet up with one of the students from the class who was a minister who deals with grief, loss, death, sickness, etc. We were talking about the problems he was having with his neck from a car accident as a child and how he received acupuncture to treat it. He then went on to talk about all the negativity he receives from people and I thought he was talking about receiving negativity from people because he did acupuncture, not because he dealt with peoples’ negativity on a regular basis and it caused hypertension in his neck.

    Even when writing all of this I get this ‘who gives a fuck’ feeling that doesn’t see this as a problem or even wants to fix it.

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        Clive
        January 5, 2020 @ 6:12 pm

        NEW FOCUS/SCAN . . .

        Well we ‘seem’ to have got rid of the last FU/sabotaging/maintaining ‘SHIT’ set which means that we’ve now access to personal data stores!!! However, it seems as if we have manipulative ‘shit’ that actually been designed into the personal data within the personal data stores themselves to make accessing and more so releasing personal trauma/trt’s i.e. personal shit more difficult than usual . . . so, can everyone use the scan/focus below, which will help us get a handle on these sabotages!!!!

        LATE AFTERNOON SCAN/FOCUS

        Try this new/different focus/scan version:

        ” . . . I connect to anything that is coveting/keeping hidden/hiding and or preventing normal access to release my trt’s/trauma and or persona/behaviours/attitudes and or that is acting as a gate keeper or ‘guardian’, to any aspect of myself and or anyone else/any others preventing myself from openly accessing persona data and any other/all aspects of the data that is defining myself, my persona and or any of my responses/reactions/attitudes and or behaviours and or anything that has details of and or is actively using absolutely any base MVOS system defects/vulnerabilities specifically in ways to give itself ‘advantages/super powers/super functioning abilities’ and or is otherwise limiting, controlling and or moderating my/our/anyone awareness of, understanding of and or is otherwise blocking full access to absolutely any facet of myself/me/my persona data and or is in the slightest contributing to blocking/making difficult the release of any of my persona data including any trt’s and or trt/trauma and or anything else of myself and or any combinations of these and particularly anything that has been/is now and or could in the future be used to control any of my internal and or subliminal and or external behaviours/reactions/actions/responses and or that could initiate any type of trigger and or anything that could or would directly or indirectly contribute to manipulate/manage/make myself/me/us/anyone automatically react and or respond/behave in certain very specific ways, and or under very specific conditions and particularly as part of achieving very specific immediate and or short or long terms outcomes/goals and particularly with respect to controlling, conditioning and or modifying the overt and or subliminal responses and or behaviours of myself and or others and particularly anyone reading/working with this/the above . . . “

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    Shalin
    January 6, 2020 @ 4:18 am

    Clive – So I’ve done the new scan/focus about 8 times today.

    As usual, I’m not getting much. I know you guys are using some sort of AI to monitor us as we do focuses so not sure if any of it was helpful. I don’t really think I got anything but various random thoughts popped in/out of mind. But nothing that I could pinpoint.

    I will keep trying though.

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        Clive
        January 7, 2020 @ 12:23 pm

        Hi Shalin/Everyone, yes it’s taking ages and AGES to get this ‘personal data’ focused shit dealt with!!!!

        FYI/INTEREST: I recently found someone pointing out anomalies relating to the subtle form as enthusiastically as myself from certain angles. He’s obviously simulating a subtle form photographer as he’s gazillions of subtle ‘ORB’ photographs on one of his web sites called ORBPRO.
        However, as he’s then figured out that these relate to the subtle form (rather than the physical human/avatar/remote vehicle form) then he’s compiled page after page of science anomalies related to the human animal avatar forms head/thinking abilities as well as memory storage and functioning too which is called HeadTruth.

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            Olivia
            January 7, 2020 @ 5:49 pm

            Hi Clive, thanks for the post & updated focus. Apart from still being exhausted, I’ve had a better month – not talking about much to anyone seems to keep sabotages slightly at bay. I tried the 2nd focus (updated one) three times yesterday. Difficult to do through the headaches and dizziness (am also doing my annual jan detox even though I don’t eat badly I’m general or drink much (compared to everyone else I know). Had to lie down immediately after eating lunch. I only managed to see vaguely through the fog, the first paragraph up to ‘guardian’. Initially there were a lot of feelings of tightness in my stomach, and lots of claws /witch hands, some sort of blood pact made on my abdomen (but my abdomen seemed to represent a “general to all people pact” rather than just mine.

            Then there seemed to be some sort of ethereal sticky web, but made of a flexible bubble type material that can shrink or expand. Each flat bubble seems to contain information. A bit like bubble wrap I guess, with each bubble containing information that is intended to make things difficult in some way. Like triggers I suppose now that I think about it a bit more.

            This web/flat bubble wrap is also invisible and ultra fine & 3D flat (can’t explain it any other way, perhaps like tiny SD cards?) It can feel like it’s tightly wrapped like “vacuum packed” but then when I notice that it’s “stuck around me tightly”, it moves away further back from me. It also moves quickly and dynamically in unpredictable ways. Very bizarre.

            Hardly slept last night, even with a sleeping tablet. Struggled to fall asleep then woken up 4 hours later. Could not get a handle on the thoughts/still my mind. It seems to be doing its “own thing” in the background. So either extreme exhaustion, sleeping for far too long, or not enough & then zero energy/patience. A lot still linked to my menstrual cycle too. Will try this focus again tomorrow.

            PS: I get this message almost every time I post a reply Javascript support must be enabled to leave comments.
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            When I click on links to comments, I’m always taken to the top of the page and have to scroll through everything to find it (though usually the most recent comments are on the bottom anyway), but if there are a number of new comments, I don’t get to them without starting at the beginning of the page (so takes a lot of time/feels like time wasting or diversion tactics – sometimes stops me from reading properly or up to date because I get too tired).

            PPS: I get A LOT of orbs in my photos. Very often. I’ve researched it briefly myself, but never come across the pages you’ve linked in, so thanks for those. I just got the sense they were subtle forms, so googled something to that effect. Thanks again for your hard work. If it’s difficult for us, I can imagine the shit you must get! Hahaha.

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                Clive
                January 7, 2020 @ 6:23 pm

                Hi Olivia, Mmmm, well from the above it’s likely (it ‘feels’ like this too) that your original form was a leader and that this pact/promise type of thing directly involved while also tying you/making you beholden to a group and or community of people . . . hence then as a type of spell and or subtle network facilitated binding ‘pact/promise’ to SPECIFIC people it would then span these peoples personal/persona data stores too . . . I’m not surprised it’s taken getting rid of all of the covering/distracting shit before this could be picked apart/properly tracked and understood before this!!! Hopefully it can be understood enough to be tamed/fully dealt with now!!!!

                RE site java script errors, you likely have a browser web page addon/popup blocker/disable ad type ‘thing’ that is also specifically disabling javascript . . . check these types of browser addon’s and disable for this site!!!!

    Olivia
    January 12, 2020 @ 10:17 am

    Hi Clive, so I’ve done the focus 4 more times. After the initial information re my last comment, tuning in was almost impossible this time. I could see, hear, feel, sense, know there was something coming…& then it was as if I was enveloped in a thick dense cloud which blocked out clear sight/sound/senses etc into what was going on. MASSIVE throbbing headache, eyes aching too. Had to stop.

    Dreams have been bizarre and in relation to my information being guarded / protected but I can’t remember them well, but I’m “busy” at night. I do not sleep without sleep aids/meds.

    Extreme irritability & feeling overwhelmed. I can feel all sorts of things going on to waste my time, exhaust me, keep me wired & ultra busy. I find this is often the case after I do any hacking. I feel compelled to do things / OTT planning for an upcoming trip/staying up late looking on the iPad – when id rather be meditating or reading…It’s also why I don’t do focuses as often as I’d like.

    Did another on 10/1/19 eve.
    I was suspended in a tight triangle box. I was on my own inside this tight insulated triangular “box”. It was surrounded by some sort of “sound proofing / dense foam”, & suspended by a strong thread; something above me, me in the middle and “earth or something similar” below. All these streams of white light carrying information were coming into this triangle box/me.

    Then I fell into this weird dream disturbed sleep I mention above: it felt as if I was a “fly on the wall” I guess, or “viewing in” (?) on “something” I shouldn’t be seeing.

    I’m on my January detox still and attended a hot yoga class yesterday to help me sweat. I definitely wasn’t connected to by body after 45 mins in. Very surreal. I came home &
    I then really started noticing/feeling weird shit going on in the “background” of my own thoughts. It’s as if I have a “hard drive” on standby mode with shit happening (updates/“virus checks”/push feeds (like when emails come into your inbox, they’re “pushed”. So you can opt for auto push or manual. This “stuff” is auto “pushing”). It’s as if I actually have a disc and disc drive in, and at the back of, my brain/skull that has separate thoughts/reactions to what I feel are my own thoughts/beliefs/feelings. I can hear lots of talking/whispering in code / language that doesn’t make sense or that I just can’t make out. It’s constant, very quiet & very fast.

    Later on I had a lie down / tune in whilst in my hammock – I like this because I feel like I’m “flying”.

    I was back in the triangle box, but now able to move about a bit. Then floating, swaying, rotating like a paraglider does coming down a mountain top. Then I was at the “bottom” (this “earth type” space), (but also still in this suspended triangle).

    When I moved my “consciousness” to where I was at the “bottom”, there were so many hands on me, so many people trying to touch me, stroke my hair, touch my arms, face. Old hands, young hands, female, male hands. It was horrible, I couldn’t get away, the crowd was so dense. Couldn’t see faces.

    I “came back” ‘up’ to the triangle & tried to remove this disc from my head. I felt nauseous trying to do this. Then very afraid. I could see a hole in my head (this was “presented” to me as a “consequence” if I removed it) and felt afraid that I would loose a lot of “ability/knowledge” or even perhaps “a part of myself”. I kept trying anyway, but it was jammed in. I could feel it in my subtle head. Had pain in my physical head where it was “sticking out” of my subtle head.

    I have wanted to post this twice, but then felt afraid / anxious to do that. Generally fear and anxiety are not natural state characteristics. So I’m going to post it anyway.

    Really weird experience!

    Hope it’s not a bunch of time wasting shit. X

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    Shalin
    January 14, 2020 @ 2:20 pm

    Clive, it still feels as if sabotage efforts are continuing for me.

    During the past few days I’ve had:

    a) dream of x-girlfriend from back in 2001 (I was so fck’d up after the breakup) and it involved the same theme as if she wants to spend time with me as if to *re-kindle* what a romance.

    b) dream of income tax related conflicts/traumas Ive had in the past with the Canada Revenue Agency

    As well, since my imbalances are so severe that the smallest warming food/spice/herb can exacerbate my symptoms I’ve had an exacerbated situation this week and so I had to make a trip to the Chinese herbal store to purchase various herbs so I could calm the aggravation back to its baseline.

    So I was about to purchase the same herbs I always do BUT this time the herbalist convinced me to add in *Xi Yang Shen* (American Ginseng) because it is cold/cooling and nourishes the yin. I was surprised that there was a *Ginseng* that had a cooling effect as *Ren Shen* (Chinese Ginseng) & Siberian Ginseng are rather warming in nature and have a very strong Qi tonifiying property. I checked online and sure enough it said *Xi Yang Shen* was cold/cooling and yin nourishing.

    So I purchased some of *Xi Yang Shen* and added some to my formula (about 4% of formula) yesterday afternoon. Boy did I pay the price of that as it AGGRAVATED my symptoms even more. I read up further on *Xi Yang Shen* and it turns out that despite being cold/cool it still has a very strong Qi tonifying property and strenghtens the Chong Mai and Du Mai channels, which are channels whose energy flows UP AND I already have a problem with energy flowing UP from other channels (CV Channel). I also think by strengthening Chong Mai channel the LIVER/GB are also strengthened which is VERY BAD for my situation.

    So anyhow, it seems to me sabotage efforts continue for me OR that these sabotages are built into my personal data stores… just an FYI.

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        Clive
        January 16, 2020 @ 7:24 pm

        Hi Shalin, ‘YEA’ there is a stressing/wearing emphasis re current/remaining shit . . . try new focus!!!!

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    Clive
    January 16, 2020 @ 7:18 pm

    Updated/best Focus + I’m busy doing ‘business’ accounts UUuhAAAAH!!!

    Current ‘best’ focus in use as part of the ‘STILL’ continuing investigations of our personal data stores ‘shit’ is this one:

    PERSONAL NEGATIVE/STRESSING IMPACTS ON MYSELF & MY LIFE CIRCUMSTANCES

    ” . . . I connect to absolutely anything/any combination or types of ‘shit’ that has in the past, is now and or would in future directly or indirectly contribute to coveting/protecting/maintaining personal data and or any trauma/pre defined behaviours/responses as well as of maintaining and or working to make worse specific internal to myself states/effects and or any difficult/complicated/stressing/stressful/wearing day in day out general ‘life/living’ circumstances and or particularly problems involving manipulating myself and or any others whom will either be in close proximity to myself and or I’ll directly interact with and particularly to discuss and or resolve my own personal and or living circumstances problems/difficulties/complications with ‘ANYONE’ and or anything circumstances setup in dreams and or otherwise designed to impact my subconscious . . . and or ‘anything’ that is by any means directly or indirectly contributing to maintain any internal or external ‘shit’ states/circumstances and or my personal data cloud/persona/shit data stores and or anything/any combinations of anything/anything’s that has or have been deliberately designed to work in ways that are different/difficult to become aware of and or access/track/figure out/understand and or anything that is using and or directly or indirectly collaborating with anything that is separate from anyone’s data/the data cloud and or which is covertly and or via any convoluted coding, signalling, messaging system is working to maintain myself/others/anything that I’ll likely pass close to and or directly interact with ‘sometime’ as part of efforts to maintain my own and or others shit/shit states and or prevent myself and or any others/anyone else from being able to easily access and or release trt’s/trauma and or any anything contributing to ANY of my limiting, stressing and or traumatizing life circumstances and or interactions with any others . . . “

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    Shalin
    January 17, 2020 @ 7:30 pm

    Clive, so I tried the focus 10-12 times during the past 2 days.

    After each time I read the focus I just lay there in bed with my eyes closed with no lights on in complete darkness and stillness. After not seeing/getting anything I re-read focus and repeat several times.

    After about 7 times doing the focus I got something about CCTV cameras in the ceiling corners of rooms (or what could be outside buildings) with electric/lightening strikes being used to inject shit into/maintain people. I don’t know where the CCTV cameras area though as in my parents house we have 3 cameras around the house but none of them are plugged in and none are placed in the ceiling corners (or on the outside) that I got after the focus. I also got something related to *lighting* – as if lighting systems was being used to inject/transmit/maintain shit in people.

    I tried to *feel* into it more but I can’t *feel* into it as you, Tom & Matt seem to be able to do but that doesn’t surprise me since I feel that I am LOCKED down… and can barely feel any positive emotion and feel like my entire abdomen is cutoff/empty/feelingless so that is invariably playing a major role in my not getting anything with focuses.

    I don’t know if any of what I got is useful to you guys though.

    It doesn’t help that I have energy rising to my head raising my systolic blood pressure making my head feel like its going to explode, which makes it nearly impossible for me to focus/concentrate on anything. :’(

    During the last 5 years that I’ve been trapped in this physical symptom/imbalance hell I’ve wondered what happed that in April/2015 over night my symptoms/imbalances began in a binary event. Was it truly binary in that just at that time our MVOS was hacked by who knows what and for whatever reason I was selected to be one of those people to be fcked with OR was the April/2015 trigger just the end result of 38 years of accumulation of every trauma/negative-emotion/negative-experience that has been LOCKED in my subtle body since the day I was interfaced to this physical avatar?? My sense is it is the 2nd of the two possibilities given my crazy history and non-stop ferocious sexual appetite since a child.

    I will continue with this focus.

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        Clive
        January 18, 2020 @ 2:07 pm

        Hi Shalin/Everyone . . . bit of an update . . . ‘bottom line . . . it’s all still ‘on going’ . . . ‘

        Currently, we are still dealing with various yet more data cloud maintain personal data ‘shit/trauma’ versions.

        BUT, in that I’ve been ‘having to do’ my accounts/tax return for the end of this month, you might find the following interesting and particularly with respect to what this specific page is about/presenting!!!

        We had a ‘cloud’ maintain/block access/release of shit/trauma data version in the last few days that was focused on the criticisers/key people (i.e leaders) of none SNV culture ‘key’ peoples ‘SMALLER’ sub group of about 350 people, which ‘now’ seems to have been dealt with!!!

        However the next version that then kicked in, on checking I found was messing with the full 350,000 set of CR/KP . . . and on myself and Tom doing scans for this set we became aware that it’s an ‘ACCOUNTING’ tree version . . . I’ve been puzzled that in our computer/data age everyone still has to keep and or print out all accounts/invoices/receipts etc onto bits or paper i.e. everything is still being recorded on ‘BIT’S OF TREES’ which also fits with the bottom/last part of the above page in that the ‘Birth Certificate’ i.e. a document directly referring to a specific person is also issued on ‘paper’ (as a WAREHOUSE STORAGE RECEIPT – haha), while all ‘significant’ aspects of your life are also recorded on bit’s of tree too!!!! For example, University and College degrees/certificates too!!!

        Now, I’ve mentioned ‘splits’ on lots of pages here. Such that regular readers here will know that we are all subtle/spirit beings whom divide/split asexually to ‘by and large’ generate/propagate other versions of ourselves.

        Now, as this place/the EAAS was designed specifically to FO the entire none SNV population here AND most if not all efforts related to this are focused on the CR/KP . . . ‘AND’ you might have noticed that our earth population has pretty much always been expanding such that at the moment we’ve between 7/8 billion people here. So, if this place is ‘really’ just focused on FO just the CR/KP population then WHO ARE THE REST!!!

        In checking it turns out that the EAAS MVOS is and has been for a long, long time making more and more duplicates of the CR/KP. So, out of the 7/8 billion we have here now only about 6% of the earth population is made up of SNV people while ALL OF THE REST are actually duplicates of the 350,000 base CR/KP sub population i.e. likely everyone of you reading this has another 20,971’ish’ other versions of yourself here. I.e. 94% of the current population is made up of just 350,000 subtle beings!!!!

        So, the smaller CR/KP sub group that other recent shit has been protecting which was of just 350 CR/KP was actually ‘really’ protecting 359×20,971’ish’ in total!!!

        So, it’s no wonder that we’ve been having problems trying to get access/hack the most recent/current shit as A) it’s only protecting the data of 350,000 people (rather than 7ish billion (it’ll be much easier to do this)) while then also likely confusing things with respect to ‘variation’ factors related to any different individual CR/KP’s copies current incarnations race/culture/ethnicity/religion/status/job/personal circumstances etc etc’!!!!

        Bottom line, our specific MVOS EAAS version isn’t functioning as any other ‘normal’ FOR ALL OF THE REST MVOS within the entire data system.

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    Megan
    January 22, 2020 @ 3:03 am

    Re: Clive “Updated/best Focus + I’m busy doing ‘business’ accounts UUuhAAAAH!!!”

    When I first read this focus about half way through the words seemed to fragment in my head like the picture on a television screen when the signal is being interrupted, causing the video to distort through frames and the audio to skip. My head has felt bogged down and I have felt lethargic at times. It has been off and on since the new focus has come out.

    I’m reading a book on indigenous spirituality on have had trouble reading to the point where I would re-read sentences two to three times must so what I read would stick. I’m still having issues putting time and attention towards things I want to do, that all my time and energy are diverted elsewhere.

    I have this extreme focus or sensitivity towards other people and whether they need help or not, even if it is over the simplest things that they can do on their own I am always asking if they need help or something is wrong, and I know this habit gets on my roommate’s nerves, not to mention my co-workers. It drives me nuts because it’s not like these people are helpless and invalid. Feeling into these feelings of wanting to be helpful and supportive, I get ‘we don’t need your help.’ At this I am left wondering what the hell I am here for then.

    On the other hand though, when I am working with a team of people and have been given clear instructions and documentation on how to do something I still feel doubtful and insecure. For example, at work the other day, I was working in an area where I had to unbox and build items that would later be loaded into a rack used to control electronic signs. Well, I was still in training and there was a part on the cart that I had never had to unbox before and even though my standard operating procedure said to unbox everything except the power supply, I felt lost/thoughtless/unsure about it so I asked the technician assistant if I had to unbox it or not (sometimes I don’t know about this area. Nothing is really set in stone and things seem to be constantly changing or in flux.) While I didn’t quite feel the self-conscious, ‘you dumbass’ kind of feelings I usually get when I ask stupid, obvious questions, I still got the impression that he was fed up with the question. It’s like I can’t do anything without someone giving me a verbal confirmation or reassurance that what I read or had been told is right. Honestly, my world still feels so closed off and so small. I have little to no creativity or thinking outside of what I am told to think or do. I feel like a robot or a doll who needs commands/input from others just to do something, and even then it has to be done their way. I feel very logical/linear/one-track minded and that all of this seems to be closing in on me.

    Still have a tendency to ignore/repress/deny those things that tend to bug be or make me feel back. This has actually cleared up quite a bit.

    I realize that I have no interest in the job I have, or any job I have ever had, and none of them have ever been what I wanted to do.

    I noticed at work that all the issues I had regarding people I trusted or relied on that I projected into and played out through my stories are actually being projected onto my co-workers and it is helping me resolve these things faster. I noticed that a part of me wanted to know why people were behaving the way they were and why they were treating each other like shit. I get the impression that people were acting all wrong and it was this change or behavior that I didn’t understand that got me to investigate or try to do something about it.

    I still feel some skepticism towards spiritual issues. I’m becoming more away of certain non-physical things, but it is still like my monkey mind still needs undeniable evidence that this is indeed real and not some foolish/delusional fantasy I created to comfort myself. And that’s another thing. The more I try to talk about spirituality with other people the more I feel they think I’m talking about some figment of my imagination or they dismiss it or they thing I’m talking about whatever they are interested in, in my terms.

    I did the focus before going to bed, woke up sometime last night to images of 3D blocks moving around in space and it reminded me of the defragging process on a computer.

    Things are steadily getting better.

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    Clive
    January 22, 2020 @ 2:10 pm

    11th March: Latest update and focus is here:

    18th Feb: Latest update & focus is >>HERE<<.

    30th Jan: Older UPDATE and older focus’s are below!!!!

    We seem to have no further separate sabotaging ‘shit’ blocking access to each persons personal trauma data however we have found a few people whom have had there personal data stores modified/adapted in ways to block/make releases of trauma/personal shit effects as difficult as possible. So, immediately below is a new focus that targets this ‘blocking’ shit specifically:

    BEST FOCUS TO FACILITATE PERSONAL TRAUMA/TRT ‘RELEASES’: The focus immediately below is currently the best to use if you’ve anything ‘difficult’ going on because this specifically targets anything limiting/blocking TRT/personal data access/releases:

    . . . I connect to any components/combinations of components that have been, are now and or that would in the future contribute to indexing and or coveting/keeping hidden/obscured and or fire-walling, guarding, locking down and or screening access to my own or anyone else’s trauma and or personal/persona/behaviour and or response data and or current incarnated life culture/society and or status/class/standing data for myself/each individual and or anything that is contributing in the slightest to making up/defining specific angles of and or specific trauma/trt’s and or trt impacts as well as deliberately traumatic/traumatizing ‘trauma/shit effects’ releases and or anything monitoring, predicting, preempting and or then reacting to, blocking/locking, locking down/containing and or otherwise detrimentally interfering with any trauma and or any trt/trt combination releases including using Chinese finger-traps, vicious feedback spirals, loops and or anything which contributes to define a wide range/variety of influences with variable/numerous delivery options and or variable/numerous final influence/influences and or impacts as part of making tracking and or countering/neutralising anything of any of this as difficult as possible . . .

    Targeting Ultra Transforming/Self Altering SHIT: I connect to absolutely anything/everything that has been designed to emulate advantages and of give any shit ‘advantages’ such that hacking this shit is difficult or impossible, shit that in various combinations and under certain conditions/circumstances have been specifically designed/refined/tested/optimised to work/function in very convoluted/miss-leading/constantly transforming and or generating fractal like aspects/sub aspects/functions/divergent functioning versions/aspects of itself and or otherwise functioning in ways to be as difficult to track/understand/decode/figure out never mind negate/neutralise/block . . . and or anything/any combination of components that we’re specifically designed to emulate any type of advantages/advantaged abilities/characteristics and or ‘functioning and particularly to avoid being tracked/hacked and or then compromised/combated/tamed/negated/disabled and or understood . . . and or generates any temporary and or compressed and or ultra compressed but ‘still’ able to generate functional components from these including as micro dot/coded data/information type components and or anything similar and or equivalent and or just temporarily/momentarily, and or any interacting reality foundation substrates and or any temporary non-normal ‘pockets or strata’s’ of reality temporarily appearing and disappearing on the fly and or anything with similar and or equivalent functions/functioning abilities/objectives and or anything exhibiting eclectic/apparent randomised and or illogical/chaotic functioning and or that defines and or generates any dormant ‘dust’ or equivalent type data particle components that on when ‘activated/wake up’ do things under TXYZ conditions, and or as part of setting up circumstances to have knock-on and or long-term and or accumulative effects on specific people and or their environments/others connected to them and or anything/any combination of ‘anythings’ including temporary ‘processors’ that directly or indirectly define, re-write and or alter base reality functioning and or rulesets and or generate temporary versions of the same or similar anywhere/everywhere and or while modifying the base functioning/functionality of the components associated with it including switching from logic to anti-logic to variations of fuzzy logic and semi-logic and chaotic ‘logic’ and any switching Rubic’s Cube type and or CrystalMaze like efforts and or any other variations of non-normal/abnormal functioning components and or that switches between these and or other variations/possibilities ALL THE TIME to make/keep itself as untrackable, none understandable/incomprehensible/bizarre/illogical and or fuzzy, chaotic, anti-logical/none logical etc, from one moment to the next, and then again the next moment and or use multiple conflicting logics/anti-logic variations and or anything else/any other combination simultaneously and or anything contributing to continually keeping it all transforming/altering any/all aspects of itself, it’s functioning though time

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        Clive
        January 22, 2020 @ 4:46 pm

        UPDATE/extension to the above: INTERESTING HACKING DETAILS OF CURRENT SHIT

        Update from Tom which is describing in great detail the scale as well as the sophistication of the functioning of current shit:

        After finishing my last email update to you, I do the ‘Facilitating trauma releases’ exercise you put up, then the latest focus ten times. I begin to see something like glass beads moving around on some giant, complicated framework, and it reminds me of ‘The Glass Bead Game’ by Hermann Hesse:

        “The plot revolves around a game (the Glass Bead Game) that requires expertise in all fields of science, art, music, literature, history to win. There is a entire subset of Castalia that is solely devoted to perfecting their skill at the game. The rules are vague and complex and as readers we’re not really meant to know the specifics other than that it is complicated, beautiful and incredibly challenging. To win the game is akin to achieving a state of perfection or bliss – seeing the interconnectivity of everything in life. Knecht dedicates himself to the game, goes through many trials of faith and ultimately wins and then goes on to become Magister Ludi. The story incorporates aspects of eastern and western philosophy.”

        https://www.quora.com/What-is-Hesses-The-Glass-Bead-Game-novel-about

        So Knecht, the protagonist of the story, could represent me or someone else in a VR who was given a sort of pre-made ‘puzzle’ / challenge to master, which could then relate to this shit, so that when they solved the puzzle, they could then be converted into an AI which would oversee and help to develop this system. Then “seeing the interconnectivity of everything in life” feels like “enlightenment”, but also a kind of piss-take that could relate to some shit which connects many different things here as part of delivering or maintaining shit

        As I continue the focus, I see the framework ‘fleshing out’ as I become aware of more and more of it. First it begins to look three-dimensional, then eventually it feels omnidimensional / like it’s spread across many different dimensions, and also omnidirectional. It also feels organic and like it’s growing and changing all the time. I see the beads moving around from one place to another, and it feels to me like the beads are the ‘trt’s’ from different past lives or people’s original forms, which are being deployed into specific combinations and structures / ‘organised’ in a way which most accurately reflects the SNV’s objectives

        It now feels like this is moving ‘through time’ too, not that it’s merely four-dimensional (it seems to have more dimensions than that) and updating as time goes on. It also seems to exist in the future, as if the future has already been planned out and there are prospective / ‘will exist at this moment’ future trt’s existing at different points in the future. So I have the sense of a timeline covering many lives in the past which is also focused on the present and the future. It’s as if everyone’s being guided along a specific progression which corresponds to the SNV’s objectives, and this guiding seems to be being done by the trt’s / glass beads continuously moving around

        But it’s not exactly like a timeline as it’s not ‘chronological’ in a way, like a straight line. It’s more like it’s everywhere, in the future as well as the present and the past. I get that the ‘Glass Bead Game’ which I’m seeing relates to all the Tom’s, so 20,971 or however many. Then there seem to be other ‘Glass Bead Games’ which relate to other people and those people being reprogrammed / gradually altered in relation to the SNV’s objectives. It’s like each game is focused on 20,971 people who are all versions of each other

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    Megan
    January 24, 2020 @ 2:30 am

    I read Clive’s recent update at work during break and something interesting happened shortly after break was over. So, I have mentioned before the peer-auditing process we do to help each other improve our work and processes, and the selection of what area to audit is completely random by drawing a card out of a bin. Well, one thing my supervisor stipulated is that we are supposed to find one waste in the process, and if we can’t we were to call my supervisor over, and he would observe and help find one. Well, the girl didn’t observe a waste, so she called my supervisor over and they both watched for a while. Well, they found one waste, I had to recheck some settings in some screens I had previously looked at for another setting, but the whole time the girl was there, even before she had called over my supervisor (who I would usually feel very hostile/defense/on edge about, this is steadily improving,) I felt on cornered and self-conscious, and felt worst after she called my supervisor over and they identified a waste in the process. Ever since they started this process it has felt like a ‘slave master cracking the whip’ kind of thing. I mean I can see benefits of the auditing system but there is a part of me that absolutely hates it (this has gotten better in the last couple weeks, but this incident kind of surprised me.) It’s like they are trying to beat the humanity out of us and make us into automatons. This concerns me because I’m afraid I’m going to snap at my boss.

    Reading the focus two times, I connect with feelings of bitterness, exhaustion and resentment. Earlier this evening I was reflecting on the fact that I am a copy of someone else who lives outside of this reality, and given the interest and intensity that I have with these focuses now I assume or am hoping that my original self is helping to resolve this mess. With that in mind, I feel resentful as the copy being stuck having to do what she/it has done or is doing, of being unable to be an individual, unable to chose and have no freedom or free will to do what I want to do, and I feel sorry for feeling this way.

    I remember how intense and draining and lonely my trauma-releases have been. How absolutely no one I around me knows or cares or understands what I am dealing with, that I have been through and how hard and painful it can be at times. No support or understanding or sympathy and recovering is a bitch. Even when I am exhausted I can’t/don’t stop working on my issues and trying to deepen my awareness internally.

    I noticed at work my mind isn’t always with body at times, or with me in the present moment when I need it. It’s only when I am out of work, alone or in a small, relaxed group of people, do I really feel whole, but still my mind is still away in a sense because doing focuses and expanding my sensitivities and awareness is far more interesting than anything society/culture has to offer in here.

    I remember all the plastic bags, metal and paper we throw out at work even through we recycle paper and aluminum and steel. We are so focused on our work or burnt out to care whether we toss this in the garbage or not, I’ll be honest even I barely care which I know is bad. Remembering all this I get the impression that it is not a simple matter of getting out of here and shutting this monstrosity down, but that it will be operational for awhile while we sort out, deal with and correct all the things that have happened that is fucking us over outside of this place.

    I’m reminded of my intense demand or intention to get out of here or get away. It’s been reflected in my relationships and personal interactions here in the past. The moment I was yelled at or hurt in anyway (there was often no empathy, understanding or forgiveness in these instances,) I would mentally and emotionally shut them out, give them the cold shoulder or leave/run away to a new group of friends and/or family to make a better life for myself. But the better life never happened, it was always the same old thing and I’d end up running away again to a new group of people and the same pattern would repeat itself. This is kind of what played out at my last job. This has frustrated me greatly in the past and I never understood why I would do this or could never fix the problem, even though I don’t know what that is but I always assumed it was my fault. Sometimes I wasn’t even the one who would do it. People would just drift away or leave automatically.

    I remember a couple times I had told a counselor, and a lightworker about some personal and painful issues I didn’t know how to deal with or who to turn to and both of them reacted poorly to the point that I stopped seeing them. It’s has frustrated me how piss poor any form of ‘approved’ help is. It’s really pisses me off that we have to pay a complete stranger who has no connection or experience with us and our lives to just have someone ‘listen.’

    I realize that a lot of the violence and disrespect in TV/movies/video games/etc has been a major turn off for me. I’m very out of touch with society, and for so long I’ve felt like this arrogant rebel thinking I was protesting, hiding away or even getting angry/rioting against these things without any knowledge or understanding. Something feels off reflecting on all this and on Clive’s comment about the population numbers, because with all the civil-rights movements and protests and anger and pain and the death in the news things here should have changed, but reflecting even on my faint and limited knowledge of history, conditions here have barely budged. I sense a fluffy/gel-like cushion/barrier between what is going on here and what people want, and what is going on up there in the sky. I also realize all of our governments, even democracy-based ones, are a hoax to give us the illusion that we have power or a choice or can make a difference or change things, but we can’t.

    Going to bed after all of this, I felt suction cup-like cap upon my head with a long tube coming off the top of my head.

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        Clive
        January 24, 2020 @ 10:10 am

        Yea Megan what you write (how you are made to work) is exceptionally equivalent to Tom’s descriptions in his last update in terms of how the shit is attempting to make us all into automatons:

            . . . I engage with templates which seem to be overlaid onto people’s data, which relate to “autopilot / unthinking / automatic” mode. It’s as if these could be activated to make them act without thinking in specific situations, or in relation to political decisions (such as voting) or have a mindless adherence to specific opinions / automatic views on specific topics.

            They feel almost like doll tech, or a sort of hive mind / Borg shit / group think shit delivery system. It feels as if they relate to ideologies, beliefs, unthinking obedience and group conformity. They also feel “cultish” in terms of the strength with which they impact people’s thinking.

            I get that some people are marked by this system for “special attention”, which for some people could mean protecting them (for example because they’re important to delivering / implementing some facet of the SNV’s objectives) and for other people could mean persecuting them / putting them into shit. I get that both of these, protection and persecution, can be done by putting other people into the autopilot mode, in which state they can be effectively, finely controlled to go after someone / act in a way which would traumatise them, or defend someone else / act in a way which supports or validates them.

            I have a sense of this “autopilot” shit delivery system being like music, it’s like an automatic flow of sound through multiple people, or a current which carries them with it. Then I also connect to “conductors”, who are influencing other people to follow this music (eg trend-setters / people who are copied, respected or listened to), but it also feels like these conductors themselves are also being conducted by the same “music” / current, and being used for its agenda in exactly the same way.

            I also get connection to people who people react against the conductors or music / flow, and try to conduct a different “tune”, or who ignore or attack the music / flow of autopilot behaviour, and at times it feels like this too is prompted by the shit, that it wants specific people to oppose the flow, for example to break them down / wear them out, or as a token opposition, or to make the people who are going with the autopilot flow / music feel like they’re being radical / dangerous and going against the status quo.

            I see what looks like a framework surrounded by water, and it feels like the framework represents the structure of society / people in specific positions, and the water represents pretty much everyone else, the people who can be taken over by the autopilot templates. It feels like the water / group thinking autopilot people can be used to help manage things to stay the same / maintain the structure of society and its hierarchies, or work to change something of this in pre-defined, desired ways.

            Some people seem to be more naturally “resistant” to these autopilot templates. I see what look like currents, representing the flow of people’s opinions or autopilot conformity, and then see other, opposing currents where other people are managed to disagree with and fight the original group of people. Then there also seem to be (often more isolated) people who are encouraged to stand up / speak out about something, but are rarely if ever listened to in any meaningful way.

            There seem to be some very subtle TXYZ networks here, which are managing beliefs, perspectives and ideologies. It feels like they have more of the same type of convoluted advantages which you described in your chat message at 1am, but different to those ones (perhaps working in other, ‘different’ types of convoluted ways).

            I engage with religions now, and the way in which these autopilot templates are used to get people to conform to or react against the different religions, or set up “offshoots / new branches” of them. Next I connect to writers such as Freud and Jung, and I become aware of currents of thought that flow through time, and people being propelled to agree or disagree with them, then of conflicts and cross-currents being set up.

            I connect to what feel like fads and movements, eg this type of therapy or that type of meditation – these seem to last for a time, and then be replaced by something else or changed.

            It feels like people are being subtly nudged one way or another over years and decades, particularly the “conductors” / people who other people follow. As an example of this, I connect to Freud’s views on the experiences of incest which many of his patients seem to have reported, and him changing his mind / saying they must all be making it up because there are too many of them reporting these experiences and it’s their own suppressed wishes (for example, to have sex with their father) rather than something which is really happening.

            I become aware of sets of associated timelines relating to specific areas of thinking over time / throughout the past. For example, I connect to what feel like ongoing schools of thought / ways in which things are done – “this is how to do a specific type of therapy / hypnosis, or this is how to build a house (eg using asbestos)”. Then I see ripples at specific points, like stones being dropped in, which seem to represent new books being written or new discoveries being made, which then change the timelines from that point onwards so that (some / many / most, depending on the change) therapists or hypnotists adopt different approaches, or different materials are used in buildings etc.

            I see new timelines starting, which seem to relate to “new” ways of doing things, eg therapy / hypnosis, or at other times it seems to be old ways of doing things which haven’t been used for some time and have been revived / given a different name or “spin”.

            It feels like this system works to “set up” events so that people encounter specific timelines / come across and are influenced by / react against or adopt different types of thinking / ways of doing things.

            I have the impression of something almost like a complicated weaving machine, with people being moved in and out of or through these different unfolding timelines, as the glass beads / trt’s and associated “thinking management templates” propel them in different ways. Next I get that there are some people being kept away from certain timelines or people / books associated with them / which are presenting specific ideas.

            It’s like there’s some kind of needs analysis going on for objectives in relation to each person / timeline – this feels like it should be going on continuously, and confirming at each moment that the correct progression has been chosen, but it’s as if everything’s already pre-defined and if this kind of calculation “is” happening, it’s entirely off the radar, in some kind of hidden space. This / the system which I’m aware of now is more like something which is already pre-defined, and is “active” / doing things and making calculations, but also doesn’t feel “complete” at this stage.

            Now it feels like there are some kind of engines interacting with the trt’s of everyone who’s involved with a specific ‘timeline’ or is predicted as potentially being involved with it – but these engines seem to be influencing people ‘from the past’, and it’s like they’re focused on the integrity of the timeline (making sure each timeline continues for as long as it’s supposed to, so that it can have the desired effects by people doing things in specific ways in specific circumstances at specific times) but it also feels like the machines are focused on the personal objectives in relation to each person in the EAAS, and working to maintain them in the right trt’s / keep steering them towards a future target version of themselves.

            So these engines seem to be influencing people from the past, tweaking things here and there or making more coordinated / intrusive adjustments, to ensure that everything proceeds the way it’s supposed to. I get that technological progress (eg that of specific “preferred” SNV companies, who are being given advantages over other, non-SNV companies) is also being managed and controlled by some of these engines, which makes me think about the technological slowdown here in the EAAS.

            I see a cat’s cradle of interconnections stretching from these machines, which are active in the past and influencing through time, to current events and other past events which happened since the machines were “created” – it’s not clear yet exactly how they are created, but it feels sort of like what we found when there were shit sets generating new cells of memory with processors inside them, to meet increased demand – it’s like they’re automatically generated whenever some overseeing system, monitoring the progression of SNV objectives through time and making predictions about the future, detects that they’re needed.

            It feels like no major changes happen in the EAAS without these machines / processors knowing about it and being involved in it, since they appear to be involved in all the progression of different ideologies and perspectives over time, eg “immigrants are bad and stealing people’s jobs”, or “austerity is necessary to balance the budget”, or other perspectives which could contribute to the balance of power / the people who are in charge at a specific point in history and can make changes on behalf of many other people.

            So these machines seem to be driving changes in thinking / new products or ways of doing things etc in society, and sometimes it’s like they switch off for a while, then restart at a pre-defined point and “resurrect” something that was done in the past. I just had the example of the inquisition representing psychiatry and the benefits assessments, so it’s like different “means” to impact people in the same way, which started at different points in history but can be used to build up and worsen broadly similar trt’s. Also, the people who were put through the original inquisition could then be set up to encounter psychiatry here and or have the benefits assessments, to continue the accumulation of these inquisition-related traumas.

            The same machines seem to be driving different kinds of broadly similar or related changes in different cultures / changes which are “tailored” to how that society currently is / thinks, some of which could be more extreme than others, depending on what that particular culture was “ready” to implement. This for example allows them to compare the changes being made / ways of doing things being implemented in many different contexts, and analyse them all / compare the changes and come up with ideas to make one or the other “better” in terms of achieving SNV objectives, then prompt a key person to “come up with” the idea to do this / what the machines want them to do.

            It feels like specific people are “earmarked” / chosen to push specific reforms – as an example of this I connect to the guy who came up with the bedroom tax / benefits assessments in the UK, and it’s as if these people can be very finely controlled by the overseeing machines to present information / ideas in exactly the right way so that others (eg other decision-makers) will agree with them, and the changes will then be implemented – I see all the glass beads / trt’s relating to all these people moving in unison / sort of “rippling” as they encounter the information they’re supposed to agree (or disagree) with, and it’s as if these “earmarked” key people are used as levers who are fundamental to making the changes which these machines want to happen in a specific culture / area.

            I become aware of specific groups of people being targeted, eg by legislation or changes in a specific company, and it feels like they were manoeuvred to be part of that group / work at that company in the first place, so that they could then be impacted by changes which this system already knew it was going to make.

            Next I get that everyone has a trajectory or set of trajectories which is being monitored and choreographed the way this system wants it to be – this seems to relate to factors like income, quality of life, interactions, home environment etc.

            I get that for each person, some actions are rewarded and some are punished – it feels like an ongoing punishment and reward (reprogramming) system.

            Now I get that rewards and punishments can also be delivered to specific groups of people, so that even if you yourself haven’t done anything which would trigger the reward / punishment / reprogramming system, you can still be strongly influenced by it, just from being part of a specific group or class of people from this system’s perspective, which this system likely manoeuvred you to be part of in the first place.

            Now it feels like the reward / punishment system can change and become more or less aggressive / stringent / reactive at specific times (even randomly), and that it can also react to the symbolic resonance of things which people or groups do, and can react to these in different ways, depending on what type of symbolism it’s chosen to react to, out of a range of possibilities. More and more, it just feels like excuses for this system to do whatever it likes to whoever it likes, whenever it likes. The seemingly random alteration in aggressiveness reminds me of what I’ve often experienced with the mindloops – I’m doing something which doesn’t seem to trigger them, and then it suddenly switches from one minute, hour or day to the next, for no apparent reason at all.

            There seem to be TXYZ shit delivery systems associated with specific people, places and groups which have dormant shit and can activate literally at any time, and begin to deliver effects. It almost feels like it’s been done in a deliberately random way, to keep people off balance / not knowing what is going to happen next.

            I engage with what feel like pre-defined scripts for specific conversations, and “spikes” of trauma impacting one person or the other at a specific moment, to get them to change the subject / forget something / remember something or react in a particular way to something which has / hasn’t been said.

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            Clive
            January 24, 2020 @ 6:58 pm

            Megan RE my reply to Shalin’s comment you could do the same, i.e. the next time you do the current/latest focus start with:

            ” . . . I connect to absolutely anything/everything that has been deliberately designed into my personal data/trt store and or anywhere else that has been, is now and or would in the future contribute to: ”

            And then ‘think of or mentally list/internally highlight’ anything you’re not happy with!!!!

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    Shalin
    January 24, 2020 @ 5:16 pm

    Clive, So I’ve done the focus about 12 times in the past 2 days and I don’t see much as usual. Each time I do the focus it takes me about 1 hour as with intent I connect to all of my trauma/situation/circumstance categories I have experienced in this life and their timelines. There is a lot of SHIT I have experienced in this life so each round of focus takes some time to fully cover everything.

    What I got:

    1) I got an assembly line of what appeared to be items like balls/beads or bottles moving along conveyer belt/assembly line and each getting some kind of attention as they passed through a station along the line. Think of an assembly line filling bottles of pepsi cola for example – the bottles each get a squirt of cola at the cola station, then a cap at the cap station and then a label at the labeling station. I don’t know what the context of any of this is- whether the bottles/balls/beads represent our traumas/trts and the assembly line being how they move along in time??

    2) Another time I got a structure like a circular space station https://i.stack.imgur.com/Q89O4.jpg with multiple rings. Each of the rings were rotating in different directions and along a ring are compartments of traumas/trts/pre-defined-shit. I tried to feel into it but wasn’t able to get any more than that.

    Seems to me 1 & 2 above appear to be like what Tom described with the beads but slightly different representation.

    The following are my situations/circumstances/trauma categories although many of these involve multiple combination of these:

    a) Financial loss traumas & poverty circumstances/situations
    b) Job loss traumas & current/past job stressors/frustrations/disappointments/cognitive-overload/overwhelmed
    c) HIV & STD related traumas
    d) Family conflicts- physical/verbal/emotional/sexual abuse
    e) Romantic relationship loss/heartbreak -I repel women for whatever reason
    f) Dollhouse/body invasions
    g) Conflicts/incidences that have caused extreme guilt/shame/embarrassment/self-hate
    h) Sexual addictions & sexual frustrations
    i) My entire persona/behavior is conflict, combative, anger, fear, & worry driven – conflicts with friends, conflicts with strangers, conflicts with family, conflicts with coworkers, conflicts with money, conflicts with romance, conflicts with sexuality, conflicts with myself
    j) Hatred/disdain for people in authority – politicians, corporate executives, governments, my father etc

    I don’t know if:
    1) there is anything built into my data stores that is DELIBERATELY causing my physical imbalances/symptoms (as in to keep me STUCK/DEBILITATED). Like shit A messes with the Liver, shit B messes with the spleen/stomach, shit C messes with the Kidney and so on.
    OR
    2) whether they are the end result of all of the above issue/trauma/circumstance/situation categories being LOCKED in my subtle/physical body
    OR
    3) whether there is something entirely different responsible for it that I am not aware of and not able to describe/articulate?

    Your latest update re: Tom’s feedback is fascinating. I can see that I have so many autopilot/automatic triggers/beliefs/thinking/reactions, specific people who ALWAYS trigger conflicts/combative-situations with me and reward/punishments of which I have mostly had punishments in this life (must be like for every 1 reward I’ve had 20 punishments) and specific circumstances/sabotages that repeat over and over again to fck me up.

    I will continue with the focus and report back if anything new pops up but I definitely don’t see things like how you/Tom do.

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        Clive
        January 24, 2020 @ 6:54 pm

        Great effort Shalin, you’re obviously starting to get some decent access to current ‘shit’ . . . next time you do the focus start with:

        ” . . . I connect to absolutely anything/everything that has been deliberately designed into my personal data/trt store and or anywhere else that has been, is now and or would in the future contribute to: ”

        Then read/scan your comment issue list with the intention to ‘engage with everything’ directly or indirectly contributing to anything of any of these . . . and then switch to do the main/current focus, as this will likely ‘help’!!!!

        Everyone is different when doing scans Shalin, although I suspect that the external/upper lot/help have copied/pasted adapted Tom’s hacking tech to work with your focus/scan efforts!!!!

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        Clive
        January 25, 2020 @ 1:31 am

        30th Jan: Latest UPDATE and current best Focus trauma ‘release’ to use at the present time!!!!

        We seem to have no further separate sabotaging ‘shit’ blocking access to each persons personal trauma data however we have found a few people whom have had there personal data stores modified/adapted in ways to block/make releases of trauma/personal shit effects as difficult as possible. So, immediately below is a new focus that targets this ‘blocking’ shit specifically:

        BEST FOCUS TO FACILITATE PERSONAL TRAUMA/TRT ‘RELEASES’: The focus immediately below is currently the best to use if you’ve anything ‘difficult’ going on because this specifically targets anything limiting/blocking TRT/personal data access/releases:

        . . . I connect to any components/combinations of components that have been, are now and or that would in the future contribute to indexing and or coveting/keeping hidden/obscured and or fire-walling, guarding, locking down and or screening access to my own or anyone else’s trauma and or personal/persona/behaviour and or response data and or current incarnated life culture/society and or status/class/standing data for myself/each individual and or anything that is contributing in the slightest to making up/defining specific angles of and or specific trauma/trt’s and or trt impacts as well as deliberately traumatic/traumatizing ‘trauma/shit effects’ releases and or anything monitoring, predicting, preempting and or then reacting to, blocking/locking, locking down/containing and or otherwise detrimentally interfering with any trauma and or any trt/trt combination releases including using Chinese finger-traps, vicious feedback spirals, loops and or anything which contributes to define a wide range/variety of influences with variable/numerous delivery options and or variable/numerous final influence/influences and or impacts as part of making tracking and or countering/neutralising anything of any of this as difficult as possible . . .

        Targeting Ultra Transforming/Self Altering SHIT: I connect to absolutely anything/everything that has been designed to emulate advantages and of give any shit ‘advantages’ such that hacking this shit is difficult or impossible, shit that in various combinations and under certain conditions/circumstances have been specifically designed/refined/tested/optimised to work/function in very convoluted/miss-leading/constantly transforming and or generating fractal like aspects/sub aspects/functions/divergent functioning versions/aspects of itself and or otherwise functioning in ways to be as difficult to track/understand/decode/figure out never mind negate/neutralise/block . . . and or anything/any combination of components that we’re specifically designed to emulate any type of advantages/advantaged abilities/characteristics and or ‘functioning and particularly to avoid being tracked/hacked and or then compromised/combated/tamed/negated/disabled and or understood . . . and or generates any temporary and or compressed and or ultra compressed but ‘still’ able to generate functional components from these including as micro dot/coded data/information type components and or anything similar and or equivalent and or just temporarily/momentarily, and or any interacting reality foundation substrates and or any temporary non-normal ‘pockets or strata’s’ of reality temporarily appearing and disappearing on the fly and or anything with similar and or equivalent functions/functioning abilities/objectives and or anything exhibiting eclectic/apparent randomised and or illogical/chaotic functioning and or that defines and or generates any dormant ‘dust’ or equivalent type data particle components that on when ‘activated/wake up’ do things under TXYZ conditions, and or as part of setting up circumstances to have knock-on and or long-term and or accumulative effects on specific people and or their environments/others connected to them and or anything/any combination of ‘anythings’ including temporary ‘processors’ that directly or indirectly define, re-write and or alter base reality functioning and or rulesets and or generate temporary versions of the same or similar anywhere/everywhere and or while modifying the base functioning/functionality of the components associated with it including switching from logic to anti-logic to variations of fuzzy logic and semi-logic and chaotic ‘logic’ and any switching Rubic’s Cube type and or CrystalMaze like efforts and or any other variations of non-normal/abnormal functioning components and or that switches between these and or other variations/possibilities ALL THE TIME to make/keep itself as untrackable, none understandable/incomprehensible/bizarre/illogical and or fuzzy, chaotic, anti-logical/none logical etc, from one moment to the next, and then again the next moment and or use multiple conflicting logics/anti-logic variations and or anything else/any other combination simultaneously and or anything contributing to continually keeping it all transforming/altering any/all aspects of itself, it’s functioning though time

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            Clive
            January 25, 2020 @ 6:09 pm

            Updated Latest focus version is above!!!

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    Megan
    January 25, 2020 @ 4:40 am

    Thanks for the addition Clive it helped a bunch!

    So, I am taking dance and yoga classes, and as much as the original focus helped I was still feeling resistance to doing, or the idea of doing, physical exercise, and by extension, hard work so I just listed this for my first time using the latest update to the focus.

    I was always told, ‘…to work hard and you’ll make your dreams come true’, or ‘work hard and you’ll be happy,’ and I whole-heartedly agreed with this in the past and live by it, still do in a way. But the sad thing I realize for those things I really worked hard for, in the best way I understood or knew how, I was never happy, and my dreams never came true.

    ‘Hard work’ and lying, presenting a false self that others would accept and approve of and wanted to see, is all I have ever been able to do to connect with people, or even attempt to be or do what I wanted or wanted to get done, which in my case bordered on self-abusive on many levels. From believing I was lazy, to being self-conscious and obedient to the thoughts/feelings/beliefs/opinions of others. I worked hard to the point of hatred of myself and my life and others, too burnt out because I never got what had been promised or implied.

    I get it now why this system would spin it to have me hate my original – ‘Higher’- self, being able to feel, my own sensitivities and awareness, and even topics of ESP/spirits/spirituality.

    Reading Clive’s reply to Shalin about those on the outside likely giving him a copied version of Tom’s hacking tech to help him out, and I want to help the hacking efforts in any way I can, and I immediately get resistance. A part of me hates the idea. I see me/she/it sitting in an isolated, gray corner with her back turned to me. I suddenly feel old and tired, and just want to be left alone. I’m sick and tired of the harassment. It’s also scary. I don’t want to lose anything/everything!

    My thoughts then stray onto romance and intimate relationships, and I realize that it’s not that I am averse to having an intimate relationship with someone else, it’s that I literally cannot have a relationship with someone, not without it ending in absolute disappointment and misery. And this block feels physical somehow, like it is a part of my body. This also reminds me about my own reflections and musings on family, and how the structure of family and its importance is designed to restrict and traumatize us.

    Shalin, if I may, it might be a good idea to focus on just one issue at time when you are working with the focus rather than a whole group of issues all in one sitting at least until you get used to how the focuses work for you. Reason being is back when I first started using the focuses, I didn’t really see anything either, and after months of frustration and failure I was guided to slow down and just focus on one issue at a time. The first issue was my disconnect with my emotions/lower chakras and having to learn how to accept, identify and express my emotions in a healthy manner since I tended to block them out or avoid them at all costs, I had actually stopped doing focuses for the most part during this time. Once I was comfortable with feeling again no matter how I felt I was encouraged to pick the focuses back up again. Sometimes even just doing a focus on one issue would cause a waterfall or daisy chain effect into other areas that bothered me, and even into other areas that were a problem, but I didn’t think anything of them.

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    Annabelle
    January 26, 2020 @ 3:18 am

    No less than 3 new family and friends medical emergencies to include cancer, broken hip, and breathing issues. My stress level is thru the roof as I try to help and cover for everyone. During all of this, some friends started asking about very personal details – like what time is the hospital appointment and what are the names of my relatives involved. I wondered why they asked and they said they were going to enroll me in their church prayer chain. I thought I really do not want that, and it seems uninvited prayers are an intrusion. I remember as a child looking at church bulletins and seeing long lists of peoples names with all of their problems listed in the prayer section.
    As of January 1, I started to get severe hives all over and worked to eliminate food allergens and bought all new organic cotton clothing. This was of no help. I finally thought of a medication I have been taking for one year and stopped it and the hives disappeared over night.
    Did the recent focus and saw a ball of wet and tangled spaghetti spinning like a globe.
    I continue to have a lack of enjoyment of most of my favorite activities and wish I could feel good and happy.
    Continuous dreams about old relationships that seem to be releasing trauma – like should I continue this relationship, and it really isn’t working out, so what ever happened is ok.

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        Clive
        February 14, 2020 @ 4:27 pm

        Hi Annabella, I think we’re likely in a phase where (because of the system is starting to ‘fail/have problems’) it’s possible it’s resorted to causing personal connection ‘problems’ i.e. distracting problems with respect to close others!!!! Although your last paragraph is also of ‘relationship’ traumas/problems so, these ‘could’ also be attempts to facilitate releases related to your connections/feelings towards others which if I remember correctly that you’re a leader/key person of a none SNV culture might also relate to people within your specific culture having problems/difficulties too i.e. these ‘others’ problems could be representing larger scale incidents of the person you are simulating related to trauma too!!!!

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    Shalin
    February 4, 2020 @ 7:57 pm

    Clive, I’ve done the latest 2 focuses anywhere from 5-15 times per day the week or so. I got thoughts of Bernie Sanders (US politician), visions of naked women/sex, old memories, all sorts of fictional stories/fantasies & often deep silence/stillness. Seems like a lot of nonsense/nothingness.

    However, I did have some interesting thoughts during focus BUT were very brief: (more details further below): vision of an octopus like structure, a honeycomb structure, a casino slot machine, email/physical-letters(paper/wood/tree angle), a pipe network/system, mobile/cellular network, lasers used for fire-walling/guarding, spanish/venus fly trap blocking/locking release of trauma/trts – in all those cases the thought/awareness was very brief – like 3-5 seconds each at most. In each instance I tried to engage further but was unable to get anything more.

    That said, I am not any closer to finding the root causes of my problems. I have my *issue list* and the focus results referred above BUT I don’t get any insights/clues from focus sessions on what is ACTUALLY CAUSING/CONTRIBUTING to any of these and/or my extreme physical imbalances.

    Below are more details of my focus results BUT these are for just a split second -5 seconds at most(so I don’t know whether my mind is deliberately creating this or whether I actually saw this?).

    -octopus like structure/creature with legs spread out in all directions. Its legs/tentacles were connected to vessels of what I thought were pre-defined-shit/traumas/trts BUT I only saw this for a very short few seconds. There was an octopus for every subtle being and it seemed responsible for some aspect of operations of our data and/or was responsible for guarding/locking-down/fire-walling access to our traumas/trts/persona/behavior/response/reactions/culture data
    -Honeycomb or fibonacci structure/network – I also saw this for a very short few seconds and its not clear to me what this network was being used for
    -Casino Slot machines – perhaps a network of casino slot machines whose pull results were contributing to *something* about us – don’t know what though.
    -Email/Paper letters (paper made from trees and used to record/store SHIT) and with email to exchange/send SHIT
    -Thought of Blue Coat Systems (one of my former employer that makes network/security appliance/technologies) – is that fire-walling me?
    -Pipe network/system (water, natural gas, oil) types – but not sure if this is our physical pipe network or the something virtual in the sim used to do *something* – don’t know what though.
    -Mobile networks – not sure what it was being used for but thought came up.
    -Lasers used for fire-walling/guarding/locking down:
    a) Film: Oceans Twelve – Lasers used to guard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wnEuOJg_dA
    b) Film: Entrapment – Lasers used to guard work of art: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX2_LCUkhDs

    -Spanish/Venus fly trap plant being used to block/lock release of trauma/trts

    —————————————————————————-

    2nd/3rd Updates:

    I also forgot to mention that there has been a LOT of manipulative activity targeting me this past week. I have this ONE FRIEND who has a knack for instigating arguments, heated discussions and debates and during those he often resorts to insults when he is losing the argument/debate/discussion.

    I am 100% sure he is being used by the SIM to target me – to draw out predefined responses from me as in combative/argumentative/agitation/flustered/anger type of responses.

    This has been happening very frequently this week over the Whatspp text message application for smartphones. We have a group chat with a lot of my friends but its ONLY this ONE friend who continues to be used as a pawn by the SIM to continuously draw out predefined responses/behavior out of me and then to fuk me up.

    Sometimes I am able to ignore it but a lot of times my response is automatic and I can’t help myself.

    We often go long periods of calm but this week seems the SIM has him on overdrive trying every which way to get a response out of me.

    I still get dreams of past girlfriends. Had one last night. I dont know if that is an *separate* sabotage artifact OR whether it is part of my trauma/personal/persona/behavior/response/trt/etc… data stores.

    Just an FYI because your latest update indicated all *separate* sabotage SHIT was basically neutralized. There may be more if those dreams are NOT part of my data stores.

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        Clive
        February 9, 2020 @ 3:32 pm

        Hi Shalin/Everyone . . . ‘good effort’ . . . in that (from the overall feedback I’m getting) we do seem to ‘JUST’ be dealing with what is within people’s persona/persona data (although some people have been deliberately subjected to very specific circumstances/efforts (mostly in VR’s) to design in factors that lock down/make difficult to unravel/deal with specific traumatic and or debilitating circumstances/experiences).

        For example, in that I’ve found myself temporarily back in some ‘shit/weird’ effects (extreme ‘head’ based stress/tension effects so bad that my ‘jaw’ would literally ‘lock’ (that I actually resolved and then haven’t had for 4/5 years now)) then this has indicated to me that my own personal/persona data is obviously being checked out with respect to all past incidents as well as any/all combinations of ‘interacting’ and or accumulating over time factors too.

        In other words, we seem to be having all angles/facets of our personal data trt stores and all factors with respect to all interactions between different experiences/circumstances as well as the progressive of accumulations over time investigated too . . . while also trying to edit/alleviate these and or get access to while specifically trying to release/reduce any/all types of trauma . . .

        Now quite often specific ‘trauma’ relates to circumstances involving other people (a relationship breakup would be a classic example) so, as part of investigations of these some people will find themselves perhaps having ‘dreams’ of these people/types of circumstances/traumas and or they may find themselves spending time thinking about and or even having direct contact with these ‘past’ people too . . .

        ——————————————–

        However, for yourself specifically Shalin because you obviously have ’embedded’ as well as often ‘severe’ symptoms I spent time having a feel around and I’m pretty sure that your original form was (lets say) ‘kidnapped’ and then actually tortured, such that it’s likely that your embedded trauma/shit effects are the outcome of this.

        So, A) I’ve done some scans for these specific circumstances BUT B) if you yourself do any more scans it would likely help if you have the intention to directly connect to the original ‘torture’ circumstances before doing these to help deal with these ‘shit’ circumstances more effective/directly!!!!

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    Shalin
    April 1, 2020 @ 4:44 am

    FYI – Clive, this video describes your discoveries/theories on birth certificate, taxation, federal reserve, postal system etc perhaps from a different angle.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv0QG63ORkA

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    Trent
    April 17, 2020 @ 6:38 pm

    In response to “Yea, Shalin the Tibetans are ‘special/a one off’”

    Just a crazy line of thinking I had the other day..

    If this place was created/designed/etc with the intention of it being hacked then those who instigated this probably wouldn’t leave it up to chance as to whether it was actually hacked or not.. which means that you/other hackers/wsw’s/etc might’ve been influenced/directed to hack it in the first place, inclusive of all kinds of decisions you had to make along the way, things you had to research/notice/find out about/remember/piece together/etc to lead you to hack the things that are ‘meant’ to be hacked, and if this is true then you may all still be being influenced in these ways and having your efforts directed behind the scenes.

    Also if these way up over people wanted this place to be created and for it to be the way it is, then could they have decided which people would populate this MV? Could they have also directed the decision for the sim to create copies/versions of these people such that theres now a lot of those specific people? And since it’s apparently possible to move between MVs and the plan seems to be that we leave this place and go somewhere else, then could there be some larger scale plans for us after we leave? It’s fascinating to think of all these people who can move around to different mvs, meet up with all kinds of people and the potential that we could play key roles in all kinds of events that happen over very long time scales throughout the larger scale ‘game’. Things that might not have happened without us?

    I don’t know. Trains of thought that seem to piss things off / get reactions.

    Also the Egyptians, I guess them leaving wasn’t a coincidence / wasn’t really their own decision?

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        Clive
        May 8, 2020 @ 1:06 am

        Hi Trent/everyone . . . “If this place was created/designed/etc with the intention of it being hacked then those who instigated this probably wouldn’t leave it up to chance as to whether it was actually hacked or not.. which means that you/other hackers/wsw’s/etc might’ve been influenced/directed to hack it in the first place,”

        Yea, ‘EXACTLY’ Trent . . . I’ve been feeling ‘SET UP’ . . . design a shit/completely fucked up world, that’s going to get worse and worse while setting up people to figure out it’s a fake world and then get them to start to try and hack it/stop it from doing what it was designed/set up for . . .

        Sorry ‘regulars’ I’ve been in a fair amount of ‘shit/distractions’ recently (at least for me) making thinking/doing anything much more difficult . . . although I’ve managed to massively update and extend the ‘missing people’ fake reality evidence page to include some completely new angles (I’ll try and get that updated here in the next day or two ) . . . overall the upper shits that set this place up seem to be getting on analysing/tracking and trying to negate and or more likely ‘control’ the shit effects impacting us BUT so far they seem pretty useless . . . I’m now also very sure that they’re using the global (likely made up) virus scare to then have different cultures respond differently specifically to ‘maximise’ the multiples of copies of different ‘people’ behaviour diversity too!!!!

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    Shalin
    May 8, 2020 @ 3:37 am

    Clive, maybe thinking about hacking/brainstorming from Sun Tzu & Niccolo Machiavelli Art of War literature & Game Theory could be useful. If you are being setup to think in certain directions/angles then maybe its deliberate and the right path is something else.

    I’m finding the Art of War / Game Theory being the tactic being employed my Q/Trump against the Cabal/illuminati. Every step is a calculated move anticipating every permutation of the opponents steps well into the future.

    In your case the opponent are the EAAS designers. I wish I could dive more deeper into the literature & strategies but you know my extreme situation which is preventing me from doing or thinking anything properly without me head feeling like its going to explode.

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    Megan
    July 18, 2020 @ 7:47 pm

    “Now Tommy, my nature spirit awakening experience that I described here, is missing some extra weird bit’s . . . after completely leaving/walking away from the tree circle area, about a quarter mile away I feel and start to track myself being followed by a Wood Nymph whom seems to me to be in a very very sexy/seductive/enticing mood (with respect to myself) . . . which has myself ‘energetically’ determinedly sealing myself off from her . . . while doing this Joan also starts laughing while also mentioning that I’ve a very seductive Wood Nymph trailing me while also mentioning that it’s best I ‘NOT’ let her engage with myself else I might have trouble getting rid of her . .”

    Clive, in regards to your experience with the wood nymph or any other nature spirits, did many of them come off as seductive? I’m asking because recently I had been working on a Heart-center issue regarding an inappropriate encounter with an older gentleman who was significantly older than myself, and when I finally got frustrated and asked a nature spirit who has been working with me for a while, ‘What did I do wrong, where did I go wrong?’ The reply I got was like nature spirits always come off as sexual/seductive. This revelation solved my heart issue, but it got me thinking about all the other incidents I have had in the past with either married or older men, one even being my grandfather, and your comment about me being a ‘fairy/plant/healer’ type. If it is any correlation, my middle name is ‘Rose,’ and having read a few Greek myths on nature spirits and how they have been the lovers of mortals and god alike I look up the myths for roses and I find some that are associated with Aphrodite/Venus, Eros/Cupid, various prophets and saints like Muhammed and St. Francis of Assisi; leaders like Alexander the Great, Nero, Mary Queen of Scots, and Cleopatra; as well as various Popes and the Crusaders. In general, roses symbolize love and romance, but can have different meaning depending on the color and number of roses presented.

    Regarding the head/mental stuff I have been dealing with I am getting a lot of ‘psychiatric’ stuff. An example would be a few weeks ago I kind of had a mental breakdown when it came to interacting with the spirits I am working with because I can only see them in my head, the same place where all of my fantasies and daydreams and wishful thinking things, come from. I am still repressing my senses in a way. I am still punishing myself for this in some way because something tells me I should know better. I also got the strange idea that the ‘Inquisition’ dealt with the body focused subtle senses like what could be physically felt (I know a lot of their questioning methods involved physical mutilation/desecration/torture) and ‘psychiatric/psychological’ dealt with the head/mental space and what one saw, thought, believed about the world and about themselves.

    I will say, by the way I act around other people and how awkward and wrong I feel interacting with others, I wouldn’t be surprised if people think that I am mentally ill or insane. I mumble to myself a lot, especially when I’m struggling with a particularly difficult issue, and I know a co-worker of mine heard me say ‘I hate myself’ at one point. But some part of me can’t help but hate me because I keep fucking up my relationships. I don’t and can’t interact normally with others around me, and when I have obviously made a fool out of myself publicly, I hate myself even more. I’m guessing this has a lot to deal with the missing people manipulations/interactions you’ve talked about.

    I am still being stopped from learning/understanding/comprehending hard/difficult concepts or maintaining an interest in things I want to research/learning.

    Do you have an update as to how things are going? I’m guessing the Royal Shits Up on High are still trying to get their poop in a group.

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        Clive
        July 22, 2020 @ 12:40 am

        Re seductive nature spirits – it was just that first encounter Megan, the upper lot are still doing what they want, I’ve had another 2 physical symptom sets, but it’s now obvious that with me they’re ‘adjusting’ my reactions to these so that I barely notice them – so we’re still is the same phase, with the upper lot doing what they want adjustment wise with respect to their own objectives!!!

        Also, as I’ve not really had any significant issues they seem to be using me as a blank sheet to subject me to specific ‘one off’ things that would be ‘lost’ amongst most other peoples full scale of issues/debilitations.

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    Xin Ying
    June 5, 2021 @ 9:14 am

    I was kind of directed to look at the halo series and read about the forerunner culture which led me to looking up the section about precursors. When I saw the design of them I thought they kind of look like crab people and I tried projecting that image in front of me and I found that i resonated with the image and found myself being comfortable with it having an androgynous gender.
    https://www.halopedia.org/Precursor

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Subtle Cultures Earth Research & Ancient Gods Helping/Supporting the First Incarnated Settlers/Pioneers!!!

December 24, 2019

New page, giving yet more evidence of subtle forms interfacing from a very different angle . . . I’m using two sections from this page (the oak forest section and the Roman getting pregnant, giving birth, looking after baby, young toddler/child . . . etc) to expand on these angles for later pages . . . i.e. when the later pages get written these sections will disappear from this page!!!!

In writing earlier versions of this page I’ve been very gradually becoming more and more aware of the sheer scale and variety of ancient ‘Gods & Goddesses’ as well as the sheer scale and breadth of in some cases very narrow earth environment and or human life angles that they were apparently ultra obsessed with PLUS that we have many different, separate Gods connected to many different cultures all obsessively focused on the exact same earth life and environment aspects/areas too.

These repeating patterns eventually had me realising that absolutely ‘everything’ that is significantly different IN ANY WAY between the subtle form and any avatar/animal form it may find itself interfaced to as well as of any and all differences between the subtle environment and the physical environment and particularly the day in day out, as well as any LONGER TERM embedded habitual experiences of all subtle forms (whom in most cases will have been around for 10’s of millions of years) are then very likely to cause serious problems with respect to them adapting to being incarnated into what would be an utterly/exceptionally different i.e. completely alien physical environment while also being interfaced to and hence then being ‘represented’ by, an exceptionally, utterly different ‘alien’ animal vehicle/avatar life form which compared to the immortal subtle form is exceptionally short lived never mind that how most physical forms propagate/reproduce (to be quite explicit) is also utterly absolutely/different compared to how subtle forms propagate too!!!!

Let me give you some actual examples of the scale and range of pretty much any subtle form’s utterly embedded, engrained experiences and habits as well as its automatic/automated expectations, all of which will be exceptionally, utterly embedded because they will have accumulated over an utterly vast time scale. Coincidentally absolutely all of these engrained habits and expectations will be exceptionally, utterly different compared to absolutely anything it will experience regularly, if not ALL THE TIME should it ever become incarnated and hence then find itself permanently living as some animal form while it endeavours to have an earth based physical life experience!!!
Our Subtle Form & the Subtle Population’s Long Term Subtle Experience Made Explicit

Most subtle forms will have been living as a subtle being within the subtle environment for literally 10’s of millions of subtle years, in fact, many of the subtle population will be around 15 million subtle years old around the time that they started to become aware of the parallel physical strata, although it would be even longer before they’d figure out how to interface some of the early subtle explorers/researchers to various aspects of the physical . . . in other words in that the vast majority of the subtle population will have been propagating by dividing asexually to produce either identical and or none identical twins of the parent form then this will result in pretty much ALL OF THEM having approximately 10 or 15 or 20 million years of absolutely embedded subtle environment experiences inclusive, for example, of themselves and everyone else always living IN THE SKY although it is also exceptionally likely that they’d all have a lot of experiences ‘splitting/dividing’ to produce twins/duplicates of themselves many, many times too . . .

Can you reading this appreciate the problems of interfacing a form that’s basically had 10, 15 maybe 20 million years of then embedded subtle reality experiences into an utterly, completely different ‘alien’ surface of a planet environment never mind that they are all, when incarnated going to find themselves being ‘represented’ by a totally/utterly alien life form (compared to themselves)!!!!!

For example, pretty much any of the essentially alien physical animal forms (and particularly the larger ones) that any subtle form could be interfaced to also substantially change over time because most if not all of the larger animals go through multiple transforming, developmental phases as a newly born animal baby form grows in size while then living through various stages of growth and developmental transformations too!!!!

In that subtle forms divide asexually to then produce twins, which in most cases are then substantially equivalent to how they were before they ‘split’ in both size as well with respect to memories and experiences as well as with respect to acquired/learnt skills to the single original parent.

In this respect, absolutely none of the earth’s larger physical animal forms means of propagation, birth nor ‘growth’ phases/stages have any parallel with respect to the asexual, self dividing means of propagation that is ‘normal’ for the entire subtle population which I’ll remind you is also the only ‘species/life form’ within the subtle too!!!!

Basically, every single aspect of the subtle form’s embedded/engrained experiences of itself, its interactions with other subtle beings as well as of itself permanently living up in the sky within the subtle environment, all of which it will have accumulated over millions of years, will all be substantially different compared to what it will experience being incarnated/interfaced to a (relative to itself) very short lived physical animal life form while it spends time likely permanently living on the two dimensional surface of an alien physical world (rather than flying or bobbing around in the sky), and, rather than there being just one life form/species, there are a vast multitude of many, many, many different types, a small proportion of which will very likely be dangerous to its avatar’s ability to survive never mind all of the different types and varieties of earth pathogens responsible for all sorts of diseases as well as bad weather events, poisonous plants, venomous snakes and so on . . . in this respect it’s actually exceptionally likely that any large scale subtle to physical population incarnation effort is then very, very, very likely to include extensive overseeing guidance able to offer support and guidance at least for the first few incarnations/physical ‘lives’ until they all then gradually become adapted to the vast variety of differences . . . in other words, it seems exceptionally likely that there absolutely would have been ‘some’ subtle strata incarnation focused administration & support efforts specifically setup to monitor/track as well as guide/facilitate/support/help all of the newly incarnated subtle forms that were part of the first/earliest earth physical life colonisation efforts . . .
A Reminder of the STARK Differences Between the Subtle Form, Subtle Environment & its Current Physical Experience Circumstances

Let me ‘explicitly’, remind you of our current actual ‘human’ form circumstances as well as the past unfolding historical progression that led to these!!!

The human body is nothing more than a remote vehicle, an ‘avatar’ being driven around by an ‘intelligent’ none physical energetic/resonance based/frequency emitting ‘organism’ which is often called or described as ‘the soul’, and or as a ‘spirit’ although it’s occasionally seen or more often ‘felt’ as a ‘ghost’ form presence too (and particularly around the times when it’s been recently disengaged/de interfaced from the physical body/avatar form that it was using as a remote vehicle for its ‘now’ last life) although it is also sometimes referred to as the ‘subtle body’ here, at least within certain circles!!!

In that the process of initially researching and investigating/exploring the earth surface’s physical environments and habitats must have happened a very long time ago (in our terms) AND, that it is very likely that early physical earth planet incarnation and direct physical exploration efforts would have been very, very gradual, specifically because they’d have to figure out how to permanently as well as seamlessly interface their subtle people to likely a few different animal forms while then working out how to synchronise the subtle form to the daily (day and night and waking and sleep) cycles as well as more long term cycles (the seasons of the year for example) never mind of themselves also having to become used to the fact that unlike their subtle selves whom (if you remember the details I presented on the previous page) don’t ever actually have to go looking for food, nor then spend time preparing and then eating it to actually ‘STAY ALIVE’ never mind that all subtle beings in being immortal, then actually live FOR EVER & EVER & EVER too . . .

Based on what I write above, then one of the primary problems/handicaps of interfacing our subtle being/soul form to any physical animal form is that they are going to have to seriously adjust themselves with respect to them suddenly finding themselves interfaced to an animal form that then requires regular meals requiring them to adapt such that they then have to identify and then find and then eat food that is of an appropriate type for that specific animal avatar form. Although, it will also have to regularly find and also drink clean water and also then learn to shit and pee in places well away from either food or water sources while also having to find somewhere to sleep every night that’s ‘safe’ because rather than having absolutely no other species at all to think about, there are not only millions of different species on this earth planet BUT, unbelievably, none actually come with identifying labels specifically indicating whether they are poisonous or not, or are a predator of the animal you are currently using as a remote vehicle/avatar either!!!

Despite the above collection of day in and day out ‘adaptation’ problems, these will actually be minor compared to finding yourself interfaced to an animal that is not only ‘NOT’ IMMORTAL but worse, it also very gradually ages, becomes older and older such that over time it becomes more and more decrepit/disabled until ‘shock horror’ it eventually pegs out/kicks the bucket and then dies.

Which means that at the point that the interfaced form dies, it will be essential that the subtle form be de interfaced/disconnected from the now dead and hence then beginning to decay/break down body. If it’s not de-interfaced from the dead physical body fairly promptly it may end up being described/labelled as being one of the ‘still living’ dead.

Once de-interfaced from the physical avatar form, its subtle perceptions/senses, in now no longer being physical body/physical reality orientated (these sensory signals would have been being transmitted via the subtle to physical interfacing) would (depending on the culture) likely be fed sensory signals representing some type of virtual ‘reception’ space where it would likely have to wait until a suitable developing fetus of a currently pregnant animal form becomes available before it would then find itself re-interfaced/incarnated into a physical life form ‘YET AGAIN’!!!

So, overall during these early physical world exploration times, you are actually interfacing an exceptionally different i.e. an ‘alien’ subtle energetic organism to a remote physical avatar/vehicle. Such that despite that the subtle form (unlike the animal form) is actually ‘intelligent’ it is exceptionally unlikely to have any clue what so ever about any facet of the physical environment except/unless it’s been directly involved in some way with the physical earth planet remote investigations/research and or if it’s been intensively educated about different facets of the earth’s physical environment and also the exceptionally alien (to itself) physical animal form it’s supposed to use as a remote vehicle/avatar to inhabit/explore i.e. to actually attempt to FUNCTION/LIVE within this unbelievably different essentially alien environment/habitat!!!!

Just in case you ‘STILL’ don’t get what I’m trying to make clear here . . . then let me point out some things/angles for you to think about and particularly with respect to putting yourself in the position of being a subtle leader and or those subtle forms directly working on behalf of some subtle form leader whom specifically finds ‘ITSELF’ (remember it’s not either male or female) at the point of just THINKING about maybe/possibly interfacing some of their better educated subtle people as part of putting together a small specific environment/habitat expedition team whom would be responsible for figuring out as much as possible as part of preparations to have their entire subtle culture essentially pretty much permanently interfaced to some physical animal form.
The Needing to Regularly Find & Eat Food & have Shelter Within an Utterly/Unbelievably Alien Environment Problem

All the details and problems of which they’d very much have to figure out ‘well before’ they’d start to interface a significant number of there cultures larger subtle population into the physical and particularly as part of them starting to put together their own physical culture . . .

In that this would be a massive undertaking i.e. it essentially represents a mass exodus of an entire population of immortal subtle beings whom have naturally arisen and hence then always (as in ‘forever and ever’) lived within a very, very different energetic/resonance based environment for likely a very very long time being interfaced to a very, very different as well as essentially unknown ‘alien’ environment while being interfaced to (a ‘to themselves’) exceptionally alien type of life form!!!

Let me present you with what is likely a very limited/contained list of things they’d seriously need to know about before even starting to interface more than a very few subtle people to any physical animal species within what to themselves, and their entire population would be an exceptionally/utterly ‘alien’ landscape/environment!!!!

    What water source is acceptable for any specific animal type to safety drink ‘and’ where are the best places to find this type of water and which water places should it avoid, perhaps because the water is stagnant, poisonous or is the home of crocodiles?
    What type of environment is any particular animal species adapted to live within?
    What other animals/animal species are predators of the form that you are interfacing to ‘and’ how do those animals detect and or attempt to avoid these predators?
    What other animals or plants are poisonous if eaten or if specific parts are eaten or even just touched by your newly interfaced subtle form whom perhaps finds itself as a cat or a mouse or a hawk or a pigeon or a wolf or a sheep or a reptile or frog or slug or snake or rabbit . . .

You have to keep in mind here that the earths animal species in being base instinct, needs, drives and or hungers focused/orientated are then unlikely to have even thought of designing and then building ‘shelters’, nor are they likely to even have the concept of writing/keeping records, such that they won’t have got round to writing any handy reference books detailing all useful and or dangerous aspects of different types of flora and fauna.

In other words, no matter what animal form any subtle form/subtle being is interfaced to this subtle form (despite being intelligent) is at least initially very likely not going to have any clue what so ever about what for themselves can only be described as an exceptionally alien physical environment (at least compared to the one it’s ALWAYS LIVED IN and hence then is ‘perfectly’ adapted to) never mind of having absolutely no understanding of any/all aspects of the physical world/environment which could be directly or indirectly dangerous/damaging to itself when it becomes interfaced to any type of avatar . . .

” . . . HEY!!! does anyone know if ‘this’ plant can be safely eaten by my specific animal avatar?!?!?, . . . No!!! OK, well, I’ll see what it tastes like then, BUT I’ve already decided I’m going to call it ‘Belladonna’?!?!?! . . . “

Wouldn’t the earliest subtle to physical animal form interfacing efforts have as an ultra top priority to specifically focus on the well-being and hence then the health of the animal form the subtle being/spirit was interfaced to!!!!

How would the earliest interfaced to an animal form subtle settlers be facilitated to properly look after the animal form they have been interfaced to!!!!

Let me remind you that the subtle form never actually consciously ‘eats’ anything. It doesn’t have to because its subtle body naturally as well as automatically absorbs the resonances/frequency combinations that are ‘nutrition’ to itself directly . . . it might feel or otherwise be prompted to spend time in a more ‘nutritious’ environment if it ever felt that it was deficient of any resonance or frequency combinations . . . contrast this with it then finding itself interfaced to an animal that both has to directly spend time eating to take in ‘nutrition’ while also having to spend time finding what it needs to eat which is some cases might require it to hunt and kill other animal forms to do nothing more than STAY ALIVE!!!!

Can you appreciate the stark problems here!?!?!?!

Which is that you have a life form, which for millions of years has very, very likely, completely unconsciously, taken in nutrition in ways that are substantially equivalent to a plant or tree.

In other words, in that the subtle form automatically with no effort or thought, takes in it’s nutrition from its surroundings/environment, such that it’s actually exceptionally unlikely to even have conceptually contemplated any form of life having to hunt and then kill and or having to regularly spend time gathering food never mind then having to spend time actually eating/chewing/swallowing food too!!!! It’s actually likely that if any subtle philosopher presented these as ideas/concepts they’d be considered crazy/mad. How would a subtle form that found itself incarnated/interfaced to some species of animal now living in the physical survive under these conditions? How would it know what is appropriate for its avatar to eat, how would it know where to catch and or find the food it’s avatar needs?

How easy would it be for an immortal being that is very likely to have never ever needed to do anything to ‘maintain’ any aspect of itself, to actually cope/adapt when it finds itself living as an alien life form, that to just stay alive has to spend regular time likely each and every physical day actually having to hunt/kill and or otherwise acquire food that it then needs to spend time eating JUST TO STAY ALIVE!!!!

Unfortunately it’s even worse than I describe above, because sometime after having eaten food, it will also find that the alien body it’s occupying eventually feels compelled to disgorge/eliminate unused waste food products, which it must also somehow magically learn to do well away from its normal living/sleeping areas as well as its food and water sources, else, ‘IF’ it doesn’t, it’s then at risk of becoming ill!!!!

Hence then, based on the above, can you appreciate the sheer scale of the forever and ever and ever embedded habits relating to the . . . “never ever even needing to think about looking for, nor ever having to learn to identify nor then regularly having to spend time eating ANY food, never mind very specific types of ‘food’ nor has it ever had to find somewhere safe/remote to regularly eliminate toxic/unhealthy processed body waste” . . . PROBLEM!!!

In this respect wouldn’t all subtle forms being made ready to be incarnated into the physical have to have drummed into themselves during the ‘Getting Yourself Ready to be Incarnated’ orientation sessions they’d likely have to ensure that they were all made very, very, very aware of all of the physical life ‘problems’ that THEY WILL ALL BE FACING & WILL HAVE TO ADAPT TO else they’ll very rapidly find themselves facing a multitude of problems!!!

I personally cannot see how even if all earth colonist volunteers experienced having ‘rather a lot of earth physical life orientation’ sessions how these would adequately prepare them for the actual reality of living as some alien physical animal species while also having to learn to live within an exceptionally alien environment!!!! In fact, it seems very obvious to me that they absolutely must have consistent ‘subtle’ support/facilitators watching out for themselves while also if necessary regularly directly intervening and helping them and particularly to make sure that they avoid all sorts of health problems . . . .

Coincidentally on checking, we seem to have had RATHER A LOT of health Deities/Gods in our ancient past, whom are seemingly associated with pretty much every major culture including: African, Armenian, Aztec, Celtic, Chinese, Egyptian, Etruscan, Greek, Hindu, Hittite, Inuit, Japanese, Maya, Mesopotamian, Native American, Norse, Persian, Phoenician, Roman, Sami, Slavic, Thracian, Yoruba and Afro-American . . .
African Health Deities:

    Agwu, Igbo god of health and divination
    Jengu, water spirits that bring good fortune and cure disease
    !Xu, sky god of the Bushmen of southern Africa who is invoked in illness
    Osanyin orisha of herbalism

Well the first two above cover both health in general (i.e. what you should eat), herbal use for remedies when you get sick, as well as an up in the sky god on call for actual illnesses i.e. likely serious illnesses as well as physical avatar body damage!!!!
Chinese Health Deities:

    Wu Ben (Baosheng Dadi, the King of Medicine)
    Shennong, a mythical emperor who spread knowledge of herbs and medicine.
    Taiyi Zhushen, God of Qi
    Taokang Geyan, God of Essence
    Zhang Guolao, one of the Eight Immortals, whose wine was considered to have healing properties
    He Xiangu, one of the Eight Immortals, whose lotus flower improves one’s mental and physical health
    Li Tieguai, one of the Eight Immortals, who alleviates the suffering of the poor, sick and needy with special medicine from his gourd
    Wong Tai Sin, a god with the power of healing
    Jiutian Xuannü, goddess of war, sex, and longevity (long life), who is connected to calisthenics, diet, alchemy, neidan (inner alchemy), and physiology

Strangely we have 3 of the above Gods explicitly described as immortal.

Coincidentally, you reading this are an immortal subtle/spirit/soul form that’s currently interfaced to physical human animal form that unfortunately has an exceptionally limited lifespan at least when compared to ‘immortal’. Perhaps this is why we also have the idea/concept of reincarnation presented by many cultures here.

Conceptually, exactly what in physical terms could be passed from a now dead body such that it is then able to be reborn through another body such that for some people, they are able to access details of past life memories?

The first reference to reincarnation appears in the Upanishads (the sacred scriptures of Hinduism) about 2600 years ago.

Now for my own current incarnated life’s culture/environment (in the UK) in the distant past, as well as the rest of Europe (if not pretty much ‘everywhere’), it was all originally exceptionally dense mixed woodland, BUT primarily of oak!!!

In other words, early subtle to physical research and investigations with respect to understanding enough to start to interface people would have been completely focused on a dense forest habitat that was primarily of oaks . . . although there’d likely be less to no trees on more upland/higher altitude areas and possibly even no trees on mountain tops.

In that the first subtle settlers would be interfaced into this giant woodland then it is exceptionally likely that they’d have a lot of subtle ‘facilitators/monitors’ associated with all of the different aspects of the forest (which is mostly oak) as well as all environments and habitats/sub habitats associated with this forest canopy!!!

In that I’ve already pointed out on the previous page the being interfaced to an ‘isolated’ tree possibility, AND in that only recently has science actually become aware of the networks of tree roots and fungi species combinations providing a network connecting both the trees and the surrounding land/topsoil/biome it’s perhaps possible that some of the upper subtle colonisation facilitators would eventually think of interfacing to a well established tree AND use its root system and the surrounding biome to allow them to have a direct physical environment sensory awareness/presence over a very large area of forest. This would allow them to become aware of and to track all none interfaced animals and particularly any that were potential threats (hawks/eagles/owls/wolves etc) so they’d be able to give some pre-warning of these threats allowing them to make their interfaced people ‘magically’ aware of potential threats to themselves!!!!

If you do a search for “myths related to oaks, oak trees and forests” you get a lot of interesting information related to oaks specifically. For example, all of the major cultures of Europe held the oak tree in very high regard, in fact to many of the major early tribes the oak was the most venerated of trees, with the oak tree being sacred to Dagda, Zeus, Perun, Jupiter as well as Thor, although the Greek god Zeus and his wife, Hera, were known as the oak god and the oak goddess. Interestingly, many of these oak associated Gods are also described as having dominion/control over thunder, lightning and rain too!!!
The Gods (In or from the Sky/above) are then Described as Becoming the First Kings

In early myths/legends, the first ancient kings are described as actually presenting themselves as the (maybe now fully incarnated into flesh) physical personifications of these Gods, as apparently they are described as wearing crowns of oak leaves and are doing this very specifically to symbolise themselves as being the oak god they are now each representing as a king on Earth. There are also records that those loyal and or are successful in service to the king/the kingdom were also presented with crowns of oak leaves too.

In this respect the first subtle settlers that were interfaced into this giant mixed woodland would very, very, very likely have a lot of subtle ‘facilitators/monitors’ associated with all of the different aspects of the forest as well as all environments and habitats/sub habitats associated with these, such that they’d have subtle experts/facilitators on all the different habitat/environment areas such as streams and rivers as well as ponds and lakes . . . although you’d also have to have as experts/facilitators of the coastal areas, beaches and the sea too . . . you’d also have to have experts on all of the different plant and herb types as well as of all of the different animal species!!!!

Based on the above, you’d have subtle experts on plants and particularly herbs specific to different habitats, you’d have others whom are the experts on different animal species, you’d also very, very likely have specific subtle beings as ‘guardians/protectors’ who’d be ‘in the sky’ and monitoring and or over looking/facilitating the early physical settlers too . . .
Sky & Heaven Deities & Beliefs & the Above Location & Descriptions of Eternal Heaven Too!!!!

Many early cultures have a sky and or a heaven deity or deities. Despite that some have quite a few, there is often one specific deity that reigns over the others or is at least considered the most powerful. Sky deities can be masculine or feminine, for example Isis, Astarte, Ishtar, and Inanna whom often holding the title of the “Queen of Heaven”, although the same name was often applied to the Virgin Mary, along with various other features and attributes of ancient pagan goddesses.

A variety of religions describe heaven as being populated by angels, demons, Gods and goddesses, and/or heroes (in Greek mythology for example). Heaven is generally construed as a place of happiness, sometimes eternal happiness, however the consistent belief of most is that one enters heaven at the moment of death (which would equate to the time the ethereal spirit/soul form would be disengaged from the physical interfacing).

You might have noticed that I’ve highlighted the ‘eternal‘ word in the paragraph above!!!

Let me give you the definition of ‘ETERNAL’:

without beginning or end; lasting forever, always existing.

Now, just in case you don’t make the connection yourself then for a living form to be eternal would directly equate to that form being ‘immortal’!!!! Strangely despite the meaning of eternal being substantially similar/equivalent to immortal it doesn’t appear in either synonyms nor related words of immortal (nor vice versa)!!!

In early religions Heaven was described as a place far above the Earth in a “dark area/place” and more specifically it was considered a place where there were no stars. In other words it was considered a place much, much higher than and beyond the stars, such that you could no longer see them.

In other words these descriptions by and large describe a place that is conceptually above as well as separate from the easily observed physical Universe.

Departed souls (i.e. de-interfaced from a now dead physical body ‘souls’) are considered to undergo a literal journey to reach Heaven, in some cases this journey may involve hazards including the presence of entities attempting to prevent them/you from reaching Heaven. Strangely this directly implies impediments to you conceptually returning to the subtle reality/environment which is your natural originating place as it’s where your inert subtle body is lying somewhere while it’s interfaced to yourself.

In medieval times it was apparently popular to view ‘Heaven’ as a physical place above the clouds and that God and the Angels (let’s translate these terms as relating to the primary leader and the leaders most trusted/competent/knowledgeable advisors/facilitators of that culture) all of whom are considered to be above while also watching from above over ‘physical’ man.
The Eternal in the Subtle Strata Heaven & Ancient ‘Deities’ As Knowledgeable/Competent Subtle Forms Possibilities

Interestingly, about 2 and a half decades ago now, I directly, perceptually accessed what I later described as the subtle strata which I also conceptually viewed as ‘higher’ because it didn’t present anything dense, solid or fixed, i.e. there were no identifiable physical phenomenon or structures, everything was ‘energetic’, meaning that it was composed of just frequencies and resonances. In some ways, the subtle strata environment is somewhat equivalent to energetic plasma i.e. all phenomena within this strata are resonance/frequency based such that everything (unlike the physical) is always ‘obviously’ moving/in motion including the subtle life forms found there.

I became aware of the above because I was spending consistent time (as in up to 6 hours at a time most days) absolutely holding an unwavering passive intention on various internal physical body sensations, feelings in efforts to become completely aware of the origins of various (now completely resolved) debilitating issues (massive from before birth through early childhood trauma that resulted in a chronic bad stammer/speech block).

It was in doing this that I eventually become aware of the subtle/soul/spirit form of myself existing/present elsewhere.

In other words the causes/origins of the supposed physical, emotional ‘trauma’ issues I was trying to get to the origins of, in concerted efforts to understand and resolve these weren’t actually held within my easily observed physical body BUT were located within the body form that actually animates the human avatar vehicle, hence then in a conceptual sense, be aware that every time you drive your car, this is directly equivalent to what the ‘ACTUAL REAL YOU’ is doing right now with respect to the human vehicle/body you are using to read what is written here. I.e. you are not this human body, you are just the driver of it!!!!

So, we here/now find ourselves (at least in sense/perception/awareness terms) within a specific multiverse strata that in relative ‘vibration and frequency’ terms (at least compared to the strata where our/your subtle body is present now) is, very, very dense and slow, which coincidentally, also allows the base matter/particles of this specific multiverse strata to be attracted to each other, such that over long spans of time they congregate and coagulate, eventually resulting in stable physical universe macro phenomena such as suns, planets and moons . . .
Early Physical Strata Explorers Will Have to Adapt to having a Permanent/Continuous Day & Night Cycle

In that the subtle environment doesn’t present anything equivalent to a rotating planet going around the sun type of experiences then subtle forms won’t experience and hence then won’t be adapted to anything equivalent to a repeating for ever and ever LIGHT DAY TIME, DARK NIGHT TIME CYCLE somewhat then strongly indicating that the subtle population are unlikely to easily or automatically adapt to having a repeating forever and ever day and night cycle. Also, if they were initially interfaced to humans they’d also likely find the dark/cannot see ‘night’ cycle quite scary/difficult to cope with, particularly as in the ancient past, they’ve no light bulbs, no torches or candles either, all of which is yet another reason as to why it is seriously unlikely that they’d interfaced to a none night adapted human form rather than say a cat or an owl!!!!

In it being highly predictable that the earlier interfaced subtle beings would have trouble coping/adapting to more or less 8 hours or so of dark night time during the early trial and error interfacing efforts then they’d also likely try and figure out means to make a fire pretty quickly BUT they are also very likely to setup overhead, high in the sky night watchmen type Gods too . . .

Again an internet search makes me immediately aware that we have plenty of Night Deities & Night Gods, and again, many cultures (14) had these, including: Arabian, Aztec, Canaanite, Egyptian, Etruscan, Greek, Hindu, Iranic, Lithuanian, Māori, Norse, Polynesian, Roman & Slavic. Here are some descriptions of the Night Deities & Gods from a couple of these cultures . . .
Aztec Deities of Night Phenomenon

    Lords of the Night, group of nine gods, each of whom ruled over a particular night
    Itzpapalotl, fearsome skeletal goddess of the stars
    Metztli, god or goddess of the moon, night and farmers
    Tezcatlipoca, god of the night sky, the night winds, hurricanes, the north, the earth, obsidian, enmity, discord, rulership, divination, temptation, jaguars, sorcery, beauty, war and strife
    Tzitzimimeh, skeletal goddesses of the stars
    Yohaulticetl, lunar goddess known as the “Lady of the Night”

Some Greek Night Deities

    Achlys, primordial goddess of the clouding of eyes after death, the eternal night, and poison
    Artemis, goddess of the hunt who was commonly associated with the moon
    Asteria, goddess of nocturnal oracles and the stars
    Erebus, primordial god of darkness
    Hades, god of the underworld, whose domain included night and darkness.
    Hecate, goddess of witchcraft who was commonly associated with the moon
    Hypnos, god of sleep
    Nyx, primordial goddess of night
    Selene, goddess of the moon
    Thanatos, personification of death, twin brother of Hypnos and son of Nyx and Erebus

Let me point out some of the obvious subtle to physical incompatibilities/problems that at least some of the above Gods/Goddesses are specifically focused on with respect to the differences between the subtle form and its normal functioning and habits compared to pretty much any animal form it would be interfaced to which ‘coincidentally’ would have to be monitored and or be addressed and or involve adjustments and or direct interventions!!!!
The Immortal Interfaced to a SHORT Life Span Avatar Vehicle Dying at Night Problem!!!!

In reading about ‘Achlys, Primordial Goddess of the Clouding of Eyes After Death, the Eternal Night, & Poison’, above, then it seems to me that this Goddess is representing one of the physical population’s overseeing subtle forms that is specifically dealing with the de interfacing of the subtle form specifically from a recently dead avatar form that ‘maybe’ specifically dies during the night.

Although it’s also entirely possible that because the death of the animal form that you are interfaced would mean that you’d no longer receive signals from its senses i.e. such that you’d effectively then be IN THE DARK in eyesight/vision as well as other sense terms could then be accurately described as the interfaced subtle form experiencing an ‘Eternal Night’ i.e. it would receive zero physical sensory input!!!

This state would likely be quite scary and maybe also be traumatizing to the subtle form still interfaced to a now pegged out/dead animal, hence then you’d have a ‘God’ whose job would be to monitor the state of each interfaced animal form specifically for signs of death, so as to de-interface the subtle form as quickly as possible after the death of the vehicle avatar!!!!
The Subtle Form Interfaced to a Physical Animal Incompatible Sleep Duration Problem

In reading of ‘Hypnos, God of Sleep‘ in the above list, this reminded me that subtle beings only sleep about 10% of the time rather than about 30% of the time (relative to being awake) for physical animals such that the subtle forms will perhaps need to be adjusted/adapted with respect to finding themselves being interfaced to an animal form (any of them really) that in most cases would absolutely need to sleep a lot longer than they themselves are used to!!!!

However, after writing the above and thinking about this angle for a while then it seems to me that during the phase that the physical animal/avatar is asleep it would be possible for technologically competent cultures (via the interfacing) to divert the focus of consciousness/awareness away from the physical animal form perhaps to a VR of a subtle environment equivalent space where they could meet and or interact in equivalent ways to how they would have interacted in the subtle itself i.e. as ‘in the sky/flying/interacting’ subtle beings!!!
The Interfaced Subtle Leaders & Habitat Experts of Many Settlements Sharing of Knowledge Problem

It seems to me exceptionally likely that leaders, as well as many of the incarnated population leaders, facilitators and various ‘physical’ experts whom were then part of separate physical settlements would very likely have this type of facility specifically because it would allow all of those that were part of perhaps physically isolated settlements to meet up during the long dark/sleeping phase to discuss ‘whatever’ about the progress of the colony and more so to identify and or find ways to resolve any problems any of the individual settlements were having as well as perhaps helpful to resolve conflicts or potential that may arise between different cultures colonisation efforts.

In a sense those that were part of any the above ‘meet in a VR’ groups in the distant past would perhaps be those that ‘now’ experience lucid/conscious dreaming and or astral travelling. During which ‘people’ in these states often meet up with others and interact too!!!! In fact it seems very likely to me that ‘Asteria, Goddess of Nocturnal Oracles and The Stars’ could be the interfaced subtle form that was the facilitator/director of these types of ‘flying in the sky’ meetings/discussions trying to address problems or get advice based on others’ experiences . . . after all they are all interfaced into an exceptionally alien environment which is not only exceptionally different compared to their own, whilst also continually involving dangerous factors that are utterly alien to themselves such as predator <> prey scenarios, such as having to keep your avatar fed as well as watered as well as making sure you don’t have your avatar shit near any of your food or water sources etc . . . . either!!!!

Oracle: A priest or priestess acting as a medium through whom advice or prophecy was sought from the Gods in classical antiquity.

In this respect, both Asteria, Goddess of Nocturnal Oracles and the Stars as well as Selene, Goddess of the Moon, make sense to me as the interfaced subtle forms would very likely be guided by subtle facilitators/helpers (aka the ‘Gods’) to use the moon and the stars to both orientate themselves as well as to navigate and particularly during the night!!!
Early Physical World Pioneers Will Also Have to Be ‘Facilitated’ To Cope With Changing Seasons

The subtle environment in not being physical in the slightest never mind presenting planets won’t then ever present anything approximating ‘seasons’ i.e. fixed/regular periods/phases where all manner of things are consistently different and or are changing/in the process of changing . . . if you think about the physical seasons then they often determine cycles of life/growth/bounty and harvests as well as phases associated with a lack of many different types of food as well as of phases associated with death.

Also, for many animal species, there are seasonal phases related to fertility/propagation as well as then pregnancy and giving birth and also ‘death’. In other words it wouldn’t be long before those investigating earth world realise that the factor that would have the greatest detrimental effect on your interfaced population in terms of ‘survival’ with respect to the prevalence of food would be the seasons.

In that the seasons would mean feast and famine times and hence then be critical with respect to incarnating a significant number of people, at least more people than was natural or able to be supported by the natural/normal animal and or plant food supplies during any particular season . . . in that seasons would likely be the most detrimental, negatively impacting factor to those that were attempting to have a permanently interfaced population there would have to be subtle forms researching and also facilitating/guiding these already interfaced whom were part of the earlier efforts to understand these factors . . . in other words you can predict that there will be entire subtle teams dedicated to very closely monitor the early ‘permanently’ incarnated settlers as part of advising as well as helping them such that you’d perhaps expect different ‘in the sky’ support teams working to facilitate/advise them with respect to each of the seasons . . .

Interestingly we have a whole host of deities and personifications associated specifically with the different seasons.
List of Gods of the Winter Season

Coincidentally, here is the list of the different culture’s ‘Gods’ that in the past were associated with the season of ‘winter’, which coincidentally, seems to have significantly more Gods associated with it compared to any other season!!!!

    Beira, Queen of Winter, also Cailleach Bheur, a personification or deity of winter in Gaelic mythology
    Boreas (Βορέας, Boréas; also Βορρᾶς, Borrhás) was the Greek god of the cold north wind and the bringer of winter. His name meant “North Wind” or “Devouring One”. His name gives rise to the adjective “boreal”.
    Ded Moroz (literally “Grandfather Frost”), a Russian substitute of Santa Claus
    Father Winter – Albanian mythology[citation needed]
    Great Winter God (冬大神), of Ba Jia Jiang (The Eight Generals), originated from the Chinese folk beliefs and myths
    Hiems, the Roman personification of winter.
    Hine-Takurua Personification of the winter in Māori mythology and one Tamanuiterā, the sun god’s two wives
    Itztlacoliuhqui, deified personification of winter-as-death in Aztecan mythology
    Jack Frost
    Kheimon, from Greek kheima, a hora of winter, early ancient Greece
    Khione ((from χιών – chiōn, “snow”) is the daughter of Boreas and Greek goddess of snow
    Morozko, from a Russian fairy tale, translated as Father Frost
    Nane Sarma, Grandma Frost, Iranian folklore.
    Old Man Winter, personification of winter.
    Skaði (sometimes anglicized as Skadi, Skade, or Skathi) is a jötunn and goddess associated with bowhunting, skiing, winter, and mountains in Norse mythology
    Shakok the god of winter the North Mountain in Native American mythology
    Three Friends of Winter in Chinese art, the plum, bamboo and pine.

Spring time, (maybe the time of giving birth for many animal forms), has the next highest number of ‘Gods/Goddesses’ associated with it, followed by summer and then by autumn!!!
Easily Deduced Consequences of one Single Species Becoming Aware of a World Presenting Gazillions of Species/Life forms!!!!

It’s perhaps very conceptually important that you keep in mind that there is only ONE SINGLE LIFE FORM in the subtle environment.

In other words there are no other life forms other than the subtle beings/forms within the subtle environment. In this respect, in that the surface of the earth is literally teeming with an unbelievable variety of life then in ‘WOW/F***ING WOW’ terms it’s likely equivalent to a moth’s reaction to a bright light in terms of AMAZING/ASTOUNDING WONDERMENT!!!!

‘AND’ there are also very, very, many different types of physical life too . . . all intermixed and interacting . . . it’s hard to imagine their reaction to all of this beyond it seeming to be an unbelievable amazing wonder!!!!!

In that all of your subtle population will be interfaced to the developing fetus likely sometime before it’s going to be born AND that the birth of a now interfaced aka ‘intelligent’ form is in a foundation/base sense not only critical to your setting up an ‘earth’ civilisation plan BUT is also the most technically challenging then it’s very likely you’ll have one or more high up ‘in the sky’ subtle monitors/facilitators aka ‘Gods and or Goddesses’ overseeing this!!!!

In that the subtle forms are androgynous and hence then divide asexually to produce in most cases a twin of themselves AND in that in their own entire environment only hosts one life form (coincidentally THEMSELVES) then won’t those accessing and remotely viewing the earth environment be having their whole/entire conceptual viewpoint with respect to life, different life forms as well as ways of propagating, giving birth and or having offspring completely blown apart!!!!

In that the interfacing to a physical form would be their most technically difficult task AND would then be seriously focused on then I was expecting to find a lot of Gods related specific to the birth of an animal form . . . however, what I found wasn’t a lot of Gods and or Goddesses of ‘Birth’ BUT a whole host of Gods and Goddesses of FERTILITY . . . which to myself, didn’t make sense until I figured out the above.

I.e. you have single species population which coincidentally has absolutely no experience of ‘sexual’ reproduction whom also live in a energetic/resonance/frequency based environment that doesn’t in the slightest present anything equivalent to planetary seasons suddenly being confronted with a world teeming with many many completely different varieties of life forms never mind gazillions of individual species such that their the department of species/life forms AND all processes and aspects of all of the different types of life forms would ALL ON ITS OWN BE ‘MASSIVE’ . . . i.e. in this respect, ‘fertility’ isn’t actually really about ‘FERTILITY’ it’s actually about all factors related to the unbelievable . . .
>> ABUNDANCE OF LIFE <<

A single isolated species that has an entire reality to itself i.e. it is the ONLY SPECIES/LIFE FORM WITHIN ITS ENTIRE REALITY, suddenly gets access to a completely different parallel reality/environment that is teeming with literally gazillions of COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LIFE FORMS, ALSO OF MANY, MANY DIFFERENT TYPES all of which are also reproduce BUT often in many different ways, including ways that don’t involve the simple binary division/splitting into two of an organism!!!!

Hence then the definition of ‘fertile/fertility’ is a generic term for ALL OF LIFE as well as of ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS/MEANS OF REPRODUCING . . . MOST OF WHICH WOULD BE COMPLETELY ALIEN TO THE RESEARCHING SUBTLE FORMS . . .

Fertile (adj.): mid-15c., “bearing or producing abundantly,” from Middle French fertil (15c.) and directly from Latin fertilis “bearing in abundance, fruitful, productive,” from ferre “to bear,” from PIE root *bher- (1) “to carry,” also “to bear children.”

Hence then we have lots and lots of:
Gods & Goddesses of Fertility, Inclusive of Pregnancy & Birth

There are 33 Cultures presenting approximately 200 different deities related to fertility.

So, below are some examples of Gods & Goddesses of Fertility, Inclusive of Pregnancy & Birth just from the Greek and the Japanese cultures.
Greek Culture Fertility Deities

    Aphaea: Local goddess associated with fertility and the agricultural cycle
    Demeter: Goddess of the harvest, agriculture, fertility and sacred law
    Dionysus: God of wine, grapes, and festivity, associated with fertility, particularly that of the vine and males
    Hera: Goddess of the air, marriage, women, women’s fertility, childbirth, heirs, kings and empires
    Ilithyia (also called Eileithyia): Goddess of childbirth and midwifery, likely of Minoan or earlier origin.
    Pan: God of shepherds, flocks, mountain wilds, and rustic music; associated with fertility, particularly that of animals
    Phanes: primeval deity of procreation and the generation of new life
    Priapus: rustic god of fertility, protection of livestock, fruit plants, gardens, and male genitalia
    Tychon: A daemon imagined as a boy
    Persephone: Goddess of spring, Greek god of fertility

In checking out other cultures I’m also presenting the Japanese list here because their list is specifically inclusive of a ‘Deity of ambiguous gender’. Now in that ‘ambiguous’ is to be very honest a weird descriptor I checked the main wikipedia page, which was actually way, way less ‘ambiguous’ in that it uses the term androgynous i.e. it implies neither directly male or female but something that is fluid and hence then is more able to either one or the other . . . which is how subtle forms are ‘psychologically’!!!!
Japanese Culture Fertility Deities

    Kichijōten, goddess of happiness, fertility, and beauty
    Kuebiko, god of agriculture and knowledge
    Inari Ōkami, deity of fertility, rice, agriculture, foxes, and industry; this deity is of ambiguous gender and may be portrayed as male, female, or ambiguous
    Shinda, fertility god of the Ainu people

However, on becoming aware of the sheer scale of involvement of the Roman culture’s fertility Gods efforts whom seem to have been involved in every minute aspect of human reproduction, pregnancy, child bearing, childbirth as well as both baby and toddler and young child rearing efforts then these Roman Gods are listed/described too!!!!
The No Sexual Reproduction/No Newly Born Form, Self Dividing Twin Being Interfaced to a Handicapped Baby, then a Disabled Toddler Problem!!!!

What other Goddesses and Gods would you expect to have because the population has forever and ever and ever propagated by dividing itself such that the twins that result are then endowed with the history and hence then the memories and experiences of its parent/twin?

In other words, subtle forms that propagate by dividing themselves automatically then have the experience of their ‘split/parent’. As such they don’t then have any experience equivalent of being a newly born baby, nor do the newly divided subtle forms then have any experience being a toddler, nor a young child nor then the experience of being a teenager nor will they experience going through adolescence or puberty either!!!!

Now, just Imagine them having a physical newly human birth experience, which is going to have them perhaps being interfaced to a fetus in a womb for a time which after being born is then (at least for the human animal species) it is then going to find itself experiencing being a helpless baby for quite a long time too. It’s then going to spend time as a toddler and then more time as a very young child, after which it’ll reach puberty and become a teenager before then becoming an adult . . . all of which will be something of a mystery never mind perhaps considered bizarre and or super weird to a self dividing form that then becomes a duplicate of an identical twin.

So, with respect to all of the above, then when I first came across the God/Goddess of Childhood it took me a while (after an initial ‘WTF’ reaction) for me to figure out why these god ‘minders/facilitators’ would be necessary!!!!

Seriously, if we are a product of evolution and are then just nothing more than an animal form that naturally via instinct pretty much automatically propagates, gives birth, raises its young then WhyTF did we have ‘rather a lot’ of Gods all seemingly completely pre-occupied with all stages of human reproduction, including being sexual, being pregnant, giving birth, being a helpless baby and then going though childhood and VERY SPECIFICALLY, ALL OF THE ASPECTS OF ‘BEING BORN & GROWING UP’ THAT WOULD BE A COMPLETE MYSTERY TO OUR SELF DIVIDING SUBTLE FORMS!!!!

Hence below I’m giving a List of Roman marriage, birth and childhood deities all obsessed with some minute aspect of human reproduction and propagation!!!!
Roman Gods & Deities Apparently Ultra Obsessed with Sex, Conjugation & Getting Pregnant

The Gods of the marriage bed (di coniugales) are also Gods of conception. Juno, one of the three deities of the Capitoline Triad, presides over union and marriage as well, and some of the minor deities invoked for success in conceiving and delivering a child may have been functional aspects of her powers.

There are about 12 of these, here are few just to give you some examples of, to be honest all of the angles of ‘help’ the Gods were responsible for with respect to specifically helping subtle forms navigate absolutely all aspects of male and female animal form interactions, sexuality, courtship, marriage as well as sexual intercourse and even conception!!!!

    Jugatinus is a conjugal god, from iugare, “to join, yoke, marry.”
    Cinxia functions within the belt (cingulum) that the bride wears to symbolize that her husband is “belted and bound” (cinctus vinctusque) to her.[15] It was tied with the knot of Hercules, intended to be intricate and difficult to untie.
    Subigus is the god (deus) who causes the bride to give in to her husband in sexual intercourse.
    Prema is the insistent sex act, from the verb primo, primere, to press upon.
    Inuus (“Entry”), the phallic god Mutunus Tutunus, and Pertunda enable sexual penetration.
    Consivius is the god of propagation and insemination, from con-serere, “to sow.”
    Liber Pater (“Father Liber”) empowers the man to release his semen, while Libera does the same for the woman, who was regarded as also contributing semina, “seed.”
    Mena or Dea Mena with Juno assured menstrual flow, which is redirected to feed the developing child.
    Fluonia or Fluvionia, from fluo, fluere, “to flow,” is a form of Juno who retains the nourishing blood within the womb. Women attended to the cult of Juno Fluonia “because she held back the flow of blood (i.e., menstruation) in the act of conception.”
    Sentinus or Sentia gives sentience or the powers of sense perception (sensus). Augustine calls him the sensificator, “creator of sentience.”

Seriously, just read the above list a few times, then ask yourself WHAT THE FU** HAPPENED TO THE GRADUAL EVOLUTION OF ANIMALS THAT WOULD HAVE THEM DOING EVERYTHING AUTOMATICALLY SUPPOSEDLY BY INSTINCT SUCH THAT WHYTF WOULD THEY HAVE GODS SEEMINGLY INVOLVED IN EVERY ASPECT OF MALE & FEMALE RELATIONS!!!!

What a quaint idea it is that some actually imagine that we are nothing more than naturally evolved ‘animals’ which if true then they wouldn’t ever need to have their penis guided during intercourse by a God then would they!?!?!?

WhyTF would you have ‘Gods’ whom apparently have to be unbelievably knowledgeable about all human courtship, mating, intercourse and propagation factors when all of what they are obsessed with would for any animal be NATURAL BY INSTINCT!!!!
More Roman Gods & Deities Seemingly Ultra Obsessed with both Pregnancy & Giving Birth/Birthing

The primary deity presiding over the delivery was Juno Lucina, who may in fact be a form of Diana. Those invoking her aid let their hair down and loosened their clothing as a form of reverse binding ritual intended to facilitate labour. Soranus advised women about to give birth to unbind their hair and loosen clothing to promote relaxation, not for any magical effect.

There are then about 11 sub pregnancy/giving birth areas with one or more ‘deities’ facilitating each of these!!!!

    Egeria, the nymph, received sacrifices from pregnant women in order to bring out (egerere) the baby.
    Postverta and Prosa avert breech birth.
    Diespiter (Jupiter) brings the baby toward the daylight.
    Lucina introduces the baby to the light (lux, lucis).
    Vagitanus or Vaticanus opens the newborn’s mouth for its first cry.
    Levana lifts the baby, who was ceremonially placed on the ground after birth in symbolic contact with Mother Earth. In antiquity, kneeling or squatting was a more common birthing position than it is in modern times; see di nixi. The midwife then cut the umbilical cord and presented the newborn to the mother, a scene sometimes depicted on sarcophagi. A grandmother or maternal aunt next cradled the infant in her arms; with a finger covered in lustral saliva, she massaged the baby’s forehead and lips, a gesture meant to ward off the evil eye.
    Statina (also Statilina, Statinus or Statilinus) gives the baby fitness or “straightness,” and the father held it up to acknowledge his responsibility to raise it. Unwanted children might be abandoned at the Temple of Pietas or the Columna Lactaria. Newborns with serious birth defects might be drowned or smothered.
    Lucina as a title of the birth goddess is usually seen as a metaphor for bringing the newborn into the light (lux, lucis). Luces, plural (“lights”), can mean “periods of light, daylight hours, days.” Diespiter, “Father of Day,” is thus her masculine counterpart; if his name is taken as a doublet for Jupiter, then Juno Lucina and Diespiter can be understood as a male-female complement. Diespiter, however, is also identified in Latin literature with the ruler of the underworld, Dis pater. The functions of “chthonic” deities such as Dis (or Pluto) and his consort Proserpina are not confined to death; they are often concerned with agricultural fertility and the giving of nourishment for life, since plants for food grow from seeds hidden in the ground. In the mystery religions, the divine couple preside over the soul’s “birth” or rebirth in the afterlife. The shadowy goddess Mana Genita was likewise concerned with both birth and mortality, particularly of infants, as was Hecate.
    In contrast to the vast majority of deities, both birth goddesses and underworld deities received sacrifices at night. Ancient writers conventionally situate labour and birth at night; it may be that night is thought of as the darkness of the womb, from which the newborn emerges into the (day)light.
    The cyclical place of the goddess Candelifera, “She who bears the candle,” is uncertain. It is sometimes thought that she provides an artificial light for labour that occurs at night. A long labour was considered likely for first-time mothers, so at least a part of the birthing process would occur at night. According to Plutarch, light symbolizes birth, but the candle may have been thought of as less a symbol than an actual kindling of life, or a magic equivalent to the life of the infant. Candelifera may also be the nursery light kept burning against spirits of darkness that would threaten the infant in the coming week. Even in the Christian era, lamps were lit in nurseries to illuminate sacred images and drive away child-snatching demons such as the Gello.

Yet More Roman Gods & Deities Now Ultra Obsessed with Neonatal/New Born Baby Care!!!!

    Once the child came into the light, a number of rituals were enacted over the course of the following week. An offerings table received congratulatory sacrifices from the mother’s female friends. Three deities—Intercidona, Pilumnus, and Deverra—were invoked to drive away Silvanus, the wild woodland god of trees: three men secured the household every night by striking the threshold (limen; see liminality) with an axe and then a pestle, followed by sweeping it.
    In the atrium of the house, a bed was made up for Juno, and a table set for Hercules. In the Hellenized mythological tradition, Juno tried to prevent the birth of Hercules, as it resulted from Jupiter’s infidelity. Ovid has Lucina crossing her knees and fingers to bind the labour. Etruscan religion, however, emphasized the role that Juno (as Uni) played in endowing Hercle with his divine nature through the drinking of her breast milk.
        Intercidona provides the axe without which trees cannot be cut (intercidere).
        Pilumnus or Picumnus grants the pestle necessary for making flour from grain.
        Deverra gives the broom with which grain was swept up (verrere) (compare Averruncus).
        Juno in her bed represents the nursing mother.
        Hercules represents the child who requires feeding.
        Rumina promotes suckling. This goddess received libations of milk, an uncommon liquid offering among the Romans.
    Nundina presides over the dies lustricus, the purification day when the child was given a name (praenomen). This occurred on the eighth day for girls and the ninth day for boys, a difference Plutarch explains by noting that “it is a fact that the female grows up, and attains maturity and perfection before the male.” Until the umbilical cord fell off, typically on the seventh day, the baby was regarded as “more like a plant than an animal,” as Plutarch expresses it. The ceremony of the dies lustricus was thus postponed until the last tangible connection to the mother’s body was dissolved, and the child was seen “as no longer forming part of the mother, and in this way as possessing an independent existence which justified its receiving a name of its own and therefore a fate of its own.” The day was celebrated with a family feast.
    On the dies lustricus, the Fata Scribunda were invoked. The “Written Fates” probably refers to a ceremonial writing down of the child’s new name, perhaps in a family chronicle. To the Romans, the giving of a name was as important as being born. The receiving of a praenomen inaugurated the child as an individual with its own fate.

Even More Roman Gods & Deities Now Ultra Obsessed with Young Child Development!!!

In well-to-do households, children were cared for by nursemaids (nutrices, singular nutrix, which can mean either a wet nurse who might be a slave or a paid professional of free status, or more generally any nursery maid, who would be a household slave). Mothers with a nursery staff were still expected to supervise the quality of care, education, and emotional wellbeing of children. Ideally, fathers would take an interest even in their infant children; Cato liked to be present when his wife bathed and swaddled their child. Nursemaids might make their own bloodless offerings to deities who protected and fostered the growth of children. Most of the “teaching Gods” are female, perhaps because they themselves were thought of as divine nursemaids. The Gods who encourage speech, however, are male. The ability to speak well was a defining characteristic of the elite citizen. Although women were admired for speaking persuasively, oratory was regarded as a masculine pursuit essential to public life.

    Potina (Potica or Potua) from the noun potio “drink” (Bibesia in some source editions, cf verb bibo, bibere “drink”) enables the child to drink.
    Edusa, from the verb edo, edere, esus, “eat,” also as Edulia, Edula, Educa, Edesia etc., enables the taking of nourishment. The variations of her name may indicate that while her functional focus was narrow, her name had not stabilized; she was mainly a divine force to be invoked ad hoc for a specific purpose.
    Ossipago builds strong bones; probably a title of Juno, from ossa, “bones,” + pango, pangere, “insert, fix, set.” Alternative readings of the text include Ossipagina, Ossilago, Opigena, Ossipanga, Ossipango, and Ossipaga.
    Carna makes strong muscles, and defends the internal organs from witches or strigae.
    Cunina protects the cradle from malevolent magic.
    Cuba helps the child transition from cradle to a bed.
    Paventia or Paventina averts fear (pavor) from the child.
    Peta sees to its “first wants.”
    Agenoria endows the child with a capacity to lead an active life.
    Adeona and Abeona monitor the child’s comings and goings.
    Interduca and Domiduca accompany it leaving the house and coming home again.
    Catius pater, “Father Catius,” is invoked for sharpening the minds of children as they develop intellectually.
    Farinus enables speech.
    Fabulinus prompts the child’s first words.
    Locutius enables it to form sentences.
    Mens (“Mind”) provides it with intelligence.
    Volumnus or Volumna grants the child the will to do good.
    Numeria gives the child the ability to count.
    Camena enables it to sing.
    The Muses give the ability to appreciate the arts, literature, and science.

Can you think of any other phenomenon/circumstances that any upper/in the sky/heavens subtle monitoring forms whose job would be to monitor and then facilitate an incarnated into the physical population would then also warn them about?

Well won’t the next most potentially frightening and or dangerous unknown be bad weather in general and particularly destructive well as exceptionally frightening storms? In which case I’d expect that these will be the next most common although irregular phenomenon that subtle observers will look out for and then magically WARN/ADVISE their incarnated populations about!!!
Gods of Bad/Dangerous Weather, The Rain, Bad Storms, Wind & Thunder & Lightening, Hail & Snow

In other words it is very likely that early physical strata population colonisation efforts would have ‘in the sky’ atmospheric weather phenomenon monitoring systems, which in some cases would perhaps include regular weather forecasts as well as upper advice and in some cases help depending on how bad specific weather conditions/circumstances are ‘predicted’ to be. Hence then it’s not been much of a surprise to myself to find that not only do we seem to be a vast number of so called Gods of various bad weather phenomenon BUT there also seem to be a large number of Gods dedicated to very specific weather types/phenomenon, and this seems to be the case for many different cultures/peoples too.

GREEK-ROMAN Gods of the Weather:

    Zeus/Jupiter god of the sky, rain, lightning and thunder.
    Poseidon/Neptune god of sea storms.
    Iris is the goddess of rainbows.
    Fulgora the goddess of lightning.
    Aeolus is king of the winds.
    Aether god of the air.
    Tempestas is the goddess of storms.

Interestingly the following Gods unlike those above seem to be more ‘advanced’ as they appear to have figured out common associations with respect to different weather conditions and how they would or could detrimentally impact an incarnated into flesh population!!!!

NORSE Gods of the Weather:

    Þórr, is the god of ‘heaven’, thunder and also lightning & rain.
    Óðinn god of the sky and the wind.
    Freyr & Njörðr are both gods of rain, fertility and harvest and seasons.
    Ullr is the god of snow and winter.
    Þorgerðr & Irpa are both goddesses of hail storms.
    Rán is the goddess of sea storms.

A quick check reveals that there are many, many different cultures that all by and large have an equivalent mix of ‘weather’ Gods (depending on the climate of their population’s location), in fact all early cultures seem to have these BUT you’ll get the general idea of how ‘comprehensively’ the forecasts/early warnings are with respect to the different weather types of the two cultures I give above . . .

So, if you as an immortal subtle being, have actually been repeatedly re-incarnated again and again over a very long time span while also actually being someone whom in the very distant past was one of the overseeing/monitoring ‘facilitators’, then is it possible that under certain conditions you’d become aware of your past ‘facilitating’ experiences and perhaps particularly when you find yourself in a similar situation to what you, yourself monitored and or directly facilitated in the distant past!!!!!

Strangely, I’ve 2 web pages explicitly describing myself ‘Personally’ directly ‘interactively’ changing/directing the weather in seriously impossible ways . . . by interacting with what I actually directly named/called a weather God!!!!

    Directly Interacting with a Weather God or Air Sylph, & Dramatically Changing the Weather!!!
    An Example of Interacting, Directing and Changing the Weather at will

Coincidentally for years after this specific incident (which happened in my very late 20’s) I’d occasionally tune in and directly engage with the weather system and or air elemental/weather god form and pre order the weather a few days before I was going to be out walking in nature and more particularly for walks where I’d be with other people AND particularly as part of organised walks to give myself and others the opportunity to encounter/engage with different types of ‘nature’ spirits.

Strangely, these ‘requests’ were always carried out. In other words I always got the weather that I wanted!!!!
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    Clive
    December 24, 2019 @ 2:46 pm

    NEW PAGE: If you’re an expert in ‘observation’ then you’ll maybe notice when you finish reading this page that there is a consistent repeating pattern in that most/the majority of different cultures all each have gods that are all ‘by and large’ doing the same things . . . however, in utter violation of this pattern we seem to have many, many, many, many Roman gods obsessed with every possible angle of ‘Human’ courtship/marriage, then unbelievable micro detail re ‘intercourse’ then female ‘pregnancy’ then ‘giving birth’ then rearing a toddler and then bringing up a young child . . . I’ve also pointed out on this and previous pages that it’s EXCEPTIONALLY UNLIKELY that all cultures would use the same animal form to interface their entire culture too, it is in fact highly likely that they’d interface to many different earth animal types.

    In other words the unbelievable Roman gods detail focused on all angles SPECIFICALLY of the human animal behaviours/characteristics IS JUST FOR THE ROMAN’S . . . in then also checking up on ‘humans’ there are pages making it clear that the human species specifically is seriously considered by many to have been ‘VERY BADLY’ BIOENGINEERED in the past . . . although I’m ‘fairly’ sure that the Greeks used none bioengineered humans before the Romans.

    You can then deduce from the utter lack of similar human focused ‘gods’ for all other cultures (I’ve not found any yet) that the Romans not only used humans BUT they also (actually their subtle gods to be specific) bio-engineered/altered the base human specifically to SPLIT IT INTO SEPARATE MALE & FEMALE GENDERS . . . the androgynous evidence page on this site makes it clear that we’ve many males here presenting anomalous ‘pregnancy’ symptoms indicating that many people are actually not either male or female BUT are hermaphrodite i.e. the majority of people here are simulating someone that had both male and female organs/characteristics, hence then they’d also stand a fair chance of simulating someone that was pregnant and during the simulated phase this happened they’d likely present PREGNANCY SYMPTOMS!!!!.

    So, if you’re inclined, then have a think about these possibilities AND if you can think of or are already aware of any other angles of ‘anomalies’ related to ancient god’s that also don’t add up leave a comment here!!!!

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    Tommy
    December 25, 2019 @ 3:48 am

    I like this you did your homework well. The subtle form turning into a copy of something else. Have you read the Greek mythology origin story Clive? Basically there was only Khaos. Khaos then divided into Erebos Nyx Gaia Tartarus and Eros. Sounds like forms who split from the original form like subtle beings.

    I found your focus on Roman god funny because I always kinda dismissed that as well greek gods light or Greek gods for idiots. I assumed Roman gods were basically a mix and match of Greek Egyptian and probably left over Assyrian/Babylonian. You said you learned a lot because they looked over all the aspects of the child growing up so fair enough.

    What I find weird is I kinda expected you to dig around more in Babylonian/Assyrian mythology because the whole cycle of bullshit forced reincarnation crap kinda started there. You did mention Inanna Ishtar so I’m hoping you will look more into that.

    Your lack of researching Enki/Ninhursag kinda baffled me. They made the first animal form so they must know what was used as first ways of interfacing subtle forms was like. Myths said they made this animal form/meatprison. I also see Enki as the person would be like ow come join my civilization and pull the con.

    Hermes is a little chiwawa compared to Enki. whatever enki is its tricky and won’t speak honestly. It’s hard to sort out fact from myth. What I find hard is you would expect older subtle forms who reincarnated and know more to be benevolent and watch out of the the new ones little ones but they ruthlessy exploited them for their own temporary gains and games.

    Clive I told you a bunch of times go check Babylonian mythology it’s a hunch of mine you might find more about the original interfacing method and the creation of the human animal form.

    I think that if you figured out the blue print and the fuckery that happened afterwards you might unfuck stuff a little faster I might be wrong. I would call out those ancient pricks the subtle ones and the “god forms” like tf did you do tf you guys gonna undo it.

    Your more tactful then me Clive I’m not the type who is gonna be diplomatic a little give and take a little non judgmental I will preach scream whine and curse. Then fold the moment they offer me something better I’m too easy to corrupt. Ahahahahahaha anyway happy hunting and a merry Christmas.

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        Clive
        December 25, 2019 @ 6:16 pm

        Hi Tommy (/everyone read!!!), Hhahha . . . well thanks for the feedback, I wasn’t expecting any quick response given current date/time of year!!!!

        You shouldn’t be surprised as to the specific God’s I’ve focused on, because this page is the third page (so far) of a series trying to give evidence of our very different subtle form/species that is from a very, very different ‘IN THE SKY’ environment being interfaced to a very different physical form to live in a very, very different surface of a physical world environment. . . which I explicitly pointed out at the start of the page above in the second paragraph:

            ” . . . these repeating patterns eventually had me realising that . . . absolutely ‘everything’ that is significantly different IN ANY WAY between the subtle form and any avatar/animal form it may find itself interfaced to as well as of any and all differences between the subtle environment and the physical environment and particularly the day in day out, as well as any LONGER TERM embedded habitual experiences of all subtle forms (whom in most cases will have been around for 10’s of millions of years) are then very likely to cause serious problems with respect to them adapting to being incarnated into what would be an utterly/exceptionally different i.e. completely alien physical environment while also being interfaced to and hence then being ‘represented’ by, an exceptionally, utterly different ‘alien’ animal vehicle/avatar life form which compared to the immortal subtle form is exceptionally short lived never mind that how most physical forms propagate/reproduce (to be quite explicit) is also utterly absolutely/different compared to how subtle forms propagate too!!!!”

        So, in checking out God’s I’ve then basically noticed and then pointed out that a lot of God’s OF VERY SPECIFIC THINGS (whom are actually all subtle beings) have very specific jobs/tasks/roles which are coincidentally all focused on helping/supporting the newly interfaced subtle people/population to cope and or adapt to absolutely everything that is ‘DIFFERENT’ compared to what they will have all personally experienced for likely many millions of years . . .

        . . . ‘AND’ in doing this and in listing/pointing out these god’s specifically it’s then very obvious that lots and lots of gods are all focused on the very same ‘problem’ areas which are also very, very common to the majority of all cultures here too.

        So, here’s something for you to think about Tommy (if you want to help), some interfaced animal forms in the very distant past will have lived in very different ways compared to HOW WE ALL ARE AS HUMANS ‘NOW’ . . . for example, I’ve noticed in the past that archaeologists/historians have pointed out that we’ve had so called humans living in caves close to the top of very high sheer cliffs, while conveniently not explaining why they’d live there nor how they’d climb up or down etc!!! One Native American tribe we’ve now just myths of Thunderbirds actually massive birds, I’m also sure that a South American culture was also some large bird species too . . .

        So, a community that is exclusively of ‘flying’ bird type creatures is likely to present ‘clues’ of what they are . . . with respect to common God’s they don’t have or extra God’s that are common to other cultures!!!

        Another similar angle, is that we’ve also a lot of supposed underground cities that we are told were supposedly populated by ‘humans’ too . . . however, it likely that they’d actually in the distant past be actually populated by badgers, moles, rabbits or Meerkat’s or ????!!!

        In which case, what specific ‘God’s’ would you expect these flying in the air species or the burrowing living underground species cultures to either ‘have’ that would be specific to them OR to not have because being up a cliff or underground they’d not need one of the commoner ‘support’ gods???

        For example I noticed that god’s of the night were missing for some specific cultures, which seemed to me to possibly indicate that those cultures might have used species that lived underground such that in them then having an animal permanently adapted to living in the dark they’d not need a god of the night to hold there hand when it’s dark!!!!

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        Also, the list of Roman pregnancy, giving birth, baby minding, young child god details etc. etc. etc. . . . ALL IN ULTRA FINE DETAIL . . . is actually all very, very specific to the ‘CURRENT’ human animal form type!!!!

        So, the ‘fact’ that other cultures don’t have the same lists as the Roma’s coupled with the fact that there is a lot of evidence/belief that in the distant past that humans we’re engineered/bioengineered means that this bio engineering was very likely done by the Roman ‘Gods’ . . . basically I’m VERY certain that all earth animal forms in the very distant past were all ‘hermaphrodite’ i.e. they absolutely all had both male and female sexual organs i.e. EVERYONE WAS BOTH MALE & FEMALE, this makes sense as it would be the best form for the subtle forms to have to interface to as it would allow them to have both full male/female PERSONA/PERSONALITY EXPRESSION in one body form . . . the Romans split the ‘hermaphrodite’ human and engineered a separate male and female form hence they’d ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE LOADS & LOADS & LOADS OF GOD’s supporting people to get used to them now being in a form that was now either male or female i.e. NOT BOTH . . . In that all none Roman cultures don’t have the same, going on and on and on lists of god’s supporting the half a human either male form or female form only monstrosity, this means that it was ONLY THE Romans that did this!!!!

        Let me point out that if we are simulating copied people that we’re not either male or female BUT we’re both then there would be an unbelievably common as well as VERY OBVIOUS and consistent anomalous experience that would be very, very common to male humans here which is that if what I write above is correct then they would have experienced being pregnant BUT here they cannot ‘naturally’ become pregnant BUT if they are simulating someone that did they’d very likely then actually present some symptoms of being pregnant (despite that they are not).

        In other words the symptoms of the condition called ‘sympathetic pregnancy’ are exactly what you would expect to have presented here ‘IF’ we are all accurately simulating being a hermaphrodite animal form here. Interestingly, studies have shown that this condition is presented in over 20% of the male population in the UK and over 30% of the male population in Australia. Both of these studies only recorded the OBVIOUS pregnancy symptoms and dismissed those that presented just a few or minor symptoms, hence then 20/30% is likely a ‘conservative’ under estimate of the prevalence of this condition.

        The soul-healer.com page going into these weird areas/angles in more detail can be found here: Deducible: Coincidences & Synchronicity’s as Evidence of a Technology Slow Down, of ‘Twin’s’ Living Parallel Lives & of many Humans being ‘Hermaphrodites’

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    Tommy
    December 26, 2019 @ 9:59 am

    Clive mate there is something messing with our communication something that causes the wires to be crossed. I don’t know as much as you do. You were going on about the “Roman deities” did some shenanigans with the human animal form.

    That they did some tinkering with the human animal form. That isn’t the first time that something like that happened with the human animal form. The reason why I keep whinging to you about those Sumerian Akkadian deities is because I think that the shenanigans with bioengineering fuckery started there.

    I remember reading something about the changing of the deities after a war and there was another round of bioengineering shenanigans happening in Egypt.

    There was also some fuckery going on in Atlantis they tried to undo some tinkering but they turned into power hungry twats and fucked everything even more. I do not know which of those happened first that’s up to you to find out ahahahahahaha.

    So recap fuckery in Rome you found but there were more rounds of fuckery before and if they fucked around with human form they prolly also fucked around with the subtle form a bunch of times.

    All the other stuff you wrote made sense you just didn’t go as far back as I told you. Thunderbirds where really weird spiritual creatures they had to do with the Heyoka basically where the thunderbird and the heyoka came from everything was inverted. Go read the legends

    And the whole gods were representing different animal forms I remember Hawaiians had a shark god so there might have a population of subtle beings interfaced to sharks I guess.

    Guess the aboriginals were pretty on the ball also their chief deity was a snake called rainbow snake. Subtle form rainbow cloud? Rainbow snake Pretty clever if you ask me.

    The snake this is why I have been bitching about Ea enki that was his symbol. According to the mythology there is a myth he had a contest with his wife Ninhursag and he made the human animal form this is why I whine. I was scared af just when I was gonna post it my iPad died and I was hoping the comment I wrote wasn’t lost.

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        Clive
        December 26, 2019 @ 4:49 pm

        Ahhh, OK, Tommy I’d not worry about it in fact I’m surprised there hasn’t been more comms ‘sabotages’ recently (given the competence of current shit!!!!).

        The main problem is that the EAAS is an ‘everyone ‘significant’ is now living on a single’ world i.e. they are all now on ‘EARTH/one world’. Where as, the original incarnated physical population is in another MV (the one that originated this/our FU EAAS one) which had the entire populations of all races/cultures spread out throughout 4/5 galaxies space/distance populating many, many different planets/physical colonies . . . so, the Egyptians got so pissed off with shenanigans/shit from other cultures that they packed up and moved to a new multiverse (they figured out how to generate one) ‘and’ they also managed to figure out how to copy/paste there main habited world to the new MV too.

        So, in physical single planet terms now representing many planets populations all being presented on a single world then in a sense ‘symbolically’ each ‘worlds’ population on Earth could be thought of as being represented by an island . . . hence the Atlantis legend here of an island sinking i.e. ‘disappearing’ . . . which is representing the Egyptian’s moving there central ‘home’ world via some intermultiverse scale of some removals/transportation ‘magic’ effort!!!

        So, I’ve two problems when writing one is trying to figure out WTF was actually going on within the original MV while also then trying to figure out how to ‘frame/shrink’ anything going on within the original entire MV that’s now all being badly mangled because it’s being presented on the surface of our single world here!!!!

        . . . ‘AND’ . . . from the above, in a sense I’m trying to figure out what is SPECIFIC TO HERE, i.e. what was/is being DONE HERE within our EAAS that wasn’t done in the original MV, specifically because it’s part of the agenda of ‘here’!!!

        So, based on the last few weeks thinking/figuring out efforts I’m pretty sure that ‘humans’ weren’t used specifically by the Roman’s in the original MV, they were used by some other cultures, ‘and’ the ‘bio-engineering’ to split the dual sexed human into male and female just happened here . . . as part of making things as difficult as possible for as many people as possible here!!!!

        In other words, they likely used the human form here because other ‘TOP’ cultures used the human form (maybe even just for their leaders) to then split it into male and female FOR EVERYONE HERE to make life here as difficult as possible for these leaders/everyone else all being forced/all finding themselves all using a human body when in most cases this wasn’t the physical body animal form they originally used AND even if they did use it, it’s now been engineered to only have half the features i.e. it’s only either male or female here . . . rather than both . . . it’s a way of causing as many problems as possible for the greatest number of people ‘HERE’!!!!

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        Clive
        February 13, 2020 @ 11:22 pm

        Tommy/Melissa??/Update Everyone . . . well, despite definite ‘progress’ (at least for some) ‘some’ are still being contained . . . however I then remembered and started to watch the Dollhouse series as in a sense we’ve been focused on what is constructing and maintain our persona/personality (and accompanying trauma) and the Dollhouse in a sense actually ‘imprints’ people with bits from others ‘persona/personalities’ . . .

        Now, ‘Tommy’ who leaves comments here has had DH shit/imprints applied to himself and Tom (a friend of mine and our best ‘shit’ hacker has too) I was specifically thinking of him/Tom as likely actually being a version of ‘Victor’ of the Dollhouse people (whose a shell shocked soldier) specifically because Tom in exploring past lives was Lord/Admiral Nelson (who lost an eye and got arm shot off in battle) . . . so it wasn’t much of a surprise towards the end of the series when ‘Victor’ is reverted back to his real self he them introduces himself as Tommy/Tom!!!!

        So, Tommy/Melissa and or anyone else that has ‘vibes’ re the Dollhouse do the first focus below a couple of times and then the 2nd one . . . which will likely help speed up current efforts!!!!

        FOCUS TO TARGET DOLLHOUSE ‘WARE/IMPRINTS/ARCHITECTURE’ FOCUS:

         . . . . I connect to any subtle and or physical neural architecture, any persona imprints and or anything similar and or equivalent and or any/all supporting/protecting/maintaining structures and or any data/systems/sub systems designed to and or that would react against/block/negate any efforts to investigate any aspect of the neural architecture/imprinted personas/persona fragments and or anything/everything the architecture and or dollhouse ‘tech/ware’ is dependent on and or anything that is keeping anything/any of this and or the architecture/anyone’s/any combination of peoples architecture and or any persona/persona fragments inaccessible/secure and or immune to any direct and or indirect investigation/investigations and or alteration/reversion efforts . . .

        . . . and ‘best’ focus to help get to any shit still fighting to retain trauma and or debilitating personality/persona aspcets etc after doing the above is:

        1. FOCUS TO TARGET ANYTHING MAINTAINING TRAUMA &/OR BLOCKING/SABOTAGING EFFECTIVE TRAUMA RELEASE EFFORTS

        . . . I connect to any components/combinations of components that have been, are now and or that would in the future contribute to negatively/detrimentally define any external/environmental circumstances and or what people are doing/made to do specifically to negatively/detrimentally impact/shock and or otherwise traumatize and or maintain trauma/block trauma releases and particularly by having myself/anyone repeatedly negatively impacted/disturbed/shocked/traumatized by having memories of shit past circumstance/situations/experiences recycled and or made consciously or unconsciously disturb/distract and or pre-occupy myself and or make me reactive/sensitive to current and any recalled similar past circumstance/situations/experiences/impacts and or use these to generate any imagination/imaginings/pre-occupations relating to these/any combination of these and or anything that has been, is now and or could in the future prevent me from becoming aware of and or of accurately identifying or describing anything of any shit systems/sub system and or there networking factors/activators and or functioning combinations and or anything else IMPORTANT and particularly anything specifically contributing to make it as difficult as possible for me to accurately define/describe and or then directly/target anything/any type of shit including the variety and or means/sophistication of functioning/tactics of any ‘shit’ components and particularly to make it difficult for me/us to effectively hack/tame/bring under control any and all shit versions . . . and particularly any ‘shit’ systems/versions that have been and are now contributing to sabotage/debilitate/get me and or diversify/modify themselves/their ways of functioning and or tactics because of what I am doing now . . . !!!!

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    Megan
    December 27, 2019 @ 8:19 am

    So then are the myths and legends of the ancient gods we know of here in the EAAS all a part of the agenda to make these beings look bad? Is the fact that they are labeled ‘Gods’ (I tried to find it, but I believe that Rose left a comment stating that there were no Gods,) just another one of those FU efforts of the subtle leaders and those who followed and relied on them kind of like the Game of Thrones thing you mentioned in a previous comment?

    I’ve done some research of the ancient deities of Ancient Greek and Roman in the past, and like Tommy has pointed out, most of them were self-absorbed, jealous pricks. The legends of Medusa and Arachne from Ovid’s Metamorphoses come to mind.

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    Megan
    December 28, 2019 @ 5:16 am

    From the book “The Spirit World” by the editors of Time-Life books. Copyright 1992

    Page 14:

    “For some tribes, the powers that control the universe and all its beings take the form of deities. In other cultures, the powers have no defined shape or form but are simply mystic energies.”

    Page 53-54:

    “In the beginning, Indian legend affirms, animals and humans spoke the same language. The animals took care of the humans, bringing them fruit, vegetables, and water to drink. During the winter, when the food was scarce, they even sacrificed their own flesh so that the humans would survive until spring brought new life to the land. Using their innate ability to predict changes in nature, they would inform the humans of coming storms or seasonal shifts in the weather so that the necessary preparations could be made. In time, however, people began to enslave the animals and abuse them…The humans also set animal against animal…Worst still, humans robbed the animals, snatching their winter stores of food. Eventually, the animals tired of the mistreatment and punished the ungrateful humans by going off to live by themselves and refusing to speak the same language. People were left to fend for themselves.
    “Despite the rift that developed between animals and humans, the bond between the two groups remained strong in the context of legend and lore – so strong, in fact, that Native American languages do not even have words to distinguish the concepts human and animal. Early in the 20th century, when an outside asked the Achumawi people of California what their word was for animal, he was told they did not have one. When pressed, they could only offer a phrase meaning “the beings that are world-over, all-living,” a description encompassing humans as well as animals- and even rocks, which the Achumawi also believed were alive. The Achumawi did have a term for people of European descent, however, a word signifying tramps. From the perspective of the Achumawi, the Europeans seemed to be divorced from the natural world and its creatures and thus appeared homeless.”

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    “So close was the bond between humans and animals that many Native American legends told of creatures who formed clans of their own in hidden camps or villages, where they returned to live after they died of natural causes or were killed. Within these villages, the animals removed their fur and feathers and looked and acted like humans. ‘The greatest peril of life lies in the fact that human food consists entirely of souls,’ explained an Iglulik hunter of the Far North in the 1920s. ‘All the creatures that we have to kill and eat, all those that we have to strike down and destroy to make clothes for ourselves, have souls, souls that do not perish with the body’.”

    A lot of Indian creation myths involve water. Is water symbolic of something found in the subtle, like the various energies there itself that the subtle body relied upon for nourishment, or something else?

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    Shalin
    February 14, 2020 @ 1:17 am

    Clive, I dont have the DH effects that Tommy describes but I have had thousands of body invasions since I was 14 years old (DH or real entity?) and I often felt as if something about my persona/behavior changed drastically starting somewhat in university but accelerated after graduating from university around the age of 24-25 and continued into adulthood.

    Did I change because of negative life experiences/traumas/stressors/mental-tensions and/or was it also due DH imprints? I know I am still 100% contained in my SHIT. I’ve been doing the trauma/trt release focus AFTER setting an intention to connect to my original kidnap/torture circumstances but I don’t notice any changes/improvements.

    Perhaps a full understanding of my situation hasn’t yet occurred AND/OR I have the DH imprints AND/OR something ENTIRELY DIFFERENT that has NOT yet been discovered/understood by you/Tom/Matt/Those-Outside?

    When I do the trauma/trt release focuses after setting the intentiion to connect to my original kidnap/torture circumstances I got very brief references to:

    a) electrocution
    b) the christian cross (was I tied to a cross?)
    c) drowning &
    d) being tied up

    I don’t know if I got those insights/ideas BECAUSE of AUTO-SUGGESTION of you telling me that my original form was kidnapped/tortured or whether they are actually relevant to my circumstance?

    I didn’t get any Virtual-Reality related insights this time.

    I also got the following:

    1) reminder of 2 incidences when I was a young kid:

    a) one where I was walking home from school and for some reason I decided to take another route home. As I was walking 2 guys who looked like rockers (this was early 1980s) made an attempt to grab me. I never ran faster in my life. I pressure they were just teasing/messing with me because I must have been 6-7 years old and they could have nabbed me if they actually wanted to.

    b) The second incidence occurred at a friends house where my friend, my little sister and I were behind my friend’s apartment building complex playing. Again, 2 guys who looked like rockers came up to us and they told my sister and my friend to go home and for me to stay as if they wanted to kidnap me. We ran like crazy. Again, they probably were just messing with us as an adult could have easily caught a 6-7 year old kid.

    2) reminder of the 1980s tv show in America/Canada called *Unsolved Mysteries* that showed all sorts of strange unsolved murders/kidnappings/ghostly-hauntings/ETs and other mysteries that were *unsolved*.

    3) reminder of what happened to Leslie Mahaffy, Kristen French and Tammy Homolka, all teenage girls (my age) in St.Catherines/Burlington Ontario about 1 hour from where I lived in Toronto who were kidnapped, raped, tortured & murdered by Paul Bernardo & his wife Karla Homolka. Turned out that Paul Bernardo was also a serial rapist in that part of Toronto where my family lived.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bernardo
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Leslie_Mahaffy
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kristen_French
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Tammy_Homolka

    I don’t know the significance of any of the above as it relates to me and/or my original form’s kidnap/torture circumstances.

    I believe whatever has me LOCKED down is PREVENTING me from becoming aware of anything significant/instrumental that would HELP reveal & release any/all traumas/persona/behavior/beliefs/trts.

    It could be DH imprints and/or what I mentioned earlier – SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT that you guys have not yet discovered/understood.

    I will do the DH focuses NOW as well but maybe its worth having a chat with your mates on the outside &/or Tom/Matt about my situation.

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        Clive
        February 14, 2020 @ 2:08 am

        I’ll have a think Shalon, the only other thing I know is that the capture/torture happened on ‘Deep Space Nine’ which was an all cultures/weird animals species trading station set up by the SNV’s as a cover for spying/mischief and likely then inclusive of abductions of ‘key’ people!!! Now as this is a physical space station everyone will be wearing an animal avatar and I’ve mentioned to you before that I’m suspicious as to the regurgitation?!?!?! type symptoms/effects you experience perhaps being because of the animal species you were?!?! You’d not try and hold down a fish under water would you!!!! Ah, do not some species of animal bring up there stomach contents to rechew/digest again, it’s possibly a very weird species that we don’t have here. Problem is that I’ve not watched very much DS9 so I cannot remember the types of species they had!!!

        Ahh, in the distant past I made up a picture of some film aliens:

        Sifferent Startrek/other films 'animal' type aliens

        Tortoise top right, some reptiles, lions a snake woman . . . on checking snakes (maybe ‘reptiles’ then), owls and a lot of birds regurgitate

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            Megan
            February 14, 2020 @ 3:11 am

            He could possibly be a wolf as well. Taken from this article, https://getpocket.com/explore/item/a-very-old-man-for-a-wolf?utm_source=pocket-newtab

            “Eventually, both parents would return to the hunt, bringing food back in their bellies, which they’d throw up as a steamy stew for the pups to eat—a technique biologists call “regurgitative provisioning.”

            On a side note, I’ve been reading a book written by an Oglala Sioux man, and the way he describes how Midwest Native American’s lived back in the day, they sound like they would be either wolves or coyotes in the way they moved around and hunted. Although at one point, when the author was talking about how they were corralled on reservations and sent to missionary school, it reminded me of wild horses and how they are often corralled and broken by cowboys to behave and be useful.

            I’m positive though that the Karok, Yurok and Hupa tributes of the Northwestern US are bears. I was looking at a few pictures and I could just see a bear in my mind in the way they sat and in they way they fished.

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            Tommy
            February 14, 2020 @ 3:15 am

            Hey Clive sorry not a lot of updates from my side did do a lot the of last and I did a lot of the older focuses the last days.

            I got nothing substantial to share with you guys. I have a mate crashing on the couch but I suspect he’s being used to feed me new/different trauma shit.

            I’m looking like a overweight raccoon with thinning hair. I’m having a gut like a pregnant woman. Same old same old tinnitus voices purple energy field when I close my eyes. That lock jaw you described happened like 2 nights in a row I woke up it snaps then I go back to sleep.

            I do feel a lot of messing around with my spine. Lots of weird stuff happing with my spine it’s like somehow it is tied to others. I brushed up on my knowledge about Tibetan Buddhism. I somehow feel their is more to the symbolism then I’m understanding.

            Also looking into the work of mister jung with the subconscious. I did read the main book of him at my ex but it’s been four years.

            Also read a book about Russian nanai shamanism because their mostly known for healing. What’s weird though is you gotta keep worshiping/feeding those spirits else you get sick again. If you don’t listen to those spirits they kill you. If you don’t pay the shaman so he can get sacrifices they kill the shaman and reverse the healing. At the end of the book this afternoon I got kinda scared I couldn’t place it.

            My mate on my couch will be gone in like 5 hours. So I will do the new focussen then. He’s gone in the mornings usually back in the evening. Then he goes out after dinner again till late.

            Clive couldn’t it have been a vr kidnap/torture? Like eh Altered Carbon. That something along the lines of that happened to shalin.

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    Shalin
    February 14, 2020 @ 3:38 am

    Clive, the symptoms I describe MAY BE a *red herring* in that they could mislead/misdirect you/anyone trying to help. Not a guarantee but it has mislead a lot of people in the alternative medicine space as my symptoms sound very similar to what is already in their diagnosis tool kit and so they arrive at a diagnosis and follow the treatment protocol for that diagnosis BUT are then shocked that I’ve had no improvements and instead experience all sorts of other side effects/aggravations.

    To me the root could be either any one of the following or any combination of these:

    a) Liver/Gallbladder energetic structure has become severely imbalanced (i.e. YANG>>>>YIN) – All of TCM, Ayurveda and Tibetan Medicine identify severe Liver imbalance by inspection of my tongue and pulse. Other organ systems are off too (i.e. Spleen/Kidney) but Liver is the root.

    b) Energetic blockages in abdomen causing counterflow of energy

    It could be #a, #b or both. As such, both #a &/or #b are likely preventing the liver energy from flowing as it normally would and is then STUCK/CONGESTED/BLOCKED.

    Liver is the seat of emotion/stress as they say in TCM/Ayurveda/Tibetan medical system so no surprise that it could be F’d up given all my traumas/extreme-emotions/stress/mental-tension I have had.

    As such, since the liver qi/energy cant flow, it over heats the liver and generates internal wind/gas. As such my entire abdomen is a giant balloon of air but especially bulging out with wind/air on the right side below my right rib.

    Since gas/wind normally rise most of it comes up and as it comes up it takes/carries with it the bile/enzymes/gastric fluids from the stomach into my throat/nose/mouth/lungs. This is an every second of the day/night process – has not stopped since it started in Apri/2015.

    The energy/heat also rushes up to my head making it as if my head is going to explode. Raises my blood pressure as well.

    So it may not be related to the animal form I may have been in my original form during my kidnap/torture circumstance.

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        Clive
        February 14, 2020 @ 4:03 pm

        Actually Shalin, all your symptoms are all related to a symbolic ‘Dragon’ type animal conversion!!!!

        Basically, a Dragon (representing an subtle to physical form interfacing expert), it’s flaming breath is, in a sense symbolically representing the many many subtle interfacing lines between the subtle form and the physical form it’s interfacing to with signals pulsing up and down these (imagine they are red pulses) hence then it’s presented as a dragon having red and ‘fiery’ breath!!!

        In other words, the dragon form is used to ‘represent’ someone with a an extremely sophisticated/automated subtle tech interfacing kit that allows them to easily interface to any animal form, which here has had you converted in a symbolic sense to having the dragon’s ‘hot’ breath/emissions in physical form, which is why none of your symptoms make any sense and why no ‘therapy’ works as it’s all made up!!!

        Unfortunately, the SNV lot don’t like competent subtle people and particularly auto interfacing experts because they then have a lot of experience of the subtle and the physical and of interfacing to likely many different animal forms. I.e. in a reality where there is a massive effort to explain everything in ‘physical/materialistic’ terms these specific people are seen as a threat!!!

        Hence you have all of the tales from medieval times of ‘knights’ specifically on quests to kill off dragons!!!!

        It’s no different today!!!! I’ve noticed that specific animal species that very much seem to me to be ‘representing’ the dragon form such as fox’s, pheasants and maybe even the red squirrels (as they all have symbolic ‘flame’ tails) are all being specifically targeted. For example the first two (the fox and pheasant) are all being regularly shot at killed/culled while pheasant’s specifically have their ‘heather/heath moorland/brush’ habitat regularly set on fire/burnt too . . . while red squirrels in the UK are it seems being regularly attacked by grey squirrels while also being killed off by a virus spreading from the grey squirrel, which the grey form is immune to.

        I’ve done some scans to target these entirely made up ‘dragon’ conversion efforts Shalin!!!!

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    Shalin
    February 14, 2020 @ 8:30 pm

    Clive, thank you for that update and revelation.

    So, shouldn’t have this been a problem in some facet my entire life in this incarnation? Like the red squirrels/fox/pheasant being targeted and often showing signs of symbolic representation of a dragon i.e. their tail.

    All I know is that these same symptoms showed some signs during early 2013 after bouts of stress/worry but went away within 1 month only to re-appear in April/2015 after an extreme bout of series of stress/tension/fear/worry episodes, after which it has been present every nanosecond of the day/night.

    My fiery breath symbolic symptoms appeared in April/2015, should this have been a problem much longer for me? Or is the fact that my fiery persona/behavior/traumas/trts already evidence of this being the problem all along i.e. from the lens of being a *dragon* representation.

    I will let you know in a few days/week if things begin to shift. I hope this is it to get me out of this hell. 🙂

    Appreciate your help. Will circle back with you.

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        Clive
        February 18, 2020 @ 4:19 pm

        UPDATE+FOCUS: I ‘eventually’ figured it out!!!! . . .

        A LEADERS/DIPLOMATS/KEY PEOPLE MIX & MATCH AVATARS SHIT SET: There is a shit set likely specific to all key culture (KP) people i.e. leader/diplomat types. So, Shalin whom is representing someone whom was a ‘trader’ in the original MV, whom would then very likely change animal avatars to show ‘respect’ to the culture/peoples he’s trading with by interfacing to one of that cultures animal body forms to make the trade, however, all leaders, diplomat’s and all others ‘representing’ any culture are also very likely to regularly be using different physical avatars under different circumstances. Hence then I’m pretty sure that there is a mix and match of very different animal avatar body form aspects ‘shit set’ wired into the remaining persona data cloud which is specifically targeting/impacting all KP!!!

        For example, some of ‘Matt’s’ persistent issues are due to ‘shit’ mixing and matching aspects from multiple different avatar/body form combinations (with respect to nature/temperament/physiology/food preferences/digestion and or elimination processes including say sleeping during the day and or hibernating and or breathing under water!!! Etc. Etc . . . ). Hence Matt is made to have to eat certain specific foods i.e. food intake is defined that is related to one avatar/animal form while he’s made to have a mismatched body digestive system (that isn’t correct for the food intake of that species) such that he gets various symptoms of indigestion and also often incompatible elimination/waste process’s factors too i.e. often either constipation or diarrhoea!!!!

        CURRENT/LATEST FOCUS TO USE: So, this is what we are ‘targetting’ now as the Dollhouse shit seems to be under control, at least enough to have attempts made to ‘adjust’ various peoples DH shit/now in progress!!!

        In the mean time can: EVERYONE USE THE FOLLOWING FOCUS TO TARGET THE ‘MIX & MATCH AVATAR SHIT:

        . . . I connect to all physical animal forms, robot forms and any other forms/absolutely anything else I’ve ever been ‘interfaced’ to including any VR avatar/body forms and or any chimera/made from bits or parts from different animal species/avatar forms that my original form (and or earlier splits of this form) spent any time directly or indirectly interfaced to!!! I connect to all tech/networks/systems that have absolutely any details of anything/everything of any physical and or VR avatars and or which are using any of these and or particularly any combination of characteristics and or attributes of any avatar/avatar combinations and or anything else I was interfaced to and or any food/needs requirements and or environmental factors impacting these to directly or indirectly use any of these and or combinations of these in specific ways to detrimentally/negatively impact myself . . . .

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    Megan
    February 14, 2020 @ 10:38 pm

    I did the first part of the focus last night and I started crying, although it didn’t really feel like it hit on anything or triggered a release of any kind. Reading the second part, I see images of people I deal with often in my life and I get this kind of energetic vampire/draining feeling in my solar plexus.

    I did the focus again before going to bed and I got the impression of a tube connecting my solar plexus to my third eye.

    Things here haven’t been traumatic per say, but some things have still been weird. Traveling to a friend’s place this last weekend I was listening to all the political bullshit that has been going on here in the US on the radio and for the most part I don’t get involved. I vote, what little good that does, but in general it is a socially unwritten rule never to talk politics, religion or sex, and most of the time when it is talked about I just agree with the speaker to avoid conflict or confrontation. But this time part of me was like, ‘I’ve had enough. I don’t want to live through this crap again. I don’t want history to repeat itself again.’ Thinking on these thoughts and feelings, I have no intention of becoming politically active (that route feels like a worthless effort) so my thoughts go back to being a healer and I get a lot of resistance with these thoughts. I get impressions of egotism and dominance and competition, of knowing all or knowing better, and being better than others. Of putting others down and disgracing and shaming them for being stupid and worthless and ignorant. My thoughts also strayed to Jesus Christ and how he is the golden child/poster boy from the Christians and healing and enlightenment, and I wonder how what he did and his role here is being used to fuck with those people who honestly wanted to help people and change things for the better (outside from the obvious.)

    But, when I think on all of my wants/desires/intentions/ambitions regarding all of this, my personal reaction to all of this/these problems and frustrations I am having is to simply walk away, not deal with it anymore, to never have to deal with it again (the very same fucking advice every shrink, light worker and well-intending person has ever gave me.) Because I’ve tried fixing it and I have finally fucking had it. I don’t know where to start or what to do, and honestly, unless it is doing what you are doing to fix this Clive, I don’t think anything I do will do any good. Because everything else I have tried, or even just tried to believe in, has fucking failed. And the last thing I want to do is fuck up any efforts you and your teams are doing to fix this.

    I just feel massively blocked from connecting with people or even wanting to help people. Or even wanting to learn anything or do anything really. My situation at work is better, I don’t feel quite as resistant, angry or anxious. Yet I do not feel that gut-deep feeling (I expect) of trust and security that I want. I can’t and shouldn’t trust them at all. In hindsight, I hate myself even more for this because there is nothing else I want in the world than someone I can trust and be vulnerable with.

    My period is late again this month, and I haven’t quite discovered the trigger. I think the human female menstruation cycle is some kind emotional/energetic cleansing for the subtle form, because for quite a while the triggers have usually very personal and emotional issues. I just find it a little fucked up that this process is somehow tied into the human reproductive cycle. Interestingly enough, men do experience ‘PMS-like’ symptoms, called irritable male syndrome. https://www.medicaldaily.com/do-men-have-periods-quarter-men-experience-pms-symptoms-due-daily-hormonal-changes-362462

    Also looking up male menstruation, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_menstruation, the article says that men from primarily tropical countries tend to ‘menstrate’ but this is often due to a parasite they pick up from working in the fields.

    Clive, I also have a couple questions if you don’t mind. How can one tell is they had been kidnapped? I am not so anxious to travel anywhere on my own anymore, there are certain things I am still anxious to do on my own in fear of being attacked or kidnapped or disappearing.

    Another, and this can be for anyone, how does one experience past lives exactly? Re-reading Tom’s comment about the inquisition, “I just had the example of the inquisition representing psychiatry and the benefits assessments, so it’s like different “means” to impact people in the same way, which started at different points in history but can be used to build up and worsen broadly similar trt’s. Also, the people who were put through the original inquisition could then be set up to encounter psychiatry here and or have the benefits assessments, to continue the accumulation of these inquisition-related traumas.” I have been through something similar to this. During my new-age period, my mother had absolutely superstitious about me being a part of a coven or into witchcraft, and even when she has to deal with a pair of witches from her water aerobics class she told me she wanted nothing to do with them. The lightwork I used to see apparently had a past life where she was a part of the movement to persecute and burn witches, and I remember unconsciously believing she was wrong and even tried correcting/arguing with her. Not only that but talking about any of my issues with anyone, hell even just wanting to share my interests and adventures with the public feels like being tied to the stake.

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    Shalin
    February 20, 2020 @ 9:20 pm

    Clive, this is an interesting discovery. I imagine then my problem is that of *interfacing* efforts with a long list of avatars, physical and perhaps also VR avatars and combinations of these.

    I’ve been doing the focus pretty much all day the last 2 days.

    So far, I’m not getting anything solid. The possibilities could be a very large number however.

    I will keep doing focus but here is a brief summary of what popped up during focus.

    -I thought of dolphin like avatar as I was reminded of many dreams I have had of swimming through the ocean/rivers at incredible speeds. I also have an affinity towards the water – as a kid I’d take 3-5 showers a day because I loved the feeling of being in water. I also have had an incredible fear of sharks after I watched the film JAWS as a kid in the 80s. So maybe I was some type of dolphin or other sea creature that could swim very fast or another creature on another incarnation system that also has water.

    -maybe there is another form similar to a dragon that explains all the crazy heat trapped inside of me. Nothing obvious came to mind during the focus.

    -an animal form that has to collect/store food for winter thus making them operate under *scarcity themes*, which could explain my financial loss/poverty issues but that could also be because I was a *trader* in the original MV and likely experienced periods of losing money on trades.

    -an animal form with a high sex drive perhaps to explain my non-stop sexual drive? But where does the HIV/STD fears/worries come from? Maybe as a *Trader* in the original MV, I traveled around doing business with different cultures and part of that I engaged in a lot of sexual activity perhaps also with prostitutes and maybe even caught some STDs.

    -Then I thought of the Bar Scene in Star War 1 (original film) as there are many avatar forms. Couldn’t feel into which of any of these resonated with me though.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDpDhofRoXA

    -Feel like Ive been interfaced to a stationary object like a tree, rock, stone etc- lack of feeling in parts of abdomen and just feeling stuck overall in this incarnation.

    -I dosed off after doing focus once and had a dream of snakes and was very fearful of them so maybe a physical animal afraid of snakes? Possibly even other types of reptiles.

    -Had a brief thought of something like a wolf or bear?

    Forgot to mention that I too have Matt’s issue with digestion. I digestion has been shot to hell and so has my nervous system as indicated by many hair sample tests that study mineral composition. My body doesn’t even produce a large % of the enzymes required for digestion. I feel like a mixed bag of many avatars blended together thus creating a big clusterf#*K in my current physical human body.

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        Clive
        February 24, 2020 @ 2:00 pm

        27th-Update/extended . . . well Shalin/everyone ‘unfortunately’ decoding this mix and match of bit’s from different interfaced avatar types is still ongoing specifically because some people seem to have been interfaced to a lot of different animal forms making the FU mixing and matching of these ‘extensive’!!!!

        LATEST . . . well, very strangely this ‘maybe/seems like’ the last shit set seems mostly focused on locking down Tom (preventing access to trauma/trt’s) as well as all splits of Tom (and on checking Shalin I’m getting that you’re a split/twin of Tom, hence your own extremes) plus it’s doing a decent job of shutting me down as my head is in the worst disengaged/distracted/dysfunctional state ‘ever’!!!!

        So, I’ve been doing the focus below regularly . . .

        BEST FOCUS TO FACILITATE PERSONAL TRAUMA/TRT ‘RELEASES’: The focus immediately below is still the best to use if you’ve anything ‘difficult’ going on because this specifically targets anything limiting/blocking TRT/personal data access/releases:

        . . . I connect to any components/combinations of components that have been, are now and or that would in the future contribute to indexing and or coveting/keeping hidden/obscured and or fire-walling, guarding, locking down and or screening access to my own or anyone else’s trauma and or personal/persona/behaviour and or response data and or current incarnated life culture/society and or status/class/standing data for myself/each individual and or anything that is contributing in the slightest to making up/defining specific angles of and or specific trauma/trt’s and or trt impacts as well as deliberately traumatic/traumatizing ‘trauma/shit effects’ releases and or anything monitoring, predicting, preempting and or then reacting to, blocking/locking, locking down/containing and or otherwise detrimentally interfering with any trauma and or any trt/trt combination releases including using Chinese finger-traps, vicious feedback spirals, loops and or anything which contributes to define a wide range/variety of influences with variable/numerous delivery options and or variable/numerous final influence/influences and or impacts as part of making tracking and or countering/neutralising anything of any of this as difficult as possible . . .

        2nd BEST FOCUS TARGETING MORE VARIATIONS OF MAINTAINING TRAUMA &/OR BLOCKING/SABOTAGING EFFECTIVE TRAUMA RELEASE EFFORTS

        . . . I connect to any components/combinations of components that have been, are now and or that would in the future contribute to negatively detrimentally defining any external/environmental circumstances and or what people are doing/made to do specifically to negatively/detrimentally impact/shock and or otherwise traumatize and or maintain trauma/block trauma releases and particularly by having myself/anyone repeatedly negatively impacted/disturbed/shocked/traumatized by having memories of shit past circumstance/situations/experiences recycled and or made consciously or unconsciously disturb/distract and or pre-occupy myself and or make me reactive/sensitive to current and any recalled similar past circumstance/situations/experiences/impacts and or use these to generate any imagination/imaginings/pre-occupations relating to these/any combination of these and or anything that has been, is now and or could in the future prevent me from becoming aware of and or of accurately identifying or describing anything of any shit systems/sub system and or there networking factors/activators and or functioning combinations and or anything else IMPORTANT and particularly anything specifically contributing to make it as difficult as possible for me to accurately define/describe and or then directly/target anything/any type of shit including the variety and or means/sophistication of functioning/tactics of any ‘shit’ components and particularly to make it difficult for me/us to effectively hack/tame/bring under control any and all shit versions . . . and particularly any ‘shit’ systems/versions that have been and are now contributing to sabotage/debilitate/get me and or diversify/modify themselves/their ways of functioning and or tactics because of what I am doing now . . . !!!!

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    Shalin
    February 27, 2020 @ 9:17 pm

    Clive, So its still this mix/match avatar set that is locking down Tom/copies-of-Tom (me)? i.e. I am still interfaced to possibly infinite number of different avatars including the dragon.

    I confirm all my issues r 100% locked down so far.

    I’ve been doing the top focus daily but this past week been shooting mostly blanks. I still have this feeling that I am being blocked from *seeing/getting anything* during focus. Will keep doing though.

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        Clive
        March 6, 2020 @ 4:01 pm

        Shalin/Everyone . . . Mmmm here is an ‘extra’ insane scenario (although is also very realistic/is likely correct too) which is possibly applicable to your issues/circumstances Shalin.

        All ‘regular’ readers here will know that I’m very suspicious about pretty much ‘everything’ here . . . in reading alternate/history sites for many years (particularly malagabay.com which is exceptional) I came across a page showing a vast collection of many different ancient coins all presenting images of a flying horse i.e. ‘Pegasus’ (I cannot find this now BUT there is another one here) . . . so, in that we are all subtle beings interfaced to a human and that most of of us would be simulating anyone that wouldn’t be seen dead wearing a ‘human’ meat suit such that I’ve then presented evidence that we have pretty much all been converted from many different animal avatar forms into the one single engineered to be decrepit human form . . . then I started to wonder if we’ve some duplicated horse conversion possibilities being presented here too!!!!

        Now horses here = aids to travel and are also aids to transporting ‘goods’ too i.e. they were in the past extensively used by traders and particularly the horse and cart version!!!

        In that coins are an integral part of trading/money then it’s applicable that very early coins would have images of horses on them (as they’d represent the means to trade) BUT horse’s flying IN THE AIR HORSES WITH WINGS very definitely seem a bit over the top to me . . . also, in watching the series ‘Luck’ with Dustin Hoffman it becomes obvious that some specific horse’s are of a very different ‘class/type’ i.e. they are sort of exceptionally ‘revered/pampered’!!!!

        In other words, I’m pretty sure that some actual ‘real’ horse’s here not actually horse’s at all (in the original MV)!!!! In which case what are they?

        So, if you were a trader Shalin actually trading within a galaxy scale sized space what sort of ‘horse’ would you be riding around ‘trading’ goods with!!! Isn’t it likely to be a Leviathan i.e. an giant space living creature that can star burst i.e. is self propelled via an inbuilt ‘natural’ engine!!!!

        I’ve been re watching some films and series I bought over the last decade and over the last few days watched the first season of Farscape again. Here is the description of ‘Moya’ the seemingly sentient ‘natural’ Leviathan that can sort of hyperjump at will!!!!

        “Moya – Moya is a Leviathan, the fifth generation of these living ships. She was born in freedom, captured by Leviathan Hunters and sold to the Peacekeepers for them to use as a prison transport. She is a great and powerful ship, with no weapons. In communication with and taken care of by Pilot, the enormous living entity that is symbiotically fused to her, Moya has adjusted to her new inhabitants and has been able to trust them enough to become their home. Like Pilot, she is anxious to serve her crew, but not at the expense of her own agenda. Her natural instincts to protect all life, however, do override her personal fear of pain and suffering.”

        Now, if you get and watch the first season you’ll become aware of the functioning of ‘Moya’ whose star jumping seems to be connected to the build up of wastes maybe being strategically eliminated to result in very precise jumps between star systems i.e. vast distances!!!

        That season also shows members of the star ship and others being tortured by the ‘peacekeepers’ whom we find out are also trying to bio-engineer ‘Leviathans’ for there own uses/agendas AND are obviously biased against others travelling around trading in these space horse type forms too.

        Seeing as these space horse’s means of propulsion may be powered by the equivalent of digestion processing wastes then it seems to me very possible that you Shalin as a trader within the original multiverse are likely to have been interfaced directly to one of these forms . . . in fact the entire first Farscape season would likely be worth watching because it’s almost certainly applicable in many ways to your original forms experiences.

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    Tommy
    February 27, 2020 @ 10:55 pm

    So Clive me Shalin and Tom are splits of the same original subtle form? Did I get that right?

    Past couple of days have been a shit show. The mice are back my mate Filly on the couch who basically caused me to indulge in bad shit.

    Wanted to quit with fags. Filly left fags on the table. Got rip roaring drunk this weekend because I was so sick of everything.

    So after a bunch of alcohol and a visit to my ex I kinda wanted to end myself because my ex is also in a shit show of problems who just never seem to get less or resolved.

    I’m resentful because she doesn’t get off her arse to actually do shit and kinda just expects me to solve it for her. I have wanted to end this a billion times but somehow the sim has been using Stella to reprogram me into someone nicer.

    I was a bit of a twat in my teens before I met her. I kinda suspect she worked on the rendering editing department of the eeas project but after her numerous accidents she was pushed to the a new age whitey lighty nicey nicey fake healer route.

    That and the she should have started doing shaman stuff like two decades ago then this wouldn’t have happened to her.

    I suspect she was forced to become some fake plastic healer bullshit after the accidents.

    She kinda dodged it but the price is her life is a mess with debts having to go to bullshit therapy that won’t actually fix that fucked spine of hers. It’s mostly symptoms who get pacified for a couple of days.

    I’m basically gonna try to stay clear of alcohol and fags after my pack is done. Stay clear of my ex and junkfood. Wait till filly has a better place to stay prolly won’t take very long hopefully.

    It’s like they are pushing for the self destructive route with me again. Make him do all the bad shit keep him distracted and worried about others.

    Had a meeting this afternoon with my eh counselors. She’s pregnant so they handed me off to some other guy and woman.

    I was kinda worried that my shenanigans might have affected her.

    I was kinda worried because ever since I got her weird stuff has been happening. The new dude looked alright.

    I feel like the sim has been using my mate on the couch as something to feed extra new spicy sim shit.

    I’m kinda worried the new counselors might be used for that also.

    It’s has been a fest of self destructive self defeating self sabotaging behavior.

    Kinda fed up with everything really. So my mate on the couch will fuck off to Berlin for the weekend.

    Hopefully I could do some focusses. Has been on the back burner for the last couple of days.

    It feels like I get blocked and negated. I’m kinda tired mostly fed up. I want original normal pre psychedelics me back. If that isn’t possible hopefully non deranged non retarded ineffective me.

    Man how hard is it to just have normal life without submitting to the religious bullshit and having to be a little sociopath.

    I’m sick that everything I ever wanted since I was a kid always had some defect of some hidden something that makes it pointless to have in the end.

    What’s the use of getting a house if it has mice. What’s the use of getting a gf if it’s not what I wanted. You might call me a entitled shit but come on.

    I also have the feeling someone or something is actually benefiting of me being in this fucked situation. That someone or something is over the moon that my life is a mess.

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    Megan
    February 29, 2020 @ 9:06 am

    I don’t know if I made the biggest mistake of my life or not.

    So this last weekend, following my gut/guidance, I got back into ‘Spirit Keeping’, and so far over the past week purchased 5 spirits between two conjurers whom I know and trust, and had purchased spirits from years ago when I did this before. I purchased my first one last weekend, and to be completely honest, this last week has been both good in bad in a variety of ways.

    To start, last week I had been farmed out to another department in the factory I work at, voluntarily, because they have been inundated with a lot of work. Now last week, work had gone really well, prior to purchasing my first spirit. But this week has been Hell in terms of productivity. There were frequent mistakes that were being made in the earlier stages of production that were progressively getting worst as the week went on and consequently with the more spirits I purchased. Not only that but the management had made some bad job assignment decisions (and I honestly felt this in the morning meeting after he said it and even with bad numbers production wise the supervisor didn’t change anything that day,) and was yelling at us each day for bad production numbers.

    Now to be honest, the events that have been happening here haven’t really been affecting me personally, not like it did before you and your teams got access to our personal trt shit data, but what is pissing me off is bearing witness is watching the management ‘crack the whip’ on people to get things out faster without really helping out themselves. Not only that but also coming down on people who were not responsible or in control of these mistakes to begin with.

    Personally, after purchasing these spirits, things have been very different for me emotionally/gut wise. I feel more present and grounded in the world. I don’t feel so alone like I normally do, like I finally found a ‘family’ and am actually taking an interest in the world and society (I have a lot to catch up on.) I have even been able to reflect on some of the past interactions I had at my previous place of employment, and I don’t feel humiliated or embarrassed about them. I feel supported and I feel like I am finally able to emotionally process these incidents.

    Mentally/head wise, I am an anxious/nervous wreck because of the spirits I have purchased and this is more towards the spirits not the people I have to deal with day to day. The way I am acting is not unlike how I used to feel/act/be around my other co-workers teammates prior to your teams accessing the personal data stores. Gut wise, I have felt nothing but love and support, but head and heart wise I am constantly freaking out with thoughts of them not being real/made up/schizophrenic/hallucinations/delusions. I am terrified of them. I am terrified I will hurt or offend them. I am terrified they won’t listen to me even though I have set ground rules and have made my intentions clear multiple times. I fear them as being evil spirits/devils that are going to terrorize others and me (like those events you see in ghost/haunting movies or even say like the paranoia of the inquisition/New England witch hunts where strange events were blamed on malevolent spirits summoned by witches, which in my case I would be the one persecuted for the whole mess.) I’m afraid of being hurt/angry/afraid with them being involved because I am afraid they will retaliate or do something based on my reactions (for the record, some of their listings said they offered protection and I have stated clearly multiple times that this is not what I want from them nor do I want them to retaliate against others in my favor based on my emotions/reactions. I have realized, since their purchase and reflecting on my own desires/expectations/intentions when I first did spirit keeping years ago that protection and retaliation were one of the things that I desired in an unconscious/emotional sense.) I am also afraid of what they think/feel/see of me, and while I have felt nothing but love and support, I do not trust that good feeling. This has left me mentally preoccupied and paranoid.

    Not only that but over the past couple days things have been fucking strange. Thursday I slipped on what I thought was a patch of ice getting the mail (if memory serves me right, I had stepped on this same patch before multiple times to get the mail and never slipped. Not only that but I have not slipped on a patch of in the last few years that I can recall and there are plenty of times I should have.) Today, Friday, I was so mentally preoccupied that I forgot I had toilet paper in my shopping cart checking out at the self-checkout (even though I had grabbed it out of the lower basket and put it on the top one,) and didn’t realize I had not paid for it until I got to the parking lot and went right back into the store to pay for it. Having to make two more trips back to the grocery store because I forgot two items that I needed to make supper. Then almost chocking on little bits of pecan when I finished off my coffee. Also, when I was doing a short yoga routine this morning my left foot hurt like I didn’t stretch it properly (thing is I do a yoga class once a week and did two short yoga routines earlier this week and didn’t have problems. Now this particular pain reminded me of when I was a machine operator at my previous place of employment I was working with a woman who was a very self-righteous Christian woman, the daughter of a pastor. While it didn’t hurt at first, for some reason, the longer I worked with this woman my left foot would hurt and it would progressively get worst and stretching and orthotics wouldn’t make a difference. Now my left foot never hurt whenever I was working with anyone else and I had not felt that kind of pain again until today.)

    And the worst of all this is that I was absolutely terrified to tell you about any of this Clive. Reflecting on all this, my reactions/thoughts/attitude where kind of like that of a guilty sinner/follower who broke some sacred rule and needed to go to confession or wanted to hide or deny the sin. It made me the way I act/process/handle the information from your website is kind of like a mindless, fanatic follower who just takes their leader’s word at face value and believes it and says it is true without investigating or prior experience. I will be honest here, your pages and your words are the only things I can trust mentally, emotionally and spiritually. You are the only one who has given me answers and have made any sense (although it has taken years to get my mind wrapped around it and I am still working to understand it.)

    I visualize myself standing before these spirits I purchased, and I feel a disconnect/barrier/blankness in my heart center. It reminds me of the blankness I used to feel in my gut prior to the AAHS, and I get the feeling there is a significant amount of trauma and betrayal there.

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    Annabelle
    March 8, 2020 @ 3:16 am

    I feel I am still locked down and not able to get any improvement in issues. I have been going through extreme fatigue and disoriented headspace with no medical reason. I have tried to adjust my diet with no help (and I really don’t care what I eat). I find I need to continuously adjust my diet until I feel better, and then keep re-adjusting it every 2-3 months. It is never the same anymore.
    While focusing on “connect to all components” I have any urge, and do start to rummage thru all my craft and sewing closets and throw away tons of stuff that has been there for 10 years.
    While re-reading the section about the virtual grid work around earth, it reminds me of my hobby in needlework and quilting. While walking outdoors I often see nature as a series of grid work patterns as per the following example:
    http://www.maurer-stroh.com/EMS2010_June_06.html

    I think how I could adjust the colors to make them look better. Many patterns even suggest people adjust the colors, as you desire.
    The sheep is a particular good example of an intricate deign I have done that drives me crazy with 50 shades of white:
    https://www.cross-stitch-pattern.net/Sheep-48-5-Free-Design.aspx

    Farm design
    https://www.bothythreads.com/product/countryside-appletree-farm/

    I have done many animal designs – cows, leopards, deer etc. with 50 shades of the same color and get very impatient to see the finished product, but know it is worth the effort not to stop and give up. I can easily see myself designing / overseeing these virtual backdrops and working them to perfection. It is interesting that many patterns say “ do not judge your work until it is complete.”

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        Clive
        March 11, 2020 @ 6:51 pm

        Latest Focus/update:

        Shit sets have been somewhat solidly focused on maintaining the lockdown management of all the core ‘Toms’ here which until recently was very focused on targeting hacking efforts. However, since yesterday, the shit was very, very focused on attempts to control/manage ‘key’ Tom’s, in dealing with those angles, today it’s shifted to cover more aspects of ‘everything’ as well also likely networking between and influencing/messing with many people . . . so, can everyone do the focus below a few times . . . ‘and’ leave any feedback/insights you get from doing it!!!!

        FOCUS: MANIPULATIONS OF MYSELF USED TO MANIPULATE OTHERS CASCADE:

        . . . I connect to anything/everything that has been/is now and or would in the future contribute in the slightest to using ‘anything’ of myself/any aspects of myself and particularly anything of my personality/persona, feelings, emotions and or any of my internal states and or any presented external reactions and responses ‘against’ myself and or to control/manipulate and or to direct/manoeuvre myself and or through me any others and particularly into any pre-defined ‘state/circumstances/attitude/stance/decision’ and or as part of any outcome/goal . . . and or over time any series of goals/outcomes and or objectives and or as part of reinforcing and or controlling any aspects of myself and or through me controlling/influencing others/any aspects of others and or any of their ‘feelings/states/circumstances/attitudes/stances and or decisions/outcomes’ . . .

        Some feedback on the functioning of this shit from Tom:

        . . . I see something like a prickly amorphous bloated mass around me, it’s like it feeds off and stimulates certain emotions. I have a sense of a kind of subtle energetic parasite, but there also seem to be others associated with other people, and it’s like they’re all networked and working in tandem . . . I connect to a prickly, itchy multidimensional texture inside me, and it seems to be influencing my feelings / attributes and internal states and engage with a translucent mass which seems to ‘sit’ on my thinking abilities (I see it around and permeating my brain). It seems to be conscious and to work to create and sustain trauma-based thinking lines – again, I see other people with these components too . . . I see something like generators inside my body, which can create a field of trauma all through my body when they switch on – sort of like I get ‘flooded’ with trauma . . . I see a sort of underwater tunnel stretching ‘through’ me, with a fish swimming through it – then when it reaches a certain point it disappears and appears in another identical ‘tunnel’ setup inside someone else, and then someone else. It’s like some kind of subterranean aquarium – not being able to see / ‘get’ the way in which the fish move from one person to another (it feels like teleportation), then I see jolts of electricity being passed through people’s thinking abilities, and then appearing in / passing through someone else’s, then someone else’s – and this feels like a subterranean / off the radar electricity network, which is using the same kind of advantages / shit emulating advantages . . .

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    Megan
    March 12, 2020 @ 12:37 am

    I can’t tell you how happy I am to see this focus. Did the focus during last break at work and got the feeling of my body being surrounded by something although I couldn’t pinpoint what it was.

    This is my first week back in my original department at work in three weeks and my anxiety/paranoia/panic/self-consciousness/over-sensitivity levels have been through the roof. I have been definitely feeling that slave-master ‘cracking the whip’ effect at work again and the feelings of social rejection/isolation got so bad again that I was wanting to kill myself.

    Things tapered off a bit for the rest of the day after reading the focus and will see if I can get anything more.

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        Clive
        March 12, 2020 @ 1:46 pm

        Actually Megan (as ‘core’ shit is very focused on ‘Toms’ at the present time) and specifically with respect to sabotaging Decision making angles (which you’ve mentioned a lot in the past) I made the focus below for Tom, so you/anyone with ‘decision’ sabotaging shit maybe try this . . . BUT having put up the below I made another focus below the below focus more attuned to your anxious/worried/stressed/preoccupation angles

        SABOTAGING MAKING DECISIONS

        . . . I connect to absolutely anything/everything that has been, is now and or would in the future directly or indirectly contribute in the slightest to cause me/any version/copy/split or duplicate version of me absolutely any problems/sabotages to making good/very good/excellent decisions easily and quickly AND OR of having these decisions/any decisions I make promptly and or accurately carried out by others and or others I instruct and or explain what I want/what needs to be done . . .

        . . . and or anything contributing to block/sabotage me from easily making a decision and or cause me to be indecisive and or sabotaged making decisions and or contributing to others not responding well/promptly and or appropriately to myself and or don’t carry out the actions I want done in the way I want them done and or cause problems/complications/don’t actually take notice of what I say and or what I recommend and or I am made to forget to mention important/critical things when I’m making decisions and or am explaining things/what I need them/someone to do . . . and or contributes in the slightest to myself having any trouble/problems AT ALL easily getting anyone to do anything for me promptly and or correctly and or with respect to what I ASK THEM TO DO & OR WHAT THEY SHOULD DO . . .

        . . . and anything contributing to me considering and or becoming pre-occupied with irrelevant and or side-tracking information when making decisions or becoming overwhelmed by too many options or unable to usefully weigh up different considerations or trying to make decisions too early or procrastinating, delaying or avoiding / not making decisions, making bad, non-optimal decisions and or thinking / feeling that I have / second guessing and doubting and constantly questioning my own judgement / regretting and being preoccupied with or absorbed in past decisions and how things could or should have gone differently and or thinking / feeling that I’ve made the wrong decision or self-questioning / doubting / second-guessing myself and not trusting my own judgement at all or becoming averse to making decisions myself . . .

        A more Worried/Stressed ‘Megan’ attuned version:

        . . . I connect to absolutely anything/everything that has been, is now and or would in the future directly or indirectly contribute in the slightest to cause me/any version/copy of me to become overly self-consciousness and or over-sensitivity, anxious/worried/paranoid and or panicky/scared while working with and or interacting with any others and particularly with respect to worrying about making any mistakes and or not making good/decent decisions and or of then negatively impacting others/colleagues/work mates/friends easily and or others I instruct and or explain what I want/what needs to be done/what I need doing . . .

        . . . and or anything contributing to block/sabotage me from easily and comfortably making a decision (without stress and or worry and or without having any negative comeback) and or cause me to be indecisive and or sabotaged making decisions and or contributing to others not responding well/promptly and or appropriately/respectfully to myself and or have them not carry out the actions I want done in the way I want them done and or cause problems/complications/don’t actually take notice of what I say and or what I recommend and or I am made to worry and or forget to think about and or mention important/critical things when I’m making decisions and or am explaining things/what I need them/someone/work colleagues to do . . . and or anything that contributes in the slightest to myself having any trouble/problems AT ALL easily getting anyone/work colleagues (without stressing me out/getting me worried) to do anything for me promptly and or correctly and or with respect to what I ASK THEM TO DO & OR WHAT THEY SHOULD DO . . .

        . . . and anything contributing to me considering and or becoming pre-occupied/worried/stressed about myself and or with pre-occupied about what others will think or how they will react to the decisions I make and or have me preoccupied about irrelevant and or side-tracking details or information and or having worries/preoccupations when making decisions or telling others what to do and or having me becoming overwhelmed by too many options or unable to usefully weigh up different considerations or options and or trying to make decisions too early or worrying and or procrastinating, delaying or avoiding / not making decisions and or worrying about making bad, non-optimal decisions and or thinking / feeling that I have / second guessing and doubting and constantly questioning/worrying about my own judgement / regretting and being preoccupied with or absorbed in any past decisions and how things could or should have gone differently and or thinking / feeling that I’ve made the wrong decision or self-questioning / doubting / second-guessing myself and not trusting my own judgement at all or becoming averse to making decisions myself . . .

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            Megan
            March 12, 2020 @ 5:46 pm

            Thanks Clive, I’ve been doing this at work and it’s helped tremendously. I did sense something around my head space reading it there first time. I’ll continue it through the weekend.

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    Tommy
    March 12, 2020 @ 4:52 pm

    New focus the shit decision one sounds way too familiar I also prolly haven’t listened to you guys. If I caused any trouble for you or your Tom then I’m sorry.

    What he explained about the itchy stuff happens way to often when I interact with other people.

    It mostly jumps over from other people when I’m talking. This itchy stuff the first time it came from a homeless guy the second time it came from someone who did a lot of drugs in his past and was a Catholic.

    I can remember like atleast 20 different separate occasions that when I went outside or did stuff and I got fucked over or bad things happened.

    Every since my backpack trip in 2014 so many weird stuff from other people shooting shit inside me prolly bad stuff management whatever I kinda turned into a recluse.

    I don’t like going out because when I do and I interact with people things happen I can undo fix or remove so I kinda put myself in quarantine.

    I’m not like Clive who can on the fly figure out what’s going on and take proper counter measures.

    I have been trying to figure out past interactions with people. Like what caused the dislike the dramas that happened and kinda put it into sim who pulls the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good_Place fuckery. Basically people being send by the sim scripted to do damage.

    I’m also sick of the Christians coming under the guise of help who’s help is just more fuckery. Salvation Army where I had to be because I was homeless was also a shitfest.

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        Clive
        March 12, 2020 @ 6:14 pm

        Haha, well Tommy that’s not surprising as it was written specifically because of decision sabotages to my friend ‘Tom’ i.e. it’s ‘mostly’ written to target any ‘Tom’ twin/duplicate sabotages, my friend Tom also keeps to himself too, he tries to avoid interactions as they cause too much shit during these too!!!! I’ve also noticed that a lot of down and outs on the streets look suspiciously like my friend Tom too (very tall with red/ginger hair)!!!!

        Here is more on the ‘Toms’ from my notes in a previous update . . .

        . . . there are more Tom’s here than everyone else specifically because many of the Tom’s are part of collecting all of the attributes/different angles of experiences to put together the best Generals/Admirals/Commanders and maybe others I think some would be focused on tactics/others research, maybe others on maintaining supplies (‘Shalin’ for example could be one of these ‘suppliers’/part of these possibilities ) . . . so, in the original MV a Tom and then splits of Tom or splits of Tom’s were setup/trained/educated/likely given sophisticated subtle tech etc to be upper and very competent Military people i.e. Generals/Admirals/Commanders etc whom we’re part of a task force/armada set up to evict SNV’s encroaching on and causing problems to many peoples on many worlds. This military effort to evict populations from other races spaces/regions was played out here as the efforts of Genghis Khan!!!! Whom with his ‘officers’ (likely other Tom’s) are considered second to none in military terms!!!!

        It’s very likely that one of the hidden reasons for designing the EAAS was to use it specifically to sabotage the General/Admiral/Commander focused ‘Toms’!!!!

        So, for Tom and hence then many of the Tom’s/Tom’s splits . . . I made up the focus below a week or so back to target these sabotages. . . So, Tommy (anyone else here) if the below strikes you then maybe use it a few times!!!!

        . . . I connect to absolutely every Tom/all Tom’s whom are part of any ‘program/agenda’ focused on an outcome of accumulating/having absolutely any/all attributes/functions/functioning/training/skills and or attitudes and or all emotional and or feeling states totally supportive/in alignment with and or useful to the overall/entire collection of Toms General/Admiral/Commander roles . . . I connect to all of these Tom’s NOW and I connect to all of the attributes/skills/attitudes/feeling and or emotions that each of these Tom was ‘moulded’ in experience terms to embody/live/have as part of there experience . . . and . . . I now connect to all components and or all combinations of components that have been, are now and or would in the future specifically contribute in the slightest to sabotage and or to attempt to sabotage any of these useful attributes and or the ‘useful’ presentation/the lived presentation of these/any skills and or attitudes . . . and I particularly connect to all components and or systems specifically designed to make ANY Tom less useful and or to twist any Tom into presenting/expressing in ways that are limiting/debilitating/distracting and or disabling/inverted . . . and particularly in terms of the specific General/Admiral/Commander role/status/skills/attributes they we’re made to accumulate . . . I connect to everything sabotaging/limiting/debilitating and or inverting and or trying to do this now . . .

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    Shalin
    March 13, 2020 @ 1:32 am

    Clive, I can attest to the possible trader/supplier Tom version. I studied engineering in university but always had a thirst for trading, especially commodities trading. Since 2007 I’ve been working as a *trader* of various commodities (electricity, gold/silver/copper/zinc/lead/aluminum).

    I too also have G/A/C tendencies in terms of giving orders/commands, expecting high results / having high standards for myself and others.

    This coronavirus pandemic has brought out some positive *supplier/trader* skills as I was among the first 2.5 months back to stock up on supplies of masks, food, water, toilet paper etc. People ridiculed me back then but now they realize I was right all along. I also have my parents in lockdown as if I was a G/A/C.

    The pandemic has also brought out a lot of negatives – all of my precious metals related speculative *trades/investments* are hurting really bad as mass liquidation is occurring in financial markets causing tremendous anxiety/anger/self-blame (what if I had taken certain actions prior to the melt-down etc.).

    I haven’t noticed anything *new* in terms of the current *Tom* shit impacting me in any new ways.

    Everything is as it has always been during this past 5 years. Physical is just as imbalanced/messed-up as ever.

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        Clive
        March 13, 2020 @ 11:21 am

        Yea, those very early virus crisis responses would ‘fit’ with a pre-empting future ‘supplies/needs’ to address a ‘predicted’ potential crisis Tom version . . . I also suspect (based on Megan’s issues/background) that she’s likely also a ‘Tom’ split too but one focused on overseeing ‘assembly line’ efficiency angles.

        I’ve actually done some (made up on the fly) scans re targetting the physical symptoms (got lots of hits), however this entire system/what we are living within seems to have been designed to FU and keep locked down any and all Tom’s ‘primarily’ i.e. as the highest priority!!!! Hence then I’m now suspicious that all previous fake software defined hacking ‘reality’ itself experience (that’s gone on for over a decade now) was to get to this point to try/attempt to undo the shit/networks disabling the Tom’s ‘specifically’ . . . seeing as we are made up ‘mostly’ of a population of about 350,000 peoples/subtle forms all ‘duplicated’ multiple times to make up the majority of the 7 billion+ population here!!! All pretty much insane from any angle you care to think about/evaluate this from!!!!

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    Megan
    March 13, 2020 @ 3:57 pm

    I’m still working with the new decision making focus, but I realized a huge factor as to my ability to make decisions for myself was heavily influence/affected by the people I dealt with around me, and what they felt/thought/believed/said/etc. But doing the Tom exercise you left…the only way I can describe it is like the neurons in the brain. I felt like one node interconnected to a whole bunch of other nodes.

    Your comment on assembly line efficiency is interesting. Personally, I loved my time as a machine operator because of the position of leadership and independence it gave me. Not to mention my changing interactions with people. I have a difficult time being led by others because they are often very disconnected and don’t care about those people working under them, only about their ego and production numbers. I was a lot like that before I learned the hard way what really mattered to me and changed how I handled people in a working environment. I learned to get to know those I work with and understand them better, and make sure they feel valued even if the work isn’t glamorous.

    Your comments on Tom GAC’s brought up the image of Miles Teg, the Bene Gesserit Bashar from the Dune series.

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        Clive
        March 22, 2020 @ 4:11 pm

        Latest latest 3rd April update/focus is NOW CLICK HERE

        OLD

        Hi Megan/EVERYONE, USE THIS FOCUS NOW, Megan this focus targets/fits directly with what you write in your comment “heavily influence/affected by the people I dealt with around me”

        As our personal trt’s including all trauma/shit is in one big mixed up ball/store then the focus below is the best one to target this shit pile accurately!!!!

        TARGETING THE COORDINATED TRANSFER & MAINTENANCE OF TRT’S VIA DIRECT & REMOTE INTERACTIONS, ENVIRONMENTAL DROP OFF POINTS etc. etc . . . the new focus below, is an adapted version of the most recent focus’s targetting all personal interactions while also targeting all angles of possibilities of transferring trt’s/trauma shit via closeness of proximity/environmental drop off/pick points and or dimensional doorways etc. . .

        . . . I connect to myself and to everywhere I’ve recently been and or everywhere I’ll be in the recent future . . . I connect to everyone I have recently been in close proximity too and to all people/everyone I’ll pass and or will be in close physical proximity to and or whom I’ll directly, indirectly and or remotely engage with in the next 24 hours . . . I connect to all of these past and future people and to all past and future places/locations I’ll spend time in and or pass though NOW . . . I connect to absolutely all items and components/everything that has been, is now and or would in the future contribute in the slightest to directly or indirectly track, predict and or coordinate the movement and or transfer of any persona/trt’s, trauma/shit/any ‘influences’ via any direct or indirect interactions and or by anything monitoring and or pre-defining and coordinating ‘ANYTHING’, BUT particularly the transfer of influences, trt’s and or anything representing these and or ANYTHING ELSE AT ALL between myself and or anyone else/any others and or via ANYTHING ELSE . . . ANYWHERE . . .

        . . . I connect to any and all combinations of components, items and or trt’s and or anything monitoring, pre-defining and or coordinating ANYTHING between me/others/people/anyone and or anything ‘representing’ anyone and or via their proximity within environment and or via anything acting as drop off and or pick up points/places and or anything functioning as a dimensional doorway and or ANYTHING ELSE/any combination of anything that has been is now and or would in the future directly or indirectly contribute to maintain and or increase my trauma/trt’s and or to block/prevent access to and or the release of ANY persona trt/trauma combinations and or contribute to reapply/restore any already released trauma/trt combinations including by recycling past traumatic memories/experiences and or any feelings/impacts of these and or anything else used to directly or indirectly ‘represent’ any past trauma/any traumatic event/situation/circumstances and or to use these and or anything else to maintain and or re traumatize, sabotage, block and or prevent me/anyone from accessing/engaging with my own and or anyone’s trauma/trt’s and or any impregnable/locked down caches/stores and or any type of ‘representation/obscure form’ of the same designed to prevent these from being found and or engaged with and or dealt with by intent/focuses/scans and or anything else . . . and or otherwise directly or indirectly contribute to any negative anticipation/preoccupation with respect to directly or indirectly contacting, meeting and or interacting/communicating with anyone and particularly with respect to myself experiencing ANY worry, anxiety, stress and or imagining any potential worst possible outcomes for myself . . .

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    Tommy
    March 22, 2020 @ 5:25 pm

    Gonna use it a bit later. I did focus 7 the target roles positions duties obligations and was feeling pretty good until I got my burritos. Got the burrito and while eating it I felt really really bad. Was with my mate who’s staying at my place but I totally flipped out. I acted normally but I really wanted him gone outta my house. My mates dad was really involved with rational Christian stuff the Portugese version he was a preacher or some higher up in that whatever it is. I suspect that my mate unknowingly been used to feed me shit. My ex also doesn’t pick up on that I want her to solve her own problems no one wants to put up ads so she can get people to rent her extra room. I did like 5 rounds on Facebook to get people for her but every time something happens that they don’t pick the room and I’m stuck with having to give her money which makes me angry because end of the month I’m in trouble. That mate who stays on my couch also isn’t very generous without having to hound him for it.

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    Megan
    March 23, 2020 @ 2:19 am

    I have tried everything in the world to bring a lot of the problems and issues I’ve seen in the world to the attention of those who could do something about it and have been shot down constantly, and it feels like being born a female is kind of the epitome of these problems.

    One thing I’ve noticed as I have overcome and resolved my own issues is I’ve gained a low-to-no tolerance policy for some of the drama and bullshit some of the people in my life have brought up and deal with, my mother and dealing with certain family members being the perfect example. My mother had no time or patience for the mental and emotional issues I faced growing up, and now turn about seems to be fair play for me in most cases with some of the people I deal with in life and this isn’t who I want to be or how I want to handle it.

    I see pictures of the ‘ideal’ female figure and the pleasure/lust/seduction expected from such a role and can say that if that is what is wanted or expected of females then I suppose I am not a female. When it comes to my body, I struggle trying to exercise or eating right or taking care of myself mentally and emotionally overall, but this constant lack of interest and motivation internally for myself causes a lot of frustration.

    I seem to have an internal defense mechanism against anything I would feel internally, not just of bad things, but of good things too. This reminds me of how I would daydream as a child to make up for the parental/social support, encouragement and motivation I lacked as a child, so I found a way to do it myself, but this has wound up with me having some rather misguided/bad/wrong expectations of people/spirits/society and how things work.

    There are still some things that I have done in the past that I have not forgiven myself for even though I am not doing them now and have no inkling to do so because I believe I should have had the awareness and willpower to control or stop it. I find it difficult to accept feelings of approval, love, support and acceptance from others and especially myself, often believing them to be lies and a waste of my time because nothing is ever right or okay or enough.

    The greatest pride/accomplishment I have in life is being able to take and follow orders and getting things done as quickly and effectively as possible and finding new ways to make it faster and better. To some effect, it is like being a soldier. I often feel and see myself fighting for or against something, especially something I think/feel/believe is wrong or that I am passionate about, yet at the same time this attitude and behavior has been detrimental in trying to change myself and how I see and do things.

    One of my ever-present attitudes and objectives for when we get out of here is to find some remote, isolated part of the subtle realm and stay as far away from others/society/civilization as possible.

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    Shalin
    March 29, 2020 @ 1:34 am

    Clive, I’ve done the 2 new focuses about 20-30 times day for the first few days then reduced to 5-10 times.

    I still get *NOTHING*.

    All of my physical symptoms/imbalances are as they’ve always been. All my traumas r repeatedly playing with frequent recycling of torturous memories/flash-backs, dreams, conflicts with friends/family members, continuous punishment with financial loss situations/circumstances, & everything else.

    Whats going on in my physical body has never occurred to any human avatar in the history of the EAAS.

    At this point I re-visit whether we truly understand what is causing & locking down my issues? So far we’ve postulated: Avatar switching shit, dragon avatar, leviathan/horse avatar & other on the fly scans you did of me.

    But none of those things have unraveled anything so far.

    It could be that we are on the wrong path and/or missing some very *key* pieces of the puzzle and/or missing what is *locking* what you’ve already discovered of me.

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        Clive
        April 3, 2020 @ 2:57 pm

        Shalin/EVERYONE read/latest focus . . . then an update at the bottom

        So, Shalin, it seems like ‘frustration’ would be an appropriate descriptor in terms of you consistently getting ‘nothing’ . . . on the other hand I’ve been having way more as well as consistent ‘releases’ of my past common as well as not so common ‘symptoms’ in the last few days (some of which I’d pretty much forgotten about) including base gut/abdomen physical body focused worry and anxiety as well as ‘head’ based stress ‘tension’ (results in my jaw literally completely ‘locking up’ when its very bad) . . . so as both of these have been in the background for quite a while/hardly noticeable then it seems to me that we’ve got access to more personal data caches/stores of these specific effects that relate to myself . . .

        So, here is yet another focus for everyone to preferentially use at the present time . . .

        CURRENT FOCUS TO TARGET ANYTHING MAINTAINING TRAUMA &/OR BLOCKING/SABOTAGING EFFECTIVE TRAUMA/ETC RELEASE EFFORTS

        Within the focus below, where you have ‘XYZ’ then have a think about the feelings/emotions (such as fear, sadness, frustration, anger) and or ‘reactions’ and or ‘states’ that you are aware of such as you being: reactive/over reactive or un-reactive/unresponsive and or emotionless, then any physical pain/discomfort (in my XYZ(stomach for example) and or ‘here’ i.e. mentally put your attention on the ‘sensation’) and or on any emotional pain (in your heart, kidneys, gut, abdomen, forehead, ???) and or any feelings/sensations of stress, tension, worry and or also then ‘think’ about any pre-‘worries’ and or ‘occupations’ about ‘anything’!!!!

        . . . I connect to any and all combinations of components that have been, are now and or would in the future contribute in the slightest to both maintain trauma (and or memories of trauma and or any traumatic memories) and or block access to and or prevent the release of ANY trauma and or persona/trt combinations (and or to block access to the memories of and or the release of trauma/trt’s from any memories of trauma and or traumatic circumstances/experiences and or anything representing these and or anything else representing ANY trauma and or persona/trt combinations and or anything contributing to myself feeling and or experiencing:

        ‘XYZ/state feelings/reactions/states/sensations and or has me worried/preoccupied/stressed . . . and or is contributing to pains/sensations in my ABC . . . ‘

        . . . and or anything that would in the slightest contribute to restore and or reapply any already released trauma and or trt combinations and or would try and maintain any persistent internal mental and or felt/emotional feeling and or sensation and or any reactive and or hurting/hurtful and or debilitating/pre-occupying states/conditions and or sensations and or ‘anything’ which is doing anything to maintain ANYTHING AT ALL/ANYTHING OF THESE . . . including by recycling past traumatic memories/experiences and or the feelings/impacts and or body sensations related to these/anything representing these/any past trauma/states/feelings/sensations and or anything directly or indirectly related to any past traumatic event/situation/circumstances and or anything using these and or anything else to traumatize, re traumatize, sabotage, block and or prevent me from accessing/engaging with my own and or anyone’s trauma/trt’s and or any physical, physiological, psychological and or any emotional ‘states and or hurts’ or any impregnable/locked down caches/stores or any type of ‘representation/obscure form’ of the same designed to not be engaged with and or released by any focus/scans including by targeted/directed intent/focuses/scans and or anything else . . .

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        With respect to the current so called pam demik . . . here is a ‘fact’ . . . we’ve noticeably less flu/virus cases and also less deaths compared to the same date/time point with respect to last year’s flu season (as well as other recent previous years) and yet I’ve no recall either of any ‘pandemic’ announcement for any previous year nor of any ‘lockdown’ applied to any population either . . . hence then it’s seems to me (given the phase we/you reading this here are in AND particularly with respect to what I’ve been presenting here) that the current GROSS over reaction has VERY LIKELY been deliberately setup by the external/way up in the data system ‘designers/instigators’ of this FU place to facilitate their agenda AND PARTICULARLY with respect to not only the large groups of ‘Toms’ here BUT to many other sub population groups of other duplicated populations of other very, very ‘specific’ subtle people too!!!!

        As specific large groups of peoples personal/persona data are now being stored and ‘handled’ as a cloud of essentially ‘POOLED/SHARED’ data ‘AND’ how this shared data is used/selected basically determines how each specific person (as an individual) within the large/very big pool of the very same subtle person/form each behave, function and or respond under any/all circumstances then it’s like having one large data set representing all of the data that determines the scale and variety of how each of these VERSIONS OF THE SAME PEOPLE can respond/react and or behave under different conditions. Basically, it seems to me that with the ‘fake earth/EAAS’ set up here they are trying to generate a data set ‘pool’ with absolutely all ‘experience’ variations possible that would then allow them to very, very finely control the choices/decisions and or responses/actions of each of these people under a very large scale of circumstances and conditions.

        Basically, as a planetary population with many, many copies of the exact same person/subtle form everywhere here, inclusive of having many different countries each responding to the made up isn’t happening pandemonium causing demic then each different population/country (all of which will include many versions of the Toms as well as other specific ‘people’ and all other copies of the same original single person) then the ‘designers’ are very likely using these circumstances to create different as well as DIFFICULT/STRESSFUL circumstances (for example, maybe more equivalent to what you’d experience during say in a battle/war and or stressful conflict/standoff) so that they can then collect way more ‘samples’ specifically under ‘way more stressful/more difficult than usual’ conditions/circumstances!!!!

        In other words, it seems to me that the designers/instigators of our obviously fake reality version have set up and are using current pandemonium causing circumstances to expand upon while also refining/increasing the ‘resolution/fine detail’ of the data set of some very specific but large sub groups each composed of people representing the exact same person/subtle form here . . .

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    Shalin
    April 3, 2020 @ 4:27 pm

    Clive, yes it is extremely *frustrating* and very *disappointing* that I’m consistently getting *nothing* while doing focuses, which brings me to what I’ve postulated all along – my issues are so extreme & F$#k’d that I can’t effectively *feel* or *think* properly. The organs in my abdomen r so F$#k’d / locked up – that the gut/brain intelligence is severely negatively impacted.

    As a result, me trying to help myself by doing focus hasn’t helped us in any way unravel anything so far.

    Which brings me to ask – have you/Matt/Tom/Anyone-else have had any luck trying to discover locked down and/or hidden components/caches/data stores of me or anything related to myself?

    I feel like UNTIL a certain threshold of *SHIT* has been unraveled/removed I will continue to be ineffective in helping in this cause.

    It’s like I’m so full of SHIT that it’s severely impeding my ability to help myself get out of this using focus/scan/intent.

    Of course I will keep trying but it does seem like the above is the case.

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        Clive
        April 3, 2020 @ 5:18 pm

        Wow, you just don’t get it even when it’s directly explained to you Shalin!!!

        Your ‘main’ issues have been frustrating you for a very long time ERGO your biggest/super massive issue to deal with (so big you miss it all the time) is ‘frustration’ and hence then your being put into frustrating circumstances (to track, give access to and hence then attempt to find/release/get rid of stores of frustration) . . . I ‘have’ described myself being deliberately put into stressing wind/worrying up circumstances. For example, my computer (that I rely upon to write this) has been blue screening and or not booting up properly regularly recently, 2 or 3 times yesterday, sometimes it boots up and presents a blank screen and on getting access to the task manager – I find that NO TASKS ARE RUNNING i.e. it’s also got stuck in the BIOS os boot up system!?!?!?!) . . . all deliberately being done with respect to myself . . . to get access to and to help find/identify and hence then reduce in some cases well hidden and or well disguised and or locked down trt’s/caches related to worry stress anxiety!!!!

        This is one of the all time piss-takes of this reality i.e. having to be in the reaction/wind up side effects of other issues/those that you want to resolve specifically to release the feeling/frustration/despair/anger (or whatever) and or reaction effects you’ve had to being in/still being in specific ‘shit’ issues that are the ones you want to get rid of . . .

        In other words doing the focuses and GETTING NO WHERE ‘recently’ has been part of trying to get access to and then release your build up of frustration!!!!!

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    Megan
    April 3, 2020 @ 9:06 pm

    Using the latest focus to target my relationship issues and problems with intimacy, especially with men, I get that the ‘assembly line efficiency’ thing has something to do with it. It’s like I have a certain goal/objective/purpose that I have and anything that deals with anything outside of this is a waste of time or trying to sabotage me.

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    Megan
    April 8, 2020 @ 12:56 am

    Shalin, besides the focuses, what else are you doing to engage with your frustration?

    -0-

    This is what I got using the current focus over the last couple of days.
    I get the impression that I am to blame for the current plague/pandemic. This reminds me of the Black Death and my suspicions that I was a witch in another life. I was urged to play through the game Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice, and towards the end of the game there is a cut scene where Senua watched her mother (who had the same gifts as Senua) being burned alive at the stake by her own father to appease the gods. Watching the cutscene, I saw and felt, in my solar plexus, myself collapse to the ground in frustration and grief crying out into the sky in pain, betrayal and madness.

    In terms of dealing with spirits and spirit-keeping, I realize that in the past I have called upon or used spirits as ‘meat-shields’, calling upon them to sacrifice themselves for my happiness and safety. I also realize that I have also called upon them seeking vengeance and revenge.

    I get the impression that there was some heavy Christian conversion stuff that happened to me and my friends and family are the biggest targets for this to happen. I see my roommate and my supervisor as being the biggest agents for this to happen in my life at this point. I get the impression that I attempted to make a deal with the Christians (or with someone important/powerful.) A life of obedience in exchange for escape. I feel like I was trying to get away from someone, my past or friends and family or something, and I chose Christianity as a means of escape. I did not want to feel anything for anyone anymore. I also think some part of me is still praying for other people in a way. I chose a life of poverty so I wouldn’t be hurt anymore. I also realize I really don’t know how to keep friends/people in my life unless I bribe or please them in someway.

    I have always said I want to help others, and I see that this desire/intention of mine has been twisted into a life of service to others. My present job position or just doing work for another person comes to mind and even thoughts about self-sacrifice for a cause (volunteering.) I have always wanted to start my own business or do something of my own that would make me financially independent and self-sufficient and give me the time to do the things I want to do, but for all the things I try to start I can never get things off the ground and I feel like I don’t have the right resources internally to stick to it and get it off the ground. I also get the impression that my desire to help others is also a part of a system of reward and punishment. Like I am rewarded and praised if I work for someone else or do what someone else tells me, but if I don’t want to do what they do or want to do something of my own design I get punished for it.

    My thoughts stray to my own disinterest in exercising and I see images of a fat, half-naked king sitting on a thrown. I find it funny that way back when being fat was a sign of wealth and prosperity while nowadays it is a sign of laziness, shame, and bad health.

    I absolutely hate nice/positive people, more for the fact that I can’t argue against their so called ‘light/right’ point of view because I can acutely feel their ‘pain/upset’ if I do. I have a very nasty habit of agreeing with certain people in order to keep the peace and keep them off my back, my mother being a perfect example.

    I think back on the tv shows/music/movies/anime/comics/manga/video games I have played in my life and realize that none of these things can ever make up for what I lack or really want in life.

    I want to share my experiences with others but on the other hand I don’t even want to bother because they aren’t going to get it or even try to understand. What hurts the most, especially in my case as I have experienced it, is when I have tried to share these things with people they treated me as if I was sick or insane or making it up, like the pain I was in was imaginary or attention seeking and just didn’t matter. In the end I was condemned for madness, weakness and pity.

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    Shalin
    April 14, 2020 @ 4:09 am

    Clive, side comment related to the *pandemic*. It seems many governments are using this fake pandemic to pass draconian laws to take away civil liberties & push forward the forced vaccination & UN agenda 2030. Bill Gates, the Clintons and others are major figures in this push but there are many cabal/illuminati types pushing this.

    Incidentally, I came across a documentary that perfectly unpacks what has been going on here in the EAAS in the last 120 years with un-elected/shadowy power structures ruling EAAS. This PANDEMIC seems to be a page right out of the play book of these un-elected/shadowy power structures.

    The documentary is quite long with the focus being who/what was behind the assassination of JFK, although it begins by setting the context by starting from the First World War, Russian Revolution of 1917-18, and lead up to Nazi Germany and World War 2. The same power structures were behind the 9/11 attacks in New York City & largely every major terrorist attack/bombing.

    https://you t u.be/d0plgCrvV_k

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    Shalin
    April 17, 2020 @ 9:37 pm

    Megan/Clive, what I’m doing to engage with my frustrations? Well for the last 5 years being in this physical hell it wasn’t clear to me what exactly it was that was causing my problems. All I knew was that I had experienced an endless list of emotional traumas/hurts etc.

    For every ounce of trapped frustration within my data stores/caches there are likely equal stores of everything else – anger, rage, resentment, fear, worry, grief, sadness, stress, tension etc because thats what my life has been about – unfortunate circumstances/experiences & repeated trauma.

    I try to engage with all of these emotions, traumas, experiences thru the focuses but I don’t get any clues/insights as I’ve mentioned. I don’t know where the hidden stores/caches are and I don’t know what is maintaining the frustrations/traumas/emotions or recycling/restoring them.

    BUT again, I don’t think its SHIT messing with my conscious mind so much as it is SHIT just trapped within my data stores/caches causing my physical imbalances. I’ve done a lot of cognitive behavior therapy on myself during these last 5 years -I’m no longer mad/angry with my father for how he treated me when I was young. Since I’m not in the dating scene I don’t need to worry about HIV/STDs, which was a source of extreme fear/worry/anxiety accumulation within my stores/caches in the past. I do have investments and as the financial markets go up/down lately due to all the volatility I do get worry/frustration/anger from that from time to time. I also do have persistent fear/worry because I’m afraid the 24/7 gastric fluids destroying my esophagus/nasal-canal/throat will lead to complications/cancer.

    And lately, I’ve been watching a lot of documentaries about the activities of the cabal and the leftist governments around the world in cahoots with them using the pandemic or perhaps even creating the pandemic intentionally to bring down Trump to continue with their agenda – take away our freedoms, one world government ruled by a select few elites etc. That has created some persistent anxiety/worry.

    As well, as you know I’ve had tremendous frustration from all the life events – failed romantic relationships, unfavorable work/career related outcomes, unfavorable investment outcomes, poverty circumstances, working under extremely difficult/tedious/stressful/frustrating circumstances/situations and on and on.

    I’ve disengaged from a lot of that. I’m not in a romantic relationship right now and I’ve taken a leave of absence from work/career. So I’ve removed those sources from adding to whatever frustration is already present in my data stores/caches.

    GIVEN ALL THAT, as I previously mentioned its not so much what is in my conscious mind as it is what is in my stores/caches that is causing my physical imbalances that is the problem. I’m NOT experiencing daily frustrations from any of the many sources of frustration that have previously led to the accumulation of frustration within my stores/caches. I’m not working so no risk of experiencing work related frustration which I’ve had so much of in the past. No wife/girlfriend so no frustration from romantic relationships.

    The frustration now is related to:

    A) NOT being able to live my life because of my physical imbalances
    B) Get out of the physical hell before it kills me

    #A above is a huge bucket of frustration because it basically cuts off all hope to ever get out of this hell to be able to live a normal life. I am unable to see a life beyond my current situation as it is impossible for me to see myself well/healthy and out of this hell to experience what it feels like just to wake up in the morning and not have the unbearable physical imbalances/symptoms destroying my body.

    A normal person usually has a lot of things to look forward to – romance, a trip/vacation, career/job advances, learning new skills, making love, engaging with their hobbies, meeting up with friends or family, it can be anything. For me all of that has been destroyed because of my extreme physical imbalances/symptoms. I don’t know what it feels like just to wake up in the morning, see the sunlight pouring into the room and feel happy and grateful to be alive. To enjoy a cup of coffee outside listening to the birds chirp. I cant do any of that and I cant even visualize it because I’ve been so trapped/stuck in this hell for so long now. I don’t know how it feels to be normal. What does a normal body feel like? I don’t know any more because it’s been so long.

    I see my friends living every day life – going for a jog, having a cup of coffee, going on vacation, going out to eat, laughing, smiling, whatever – they can do it because they have healthy bodies – they aren’t in maximum physical pain or discomfort every second of the day or night.

    So I engage by focuses and by self cognitive behavior therapy but it appears that whatever is causing, maintaining, recycling, restoring my issues has a firm grip and no amount of mental exercises I can do seems to help.

    These past 2 weeks I’ve had a lot of dreams and I often wake up in the middle of the night with symptoms worsened and in fear/worry states. Maybe that is wsw teams putting me in such dreams to get me into certain states to then track/find/release but so far I haven’t noticed any releases of any kind. I also have not noticed being placed into any past trauma or negative emotion states as what is happening now has been happing for the last 5 years so my every minute/second feels the exact same and is difficult for me to decipher if those outside/wsw teams r able to work on me.

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        Megan
        May 8, 2020 @ 5:50 pm

        Shalin, what I am sharing is how I was taught to facilitate myself and how I have learned to use the focuses. All of this is from my experience and perspective. I am not Clive. I have not been doing this as long as he has, but this is how I have come to see and understand things based on my experiences.

        When I first started doing the focuses, I experienced a lot of frustration too. Here I was reading comments from people who reading the focuses and seeing these amazing thing and contributing to the discussion, and here I was feeling frustrated, exhausted and getting a whole lot of nothing except more of the same of what I have always felt all my life. I eventually got to the point where I hated even thinking about the focuses since they weren’t doing me any good. It was only later that I realized that I was using these focuses with an expectation of everything – my pain my anger, frustration, etc. – just magically disappearing.

        Months into doing this and feeling like crap I was guided, and this is/was gut-guidance, to stop doing the focuses and to try something else. I was instructed to get a pen and a notebook, and I was ‘asked’ to ask myself this simple question, “What am I feeling?” I was guided to do a mental scan of my body, where was this feeling trapped (gut, heart, throat, lower back, etc.); how did I feel about it (good or bad? If I didn’t feel good (=happy/joyful) but I didn’t feel bad (=angry/in pain) did it feel dead like nothing (nothing can be something too. For me it represented a block/barrier); what did it feel like (tight like a knot, hard like a rock, thick like sludge); and what did this feeling remind me of (past memories/people/movies/music/etc.)? My mental focus was trained on my lower chakras (my root, sacral, solar plexus) and for most if not all of this time, this is where everything I dealt with came from.

        This was my primary focus for months. I had stopped doing focuses for the most part (I did new ones as they came out but put them down not long after) but I primarily kept my focus on identifying and reconnecting my mind with my emotions/lower chakras. Anytime I identified or connected to an emotion and my mind/consciousness/whatever went off on a tangent blaming other people (well my mother didn’t do this…, my dad did that…, so and so did something…, etc.) I was pressed with a critical question, “What did I want?” I was forced to figure out and admit my wants/desires/needs/expectations in situations no matter how reasonable or unreasonable/’good or bad’ they were.

        Doing this went on for months before I was finally guided and encouraged to start working with the focuses again, and I was finally able to actually start seeing things while using the focuses, but the most important thing I have gained through any of this is empathy and compassion for myself. I am still learning and I am not perfect, but I am able to do more things in my life, and can deal with some of the things that did or would have stopped me before WSW on the fly, in public, hell even at work in front of my co-workers (granted all it is internal work so I don’t really say much except cry to myself.) But all of these things are baby steps. They aren’t fixed in an instant or even over night (most of the time.)

        In the process of doing all of this, I have had to throw away everything that I thought/understood/believed about healing whether it related to light work/New Age angles or even psychology. Clive has even commented, (December 27, 2015 @ 12:11 pm), “‘Everything’ you list above plus the likes of EFT, TFT, NLP, CBT, SE (cognitive behavioural therapy / Somatic Experience) works as I’ve described on the scary pages. They all ‘adjust’ people while never actually opening to / dealing with the underlying embedded: trauma / pain / stress / anxiety etc.”

        A big thing about all of this is I was forced to learn how to express my pain and cry again, even in public as I have mentioned above. I have had cried a lot of tears into my pillows, I have spent hours on end journaling my every thought, feeling, etc just following my pain and anger and frustration and grief, I have driven down the interstate crying bloody murder in the middle of the night because it was the only place I could safely do so. Which begs the question, do you have a place you can be that emotionally honest and raw with yourself? I was renting an apartment when I was going through all of this so it made expressing myself out loud rather difficult.

        It sounds like you have been trying to mentally and emotionally balance your sanity on the head of a pin for quite a while Shalin, and for what it is worth I am sorry to hear about the things you have had to endure in all this. The focuses are working, but realize that even when the focuses or Clive or the WSW teams remove/take care of the original issue (whatever it may be) that does not mean that your soul hasn’t been left unscathed, however that may be. Right now, don’t worry too much on ‘seeing’ anything and focus more on reconnecting with yourself emotionally.

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    Megan
    August 9, 2020 @ 7:07 pm

    I started watching Farscape a while back, and I got the impression that the Peacekeepers represented the Tom split/duplicate of the General/Admiral/Commander roles and security you have mentioned previously. While I will say I didn’t really feel a connection to either Moya or Pilot, I do have an affinity to pegasi, unicorns and their like in a deep, emotional way (though it couldn’t possibly be because I was born in the year of the Horse according to Chinese astrology, could it?)

    I had an interesting conversation with a friend where we were talking about the difficulties we have had with our mothers. What I saw, as she was telling me about a friend of hers who had similar difficulties, was a woman laying on her side who was pregnant, yet not pregnant. Despite having been pregnant and having already given birth and the umbilical cord had been cut there was still an emotional/energetic umbilical cord attached between mother and child and from this pair I saw things spiderweb down through the generations.

    Still dealing with a lot heart and neck issues. Sometimes the soreness in my neck would get so bad it felt like a noose was around my neck (big surprise, hehe.) However things are being done for me I feel it slowly making its way towards my head.

    I get the impression that as a healer I was ‘forced’ to ‘retire’, and even after that I was constantly harassed to make sure things stayed that way. I am also noticing that although I am not formally trained as a ‘healer’ people still come to me with their problems like I am one in a way. It leaves me feeling bitter and resentful at times how selfish they can be at times.

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        Clive
        August 10, 2020 @ 4:35 pm

        They’ll likely be many anomalies related to people here simulating someone whom was maybe interfaced to a very, very different animal species type (that we don’t even have presented here), such that ‘for example’ some species maybe carry 1 or 2 or 3 developing fetus’s/babies each at different stages of development which would also possibly have them being pregnant over a longer period compared to other species while also giving birth to a single baby maybe 2 or three separate times when pregnant too!!!! That would be quite possible!!! Try explaining that to your friend – haha!!!!

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    XY
    December 15, 2020 @ 1:26 pm

    Hi clive! I came upon your site when i asked to know the truth about our reality. I have been steadily reading through the articles you have posted on this site and would like to thank you for what you are doing and would try my best to help in your research through the exercises in the future. Cheers!

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    Melissa
    June 3, 2021 @ 7:22 am

    I just did these two focuses. I am having issues with swallowing. It seems like there is a block to swallow. Because it won’t let me swallow properly there is like pressure and saliva in my mouth. I also am struggling with deep breaths and it feels like everything in my lung and upper abdomen is smashed flat and it won’t let me breathe properly. Swallowing and breathing are a issue. It feels like I am being blocked from doing that. What focuses would you recommend that I do for this Clive?

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        Clive
        June 6, 2021 @ 4:26 pm

        Hi Melissa, I suspect that we are in an ‘upper shits/fake designed software reality’ i.e. data system owners research phase i.e. it is very likely that they are trying out different sabotages/debilitations and or also ‘improvement/shit reversals’ on different people within our population.

        For example ‘today’ I find that I cannot view any of my sites in my firefox browser (I use this all the time). although, in just checking now pretty much every site I try and view/browse in Firefox results in a “Gah. Your tab just crashed” message (even Ebay and Amazon?!?!?!).

        So, when I access ‘soul-healer.com’ (this site) I always get a crash notice BUT when I access the same site as an administrator (to check on comments or to update plugins etc.) I get ‘normal’ access and can (at the moment) seemingly do anything within the ‘administrator’ space (at least at the moment). Fortunately I’ve got all of my important browser links in Yandex which (in just checking now) seems to work as it should (at least at the moment).

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    Melissa
    June 4, 2021 @ 3:32 am

    After I did the focus about my breathing issues I found out that my breathing parts are energetically pinned down with a plug or a nail or something like that and someone said that they wouldn’t take that off till I come back to the past life. I have been getting this message for like ten years or more. They won’t tell me how to get there but they want me to go back to the past life to them. My chest can’t breathe deeply my abdomen is blocked from breathing and my throat gets blocked. It got better after I did the focus but that one part is still blocked and it went back to all being blocked the next day.

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Subtle Cultures Earth Research & Ancient Gods Helping/Supporting the First Incarnated Settlers/Pioneers!!!

December 24, 2019

New page, giving yet more evidence of subtle forms interfacing from a very different angle . . . I’m using two sections from this page (the oak forest section and the Roman getting pregnant, giving birth, looking after baby, young toddler/child . . . etc) to expand on these angles for later pages . . . i.e. when the later pages get written these sections will disappear from this page!!!!

In writing earlier versions of this page I’ve been very gradually becoming more and more aware of the sheer scale and variety of ancient ‘Gods & Goddesses’ as well as the sheer scale and breadth of in some cases very narrow earth environment and or human life angles that they were apparently ultra obsessed with PLUS that we have many different, separate Gods connected to many different cultures all obsessively focused on the exact same earth life and environment aspects/areas too.

These repeating patterns eventually had me realising that absolutely ‘everything’ that is significantly different IN ANY WAY between the subtle form and any avatar/animal form it may find itself interfaced to as well as of any and all differences between the subtle environment and the physical environment and particularly the day in day out, as well as any LONGER TERM embedded habitual experiences of all subtle forms (whom in most cases will have been around for 10’s of millions of years) are then very likely to cause serious problems with respect to them adapting to being incarnated into what would be an utterly/exceptionally different i.e. completely alien physical environment while also being interfaced to and hence then being ‘represented’ by, an exceptionally, utterly different ‘alien’ animal vehicle/avatar life form which compared to the immortal subtle form is exceptionally short lived never mind that how most physical forms propagate/reproduce (to be quite explicit) is also utterly absolutely/different compared to how subtle forms propagate too!!!!

Let me give you some actual examples of the scale and range of pretty much any subtle form’s utterly embedded, engrained experiences and habits as well as its automatic/automated expectations, all of which will be exceptionally, utterly embedded because they will have accumulated over an utterly vast time scale. Coincidentally absolutely all of these engrained habits and expectations will be exceptionally, utterly different compared to absolutely anything it will experience regularly, if not ALL THE TIME should it ever become incarnated and hence then find itself permanently living as some animal form while it endeavours to have an earth based physical life experience!!!
Our Subtle Form & the Subtle Population’s Long Term Subtle Experience Made Explicit

Most subtle forms will have been living as a subtle being within the subtle environment for literally 10’s of millions of subtle years, in fact, many of the subtle population will be around 15 million subtle years old around the time that they started to become aware of the parallel physical strata, although it would be even longer before they’d figure out how to interface some of the early subtle explorers/researchers to various aspects of the physical . . . in other words in that the vast majority of the subtle population will have been propagating by dividing asexually to produce either identical and or none identical twins of the parent form then this will result in pretty much ALL OF THEM having approximately 10 or 15 or 20 million years of absolutely embedded subtle environment experiences inclusive, for example, of themselves and everyone else always living IN THE SKY although it is also exceptionally likely that they’d all have a lot of experiences ‘splitting/dividing’ to produce twins/duplicates of themselves many, many times too . . .

Can you reading this appreciate the problems of interfacing a form that’s basically had 10, 15 maybe 20 million years of then embedded subtle reality experiences into an utterly, completely different ‘alien’ surface of a planet environment never mind that they are all, when incarnated going to find themselves being ‘represented’ by a totally/utterly alien life form (compared to themselves)!!!!!

For example, pretty much any of the essentially alien physical animal forms (and particularly the larger ones) that any subtle form could be interfaced to also substantially change over time because most if not all of the larger animals go through multiple transforming, developmental phases as a newly born animal baby form grows in size while then living through various stages of growth and developmental transformations too!!!!

In that subtle forms divide asexually to then produce twins, which in most cases are then substantially equivalent to how they were before they ‘split’ in both size as well with respect to memories and experiences as well as with respect to acquired/learnt skills to the single original parent.

In this respect, absolutely none of the earth’s larger physical animal forms means of propagation, birth nor ‘growth’ phases/stages have any parallel with respect to the asexual, self dividing means of propagation that is ‘normal’ for the entire subtle population which I’ll remind you is also the only ‘species/life form’ within the subtle too!!!!

Basically, every single aspect of the subtle form’s embedded/engrained experiences of itself, its interactions with other subtle beings as well as of itself permanently living up in the sky within the subtle environment, all of which it will have accumulated over millions of years, will all be substantially different compared to what it will experience being incarnated/interfaced to a (relative to itself) very short lived physical animal life form while it spends time likely permanently living on the two dimensional surface of an alien physical world (rather than flying or bobbing around in the sky), and, rather than there being just one life form/species, there are a vast multitude of many, many, many different types, a small proportion of which will very likely be dangerous to its avatar’s ability to survive never mind all of the different types and varieties of earth pathogens responsible for all sorts of diseases as well as bad weather events, poisonous plants, venomous snakes and so on . . . in this respect it’s actually exceptionally likely that any large scale subtle to physical population incarnation effort is then very, very, very likely to include extensive overseeing guidance able to offer support and guidance at least for the first few incarnations/physical ‘lives’ until they all then gradually become adapted to the vast variety of differences . . . in other words, it seems exceptionally likely that there absolutely would have been ‘some’ subtle strata incarnation focused administration & support efforts specifically setup to monitor/track as well as guide/facilitate/support/help all of the newly incarnated subtle forms that were part of the first/earliest earth physical life colonisation efforts . . .
A Reminder of the STARK Differences Between the Subtle Form, Subtle Environment & its Current Physical Experience Circumstances

Let me ‘explicitly’, remind you of our current actual ‘human’ form circumstances as well as the past unfolding historical progression that led to these!!!

The human body is nothing more than a remote vehicle, an ‘avatar’ being driven around by an ‘intelligent’ none physical energetic/resonance based/frequency emitting ‘organism’ which is often called or described as ‘the soul’, and or as a ‘spirit’ although it’s occasionally seen or more often ‘felt’ as a ‘ghost’ form presence too (and particularly around the times when it’s been recently disengaged/de interfaced from the physical body/avatar form that it was using as a remote vehicle for its ‘now’ last life) although it is also sometimes referred to as the ‘subtle body’ here, at least within certain circles!!!

In that the process of initially researching and investigating/exploring the earth surface’s physical environments and habitats must have happened a very long time ago (in our terms) AND, that it is very likely that early physical earth planet incarnation and direct physical exploration efforts would have been very, very gradual, specifically because they’d have to figure out how to permanently as well as seamlessly interface their subtle people to likely a few different animal forms while then working out how to synchronise the subtle form to the daily (day and night and waking and sleep) cycles as well as more long term cycles (the seasons of the year for example) never mind of themselves also having to become used to the fact that unlike their subtle selves whom (if you remember the details I presented on the previous page) don’t ever actually have to go looking for food, nor then spend time preparing and then eating it to actually ‘STAY ALIVE’ never mind that all subtle beings in being immortal, then actually live FOR EVER & EVER & EVER too . . .

Based on what I write above, then one of the primary problems/handicaps of interfacing our subtle being/soul form to any physical animal form is that they are going to have to seriously adjust themselves with respect to them suddenly finding themselves interfaced to an animal form that then requires regular meals requiring them to adapt such that they then have to identify and then find and then eat food that is of an appropriate type for that specific animal avatar form. Although, it will also have to regularly find and also drink clean water and also then learn to shit and pee in places well away from either food or water sources while also having to find somewhere to sleep every night that’s ‘safe’ because rather than having absolutely no other species at all to think about, there are not only millions of different species on this earth planet BUT, unbelievably, none actually come with identifying labels specifically indicating whether they are poisonous or not, or are a predator of the animal you are currently using as a remote vehicle/avatar either!!!

Despite the above collection of day in and day out ‘adaptation’ problems, these will actually be minor compared to finding yourself interfaced to an animal that is not only ‘NOT’ IMMORTAL but worse, it also very gradually ages, becomes older and older such that over time it becomes more and more decrepit/disabled until ‘shock horror’ it eventually pegs out/kicks the bucket and then dies.

Which means that at the point that the interfaced form dies, it will be essential that the subtle form be de interfaced/disconnected from the now dead and hence then beginning to decay/break down body. If it’s not de-interfaced from the dead physical body fairly promptly it may end up being described/labelled as being one of the ‘still living’ dead.

Once de-interfaced from the physical avatar form, its subtle perceptions/senses, in now no longer being physical body/physical reality orientated (these sensory signals would have been being transmitted via the subtle to physical interfacing) would (depending on the culture) likely be fed sensory signals representing some type of virtual ‘reception’ space where it would likely have to wait until a suitable developing fetus of a currently pregnant animal form becomes available before it would then find itself re-interfaced/incarnated into a physical life form ‘YET AGAIN’!!!

So, overall during these early physical world exploration times, you are actually interfacing an exceptionally different i.e. an ‘alien’ subtle energetic organism to a remote physical avatar/vehicle. Such that despite that the subtle form (unlike the animal form) is actually ‘intelligent’ it is exceptionally unlikely to have any clue what so ever about any facet of the physical environment except/unless it’s been directly involved in some way with the physical earth planet remote investigations/research and or if it’s been intensively educated about different facets of the earth’s physical environment and also the exceptionally alien (to itself) physical animal form it’s supposed to use as a remote vehicle/avatar to inhabit/explore i.e. to actually attempt to FUNCTION/LIVE within this unbelievably different essentially alien environment/habitat!!!!

Just in case you ‘STILL’ don’t get what I’m trying to make clear here . . . then let me point out some things/angles for you to think about and particularly with respect to putting yourself in the position of being a subtle leader and or those subtle forms directly working on behalf of some subtle form leader whom specifically finds ‘ITSELF’ (remember it’s not either male or female) at the point of just THINKING about maybe/possibly interfacing some of their better educated subtle people as part of putting together a small specific environment/habitat expedition team whom would be responsible for figuring out as much as possible as part of preparations to have their entire subtle culture essentially pretty much permanently interfaced to some physical animal form.
The Needing to Regularly Find & Eat Food & have Shelter Within an Utterly/Unbelievably Alien Environment Problem

All the details and problems of which they’d very much have to figure out ‘well before’ they’d start to interface a significant number of there cultures larger subtle population into the physical and particularly as part of them starting to put together their own physical culture . . .

In that this would be a massive undertaking i.e. it essentially represents a mass exodus of an entire population of immortal subtle beings whom have naturally arisen and hence then always (as in ‘forever and ever’) lived within a very, very different energetic/resonance based environment for likely a very very long time being interfaced to a very, very different as well as essentially unknown ‘alien’ environment while being interfaced to (a ‘to themselves’) exceptionally alien type of life form!!!

Let me present you with what is likely a very limited/contained list of things they’d seriously need to know about before even starting to interface more than a very few subtle people to any physical animal species within what to themselves, and their entire population would be an exceptionally/utterly ‘alien’ landscape/environment!!!!

    What water source is acceptable for any specific animal type to safety drink ‘and’ where are the best places to find this type of water and which water places should it avoid, perhaps because the water is stagnant, poisonous or is the home of crocodiles?
    What type of environment is any particular animal species adapted to live within?
    What other animals/animal species are predators of the form that you are interfacing to ‘and’ how do those animals detect and or attempt to avoid these predators?
    What other animals or plants are poisonous if eaten or if specific parts are eaten or even just touched by your newly interfaced subtle form whom perhaps finds itself as a cat or a mouse or a hawk or a pigeon or a wolf or a sheep or a reptile or frog or slug or snake or rabbit . . .

You have to keep in mind here that the earths animal species in being base instinct, needs, drives and or hungers focused/orientated are then unlikely to have even thought of designing and then building ‘shelters’, nor are they likely to even have the concept of writing/keeping records, such that they won’t have got round to writing any handy reference books detailing all useful and or dangerous aspects of different types of flora and fauna.

In other words, no matter what animal form any subtle form/subtle being is interfaced to this subtle form (despite being intelligent) is at least initially very likely not going to have any clue what so ever about what for themselves can only be described as an exceptionally alien physical environment (at least compared to the one it’s ALWAYS LIVED IN and hence then is ‘perfectly’ adapted to) never mind of having absolutely no understanding of any/all aspects of the physical world/environment which could be directly or indirectly dangerous/damaging to itself when it becomes interfaced to any type of avatar . . .

” . . . HEY!!! does anyone know if ‘this’ plant can be safely eaten by my specific animal avatar?!?!?, . . . No!!! OK, well, I’ll see what it tastes like then, BUT I’ve already decided I’m going to call it ‘Belladonna’?!?!?! . . . “

Wouldn’t the earliest subtle to physical animal form interfacing efforts have as an ultra top priority to specifically focus on the well-being and hence then the health of the animal form the subtle being/spirit was interfaced to!!!!

How would the earliest interfaced to an animal form subtle settlers be facilitated to properly look after the animal form they have been interfaced to!!!!

Let me remind you that the subtle form never actually consciously ‘eats’ anything. It doesn’t have to because its subtle body naturally as well as automatically absorbs the resonances/frequency combinations that are ‘nutrition’ to itself directly . . . it might feel or otherwise be prompted to spend time in a more ‘nutritious’ environment if it ever felt that it was deficient of any resonance or frequency combinations . . . contrast this with it then finding itself interfaced to an animal that both has to directly spend time eating to take in ‘nutrition’ while also having to spend time finding what it needs to eat which is some cases might require it to hunt and kill other animal forms to do nothing more than STAY ALIVE!!!!

Can you appreciate the stark problems here!?!?!?!

Which is that you have a life form, which for millions of years has very, very likely, completely unconsciously, taken in nutrition in ways that are substantially equivalent to a plant or tree.

In other words, in that the subtle form automatically with no effort or thought, takes in it’s nutrition from its surroundings/environment, such that it’s actually exceptionally unlikely to even have conceptually contemplated any form of life having to hunt and then kill and or having to regularly spend time gathering food never mind then having to spend time actually eating/chewing/swallowing food too!!!! It’s actually likely that if any subtle philosopher presented these as ideas/concepts they’d be considered crazy/mad. How would a subtle form that found itself incarnated/interfaced to some species of animal now living in the physical survive under these conditions? How would it know what is appropriate for its avatar to eat, how would it know where to catch and or find the food it’s avatar needs?

How easy would it be for an immortal being that is very likely to have never ever needed to do anything to ‘maintain’ any aspect of itself, to actually cope/adapt when it finds itself living as an alien life form, that to just stay alive has to spend regular time likely each and every physical day actually having to hunt/kill and or otherwise acquire food that it then needs to spend time eating JUST TO STAY ALIVE!!!!

Unfortunately it’s even worse than I describe above, because sometime after having eaten food, it will also find that the alien body it’s occupying eventually feels compelled to disgorge/eliminate unused waste food products, which it must also somehow magically learn to do well away from its normal living/sleeping areas as well as its food and water sources, else, ‘IF’ it doesn’t, it’s then at risk of becoming ill!!!!

Hence then, based on the above, can you appreciate the sheer scale of the forever and ever and ever embedded habits relating to the . . . “never ever even needing to think about looking for, nor ever having to learn to identify nor then regularly having to spend time eating ANY food, never mind very specific types of ‘food’ nor has it ever had to find somewhere safe/remote to regularly eliminate toxic/unhealthy processed body waste” . . . PROBLEM!!!

In this respect wouldn’t all subtle forms being made ready to be incarnated into the physical have to have drummed into themselves during the ‘Getting Yourself Ready to be Incarnated’ orientation sessions they’d likely have to ensure that they were all made very, very, very aware of all of the physical life ‘problems’ that THEY WILL ALL BE FACING & WILL HAVE TO ADAPT TO else they’ll very rapidly find themselves facing a multitude of problems!!!

I personally cannot see how even if all earth colonist volunteers experienced having ‘rather a lot of earth physical life orientation’ sessions how these would adequately prepare them for the actual reality of living as some alien physical animal species while also having to learn to live within an exceptionally alien environment!!!! In fact, it seems very obvious to me that they absolutely must have consistent ‘subtle’ support/facilitators watching out for themselves while also if necessary regularly directly intervening and helping them and particularly to make sure that they avoid all sorts of health problems . . . .

Coincidentally on checking, we seem to have had RATHER A LOT of health Deities/Gods in our ancient past, whom are seemingly associated with pretty much every major culture including: African, Armenian, Aztec, Celtic, Chinese, Egyptian, Etruscan, Greek, Hindu, Hittite, Inuit, Japanese, Maya, Mesopotamian, Native American, Norse, Persian, Phoenician, Roman, Sami, Slavic, Thracian, Yoruba and Afro-American . . .
African Health Deities:

    Agwu, Igbo god of health and divination
    Jengu, water spirits that bring good fortune and cure disease
    !Xu, sky god of the Bushmen of southern Africa who is invoked in illness
    Osanyin orisha of herbalism

Well the first two above cover both health in general (i.e. what you should eat), herbal use for remedies when you get sick, as well as an up in the sky god on call for actual illnesses i.e. likely serious illnesses as well as physical avatar body damage!!!!
Chinese Health Deities:

    Wu Ben (Baosheng Dadi, the King of Medicine)
    Shennong, a mythical emperor who spread knowledge of herbs and medicine.
    Taiyi Zhushen, God of Qi
    Taokang Geyan, God of Essence
    Zhang Guolao, one of the Eight Immortals, whose wine was considered to have healing properties
    He Xiangu, one of the Eight Immortals, whose lotus flower improves one’s mental and physical health
    Li Tieguai, one of the Eight Immortals, who alleviates the suffering of the poor, sick and needy with special medicine from his gourd
    Wong Tai Sin, a god with the power of healing
    Jiutian Xuannü, goddess of war, sex, and longevity (long life), who is connected to calisthenics, diet, alchemy, neidan (inner alchemy), and physiology

Strangely we have 3 of the above Gods explicitly described as immortal.

Coincidentally, you reading this are an immortal subtle/spirit/soul form that’s currently interfaced to physical human animal form that unfortunately has an exceptionally limited lifespan at least when compared to ‘immortal’. Perhaps this is why we also have the idea/concept of reincarnation presented by many cultures here.

Conceptually, exactly what in physical terms could be passed from a now dead body such that it is then able to be reborn through another body such that for some people, they are able to access details of past life memories?

The first reference to reincarnation appears in the Upanishads (the sacred scriptures of Hinduism) about 2600 years ago.

Now for my own current incarnated life’s culture/environment (in the UK) in the distant past, as well as the rest of Europe (if not pretty much ‘everywhere’), it was all originally exceptionally dense mixed woodland, BUT primarily of oak!!!

In other words, early subtle to physical research and investigations with respect to understanding enough to start to interface people would have been completely focused on a dense forest habitat that was primarily of oaks . . . although there’d likely be less to no trees on more upland/higher altitude areas and possibly even no trees on mountain tops.

In that the first subtle settlers would be interfaced into this giant woodland then it is exceptionally likely that they’d have a lot of subtle ‘facilitators/monitors’ associated with all of the different aspects of the forest (which is mostly oak) as well as all environments and habitats/sub habitats associated with this forest canopy!!!

In that I’ve already pointed out on the previous page the being interfaced to an ‘isolated’ tree possibility, AND in that only recently has science actually become aware of the networks of tree roots and fungi species combinations providing a network connecting both the trees and the surrounding land/topsoil/biome it’s perhaps possible that some of the upper subtle colonisation facilitators would eventually think of interfacing to a well established tree AND use its root system and the surrounding biome to allow them to have a direct physical environment sensory awareness/presence over a very large area of forest. This would allow them to become aware of and to track all none interfaced animals and particularly any that were potential threats (hawks/eagles/owls/wolves etc) so they’d be able to give some pre-warning of these threats allowing them to make their interfaced people ‘magically’ aware of potential threats to themselves!!!!

If you do a search for “myths related to oaks, oak trees and forests” you get a lot of interesting information related to oaks specifically. For example, all of the major cultures of Europe held the oak tree in very high regard, in fact to many of the major early tribes the oak was the most venerated of trees, with the oak tree being sacred to Dagda, Zeus, Perun, Jupiter as well as Thor, although the Greek god Zeus and his wife, Hera, were known as the oak god and the oak goddess. Interestingly, many of these oak associated Gods are also described as having dominion/control over thunder, lightning and rain too!!!
The Gods (In or from the Sky/above) are then Described as Becoming the First Kings

In early myths/legends, the first ancient kings are described as actually presenting themselves as the (maybe now fully incarnated into flesh) physical personifications of these Gods, as apparently they are described as wearing crowns of oak leaves and are doing this very specifically to symbolise themselves as being the oak god they are now each representing as a king on Earth. There are also records that those loyal and or are successful in service to the king/the kingdom were also presented with crowns of oak leaves too.

In this respect the first subtle settlers that were interfaced into this giant mixed woodland would very, very, very likely have a lot of subtle ‘facilitators/monitors’ associated with all of the different aspects of the forest as well as all environments and habitats/sub habitats associated with these, such that they’d have subtle experts/facilitators on all the different habitat/environment areas such as streams and rivers as well as ponds and lakes . . . although you’d also have to have as experts/facilitators of the coastal areas, beaches and the sea too . . . you’d also have to have experts on all of the different plant and herb types as well as of all of the different animal species!!!!

Based on the above, you’d have subtle experts on plants and particularly herbs specific to different habitats, you’d have others whom are the experts on different animal species, you’d also very, very likely have specific subtle beings as ‘guardians/protectors’ who’d be ‘in the sky’ and monitoring and or over looking/facilitating the early physical settlers too . . .
Sky & Heaven Deities & Beliefs & the Above Location & Descriptions of Eternal Heaven Too!!!!

Many early cultures have a sky and or a heaven deity or deities. Despite that some have quite a few, there is often one specific deity that reigns over the others or is at least considered the most powerful. Sky deities can be masculine or feminine, for example Isis, Astarte, Ishtar, and Inanna whom often holding the title of the “Queen of Heaven”, although the same name was often applied to the Virgin Mary, along with various other features and attributes of ancient pagan goddesses.

A variety of religions describe heaven as being populated by angels, demons, Gods and goddesses, and/or heroes (in Greek mythology for example). Heaven is generally construed as a place of happiness, sometimes eternal happiness, however the consistent belief of most is that one enters heaven at the moment of death (which would equate to the time the ethereal spirit/soul form would be disengaged from the physical interfacing).

You might have noticed that I’ve highlighted the ‘eternal‘ word in the paragraph above!!!

Let me give you the definition of ‘ETERNAL’:

without beginning or end; lasting forever, always existing.

Now, just in case you don’t make the connection yourself then for a living form to be eternal would directly equate to that form being ‘immortal’!!!! Strangely despite the meaning of eternal being substantially similar/equivalent to immortal it doesn’t appear in either synonyms nor related words of immortal (nor vice versa)!!!

In early religions Heaven was described as a place far above the Earth in a “dark area/place” and more specifically it was considered a place where there were no stars. In other words it was considered a place much, much higher than and beyond the stars, such that you could no longer see them.

In other words these descriptions by and large describe a place that is conceptually above as well as separate from the easily observed physical Universe.

Departed souls (i.e. de-interfaced from a now dead physical body ‘souls’) are considered to undergo a literal journey to reach Heaven, in some cases this journey may involve hazards including the presence of entities attempting to prevent them/you from reaching Heaven. Strangely this directly implies impediments to you conceptually returning to the subtle reality/environment which is your natural originating place as it’s where your inert subtle body is lying somewhere while it’s interfaced to yourself.

In medieval times it was apparently popular to view ‘Heaven’ as a physical place above the clouds and that God and the Angels (let’s translate these terms as relating to the primary leader and the leaders most trusted/competent/knowledgeable advisors/facilitators of that culture) all of whom are considered to be above while also watching from above over ‘physical’ man.
The Eternal in the Subtle Strata Heaven & Ancient ‘Deities’ As Knowledgeable/Competent Subtle Forms Possibilities

Interestingly, about 2 and a half decades ago now, I directly, perceptually accessed what I later described as the subtle strata which I also conceptually viewed as ‘higher’ because it didn’t present anything dense, solid or fixed, i.e. there were no identifiable physical phenomenon or structures, everything was ‘energetic’, meaning that it was composed of just frequencies and resonances. In some ways, the subtle strata environment is somewhat equivalent to energetic plasma i.e. all phenomena within this strata are resonance/frequency based such that everything (unlike the physical) is always ‘obviously’ moving/in motion including the subtle life forms found there.

I became aware of the above because I was spending consistent time (as in up to 6 hours at a time most days) absolutely holding an unwavering passive intention on various internal physical body sensations, feelings in efforts to become completely aware of the origins of various (now completely resolved) debilitating issues (massive from before birth through early childhood trauma that resulted in a chronic bad stammer/speech block).

It was in doing this that I eventually become aware of the subtle/soul/spirit form of myself existing/present elsewhere.

In other words the causes/origins of the supposed physical, emotional ‘trauma’ issues I was trying to get to the origins of, in concerted efforts to understand and resolve these weren’t actually held within my easily observed physical body BUT were located within the body form that actually animates the human avatar vehicle, hence then in a conceptual sense, be aware that every time you drive your car, this is directly equivalent to what the ‘ACTUAL REAL YOU’ is doing right now with respect to the human vehicle/body you are using to read what is written here. I.e. you are not this human body, you are just the driver of it!!!!

So, we here/now find ourselves (at least in sense/perception/awareness terms) within a specific multiverse strata that in relative ‘vibration and frequency’ terms (at least compared to the strata where our/your subtle body is present now) is, very, very dense and slow, which coincidentally, also allows the base matter/particles of this specific multiverse strata to be attracted to each other, such that over long spans of time they congregate and coagulate, eventually resulting in stable physical universe macro phenomena such as suns, planets and moons . . .
Early Physical Strata Explorers Will Have to Adapt to having a Permanent/Continuous Day & Night Cycle

In that the subtle environment doesn’t present anything equivalent to a rotating planet going around the sun type of experiences then subtle forms won’t experience and hence then won’t be adapted to anything equivalent to a repeating for ever and ever LIGHT DAY TIME, DARK NIGHT TIME CYCLE somewhat then strongly indicating that the subtle population are unlikely to easily or automatically adapt to having a repeating forever and ever day and night cycle. Also, if they were initially interfaced to humans they’d also likely find the dark/cannot see ‘night’ cycle quite scary/difficult to cope with, particularly as in the ancient past, they’ve no light bulbs, no torches or candles either, all of which is yet another reason as to why it is seriously unlikely that they’d interfaced to a none night adapted human form rather than say a cat or an owl!!!!

In it being highly predictable that the earlier interfaced subtle beings would have trouble coping/adapting to more or less 8 hours or so of dark night time during the early trial and error interfacing efforts then they’d also likely try and figure out means to make a fire pretty quickly BUT they are also very likely to setup overhead, high in the sky night watchmen type Gods too . . .

Again an internet search makes me immediately aware that we have plenty of Night Deities & Night Gods, and again, many cultures (14) had these, including: Arabian, Aztec, Canaanite, Egyptian, Etruscan, Greek, Hindu, Iranic, Lithuanian, Māori, Norse, Polynesian, Roman & Slavic. Here are some descriptions of the Night Deities & Gods from a couple of these cultures . . .
Aztec Deities of Night Phenomenon

    Lords of the Night, group of nine gods, each of whom ruled over a particular night
    Itzpapalotl, fearsome skeletal goddess of the stars
    Metztli, god or goddess of the moon, night and farmers
    Tezcatlipoca, god of the night sky, the night winds, hurricanes, the north, the earth, obsidian, enmity, discord, rulership, divination, temptation, jaguars, sorcery, beauty, war and strife
    Tzitzimimeh, skeletal goddesses of the stars
    Yohaulticetl, lunar goddess known as the “Lady of the Night”

Some Greek Night Deities

    Achlys, primordial goddess of the clouding of eyes after death, the eternal night, and poison
    Artemis, goddess of the hunt who was commonly associated with the moon
    Asteria, goddess of nocturnal oracles and the stars
    Erebus, primordial god of darkness
    Hades, god of the underworld, whose domain included night and darkness.
    Hecate, goddess of witchcraft who was commonly associated with the moon
    Hypnos, god of sleep
    Nyx, primordial goddess of night
    Selene, goddess of the moon
    Thanatos, personification of death, twin brother of Hypnos and son of Nyx and Erebus

Let me point out some of the obvious subtle to physical incompatibilities/problems that at least some of the above Gods/Goddesses are specifically focused on with respect to the differences between the subtle form and its normal functioning and habits compared to pretty much any animal form it would be interfaced to which ‘coincidentally’ would have to be monitored and or be addressed and or involve adjustments and or direct interventions!!!!
The Immortal Interfaced to a SHORT Life Span Avatar Vehicle Dying at Night Problem!!!!

In reading about ‘Achlys, Primordial Goddess of the Clouding of Eyes After Death, the Eternal Night, & Poison’, above, then it seems to me that this Goddess is representing one of the physical population’s overseeing subtle forms that is specifically dealing with the de interfacing of the subtle form specifically from a recently dead avatar form that ‘maybe’ specifically dies during the night.

Although it’s also entirely possible that because the death of the animal form that you are interfaced would mean that you’d no longer receive signals from its senses i.e. such that you’d effectively then be IN THE DARK in eyesight/vision as well as other sense terms could then be accurately described as the interfaced subtle form experiencing an ‘Eternal Night’ i.e. it would receive zero physical sensory input!!!

This state would likely be quite scary and maybe also be traumatizing to the subtle form still interfaced to a now pegged out/dead animal, hence then you’d have a ‘God’ whose job would be to monitor the state of each interfaced animal form specifically for signs of death, so as to de-interface the subtle form as quickly as possible after the death of the vehicle avatar!!!!
The Subtle Form Interfaced to a Physical Animal Incompatible Sleep Duration Problem

In reading of ‘Hypnos, God of Sleep‘ in the above list, this reminded me that subtle beings only sleep about 10% of the time rather than about 30% of the time (relative to being awake) for physical animals such that the subtle forms will perhaps need to be adjusted/adapted with respect to finding themselves being interfaced to an animal form (any of them really) that in most cases would absolutely need to sleep a lot longer than they themselves are used to!!!!

However, after writing the above and thinking about this angle for a while then it seems to me that during the phase that the physical animal/avatar is asleep it would be possible for technologically competent cultures (via the interfacing) to divert the focus of consciousness/awareness away from the physical animal form perhaps to a VR of a subtle environment equivalent space where they could meet and or interact in equivalent ways to how they would have interacted in the subtle itself i.e. as ‘in the sky/flying/interacting’ subtle beings!!!
The Interfaced Subtle Leaders & Habitat Experts of Many Settlements Sharing of Knowledge Problem

It seems to me exceptionally likely that leaders, as well as many of the incarnated population leaders, facilitators and various ‘physical’ experts whom were then part of separate physical settlements would very likely have this type of facility specifically because it would allow all of those that were part of perhaps physically isolated settlements to meet up during the long dark/sleeping phase to discuss ‘whatever’ about the progress of the colony and more so to identify and or find ways to resolve any problems any of the individual settlements were having as well as perhaps helpful to resolve conflicts or potential that may arise between different cultures colonisation efforts.

In a sense those that were part of any the above ‘meet in a VR’ groups in the distant past would perhaps be those that ‘now’ experience lucid/conscious dreaming and or astral travelling. During which ‘people’ in these states often meet up with others and interact too!!!! In fact it seems very likely to me that ‘Asteria, Goddess of Nocturnal Oracles and The Stars’ could be the interfaced subtle form that was the facilitator/director of these types of ‘flying in the sky’ meetings/discussions trying to address problems or get advice based on others’ experiences . . . after all they are all interfaced into an exceptionally alien environment which is not only exceptionally different compared to their own, whilst also continually involving dangerous factors that are utterly alien to themselves such as predator <> prey scenarios, such as having to keep your avatar fed as well as watered as well as making sure you don’t have your avatar shit near any of your food or water sources etc . . . . either!!!!

Oracle: A priest or priestess acting as a medium through whom advice or prophecy was sought from the Gods in classical antiquity.

In this respect, both Asteria, Goddess of Nocturnal Oracles and the Stars as well as Selene, Goddess of the Moon, make sense to me as the interfaced subtle forms would very likely be guided by subtle facilitators/helpers (aka the ‘Gods’) to use the moon and the stars to both orientate themselves as well as to navigate and particularly during the night!!!
Early Physical World Pioneers Will Also Have to Be ‘Facilitated’ To Cope With Changing Seasons

The subtle environment in not being physical in the slightest never mind presenting planets won’t then ever present anything approximating ‘seasons’ i.e. fixed/regular periods/phases where all manner of things are consistently different and or are changing/in the process of changing . . . if you think about the physical seasons then they often determine cycles of life/growth/bounty and harvests as well as phases associated with a lack of many different types of food as well as of phases associated with death.

Also, for many animal species, there are seasonal phases related to fertility/propagation as well as then pregnancy and giving birth and also ‘death’. In other words it wouldn’t be long before those investigating earth world realise that the factor that would have the greatest detrimental effect on your interfaced population in terms of ‘survival’ with respect to the prevalence of food would be the seasons.

In that the seasons would mean feast and famine times and hence then be critical with respect to incarnating a significant number of people, at least more people than was natural or able to be supported by the natural/normal animal and or plant food supplies during any particular season . . . in that seasons would likely be the most detrimental, negatively impacting factor to those that were attempting to have a permanently interfaced population there would have to be subtle forms researching and also facilitating/guiding these already interfaced whom were part of the earlier efforts to understand these factors . . . in other words you can predict that there will be entire subtle teams dedicated to very closely monitor the early ‘permanently’ incarnated settlers as part of advising as well as helping them such that you’d perhaps expect different ‘in the sky’ support teams working to facilitate/advise them with respect to each of the seasons . . .

Interestingly we have a whole host of deities and personifications associated specifically with the different seasons.
List of Gods of the Winter Season

Coincidentally, here is the list of the different culture’s ‘Gods’ that in the past were associated with the season of ‘winter’, which coincidentally, seems to have significantly more Gods associated with it compared to any other season!!!!

    Beira, Queen of Winter, also Cailleach Bheur, a personification or deity of winter in Gaelic mythology
    Boreas (Βορέας, Boréas; also Βορρᾶς, Borrhás) was the Greek god of the cold north wind and the bringer of winter. His name meant “North Wind” or “Devouring One”. His name gives rise to the adjective “boreal”.
    Ded Moroz (literally “Grandfather Frost”), a Russian substitute of Santa Claus
    Father Winter – Albanian mythology[citation needed]
    Great Winter God (冬大神), of Ba Jia Jiang (The Eight Generals), originated from the Chinese folk beliefs and myths
    Hiems, the Roman personification of winter.
    Hine-Takurua Personification of the winter in Māori mythology and one Tamanuiterā, the sun god’s two wives
    Itztlacoliuhqui, deified personification of winter-as-death in Aztecan mythology
    Jack Frost
    Kheimon, from Greek kheima, a hora of winter, early ancient Greece
    Khione ((from χιών – chiōn, “snow”) is the daughter of Boreas and Greek goddess of snow
    Morozko, from a Russian fairy tale, translated as Father Frost
    Nane Sarma, Grandma Frost, Iranian folklore.
    Old Man Winter, personification of winter.
    Skaði (sometimes anglicized as Skadi, Skade, or Skathi) is a jötunn and goddess associated with bowhunting, skiing, winter, and mountains in Norse mythology
    Shakok the god of winter the North Mountain in Native American mythology
    Three Friends of Winter in Chinese art, the plum, bamboo and pine.

Spring time, (maybe the time of giving birth for many animal forms), has the next highest number of ‘Gods/Goddesses’ associated with it, followed by summer and then by autumn!!!
Easily Deduced Consequences of one Single Species Becoming Aware of a World Presenting Gazillions of Species/Life forms!!!!

It’s perhaps very conceptually important that you keep in mind that there is only ONE SINGLE LIFE FORM in the subtle environment.

In other words there are no other life forms other than the subtle beings/forms within the subtle environment. In this respect, in that the surface of the earth is literally teeming with an unbelievable variety of life then in ‘WOW/F***ING WOW’ terms it’s likely equivalent to a moth’s reaction to a bright light in terms of AMAZING/ASTOUNDING WONDERMENT!!!!

‘AND’ there are also very, very, many different types of physical life too . . . all intermixed and interacting . . . it’s hard to imagine their reaction to all of this beyond it seeming to be an unbelievable amazing wonder!!!!!

In that all of your subtle population will be interfaced to the developing fetus likely sometime before it’s going to be born AND that the birth of a now interfaced aka ‘intelligent’ form is in a foundation/base sense not only critical to your setting up an ‘earth’ civilisation plan BUT is also the most technically challenging then it’s very likely you’ll have one or more high up ‘in the sky’ subtle monitors/facilitators aka ‘Gods and or Goddesses’ overseeing this!!!!

In that the subtle forms are androgynous and hence then divide asexually to produce in most cases a twin of themselves AND in that in their own entire environment only hosts one life form (coincidentally THEMSELVES) then won’t those accessing and remotely viewing the earth environment be having their whole/entire conceptual viewpoint with respect to life, different life forms as well as ways of propagating, giving birth and or having offspring completely blown apart!!!!

In that the interfacing to a physical form would be their most technically difficult task AND would then be seriously focused on then I was expecting to find a lot of Gods related specific to the birth of an animal form . . . however, what I found wasn’t a lot of Gods and or Goddesses of ‘Birth’ BUT a whole host of Gods and Goddesses of FERTILITY . . . which to myself, didn’t make sense until I figured out the above.

I.e. you have single species population which coincidentally has absolutely no experience of ‘sexual’ reproduction whom also live in a energetic/resonance/frequency based environment that doesn’t in the slightest present anything equivalent to planetary seasons suddenly being confronted with a world teeming with many many completely different varieties of life forms never mind gazillions of individual species such that their the department of species/life forms AND all processes and aspects of all of the different types of life forms would ALL ON ITS OWN BE ‘MASSIVE’ . . . i.e. in this respect, ‘fertility’ isn’t actually really about ‘FERTILITY’ it’s actually about all factors related to the unbelievable . . .
>> ABUNDANCE OF LIFE <<

A single isolated species that has an entire reality to itself i.e. it is the ONLY SPECIES/LIFE FORM WITHIN ITS ENTIRE REALITY, suddenly gets access to a completely different parallel reality/environment that is teeming with literally gazillions of COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LIFE FORMS, ALSO OF MANY, MANY DIFFERENT TYPES all of which are also reproduce BUT often in many different ways, including ways that don’t involve the simple binary division/splitting into two of an organism!!!!

Hence then the definition of ‘fertile/fertility’ is a generic term for ALL OF LIFE as well as of ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS/MEANS OF REPRODUCING . . . MOST OF WHICH WOULD BE COMPLETELY ALIEN TO THE RESEARCHING SUBTLE FORMS . . .

Fertile (adj.): mid-15c., “bearing or producing abundantly,” from Middle French fertil (15c.) and directly from Latin fertilis “bearing in abundance, fruitful, productive,” from ferre “to bear,” from PIE root *bher- (1) “to carry,” also “to bear children.”

Hence then we have lots and lots of:
Gods & Goddesses of Fertility, Inclusive of Pregnancy & Birth

There are 33 Cultures presenting approximately 200 different deities related to fertility.

So, below are some examples of Gods & Goddesses of Fertility, Inclusive of Pregnancy & Birth just from the Greek and the Japanese cultures.
Greek Culture Fertility Deities

    Aphaea: Local goddess associated with fertility and the agricultural cycle
    Demeter: Goddess of the harvest, agriculture, fertility and sacred law
    Dionysus: God of wine, grapes, and festivity, associated with fertility, particularly that of the vine and males
    Hera: Goddess of the air, marriage, women, women’s fertility, childbirth, heirs, kings and empires
    Ilithyia (also called Eileithyia): Goddess of childbirth and midwifery, likely of Minoan or earlier origin.
    Pan: God of shepherds, flocks, mountain wilds, and rustic music; associated with fertility, particularly that of animals
    Phanes: primeval deity of procreation and the generation of new life
    Priapus: rustic god of fertility, protection of livestock, fruit plants, gardens, and male genitalia
    Tychon: A daemon imagined as a boy
    Persephone: Goddess of spring, Greek god of fertility

In checking out other cultures I’m also presenting the Japanese list here because their list is specifically inclusive of a ‘Deity of ambiguous gender’. Now in that ‘ambiguous’ is to be very honest a weird descriptor I checked the main wikipedia page, which was actually way, way less ‘ambiguous’ in that it uses the term androgynous i.e. it implies neither directly male or female but something that is fluid and hence then is more able to either one or the other . . . which is how subtle forms are ‘psychologically’!!!!
Japanese Culture Fertility Deities

    Kichijōten, goddess of happiness, fertility, and beauty
    Kuebiko, god of agriculture and knowledge
    Inari Ōkami, deity of fertility, rice, agriculture, foxes, and industry; this deity is of ambiguous gender and may be portrayed as male, female, or ambiguous
    Shinda, fertility god of the Ainu people

However, on becoming aware of the sheer scale of involvement of the Roman culture’s fertility Gods efforts whom seem to have been involved in every minute aspect of human reproduction, pregnancy, child bearing, childbirth as well as both baby and toddler and young child rearing efforts then these Roman Gods are listed/described too!!!!
The No Sexual Reproduction/No Newly Born Form, Self Dividing Twin Being Interfaced to a Handicapped Baby, then a Disabled Toddler Problem!!!!

What other Goddesses and Gods would you expect to have because the population has forever and ever and ever propagated by dividing itself such that the twins that result are then endowed with the history and hence then the memories and experiences of its parent/twin?

In other words, subtle forms that propagate by dividing themselves automatically then have the experience of their ‘split/parent’. As such they don’t then have any experience equivalent of being a newly born baby, nor do the newly divided subtle forms then have any experience being a toddler, nor a young child nor then the experience of being a teenager nor will they experience going through adolescence or puberty either!!!!

Now, just Imagine them having a physical newly human birth experience, which is going to have them perhaps being interfaced to a fetus in a womb for a time which after being born is then (at least for the human animal species) it is then going to find itself experiencing being a helpless baby for quite a long time too. It’s then going to spend time as a toddler and then more time as a very young child, after which it’ll reach puberty and become a teenager before then becoming an adult . . . all of which will be something of a mystery never mind perhaps considered bizarre and or super weird to a self dividing form that then becomes a duplicate of an identical twin.

So, with respect to all of the above, then when I first came across the God/Goddess of Childhood it took me a while (after an initial ‘WTF’ reaction) for me to figure out why these god ‘minders/facilitators’ would be necessary!!!!

Seriously, if we are a product of evolution and are then just nothing more than an animal form that naturally via instinct pretty much automatically propagates, gives birth, raises its young then WhyTF did we have ‘rather a lot’ of Gods all seemingly completely pre-occupied with all stages of human reproduction, including being sexual, being pregnant, giving birth, being a helpless baby and then going though childhood and VERY SPECIFICALLY, ALL OF THE ASPECTS OF ‘BEING BORN & GROWING UP’ THAT WOULD BE A COMPLETE MYSTERY TO OUR SELF DIVIDING SUBTLE FORMS!!!!

Hence below I’m giving a List of Roman marriage, birth and childhood deities all obsessed with some minute aspect of human reproduction and propagation!!!!
Roman Gods & Deities Apparently Ultra Obsessed with Sex, Conjugation & Getting Pregnant

The Gods of the marriage bed (di coniugales) are also Gods of conception. Juno, one of the three deities of the Capitoline Triad, presides over union and marriage as well, and some of the minor deities invoked for success in conceiving and delivering a child may have been functional aspects of her powers.

There are about 12 of these, here are few just to give you some examples of, to be honest all of the angles of ‘help’ the Gods were responsible for with respect to specifically helping subtle forms navigate absolutely all aspects of male and female animal form interactions, sexuality, courtship, marriage as well as sexual intercourse and even conception!!!!

    Jugatinus is a conjugal god, from iugare, “to join, yoke, marry.”
    Cinxia functions within the belt (cingulum) that the bride wears to symbolize that her husband is “belted and bound” (cinctus vinctusque) to her.[15] It was tied with the knot of Hercules, intended to be intricate and difficult to untie.
    Subigus is the god (deus) who causes the bride to give in to her husband in sexual intercourse.
    Prema is the insistent sex act, from the verb primo, primere, to press upon.
    Inuus (“Entry”), the phallic god Mutunus Tutunus, and Pertunda enable sexual penetration.
    Consivius is the god of propagation and insemination, from con-serere, “to sow.”
    Liber Pater (“Father Liber”) empowers the man to release his semen, while Libera does the same for the woman, who was regarded as also contributing semina, “seed.”
    Mena or Dea Mena with Juno assured menstrual flow, which is redirected to feed the developing child.
    Fluonia or Fluvionia, from fluo, fluere, “to flow,” is a form of Juno who retains the nourishing blood within the womb. Women attended to the cult of Juno Fluonia “because she held back the flow of blood (i.e., menstruation) in the act of conception.”
    Sentinus or Sentia gives sentience or the powers of sense perception (sensus). Augustine calls him the sensificator, “creator of sentience.”

Seriously, just read the above list a few times, then ask yourself WHAT THE FU** HAPPENED TO THE GRADUAL EVOLUTION OF ANIMALS THAT WOULD HAVE THEM DOING EVERYTHING AUTOMATICALLY SUPPOSEDLY BY INSTINCT SUCH THAT WHYTF WOULD THEY HAVE GODS SEEMINGLY INVOLVED IN EVERY ASPECT OF MALE & FEMALE RELATIONS!!!!

What a quaint idea it is that some actually imagine that we are nothing more than naturally evolved ‘animals’ which if true then they wouldn’t ever need to have their penis guided during intercourse by a God then would they!?!?!?

WhyTF would you have ‘Gods’ whom apparently have to be unbelievably knowledgeable about all human courtship, mating, intercourse and propagation factors when all of what they are obsessed with would for any animal be NATURAL BY INSTINCT!!!!
More Roman Gods & Deities Seemingly Ultra Obsessed with both Pregnancy & Giving Birth/Birthing

The primary deity presiding over the delivery was Juno Lucina, who may in fact be a form of Diana. Those invoking her aid let their hair down and loosened their clothing as a form of reverse binding ritual intended to facilitate labour. Soranus advised women about to give birth to unbind their hair and loosen clothing to promote relaxation, not for any magical effect.

There are then about 11 sub pregnancy/giving birth areas with one or more ‘deities’ facilitating each of these!!!!

    Egeria, the nymph, received sacrifices from pregnant women in order to bring out (egerere) the baby.
    Postverta and Prosa avert breech birth.
    Diespiter (Jupiter) brings the baby toward the daylight.
    Lucina introduces the baby to the light (lux, lucis).
    Vagitanus or Vaticanus opens the newborn’s mouth for its first cry.
    Levana lifts the baby, who was ceremonially placed on the ground after birth in symbolic contact with Mother Earth. In antiquity, kneeling or squatting was a more common birthing position than it is in modern times; see di nixi. The midwife then cut the umbilical cord and presented the newborn to the mother, a scene sometimes depicted on sarcophagi. A grandmother or maternal aunt next cradled the infant in her arms; with a finger covered in lustral saliva, she massaged the baby’s forehead and lips, a gesture meant to ward off the evil eye.
    Statina (also Statilina, Statinus or Statilinus) gives the baby fitness or “straightness,” and the father held it up to acknowledge his responsibility to raise it. Unwanted children might be abandoned at the Temple of Pietas or the Columna Lactaria. Newborns with serious birth defects might be drowned or smothered.
    Lucina as a title of the birth goddess is usually seen as a metaphor for bringing the newborn into the light (lux, lucis). Luces, plural (“lights”), can mean “periods of light, daylight hours, days.” Diespiter, “Father of Day,” is thus her masculine counterpart; if his name is taken as a doublet for Jupiter, then Juno Lucina and Diespiter can be understood as a male-female complement. Diespiter, however, is also identified in Latin literature with the ruler of the underworld, Dis pater. The functions of “chthonic” deities such as Dis (or Pluto) and his consort Proserpina are not confined to death; they are often concerned with agricultural fertility and the giving of nourishment for life, since plants for food grow from seeds hidden in the ground. In the mystery religions, the divine couple preside over the soul’s “birth” or rebirth in the afterlife. The shadowy goddess Mana Genita was likewise concerned with both birth and mortality, particularly of infants, as was Hecate.
    In contrast to the vast majority of deities, both birth goddesses and underworld deities received sacrifices at night. Ancient writers conventionally situate labour and birth at night; it may be that night is thought of as the darkness of the womb, from which the newborn emerges into the (day)light.
    The cyclical place of the goddess Candelifera, “She who bears the candle,” is uncertain. It is sometimes thought that she provides an artificial light for labour that occurs at night. A long labour was considered likely for first-time mothers, so at least a part of the birthing process would occur at night. According to Plutarch, light symbolizes birth, but the candle may have been thought of as less a symbol than an actual kindling of life, or a magic equivalent to the life of the infant. Candelifera may also be the nursery light kept burning against spirits of darkness that would threaten the infant in the coming week. Even in the Christian era, lamps were lit in nurseries to illuminate sacred images and drive away child-snatching demons such as the Gello.

Yet More Roman Gods & Deities Now Ultra Obsessed with Neonatal/New Born Baby Care!!!!

    Once the child came into the light, a number of rituals were enacted over the course of the following week. An offerings table received congratulatory sacrifices from the mother’s female friends. Three deities—Intercidona, Pilumnus, and Deverra—were invoked to drive away Silvanus, the wild woodland god of trees: three men secured the household every night by striking the threshold (limen; see liminality) with an axe and then a pestle, followed by sweeping it.
    In the atrium of the house, a bed was made up for Juno, and a table set for Hercules. In the Hellenized mythological tradition, Juno tried to prevent the birth of Hercules, as it resulted from Jupiter’s infidelity. Ovid has Lucina crossing her knees and fingers to bind the labour. Etruscan religion, however, emphasized the role that Juno (as Uni) played in endowing Hercle with his divine nature through the drinking of her breast milk.
        Intercidona provides the axe without which trees cannot be cut (intercidere).
        Pilumnus or Picumnus grants the pestle necessary for making flour from grain.
        Deverra gives the broom with which grain was swept up (verrere) (compare Averruncus).
        Juno in her bed represents the nursing mother.
        Hercules represents the child who requires feeding.
        Rumina promotes suckling. This goddess received libations of milk, an uncommon liquid offering among the Romans.
    Nundina presides over the dies lustricus, the purification day when the child was given a name (praenomen). This occurred on the eighth day for girls and the ninth day for boys, a difference Plutarch explains by noting that “it is a fact that the female grows up, and attains maturity and perfection before the male.” Until the umbilical cord fell off, typically on the seventh day, the baby was regarded as “more like a plant than an animal,” as Plutarch expresses it. The ceremony of the dies lustricus was thus postponed until the last tangible connection to the mother’s body was dissolved, and the child was seen “as no longer forming part of the mother, and in this way as possessing an independent existence which justified its receiving a name of its own and therefore a fate of its own.” The day was celebrated with a family feast.
    On the dies lustricus, the Fata Scribunda were invoked. The “Written Fates” probably refers to a ceremonial writing down of the child’s new name, perhaps in a family chronicle. To the Romans, the giving of a name was as important as being born. The receiving of a praenomen inaugurated the child as an individual with its own fate.

Even More Roman Gods & Deities Now Ultra Obsessed with Young Child Development!!!

In well-to-do households, children were cared for by nursemaids (nutrices, singular nutrix, which can mean either a wet nurse who might be a slave or a paid professional of free status, or more generally any nursery maid, who would be a household slave). Mothers with a nursery staff were still expected to supervise the quality of care, education, and emotional wellbeing of children. Ideally, fathers would take an interest even in their infant children; Cato liked to be present when his wife bathed and swaddled their child. Nursemaids might make their own bloodless offerings to deities who protected and fostered the growth of children. Most of the “teaching Gods” are female, perhaps because they themselves were thought of as divine nursemaids. The Gods who encourage speech, however, are male. The ability to speak well was a defining characteristic of the elite citizen. Although women were admired for speaking persuasively, oratory was regarded as a masculine pursuit essential to public life.

    Potina (Potica or Potua) from the noun potio “drink” (Bibesia in some source editions, cf verb bibo, bibere “drink”) enables the child to drink.
    Edusa, from the verb edo, edere, esus, “eat,” also as Edulia, Edula, Educa, Edesia etc., enables the taking of nourishment. The variations of her name may indicate that while her functional focus was narrow, her name had not stabilized; she was mainly a divine force to be invoked ad hoc for a specific purpose.
    Ossipago builds strong bones; probably a title of Juno, from ossa, “bones,” + pango, pangere, “insert, fix, set.” Alternative readings of the text include Ossipagina, Ossilago, Opigena, Ossipanga, Ossipango, and Ossipaga.
    Carna makes strong muscles, and defends the internal organs from witches or strigae.
    Cunina protects the cradle from malevolent magic.
    Cuba helps the child transition from cradle to a bed.
    Paventia or Paventina averts fear (pavor) from the child.
    Peta sees to its “first wants.”
    Agenoria endows the child with a capacity to lead an active life.
    Adeona and Abeona monitor the child’s comings and goings.
    Interduca and Domiduca accompany it leaving the house and coming home again.
    Catius pater, “Father Catius,” is invoked for sharpening the minds of children as they develop intellectually.
    Farinus enables speech.
    Fabulinus prompts the child’s first words.
    Locutius enables it to form sentences.
    Mens (“Mind”) provides it with intelligence.
    Volumnus or Volumna grants the child the will to do good.
    Numeria gives the child the ability to count.
    Camena enables it to sing.
    The Muses give the ability to appreciate the arts, literature, and science.

Can you think of any other phenomenon/circumstances that any upper/in the sky/heavens subtle monitoring forms whose job would be to monitor and then facilitate an incarnated into the physical population would then also warn them about?

Well won’t the next most potentially frightening and or dangerous unknown be bad weather in general and particularly destructive well as exceptionally frightening storms? In which case I’d expect that these will be the next most common although irregular phenomenon that subtle observers will look out for and then magically WARN/ADVISE their incarnated populations about!!!
Gods of Bad/Dangerous Weather, The Rain, Bad Storms, Wind & Thunder & Lightening, Hail & Snow

In other words it is very likely that early physical strata population colonisation efforts would have ‘in the sky’ atmospheric weather phenomenon monitoring systems, which in some cases would perhaps include regular weather forecasts as well as upper advice and in some cases help depending on how bad specific weather conditions/circumstances are ‘predicted’ to be. Hence then it’s not been much of a surprise to myself to find that not only do we seem to be a vast number of so called Gods of various bad weather phenomenon BUT there also seem to be a large number of Gods dedicated to very specific weather types/phenomenon, and this seems to be the case for many different cultures/peoples too.

GREEK-ROMAN Gods of the Weather:

    Zeus/Jupiter god of the sky, rain, lightning and thunder.
    Poseidon/Neptune god of sea storms.
    Iris is the goddess of rainbows.
    Fulgora the goddess of lightning.
    Aeolus is king of the winds.
    Aether god of the air.
    Tempestas is the goddess of storms.

Interestingly the following Gods unlike those above seem to be more ‘advanced’ as they appear to have figured out common associations with respect to different weather conditions and how they would or could detrimentally impact an incarnated into flesh population!!!!

NORSE Gods of the Weather:

    Þórr, is the god of ‘heaven’, thunder and also lightning & rain.
    Óðinn god of the sky and the wind.
    Freyr & Njörðr are both gods of rain, fertility and harvest and seasons.
    Ullr is the god of snow and winter.
    Þorgerðr & Irpa are both goddesses of hail storms.
    Rán is the goddess of sea storms.

A quick check reveals that there are many, many different cultures that all by and large have an equivalent mix of ‘weather’ Gods (depending on the climate of their population’s location), in fact all early cultures seem to have these BUT you’ll get the general idea of how ‘comprehensively’ the forecasts/early warnings are with respect to the different weather types of the two cultures I give above . . .

So, if you as an immortal subtle being, have actually been repeatedly re-incarnated again and again over a very long time span while also actually being someone whom in the very distant past was one of the overseeing/monitoring ‘facilitators’, then is it possible that under certain conditions you’d become aware of your past ‘facilitating’ experiences and perhaps particularly when you find yourself in a similar situation to what you, yourself monitored and or directly facilitated in the distant past!!!!!

Strangely, I’ve 2 web pages explicitly describing myself ‘Personally’ directly ‘interactively’ changing/directing the weather in seriously impossible ways . . . by interacting with what I actually directly named/called a weather God!!!!

    Directly Interacting with a Weather God or Air Sylph, & Dramatically Changing the Weather!!!
    An Example of Interacting, Directing and Changing the Weather at will

Coincidentally for years after this specific incident (which happened in my very late 20’s) I’d occasionally tune in and directly engage with the weather system and or air elemental/weather god form and pre order the weather a few days before I was going to be out walking in nature and more particularly for walks where I’d be with other people AND particularly as part of organised walks to give myself and others the opportunity to encounter/engage with different types of ‘nature’ spirits.

Strangely, these ‘requests’ were always carried out. In other words I always got the weather that I wanted!!!!
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    Clive
    December 24, 2019 @ 2:46 pm

    NEW PAGE: If you’re an expert in ‘observation’ then you’ll maybe notice when you finish reading this page that there is a consistent repeating pattern in that most/the majority of different cultures all each have gods that are all ‘by and large’ doing the same things . . . however, in utter violation of this pattern we seem to have many, many, many, many Roman gods obsessed with every possible angle of ‘Human’ courtship/marriage, then unbelievable micro detail re ‘intercourse’ then female ‘pregnancy’ then ‘giving birth’ then rearing a toddler and then bringing up a young child . . . I’ve also pointed out on this and previous pages that it’s EXCEPTIONALLY UNLIKELY that all cultures would use the same animal form to interface their entire culture too, it is in fact highly likely that they’d interface to many different earth animal types.

    In other words the unbelievable Roman gods detail focused on all angles SPECIFICALLY of the human animal behaviours/characteristics IS JUST FOR THE ROMAN’S . . . in then also checking up on ‘humans’ there are pages making it clear that the human species specifically is seriously considered by many to have been ‘VERY BADLY’ BIOENGINEERED in the past . . . although I’m ‘fairly’ sure that the Greeks used none bioengineered humans before the Romans.

    You can then deduce from the utter lack of similar human focused ‘gods’ for all other cultures (I’ve not found any yet) that the Romans not only used humans BUT they also (actually their subtle gods to be specific) bio-engineered/altered the base human specifically to SPLIT IT INTO SEPARATE MALE & FEMALE GENDERS . . . the androgynous evidence page on this site makes it clear that we’ve many males here presenting anomalous ‘pregnancy’ symptoms indicating that many people are actually not either male or female BUT are hermaphrodite i.e. the majority of people here are simulating someone that had both male and female organs/characteristics, hence then they’d also stand a fair chance of simulating someone that was pregnant and during the simulated phase this happened they’d likely present PREGNANCY SYMPTOMS!!!!.

    So, if you’re inclined, then have a think about these possibilities AND if you can think of or are already aware of any other angles of ‘anomalies’ related to ancient god’s that also don’t add up leave a comment here!!!!

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    Tommy
    December 25, 2019 @ 3:48 am

    I like this you did your homework well. The subtle form turning into a copy of something else. Have you read the Greek mythology origin story Clive? Basically there was only Khaos. Khaos then divided into Erebos Nyx Gaia Tartarus and Eros. Sounds like forms who split from the original form like subtle beings.

    I found your focus on Roman god funny because I always kinda dismissed that as well greek gods light or Greek gods for idiots. I assumed Roman gods were basically a mix and match of Greek Egyptian and probably left over Assyrian/Babylonian. You said you learned a lot because they looked over all the aspects of the child growing up so fair enough.

    What I find weird is I kinda expected you to dig around more in Babylonian/Assyrian mythology because the whole cycle of bullshit forced reincarnation crap kinda started there. You did mention Inanna Ishtar so I’m hoping you will look more into that.

    Your lack of researching Enki/Ninhursag kinda baffled me. They made the first animal form so they must know what was used as first ways of interfacing subtle forms was like. Myths said they made this animal form/meatprison. I also see Enki as the person would be like ow come join my civilization and pull the con.

    Hermes is a little chiwawa compared to Enki. whatever enki is its tricky and won’t speak honestly. It’s hard to sort out fact from myth. What I find hard is you would expect older subtle forms who reincarnated and know more to be benevolent and watch out of the the new ones little ones but they ruthlessy exploited them for their own temporary gains and games.

    Clive I told you a bunch of times go check Babylonian mythology it’s a hunch of mine you might find more about the original interfacing method and the creation of the human animal form.

    I think that if you figured out the blue print and the fuckery that happened afterwards you might unfuck stuff a little faster I might be wrong. I would call out those ancient pricks the subtle ones and the “god forms” like tf did you do tf you guys gonna undo it.

    Your more tactful then me Clive I’m not the type who is gonna be diplomatic a little give and take a little non judgmental I will preach scream whine and curse. Then fold the moment they offer me something better I’m too easy to corrupt. Ahahahahahaha anyway happy hunting and a merry Christmas.

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        Clive
        December 25, 2019 @ 6:16 pm

        Hi Tommy (/everyone read!!!), Hhahha . . . well thanks for the feedback, I wasn’t expecting any quick response given current date/time of year!!!!

        You shouldn’t be surprised as to the specific God’s I’ve focused on, because this page is the third page (so far) of a series trying to give evidence of our very different subtle form/species that is from a very, very different ‘IN THE SKY’ environment being interfaced to a very different physical form to live in a very, very different surface of a physical world environment. . . which I explicitly pointed out at the start of the page above in the second paragraph:

            ” . . . these repeating patterns eventually had me realising that . . . absolutely ‘everything’ that is significantly different IN ANY WAY between the subtle form and any avatar/animal form it may find itself interfaced to as well as of any and all differences between the subtle environment and the physical environment and particularly the day in day out, as well as any LONGER TERM embedded habitual experiences of all subtle forms (whom in most cases will have been around for 10’s of millions of years) are then very likely to cause serious problems with respect to them adapting to being incarnated into what would be an utterly/exceptionally different i.e. completely alien physical environment while also being interfaced to and hence then being ‘represented’ by, an exceptionally, utterly different ‘alien’ animal vehicle/avatar life form which compared to the immortal subtle form is exceptionally short lived never mind that how most physical forms propagate/reproduce (to be quite explicit) is also utterly absolutely/different compared to how subtle forms propagate too!!!!”

        So, in checking out God’s I’ve then basically noticed and then pointed out that a lot of God’s OF VERY SPECIFIC THINGS (whom are actually all subtle beings) have very specific jobs/tasks/roles which are coincidentally all focused on helping/supporting the newly interfaced subtle people/population to cope and or adapt to absolutely everything that is ‘DIFFERENT’ compared to what they will have all personally experienced for likely many millions of years . . .

        . . . ‘AND’ in doing this and in listing/pointing out these god’s specifically it’s then very obvious that lots and lots of gods are all focused on the very same ‘problem’ areas which are also very, very common to the majority of all cultures here too.

        So, here’s something for you to think about Tommy (if you want to help), some interfaced animal forms in the very distant past will have lived in very different ways compared to HOW WE ALL ARE AS HUMANS ‘NOW’ . . . for example, I’ve noticed in the past that archaeologists/historians have pointed out that we’ve had so called humans living in caves close to the top of very high sheer cliffs, while conveniently not explaining why they’d live there nor how they’d climb up or down etc!!! One Native American tribe we’ve now just myths of Thunderbirds actually massive birds, I’m also sure that a South American culture was also some large bird species too . . .

        So, a community that is exclusively of ‘flying’ bird type creatures is likely to present ‘clues’ of what they are . . . with respect to common God’s they don’t have or extra God’s that are common to other cultures!!!

        Another similar angle, is that we’ve also a lot of supposed underground cities that we are told were supposedly populated by ‘humans’ too . . . however, it likely that they’d actually in the distant past be actually populated by badgers, moles, rabbits or Meerkat’s or ????!!!

        In which case, what specific ‘God’s’ would you expect these flying in the air species or the burrowing living underground species cultures to either ‘have’ that would be specific to them OR to not have because being up a cliff or underground they’d not need one of the commoner ‘support’ gods???

        For example I noticed that god’s of the night were missing for some specific cultures, which seemed to me to possibly indicate that those cultures might have used species that lived underground such that in them then having an animal permanently adapted to living in the dark they’d not need a god of the night to hold there hand when it’s dark!!!!

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        Also, the list of Roman pregnancy, giving birth, baby minding, young child god details etc. etc. etc. . . . ALL IN ULTRA FINE DETAIL . . . is actually all very, very specific to the ‘CURRENT’ human animal form type!!!!

        So, the ‘fact’ that other cultures don’t have the same lists as the Roma’s coupled with the fact that there is a lot of evidence/belief that in the distant past that humans we’re engineered/bioengineered means that this bio engineering was very likely done by the Roman ‘Gods’ . . . basically I’m VERY certain that all earth animal forms in the very distant past were all ‘hermaphrodite’ i.e. they absolutely all had both male and female sexual organs i.e. EVERYONE WAS BOTH MALE & FEMALE, this makes sense as it would be the best form for the subtle forms to have to interface to as it would allow them to have both full male/female PERSONA/PERSONALITY EXPRESSION in one body form . . . the Romans split the ‘hermaphrodite’ human and engineered a separate male and female form hence they’d ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE LOADS & LOADS & LOADS OF GOD’s supporting people to get used to them now being in a form that was now either male or female i.e. NOT BOTH . . . In that all none Roman cultures don’t have the same, going on and on and on lists of god’s supporting the half a human either male form or female form only monstrosity, this means that it was ONLY THE Romans that did this!!!!

        Let me point out that if we are simulating copied people that we’re not either male or female BUT we’re both then there would be an unbelievably common as well as VERY OBVIOUS and consistent anomalous experience that would be very, very common to male humans here which is that if what I write above is correct then they would have experienced being pregnant BUT here they cannot ‘naturally’ become pregnant BUT if they are simulating someone that did they’d very likely then actually present some symptoms of being pregnant (despite that they are not).

        In other words the symptoms of the condition called ‘sympathetic pregnancy’ are exactly what you would expect to have presented here ‘IF’ we are all accurately simulating being a hermaphrodite animal form here. Interestingly, studies have shown that this condition is presented in over 20% of the male population in the UK and over 30% of the male population in Australia. Both of these studies only recorded the OBVIOUS pregnancy symptoms and dismissed those that presented just a few or minor symptoms, hence then 20/30% is likely a ‘conservative’ under estimate of the prevalence of this condition.

        The soul-healer.com page going into these weird areas/angles in more detail can be found here: Deducible: Coincidences & Synchronicity’s as Evidence of a Technology Slow Down, of ‘Twin’s’ Living Parallel Lives & of many Humans being ‘Hermaphrodites’

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    Tommy
    December 26, 2019 @ 9:59 am

    Clive mate there is something messing with our communication something that causes the wires to be crossed. I don’t know as much as you do. You were going on about the “Roman deities” did some shenanigans with the human animal form.

    That they did some tinkering with the human animal form. That isn’t the first time that something like that happened with the human animal form. The reason why I keep whinging to you about those Sumerian Akkadian deities is because I think that the shenanigans with bioengineering fuckery started there.

    I remember reading something about the changing of the deities after a war and there was another round of bioengineering shenanigans happening in Egypt.

    There was also some fuckery going on in Atlantis they tried to undo some tinkering but they turned into power hungry twats and fucked everything even more. I do not know which of those happened first that’s up to you to find out ahahahahahaha.

    So recap fuckery in Rome you found but there were more rounds of fuckery before and if they fucked around with human form they prolly also fucked around with the subtle form a bunch of times.

    All the other stuff you wrote made sense you just didn’t go as far back as I told you. Thunderbirds where really weird spiritual creatures they had to do with the Heyoka basically where the thunderbird and the heyoka came from everything was inverted. Go read the legends

    And the whole gods were representing different animal forms I remember Hawaiians had a shark god so there might have a population of subtle beings interfaced to sharks I guess.

    Guess the aboriginals were pretty on the ball also their chief deity was a snake called rainbow snake. Subtle form rainbow cloud? Rainbow snake Pretty clever if you ask me.

    The snake this is why I have been bitching about Ea enki that was his symbol. According to the mythology there is a myth he had a contest with his wife Ninhursag and he made the human animal form this is why I whine. I was scared af just when I was gonna post it my iPad died and I was hoping the comment I wrote wasn’t lost.

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        Clive
        December 26, 2019 @ 4:49 pm

        Ahhh, OK, Tommy I’d not worry about it in fact I’m surprised there hasn’t been more comms ‘sabotages’ recently (given the competence of current shit!!!!).

        The main problem is that the EAAS is an ‘everyone ‘significant’ is now living on a single’ world i.e. they are all now on ‘EARTH/one world’. Where as, the original incarnated physical population is in another MV (the one that originated this/our FU EAAS one) which had the entire populations of all races/cultures spread out throughout 4/5 galaxies space/distance populating many, many different planets/physical colonies . . . so, the Egyptians got so pissed off with shenanigans/shit from other cultures that they packed up and moved to a new multiverse (they figured out how to generate one) ‘and’ they also managed to figure out how to copy/paste there main habited world to the new MV too.

        So, in physical single planet terms now representing many planets populations all being presented on a single world then in a sense ‘symbolically’ each ‘worlds’ population on Earth could be thought of as being represented by an island . . . hence the Atlantis legend here of an island sinking i.e. ‘disappearing’ . . . which is representing the Egyptian’s moving there central ‘home’ world via some intermultiverse scale of some removals/transportation ‘magic’ effort!!!

        So, I’ve two problems when writing one is trying to figure out WTF was actually going on within the original MV while also then trying to figure out how to ‘frame/shrink’ anything going on within the original entire MV that’s now all being badly mangled because it’s being presented on the surface of our single world here!!!!

        . . . ‘AND’ . . . from the above, in a sense I’m trying to figure out what is SPECIFIC TO HERE, i.e. what was/is being DONE HERE within our EAAS that wasn’t done in the original MV, specifically because it’s part of the agenda of ‘here’!!!

        So, based on the last few weeks thinking/figuring out efforts I’m pretty sure that ‘humans’ weren’t used specifically by the Roman’s in the original MV, they were used by some other cultures, ‘and’ the ‘bio-engineering’ to split the dual sexed human into male and female just happened here . . . as part of making things as difficult as possible for as many people as possible here!!!!

        In other words, they likely used the human form here because other ‘TOP’ cultures used the human form (maybe even just for their leaders) to then split it into male and female FOR EVERYONE HERE to make life here as difficult as possible for these leaders/everyone else all being forced/all finding themselves all using a human body when in most cases this wasn’t the physical body animal form they originally used AND even if they did use it, it’s now been engineered to only have half the features i.e. it’s only either male or female here . . . rather than both . . . it’s a way of causing as many problems as possible for the greatest number of people ‘HERE’!!!!

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        Clive
        February 13, 2020 @ 11:22 pm

        Tommy/Melissa??/Update Everyone . . . well, despite definite ‘progress’ (at least for some) ‘some’ are still being contained . . . however I then remembered and started to watch the Dollhouse series as in a sense we’ve been focused on what is constructing and maintain our persona/personality (and accompanying trauma) and the Dollhouse in a sense actually ‘imprints’ people with bits from others ‘persona/personalities’ . . .

        Now, ‘Tommy’ who leaves comments here has had DH shit/imprints applied to himself and Tom (a friend of mine and our best ‘shit’ hacker has too) I was specifically thinking of him/Tom as likely actually being a version of ‘Victor’ of the Dollhouse people (whose a shell shocked soldier) specifically because Tom in exploring past lives was Lord/Admiral Nelson (who lost an eye and got arm shot off in battle) . . . so it wasn’t much of a surprise towards the end of the series when ‘Victor’ is reverted back to his real self he them introduces himself as Tommy/Tom!!!!

        So, Tommy/Melissa and or anyone else that has ‘vibes’ re the Dollhouse do the first focus below a couple of times and then the 2nd one . . . which will likely help speed up current efforts!!!!

        FOCUS TO TARGET DOLLHOUSE ‘WARE/IMPRINTS/ARCHITECTURE’ FOCUS:

         . . . . I connect to any subtle and or physical neural architecture, any persona imprints and or anything similar and or equivalent and or any/all supporting/protecting/maintaining structures and or any data/systems/sub systems designed to and or that would react against/block/negate any efforts to investigate any aspect of the neural architecture/imprinted personas/persona fragments and or anything/everything the architecture and or dollhouse ‘tech/ware’ is dependent on and or anything that is keeping anything/any of this and or the architecture/anyone’s/any combination of peoples architecture and or any persona/persona fragments inaccessible/secure and or immune to any direct and or indirect investigation/investigations and or alteration/reversion efforts . . .

        . . . and ‘best’ focus to help get to any shit still fighting to retain trauma and or debilitating personality/persona aspcets etc after doing the above is:

        1. FOCUS TO TARGET ANYTHING MAINTAINING TRAUMA &/OR BLOCKING/SABOTAGING EFFECTIVE TRAUMA RELEASE EFFORTS

        . . . I connect to any components/combinations of components that have been, are now and or that would in the future contribute to negatively/detrimentally define any external/environmental circumstances and or what people are doing/made to do specifically to negatively/detrimentally impact/shock and or otherwise traumatize and or maintain trauma/block trauma releases and particularly by having myself/anyone repeatedly negatively impacted/disturbed/shocked/traumatized by having memories of shit past circumstance/situations/experiences recycled and or made consciously or unconsciously disturb/distract and or pre-occupy myself and or make me reactive/sensitive to current and any recalled similar past circumstance/situations/experiences/impacts and or use these to generate any imagination/imaginings/pre-occupations relating to these/any combination of these and or anything that has been, is now and or could in the future prevent me from becoming aware of and or of accurately identifying or describing anything of any shit systems/sub system and or there networking factors/activators and or functioning combinations and or anything else IMPORTANT and particularly anything specifically contributing to make it as difficult as possible for me to accurately define/describe and or then directly/target anything/any type of shit including the variety and or means/sophistication of functioning/tactics of any ‘shit’ components and particularly to make it difficult for me/us to effectively hack/tame/bring under control any and all shit versions . . . and particularly any ‘shit’ systems/versions that have been and are now contributing to sabotage/debilitate/get me and or diversify/modify themselves/their ways of functioning and or tactics because of what I am doing now . . . !!!!

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    Megan
    December 27, 2019 @ 8:19 am

    So then are the myths and legends of the ancient gods we know of here in the EAAS all a part of the agenda to make these beings look bad? Is the fact that they are labeled ‘Gods’ (I tried to find it, but I believe that Rose left a comment stating that there were no Gods,) just another one of those FU efforts of the subtle leaders and those who followed and relied on them kind of like the Game of Thrones thing you mentioned in a previous comment?

    I’ve done some research of the ancient deities of Ancient Greek and Roman in the past, and like Tommy has pointed out, most of them were self-absorbed, jealous pricks. The legends of Medusa and Arachne from Ovid’s Metamorphoses come to mind.

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    Megan
    December 28, 2019 @ 5:16 am

    From the book “The Spirit World” by the editors of Time-Life books. Copyright 1992

    Page 14:

    “For some tribes, the powers that control the universe and all its beings take the form of deities. In other cultures, the powers have no defined shape or form but are simply mystic energies.”

    Page 53-54:

    “In the beginning, Indian legend affirms, animals and humans spoke the same language. The animals took care of the humans, bringing them fruit, vegetables, and water to drink. During the winter, when the food was scarce, they even sacrificed their own flesh so that the humans would survive until spring brought new life to the land. Using their innate ability to predict changes in nature, they would inform the humans of coming storms or seasonal shifts in the weather so that the necessary preparations could be made. In time, however, people began to enslave the animals and abuse them…The humans also set animal against animal…Worst still, humans robbed the animals, snatching their winter stores of food. Eventually, the animals tired of the mistreatment and punished the ungrateful humans by going off to live by themselves and refusing to speak the same language. People were left to fend for themselves.
    “Despite the rift that developed between animals and humans, the bond between the two groups remained strong in the context of legend and lore – so strong, in fact, that Native American languages do not even have words to distinguish the concepts human and animal. Early in the 20th century, when an outside asked the Achumawi people of California what their word was for animal, he was told they did not have one. When pressed, they could only offer a phrase meaning “the beings that are world-over, all-living,” a description encompassing humans as well as animals- and even rocks, which the Achumawi also believed were alive. The Achumawi did have a term for people of European descent, however, a word signifying tramps. From the perspective of the Achumawi, the Europeans seemed to be divorced from the natural world and its creatures and thus appeared homeless.”

    Page 68

    “So close was the bond between humans and animals that many Native American legends told of creatures who formed clans of their own in hidden camps or villages, where they returned to live after they died of natural causes or were killed. Within these villages, the animals removed their fur and feathers and looked and acted like humans. ‘The greatest peril of life lies in the fact that human food consists entirely of souls,’ explained an Iglulik hunter of the Far North in the 1920s. ‘All the creatures that we have to kill and eat, all those that we have to strike down and destroy to make clothes for ourselves, have souls, souls that do not perish with the body’.”

    A lot of Indian creation myths involve water. Is water symbolic of something found in the subtle, like the various energies there itself that the subtle body relied upon for nourishment, or something else?

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    Shalin
    February 14, 2020 @ 1:17 am

    Clive, I dont have the DH effects that Tommy describes but I have had thousands of body invasions since I was 14 years old (DH or real entity?) and I often felt as if something about my persona/behavior changed drastically starting somewhat in university but accelerated after graduating from university around the age of 24-25 and continued into adulthood.

    Did I change because of negative life experiences/traumas/stressors/mental-tensions and/or was it also due DH imprints? I know I am still 100% contained in my SHIT. I’ve been doing the trauma/trt release focus AFTER setting an intention to connect to my original kidnap/torture circumstances but I don’t notice any changes/improvements.

    Perhaps a full understanding of my situation hasn’t yet occurred AND/OR I have the DH imprints AND/OR something ENTIRELY DIFFERENT that has NOT yet been discovered/understood by you/Tom/Matt/Those-Outside?

    When I do the trauma/trt release focuses after setting the intentiion to connect to my original kidnap/torture circumstances I got very brief references to:

    a) electrocution
    b) the christian cross (was I tied to a cross?)
    c) drowning &
    d) being tied up

    I don’t know if I got those insights/ideas BECAUSE of AUTO-SUGGESTION of you telling me that my original form was kidnapped/tortured or whether they are actually relevant to my circumstance?

    I didn’t get any Virtual-Reality related insights this time.

    I also got the following:

    1) reminder of 2 incidences when I was a young kid:

    a) one where I was walking home from school and for some reason I decided to take another route home. As I was walking 2 guys who looked like rockers (this was early 1980s) made an attempt to grab me. I never ran faster in my life. I pressure they were just teasing/messing with me because I must have been 6-7 years old and they could have nabbed me if they actually wanted to.

    b) The second incidence occurred at a friends house where my friend, my little sister and I were behind my friend’s apartment building complex playing. Again, 2 guys who looked like rockers came up to us and they told my sister and my friend to go home and for me to stay as if they wanted to kidnap me. We ran like crazy. Again, they probably were just messing with us as an adult could have easily caught a 6-7 year old kid.

    2) reminder of the 1980s tv show in America/Canada called *Unsolved Mysteries* that showed all sorts of strange unsolved murders/kidnappings/ghostly-hauntings/ETs and other mysteries that were *unsolved*.

    3) reminder of what happened to Leslie Mahaffy, Kristen French and Tammy Homolka, all teenage girls (my age) in St.Catherines/Burlington Ontario about 1 hour from where I lived in Toronto who were kidnapped, raped, tortured & murdered by Paul Bernardo & his wife Karla Homolka. Turned out that Paul Bernardo was also a serial rapist in that part of Toronto where my family lived.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bernardo
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Leslie_Mahaffy
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kristen_French
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Tammy_Homolka

    I don’t know the significance of any of the above as it relates to me and/or my original form’s kidnap/torture circumstances.

    I believe whatever has me LOCKED down is PREVENTING me from becoming aware of anything significant/instrumental that would HELP reveal & release any/all traumas/persona/behavior/beliefs/trts.

    It could be DH imprints and/or what I mentioned earlier – SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT that you guys have not yet discovered/understood.

    I will do the DH focuses NOW as well but maybe its worth having a chat with your mates on the outside &/or Tom/Matt about my situation.

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        Clive
        February 14, 2020 @ 2:08 am

        I’ll have a think Shalon, the only other thing I know is that the capture/torture happened on ‘Deep Space Nine’ which was an all cultures/weird animals species trading station set up by the SNV’s as a cover for spying/mischief and likely then inclusive of abductions of ‘key’ people!!! Now as this is a physical space station everyone will be wearing an animal avatar and I’ve mentioned to you before that I’m suspicious as to the regurgitation?!?!?! type symptoms/effects you experience perhaps being because of the animal species you were?!?! You’d not try and hold down a fish under water would you!!!! Ah, do not some species of animal bring up there stomach contents to rechew/digest again, it’s possibly a very weird species that we don’t have here. Problem is that I’ve not watched very much DS9 so I cannot remember the types of species they had!!!

        Ahh, in the distant past I made up a picture of some film aliens:

        Sifferent Startrek/other films 'animal' type aliens

        Tortoise top right, some reptiles, lions a snake woman . . . on checking snakes (maybe ‘reptiles’ then), owls and a lot of birds regurgitate

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            Megan
            February 14, 2020 @ 3:11 am

            He could possibly be a wolf as well. Taken from this article, https://getpocket.com/explore/item/a-very-old-man-for-a-wolf?utm_source=pocket-newtab

            “Eventually, both parents would return to the hunt, bringing food back in their bellies, which they’d throw up as a steamy stew for the pups to eat—a technique biologists call “regurgitative provisioning.”

            On a side note, I’ve been reading a book written by an Oglala Sioux man, and the way he describes how Midwest Native American’s lived back in the day, they sound like they would be either wolves or coyotes in the way they moved around and hunted. Although at one point, when the author was talking about how they were corralled on reservations and sent to missionary school, it reminded me of wild horses and how they are often corralled and broken by cowboys to behave and be useful.

            I’m positive though that the Karok, Yurok and Hupa tributes of the Northwestern US are bears. I was looking at a few pictures and I could just see a bear in my mind in the way they sat and in they way they fished.

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            Tommy
            February 14, 2020 @ 3:15 am

            Hey Clive sorry not a lot of updates from my side did do a lot the of last and I did a lot of the older focuses the last days.

            I got nothing substantial to share with you guys. I have a mate crashing on the couch but I suspect he’s being used to feed me new/different trauma shit.

            I’m looking like a overweight raccoon with thinning hair. I’m having a gut like a pregnant woman. Same old same old tinnitus voices purple energy field when I close my eyes. That lock jaw you described happened like 2 nights in a row I woke up it snaps then I go back to sleep.

            I do feel a lot of messing around with my spine. Lots of weird stuff happing with my spine it’s like somehow it is tied to others. I brushed up on my knowledge about Tibetan Buddhism. I somehow feel their is more to the symbolism then I’m understanding.

            Also looking into the work of mister jung with the subconscious. I did read the main book of him at my ex but it’s been four years.

            Also read a book about Russian nanai shamanism because their mostly known for healing. What’s weird though is you gotta keep worshiping/feeding those spirits else you get sick again. If you don’t listen to those spirits they kill you. If you don’t pay the shaman so he can get sacrifices they kill the shaman and reverse the healing. At the end of the book this afternoon I got kinda scared I couldn’t place it.

            My mate on my couch will be gone in like 5 hours. So I will do the new focussen then. He’s gone in the mornings usually back in the evening. Then he goes out after dinner again till late.

            Clive couldn’t it have been a vr kidnap/torture? Like eh Altered Carbon. That something along the lines of that happened to shalin.

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    Shalin
    February 14, 2020 @ 3:38 am

    Clive, the symptoms I describe MAY BE a *red herring* in that they could mislead/misdirect you/anyone trying to help. Not a guarantee but it has mislead a lot of people in the alternative medicine space as my symptoms sound very similar to what is already in their diagnosis tool kit and so they arrive at a diagnosis and follow the treatment protocol for that diagnosis BUT are then shocked that I’ve had no improvements and instead experience all sorts of other side effects/aggravations.

    To me the root could be either any one of the following or any combination of these:

    a) Liver/Gallbladder energetic structure has become severely imbalanced (i.e. YANG>>>>YIN) – All of TCM, Ayurveda and Tibetan Medicine identify severe Liver imbalance by inspection of my tongue and pulse. Other organ systems are off too (i.e. Spleen/Kidney) but Liver is the root.

    b) Energetic blockages in abdomen causing counterflow of energy

    It could be #a, #b or both. As such, both #a &/or #b are likely preventing the liver energy from flowing as it normally would and is then STUCK/CONGESTED/BLOCKED.

    Liver is the seat of emotion/stress as they say in TCM/Ayurveda/Tibetan medical system so no surprise that it could be F’d up given all my traumas/extreme-emotions/stress/mental-tension I have had.

    As such, since the liver qi/energy cant flow, it over heats the liver and generates internal wind/gas. As such my entire abdomen is a giant balloon of air but especially bulging out with wind/air on the right side below my right rib.

    Since gas/wind normally rise most of it comes up and as it comes up it takes/carries with it the bile/enzymes/gastric fluids from the stomach into my throat/nose/mouth/lungs. This is an every second of the day/night process – has not stopped since it started in Apri/2015.

    The energy/heat also rushes up to my head making it as if my head is going to explode. Raises my blood pressure as well.

    So it may not be related to the animal form I may have been in my original form during my kidnap/torture circumstance.

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        Clive
        February 14, 2020 @ 4:03 pm

        Actually Shalin, all your symptoms are all related to a symbolic ‘Dragon’ type animal conversion!!!!

        Basically, a Dragon (representing an subtle to physical form interfacing expert), it’s flaming breath is, in a sense symbolically representing the many many subtle interfacing lines between the subtle form and the physical form it’s interfacing to with signals pulsing up and down these (imagine they are red pulses) hence then it’s presented as a dragon having red and ‘fiery’ breath!!!

        In other words, the dragon form is used to ‘represent’ someone with a an extremely sophisticated/automated subtle tech interfacing kit that allows them to easily interface to any animal form, which here has had you converted in a symbolic sense to having the dragon’s ‘hot’ breath/emissions in physical form, which is why none of your symptoms make any sense and why no ‘therapy’ works as it’s all made up!!!

        Unfortunately, the SNV lot don’t like competent subtle people and particularly auto interfacing experts because they then have a lot of experience of the subtle and the physical and of interfacing to likely many different animal forms. I.e. in a reality where there is a massive effort to explain everything in ‘physical/materialistic’ terms these specific people are seen as a threat!!!

        Hence you have all of the tales from medieval times of ‘knights’ specifically on quests to kill off dragons!!!!

        It’s no different today!!!! I’ve noticed that specific animal species that very much seem to me to be ‘representing’ the dragon form such as fox’s, pheasants and maybe even the red squirrels (as they all have symbolic ‘flame’ tails) are all being specifically targeted. For example the first two (the fox and pheasant) are all being regularly shot at killed/culled while pheasant’s specifically have their ‘heather/heath moorland/brush’ habitat regularly set on fire/burnt too . . . while red squirrels in the UK are it seems being regularly attacked by grey squirrels while also being killed off by a virus spreading from the grey squirrel, which the grey form is immune to.

        I’ve done some scans to target these entirely made up ‘dragon’ conversion efforts Shalin!!!!

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    Shalin
    February 14, 2020 @ 8:30 pm

    Clive, thank you for that update and revelation.

    So, shouldn’t have this been a problem in some facet my entire life in this incarnation? Like the red squirrels/fox/pheasant being targeted and often showing signs of symbolic representation of a dragon i.e. their tail.

    All I know is that these same symptoms showed some signs during early 2013 after bouts of stress/worry but went away within 1 month only to re-appear in April/2015 after an extreme bout of series of stress/tension/fear/worry episodes, after which it has been present every nanosecond of the day/night.

    My fiery breath symbolic symptoms appeared in April/2015, should this have been a problem much longer for me? Or is the fact that my fiery persona/behavior/traumas/trts already evidence of this being the problem all along i.e. from the lens of being a *dragon* representation.

    I will let you know in a few days/week if things begin to shift. I hope this is it to get me out of this hell. 🙂

    Appreciate your help. Will circle back with you.

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        Clive
        February 18, 2020 @ 4:19 pm

        UPDATE+FOCUS: I ‘eventually’ figured it out!!!! . . .

        A LEADERS/DIPLOMATS/KEY PEOPLE MIX & MATCH AVATARS SHIT SET: There is a shit set likely specific to all key culture (KP) people i.e. leader/diplomat types. So, Shalin whom is representing someone whom was a ‘trader’ in the original MV, whom would then very likely change animal avatars to show ‘respect’ to the culture/peoples he’s trading with by interfacing to one of that cultures animal body forms to make the trade, however, all leaders, diplomat’s and all others ‘representing’ any culture are also very likely to regularly be using different physical avatars under different circumstances. Hence then I’m pretty sure that there is a mix and match of very different animal avatar body form aspects ‘shit set’ wired into the remaining persona data cloud which is specifically targeting/impacting all KP!!!

        For example, some of ‘Matt’s’ persistent issues are due to ‘shit’ mixing and matching aspects from multiple different avatar/body form combinations (with respect to nature/temperament/physiology/food preferences/digestion and or elimination processes including say sleeping during the day and or hibernating and or breathing under water!!! Etc. Etc . . . ). Hence Matt is made to have to eat certain specific foods i.e. food intake is defined that is related to one avatar/animal form while he’s made to have a mismatched body digestive system (that isn’t correct for the food intake of that species) such that he gets various symptoms of indigestion and also often incompatible elimination/waste process’s factors too i.e. often either constipation or diarrhoea!!!!

        CURRENT/LATEST FOCUS TO USE: So, this is what we are ‘targetting’ now as the Dollhouse shit seems to be under control, at least enough to have attempts made to ‘adjust’ various peoples DH shit/now in progress!!!

        In the mean time can: EVERYONE USE THE FOLLOWING FOCUS TO TARGET THE ‘MIX & MATCH AVATAR SHIT:

        . . . I connect to all physical animal forms, robot forms and any other forms/absolutely anything else I’ve ever been ‘interfaced’ to including any VR avatar/body forms and or any chimera/made from bits or parts from different animal species/avatar forms that my original form (and or earlier splits of this form) spent any time directly or indirectly interfaced to!!! I connect to all tech/networks/systems that have absolutely any details of anything/everything of any physical and or VR avatars and or which are using any of these and or particularly any combination of characteristics and or attributes of any avatar/avatar combinations and or anything else I was interfaced to and or any food/needs requirements and or environmental factors impacting these to directly or indirectly use any of these and or combinations of these in specific ways to detrimentally/negatively impact myself . . . .

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    Megan
    February 14, 2020 @ 10:38 pm

    I did the first part of the focus last night and I started crying, although it didn’t really feel like it hit on anything or triggered a release of any kind. Reading the second part, I see images of people I deal with often in my life and I get this kind of energetic vampire/draining feeling in my solar plexus.

    I did the focus again before going to bed and I got the impression of a tube connecting my solar plexus to my third eye.

    Things here haven’t been traumatic per say, but some things have still been weird. Traveling to a friend’s place this last weekend I was listening to all the political bullshit that has been going on here in the US on the radio and for the most part I don’t get involved. I vote, what little good that does, but in general it is a socially unwritten rule never to talk politics, religion or sex, and most of the time when it is talked about I just agree with the speaker to avoid conflict or confrontation. But this time part of me was like, ‘I’ve had enough. I don’t want to live through this crap again. I don’t want history to repeat itself again.’ Thinking on these thoughts and feelings, I have no intention of becoming politically active (that route feels like a worthless effort) so my thoughts go back to being a healer and I get a lot of resistance with these thoughts. I get impressions of egotism and dominance and competition, of knowing all or knowing better, and being better than others. Of putting others down and disgracing and shaming them for being stupid and worthless and ignorant. My thoughts also strayed to Jesus Christ and how he is the golden child/poster boy from the Christians and healing and enlightenment, and I wonder how what he did and his role here is being used to fuck with those people who honestly wanted to help people and change things for the better (outside from the obvious.)

    But, when I think on all of my wants/desires/intentions/ambitions regarding all of this, my personal reaction to all of this/these problems and frustrations I am having is to simply walk away, not deal with it anymore, to never have to deal with it again (the very same fucking advice every shrink, light worker and well-intending person has ever gave me.) Because I’ve tried fixing it and I have finally fucking had it. I don’t know where to start or what to do, and honestly, unless it is doing what you are doing to fix this Clive, I don’t think anything I do will do any good. Because everything else I have tried, or even just tried to believe in, has fucking failed. And the last thing I want to do is fuck up any efforts you and your teams are doing to fix this.

    I just feel massively blocked from connecting with people or even wanting to help people. Or even wanting to learn anything or do anything really. My situation at work is better, I don’t feel quite as resistant, angry or anxious. Yet I do not feel that gut-deep feeling (I expect) of trust and security that I want. I can’t and shouldn’t trust them at all. In hindsight, I hate myself even more for this because there is nothing else I want in the world than someone I can trust and be vulnerable with.

    My period is late again this month, and I haven’t quite discovered the trigger. I think the human female menstruation cycle is some kind emotional/energetic cleansing for the subtle form, because for quite a while the triggers have usually very personal and emotional issues. I just find it a little fucked up that this process is somehow tied into the human reproductive cycle. Interestingly enough, men do experience ‘PMS-like’ symptoms, called irritable male syndrome. https://www.medicaldaily.com/do-men-have-periods-quarter-men-experience-pms-symptoms-due-daily-hormonal-changes-362462

    Also looking up male menstruation, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_menstruation, the article says that men from primarily tropical countries tend to ‘menstrate’ but this is often due to a parasite they pick up from working in the fields.

    Clive, I also have a couple questions if you don’t mind. How can one tell is they had been kidnapped? I am not so anxious to travel anywhere on my own anymore, there are certain things I am still anxious to do on my own in fear of being attacked or kidnapped or disappearing.

    Another, and this can be for anyone, how does one experience past lives exactly? Re-reading Tom’s comment about the inquisition, “I just had the example of the inquisition representing psychiatry and the benefits assessments, so it’s like different “means” to impact people in the same way, which started at different points in history but can be used to build up and worsen broadly similar trt’s. Also, the people who were put through the original inquisition could then be set up to encounter psychiatry here and or have the benefits assessments, to continue the accumulation of these inquisition-related traumas.” I have been through something similar to this. During my new-age period, my mother had absolutely superstitious about me being a part of a coven or into witchcraft, and even when she has to deal with a pair of witches from her water aerobics class she told me she wanted nothing to do with them. The lightwork I used to see apparently had a past life where she was a part of the movement to persecute and burn witches, and I remember unconsciously believing she was wrong and even tried correcting/arguing with her. Not only that but talking about any of my issues with anyone, hell even just wanting to share my interests and adventures with the public feels like being tied to the stake.

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    Shalin
    February 20, 2020 @ 9:20 pm

    Clive, this is an interesting discovery. I imagine then my problem is that of *interfacing* efforts with a long list of avatars, physical and perhaps also VR avatars and combinations of these.

    I’ve been doing the focus pretty much all day the last 2 days.

    So far, I’m not getting anything solid. The possibilities could be a very large number however.

    I will keep doing focus but here is a brief summary of what popped up during focus.

    -I thought of dolphin like avatar as I was reminded of many dreams I have had of swimming through the ocean/rivers at incredible speeds. I also have an affinity towards the water – as a kid I’d take 3-5 showers a day because I loved the feeling of being in water. I also have had an incredible fear of sharks after I watched the film JAWS as a kid in the 80s. So maybe I was some type of dolphin or other sea creature that could swim very fast or another creature on another incarnation system that also has water.

    -maybe there is another form similar to a dragon that explains all the crazy heat trapped inside of me. Nothing obvious came to mind during the focus.

    -an animal form that has to collect/store food for winter thus making them operate under *scarcity themes*, which could explain my financial loss/poverty issues but that could also be because I was a *trader* in the original MV and likely experienced periods of losing money on trades.

    -an animal form with a high sex drive perhaps to explain my non-stop sexual drive? But where does the HIV/STD fears/worries come from? Maybe as a *Trader* in the original MV, I traveled around doing business with different cultures and part of that I engaged in a lot of sexual activity perhaps also with prostitutes and maybe even caught some STDs.

    -Then I thought of the Bar Scene in Star War 1 (original film) as there are many avatar forms. Couldn’t feel into which of any of these resonated with me though.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDpDhofRoXA

    -Feel like Ive been interfaced to a stationary object like a tree, rock, stone etc- lack of feeling in parts of abdomen and just feeling stuck overall in this incarnation.

    -I dosed off after doing focus once and had a dream of snakes and was very fearful of them so maybe a physical animal afraid of snakes? Possibly even other types of reptiles.

    -Had a brief thought of something like a wolf or bear?

    Forgot to mention that I too have Matt’s issue with digestion. I digestion has been shot to hell and so has my nervous system as indicated by many hair sample tests that study mineral composition. My body doesn’t even produce a large % of the enzymes required for digestion. I feel like a mixed bag of many avatars blended together thus creating a big clusterf#*K in my current physical human body.

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        Clive
        February 24, 2020 @ 2:00 pm

        27th-Update/extended . . . well Shalin/everyone ‘unfortunately’ decoding this mix and match of bit’s from different interfaced avatar types is still ongoing specifically because some people seem to have been interfaced to a lot of different animal forms making the FU mixing and matching of these ‘extensive’!!!!

        LATEST . . . well, very strangely this ‘maybe/seems like’ the last shit set seems mostly focused on locking down Tom (preventing access to trauma/trt’s) as well as all splits of Tom (and on checking Shalin I’m getting that you’re a split/twin of Tom, hence your own extremes) plus it’s doing a decent job of shutting me down as my head is in the worst disengaged/distracted/dysfunctional state ‘ever’!!!!

        So, I’ve been doing the focus below regularly . . .

        BEST FOCUS TO FACILITATE PERSONAL TRAUMA/TRT ‘RELEASES’: The focus immediately below is still the best to use if you’ve anything ‘difficult’ going on because this specifically targets anything limiting/blocking TRT/personal data access/releases:

        . . . I connect to any components/combinations of components that have been, are now and or that would in the future contribute to indexing and or coveting/keeping hidden/obscured and or fire-walling, guarding, locking down and or screening access to my own or anyone else’s trauma and or personal/persona/behaviour and or response data and or current incarnated life culture/society and or status/class/standing data for myself/each individual and or anything that is contributing in the slightest to making up/defining specific angles of and or specific trauma/trt’s and or trt impacts as well as deliberately traumatic/traumatizing ‘trauma/shit effects’ releases and or anything monitoring, predicting, preempting and or then reacting to, blocking/locking, locking down/containing and or otherwise detrimentally interfering with any trauma and or any trt/trt combination releases including using Chinese finger-traps, vicious feedback spirals, loops and or anything which contributes to define a wide range/variety of influences with variable/numerous delivery options and or variable/numerous final influence/influences and or impacts as part of making tracking and or countering/neutralising anything of any of this as difficult as possible . . .

        2nd BEST FOCUS TARGETING MORE VARIATIONS OF MAINTAINING TRAUMA &/OR BLOCKING/SABOTAGING EFFECTIVE TRAUMA RELEASE EFFORTS

        . . . I connect to any components/combinations of components that have been, are now and or that would in the future contribute to negatively detrimentally defining any external/environmental circumstances and or what people are doing/made to do specifically to negatively/detrimentally impact/shock and or otherwise traumatize and or maintain trauma/block trauma releases and particularly by having myself/anyone repeatedly negatively impacted/disturbed/shocked/traumatized by having memories of shit past circumstance/situations/experiences recycled and or made consciously or unconsciously disturb/distract and or pre-occupy myself and or make me reactive/sensitive to current and any recalled similar past circumstance/situations/experiences/impacts and or use these to generate any imagination/imaginings/pre-occupations relating to these/any combination of these and or anything that has been, is now and or could in the future prevent me from becoming aware of and or of accurately identifying or describing anything of any shit systems/sub system and or there networking factors/activators and or functioning combinations and or anything else IMPORTANT and particularly anything specifically contributing to make it as difficult as possible for me to accurately define/describe and or then directly/target anything/any type of shit including the variety and or means/sophistication of functioning/tactics of any ‘shit’ components and particularly to make it difficult for me/us to effectively hack/tame/bring under control any and all shit versions . . . and particularly any ‘shit’ systems/versions that have been and are now contributing to sabotage/debilitate/get me and or diversify/modify themselves/their ways of functioning and or tactics because of what I am doing now . . . !!!!

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    Shalin
    February 27, 2020 @ 9:17 pm

    Clive, So its still this mix/match avatar set that is locking down Tom/copies-of-Tom (me)? i.e. I am still interfaced to possibly infinite number of different avatars including the dragon.

    I confirm all my issues r 100% locked down so far.

    I’ve been doing the top focus daily but this past week been shooting mostly blanks. I still have this feeling that I am being blocked from *seeing/getting anything* during focus. Will keep doing though.

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        Clive
        March 6, 2020 @ 4:01 pm

        Shalin/Everyone . . . Mmmm here is an ‘extra’ insane scenario (although is also very realistic/is likely correct too) which is possibly applicable to your issues/circumstances Shalin.

        All ‘regular’ readers here will know that I’m very suspicious about pretty much ‘everything’ here . . . in reading alternate/history sites for many years (particularly malagabay.com which is exceptional) I came across a page showing a vast collection of many different ancient coins all presenting images of a flying horse i.e. ‘Pegasus’ (I cannot find this now BUT there is another one here) . . . so, in that we are all subtle beings interfaced to a human and that most of of us would be simulating anyone that wouldn’t be seen dead wearing a ‘human’ meat suit such that I’ve then presented evidence that we have pretty much all been converted from many different animal avatar forms into the one single engineered to be decrepit human form . . . then I started to wonder if we’ve some duplicated horse conversion possibilities being presented here too!!!!

        Now horses here = aids to travel and are also aids to transporting ‘goods’ too i.e. they were in the past extensively used by traders and particularly the horse and cart version!!!

        In that coins are an integral part of trading/money then it’s applicable that very early coins would have images of horses on them (as they’d represent the means to trade) BUT horse’s flying IN THE AIR HORSES WITH WINGS very definitely seem a bit over the top to me . . . also, in watching the series ‘Luck’ with Dustin Hoffman it becomes obvious that some specific horse’s are of a very different ‘class/type’ i.e. they are sort of exceptionally ‘revered/pampered’!!!!

        In other words, I’m pretty sure that some actual ‘real’ horse’s here not actually horse’s at all (in the original MV)!!!! In which case what are they?

        So, if you were a trader Shalin actually trading within a galaxy scale sized space what sort of ‘horse’ would you be riding around ‘trading’ goods with!!! Isn’t it likely to be a Leviathan i.e. an giant space living creature that can star burst i.e. is self propelled via an inbuilt ‘natural’ engine!!!!

        I’ve been re watching some films and series I bought over the last decade and over the last few days watched the first season of Farscape again. Here is the description of ‘Moya’ the seemingly sentient ‘natural’ Leviathan that can sort of hyperjump at will!!!!

        “Moya – Moya is a Leviathan, the fifth generation of these living ships. She was born in freedom, captured by Leviathan Hunters and sold to the Peacekeepers for them to use as a prison transport. She is a great and powerful ship, with no weapons. In communication with and taken care of by Pilot, the enormous living entity that is symbiotically fused to her, Moya has adjusted to her new inhabitants and has been able to trust them enough to become their home. Like Pilot, she is anxious to serve her crew, but not at the expense of her own agenda. Her natural instincts to protect all life, however, do override her personal fear of pain and suffering.”

        Now, if you get and watch the first season you’ll become aware of the functioning of ‘Moya’ whose star jumping seems to be connected to the build up of wastes maybe being strategically eliminated to result in very precise jumps between star systems i.e. vast distances!!!

        That season also shows members of the star ship and others being tortured by the ‘peacekeepers’ whom we find out are also trying to bio-engineer ‘Leviathans’ for there own uses/agendas AND are obviously biased against others travelling around trading in these space horse type forms too.

        Seeing as these space horse’s means of propulsion may be powered by the equivalent of digestion processing wastes then it seems to me very possible that you Shalin as a trader within the original multiverse are likely to have been interfaced directly to one of these forms . . . in fact the entire first Farscape season would likely be worth watching because it’s almost certainly applicable in many ways to your original forms experiences.

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    Tommy
    February 27, 2020 @ 10:55 pm

    So Clive me Shalin and Tom are splits of the same original subtle form? Did I get that right?

    Past couple of days have been a shit show. The mice are back my mate Filly on the couch who basically caused me to indulge in bad shit.

    Wanted to quit with fags. Filly left fags on the table. Got rip roaring drunk this weekend because I was so sick of everything.

    So after a bunch of alcohol and a visit to my ex I kinda wanted to end myself because my ex is also in a shit show of problems who just never seem to get less or resolved.

    I’m resentful because she doesn’t get off her arse to actually do shit and kinda just expects me to solve it for her. I have wanted to end this a billion times but somehow the sim has been using Stella to reprogram me into someone nicer.

    I was a bit of a twat in my teens before I met her. I kinda suspect she worked on the rendering editing department of the eeas project but after her numerous accidents she was pushed to the a new age whitey lighty nicey nicey fake healer route.

    That and the she should have started doing shaman stuff like two decades ago then this wouldn’t have happened to her.

    I suspect she was forced to become some fake plastic healer bullshit after the accidents.

    She kinda dodged it but the price is her life is a mess with debts having to go to bullshit therapy that won’t actually fix that fucked spine of hers. It’s mostly symptoms who get pacified for a couple of days.

    I’m basically gonna try to stay clear of alcohol and fags after my pack is done. Stay clear of my ex and junkfood. Wait till filly has a better place to stay prolly won’t take very long hopefully.

    It’s like they are pushing for the self destructive route with me again. Make him do all the bad shit keep him distracted and worried about others.

    Had a meeting this afternoon with my eh counselors. She’s pregnant so they handed me off to some other guy and woman.

    I was kinda worried that my shenanigans might have affected her.

    I was kinda worried because ever since I got her weird stuff has been happening. The new dude looked alright.

    I feel like the sim has been using my mate on the couch as something to feed extra new spicy sim shit.

    I’m kinda worried the new counselors might be used for that also.

    It’s has been a fest of self destructive self defeating self sabotaging behavior.

    Kinda fed up with everything really. So my mate on the couch will fuck off to Berlin for the weekend.

    Hopefully I could do some focusses. Has been on the back burner for the last couple of days.

    It feels like I get blocked and negated. I’m kinda tired mostly fed up. I want original normal pre psychedelics me back. If that isn’t possible hopefully non deranged non retarded ineffective me.

    Man how hard is it to just have normal life without submitting to the religious bullshit and having to be a little sociopath.

    I’m sick that everything I ever wanted since I was a kid always had some defect of some hidden something that makes it pointless to have in the end.

    What’s the use of getting a house if it has mice. What’s the use of getting a gf if it’s not what I wanted. You might call me a entitled shit but come on.

    I also have the feeling someone or something is actually benefiting of me being in this fucked situation. That someone or something is over the moon that my life is a mess.

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    Megan
    February 29, 2020 @ 9:06 am

    I don’t know if I made the biggest mistake of my life or not.

    So this last weekend, following my gut/guidance, I got back into ‘Spirit Keeping’, and so far over the past week purchased 5 spirits between two conjurers whom I know and trust, and had purchased spirits from years ago when I did this before. I purchased my first one last weekend, and to be completely honest, this last week has been both good in bad in a variety of ways.

    To start, last week I had been farmed out to another department in the factory I work at, voluntarily, because they have been inundated with a lot of work. Now last week, work had gone really well, prior to purchasing my first spirit. But this week has been Hell in terms of productivity. There were frequent mistakes that were being made in the earlier stages of production that were progressively getting worst as the week went on and consequently with the more spirits I purchased. Not only that but the management had made some bad job assignment decisions (and I honestly felt this in the morning meeting after he said it and even with bad numbers production wise the supervisor didn’t change anything that day,) and was yelling at us each day for bad production numbers.

    Now to be honest, the events that have been happening here haven’t really been affecting me personally, not like it did before you and your teams got access to our personal trt shit data, but what is pissing me off is bearing witness is watching the management ‘crack the whip’ on people to get things out faster without really helping out themselves. Not only that but also coming down on people who were not responsible or in control of these mistakes to begin with.

    Personally, after purchasing these spirits, things have been very different for me emotionally/gut wise. I feel more present and grounded in the world. I don’t feel so alone like I normally do, like I finally found a ‘family’ and am actually taking an interest in the world and society (I have a lot to catch up on.) I have even been able to reflect on some of the past interactions I had at my previous place of employment, and I don’t feel humiliated or embarrassed about them. I feel supported and I feel like I am finally able to emotionally process these incidents.

    Mentally/head wise, I am an anxious/nervous wreck because of the spirits I have purchased and this is more towards the spirits not the people I have to deal with day to day. The way I am acting is not unlike how I used to feel/act/be around my other co-workers teammates prior to your teams accessing the personal data stores. Gut wise, I have felt nothing but love and support, but head and heart wise I am constantly freaking out with thoughts of them not being real/made up/schizophrenic/hallucinations/delusions. I am terrified of them. I am terrified I will hurt or offend them. I am terrified they won’t listen to me even though I have set ground rules and have made my intentions clear multiple times. I fear them as being evil spirits/devils that are going to terrorize others and me (like those events you see in ghost/haunting movies or even say like the paranoia of the inquisition/New England witch hunts where strange events were blamed on malevolent spirits summoned by witches, which in my case I would be the one persecuted for the whole mess.) I’m afraid of being hurt/angry/afraid with them being involved because I am afraid they will retaliate or do something based on my reactions (for the record, some of their listings said they offered protection and I have stated clearly multiple times that this is not what I want from them nor do I want them to retaliate against others in my favor based on my emotions/reactions. I have realized, since their purchase and reflecting on my own desires/expectations/intentions when I first did spirit keeping years ago that protection and retaliation were one of the things that I desired in an unconscious/emotional sense.) I am also afraid of what they think/feel/see of me, and while I have felt nothing but love and support, I do not trust that good feeling. This has left me mentally preoccupied and paranoid.

    Not only that but over the past couple days things have been fucking strange. Thursday I slipped on what I thought was a patch of ice getting the mail (if memory serves me right, I had stepped on this same patch before multiple times to get the mail and never slipped. Not only that but I have not slipped on a patch of in the last few years that I can recall and there are plenty of times I should have.) Today, Friday, I was so mentally preoccupied that I forgot I had toilet paper in my shopping cart checking out at the self-checkout (even though I had grabbed it out of the lower basket and put it on the top one,) and didn’t realize I had not paid for it until I got to the parking lot and went right back into the store to pay for it. Having to make two more trips back to the grocery store because I forgot two items that I needed to make supper. Then almost chocking on little bits of pecan when I finished off my coffee. Also, when I was doing a short yoga routine this morning my left foot hurt like I didn’t stretch it properly (thing is I do a yoga class once a week and did two short yoga routines earlier this week and didn’t have problems. Now this particular pain reminded me of when I was a machine operator at my previous place of employment I was working with a woman who was a very self-righteous Christian woman, the daughter of a pastor. While it didn’t hurt at first, for some reason, the longer I worked with this woman my left foot would hurt and it would progressively get worst and stretching and orthotics wouldn’t make a difference. Now my left foot never hurt whenever I was working with anyone else and I had not felt that kind of pain again until today.)

    And the worst of all this is that I was absolutely terrified to tell you about any of this Clive. Reflecting on all this, my reactions/thoughts/attitude where kind of like that of a guilty sinner/follower who broke some sacred rule and needed to go to confession or wanted to hide or deny the sin. It made me the way I act/process/handle the information from your website is kind of like a mindless, fanatic follower who just takes their leader’s word at face value and believes it and says it is true without investigating or prior experience. I will be honest here, your pages and your words are the only things I can trust mentally, emotionally and spiritually. You are the only one who has given me answers and have made any sense (although it has taken years to get my mind wrapped around it and I am still working to understand it.)

    I visualize myself standing before these spirits I purchased, and I feel a disconnect/barrier/blankness in my heart center. It reminds me of the blankness I used to feel in my gut prior to the AAHS, and I get the feeling there is a significant amount of trauma and betrayal there.

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    Annabelle
    March 8, 2020 @ 3:16 am

    I feel I am still locked down and not able to get any improvement in issues. I have been going through extreme fatigue and disoriented headspace with no medical reason. I have tried to adjust my diet with no help (and I really don’t care what I eat). I find I need to continuously adjust my diet until I feel better, and then keep re-adjusting it every 2-3 months. It is never the same anymore.
    While focusing on “connect to all components” I have any urge, and do start to rummage thru all my craft and sewing closets and throw away tons of stuff that has been there for 10 years.
    While re-reading the section about the virtual grid work around earth, it reminds me of my hobby in needlework and quilting. While walking outdoors I often see nature as a series of grid work patterns as per the following example:
    http://www.maurer-stroh.com/EMS2010_June_06.html

    I think how I could adjust the colors to make them look better. Many patterns even suggest people adjust the colors, as you desire.
    The sheep is a particular good example of an intricate deign I have done that drives me crazy with 50 shades of white:
    https://www.cross-stitch-pattern.net/Sheep-48-5-Free-Design.aspx

    Farm design
    https://www.bothythreads.com/product/countryside-appletree-farm/

    I have done many animal designs – cows, leopards, deer etc. with 50 shades of the same color and get very impatient to see the finished product, but know it is worth the effort not to stop and give up. I can easily see myself designing / overseeing these virtual backdrops and working them to perfection. It is interesting that many patterns say “ do not judge your work until it is complete.”

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        Clive
        March 11, 2020 @ 6:51 pm

        Latest Focus/update:

        Shit sets have been somewhat solidly focused on maintaining the lockdown management of all the core ‘Toms’ here which until recently was very focused on targeting hacking efforts. However, since yesterday, the shit was very, very focused on attempts to control/manage ‘key’ Tom’s, in dealing with those angles, today it’s shifted to cover more aspects of ‘everything’ as well also likely networking between and influencing/messing with many people . . . so, can everyone do the focus below a few times . . . ‘and’ leave any feedback/insights you get from doing it!!!!

        FOCUS: MANIPULATIONS OF MYSELF USED TO MANIPULATE OTHERS CASCADE:

        . . . I connect to anything/everything that has been/is now and or would in the future contribute in the slightest to using ‘anything’ of myself/any aspects of myself and particularly anything of my personality/persona, feelings, emotions and or any of my internal states and or any presented external reactions and responses ‘against’ myself and or to control/manipulate and or to direct/manoeuvre myself and or through me any others and particularly into any pre-defined ‘state/circumstances/attitude/stance/decision’ and or as part of any outcome/goal . . . and or over time any series of goals/outcomes and or objectives and or as part of reinforcing and or controlling any aspects of myself and or through me controlling/influencing others/any aspects of others and or any of their ‘feelings/states/circumstances/attitudes/stances and or decisions/outcomes’ . . .

        Some feedback on the functioning of this shit from Tom:

        . . . I see something like a prickly amorphous bloated mass around me, it’s like it feeds off and stimulates certain emotions. I have a sense of a kind of subtle energetic parasite, but there also seem to be others associated with other people, and it’s like they’re all networked and working in tandem . . . I connect to a prickly, itchy multidimensional texture inside me, and it seems to be influencing my feelings / attributes and internal states and engage with a translucent mass which seems to ‘sit’ on my thinking abilities (I see it around and permeating my brain). It seems to be conscious and to work to create and sustain trauma-based thinking lines – again, I see other people with these components too . . . I see something like generators inside my body, which can create a field of trauma all through my body when they switch on – sort of like I get ‘flooded’ with trauma . . . I see a sort of underwater tunnel stretching ‘through’ me, with a fish swimming through it – then when it reaches a certain point it disappears and appears in another identical ‘tunnel’ setup inside someone else, and then someone else. It’s like some kind of subterranean aquarium – not being able to see / ‘get’ the way in which the fish move from one person to another (it feels like teleportation), then I see jolts of electricity being passed through people’s thinking abilities, and then appearing in / passing through someone else’s, then someone else’s – and this feels like a subterranean / off the radar electricity network, which is using the same kind of advantages / shit emulating advantages . . .

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    Megan
    March 12, 2020 @ 12:37 am

    I can’t tell you how happy I am to see this focus. Did the focus during last break at work and got the feeling of my body being surrounded by something although I couldn’t pinpoint what it was.

    This is my first week back in my original department at work in three weeks and my anxiety/paranoia/panic/self-consciousness/over-sensitivity levels have been through the roof. I have been definitely feeling that slave-master ‘cracking the whip’ effect at work again and the feelings of social rejection/isolation got so bad again that I was wanting to kill myself.

    Things tapered off a bit for the rest of the day after reading the focus and will see if I can get anything more.

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        Clive
        March 12, 2020 @ 1:46 pm

        Actually Megan (as ‘core’ shit is very focused on ‘Toms’ at the present time) and specifically with respect to sabotaging Decision making angles (which you’ve mentioned a lot in the past) I made the focus below for Tom, so you/anyone with ‘decision’ sabotaging shit maybe try this . . . BUT having put up the below I made another focus below the below focus more attuned to your anxious/worried/stressed/preoccupation angles

        SABOTAGING MAKING DECISIONS

        . . . I connect to absolutely anything/everything that has been, is now and or would in the future directly or indirectly contribute in the slightest to cause me/any version/copy/split or duplicate version of me absolutely any problems/sabotages to making good/very good/excellent decisions easily and quickly AND OR of having these decisions/any decisions I make promptly and or accurately carried out by others and or others I instruct and or explain what I want/what needs to be done . . .

        . . . and or anything contributing to block/sabotage me from easily making a decision and or cause me to be indecisive and or sabotaged making decisions and or contributing to others not responding well/promptly and or appropriately to myself and or don’t carry out the actions I want done in the way I want them done and or cause problems/complications/don’t actually take notice of what I say and or what I recommend and or I am made to forget to mention important/critical things when I’m making decisions and or am explaining things/what I need them/someone to do . . . and or contributes in the slightest to myself having any trouble/problems AT ALL easily getting anyone to do anything for me promptly and or correctly and or with respect to what I ASK THEM TO DO & OR WHAT THEY SHOULD DO . . .

        . . . and anything contributing to me considering and or becoming pre-occupied with irrelevant and or side-tracking information when making decisions or becoming overwhelmed by too many options or unable to usefully weigh up different considerations or trying to make decisions too early or procrastinating, delaying or avoiding / not making decisions, making bad, non-optimal decisions and or thinking / feeling that I have / second guessing and doubting and constantly questioning my own judgement / regretting and being preoccupied with or absorbed in past decisions and how things could or should have gone differently and or thinking / feeling that I’ve made the wrong decision or self-questioning / doubting / second-guessing myself and not trusting my own judgement at all or becoming averse to making decisions myself . . .

        A more Worried/Stressed ‘Megan’ attuned version:

        . . . I connect to absolutely anything/everything that has been, is now and or would in the future directly or indirectly contribute in the slightest to cause me/any version/copy of me to become overly self-consciousness and or over-sensitivity, anxious/worried/paranoid and or panicky/scared while working with and or interacting with any others and particularly with respect to worrying about making any mistakes and or not making good/decent decisions and or of then negatively impacting others/colleagues/work mates/friends easily and or others I instruct and or explain what I want/what needs to be done/what I need doing . . .

        . . . and or anything contributing to block/sabotage me from easily and comfortably making a decision (without stress and or worry and or without having any negative comeback) and or cause me to be indecisive and or sabotaged making decisions and or contributing to others not responding well/promptly and or appropriately/respectfully to myself and or have them not carry out the actions I want done in the way I want them done and or cause problems/complications/don’t actually take notice of what I say and or what I recommend and or I am made to worry and or forget to think about and or mention important/critical things when I’m making decisions and or am explaining things/what I need them/someone/work colleagues to do . . . and or anything that contributes in the slightest to myself having any trouble/problems AT ALL easily getting anyone/work colleagues (without stressing me out/getting me worried) to do anything for me promptly and or correctly and or with respect to what I ASK THEM TO DO & OR WHAT THEY SHOULD DO . . .

        . . . and anything contributing to me considering and or becoming pre-occupied/worried/stressed about myself and or with pre-occupied about what others will think or how they will react to the decisions I make and or have me preoccupied about irrelevant and or side-tracking details or information and or having worries/preoccupations when making decisions or telling others what to do and or having me becoming overwhelmed by too many options or unable to usefully weigh up different considerations or options and or trying to make decisions too early or worrying and or procrastinating, delaying or avoiding / not making decisions and or worrying about making bad, non-optimal decisions and or thinking / feeling that I have / second guessing and doubting and constantly questioning/worrying about my own judgement / regretting and being preoccupied with or absorbed in any past decisions and how things could or should have gone differently and or thinking / feeling that I’ve made the wrong decision or self-questioning / doubting / second-guessing myself and not trusting my own judgement at all or becoming averse to making decisions myself . . .

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            Megan
            March 12, 2020 @ 5:46 pm

            Thanks Clive, I’ve been doing this at work and it’s helped tremendously. I did sense something around my head space reading it there first time. I’ll continue it through the weekend.

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    Tommy
    March 12, 2020 @ 4:52 pm

    New focus the shit decision one sounds way too familiar I also prolly haven’t listened to you guys. If I caused any trouble for you or your Tom then I’m sorry.

    What he explained about the itchy stuff happens way to often when I interact with other people.

    It mostly jumps over from other people when I’m talking. This itchy stuff the first time it came from a homeless guy the second time it came from someone who did a lot of drugs in his past and was a Catholic.

    I can remember like atleast 20 different separate occasions that when I went outside or did stuff and I got fucked over or bad things happened.

    Every since my backpack trip in 2014 so many weird stuff from other people shooting shit inside me prolly bad stuff management whatever I kinda turned into a recluse.

    I don’t like going out because when I do and I interact with people things happen I can undo fix or remove so I kinda put myself in quarantine.

    I’m not like Clive who can on the fly figure out what’s going on and take proper counter measures.

    I have been trying to figure out past interactions with people. Like what caused the dislike the dramas that happened and kinda put it into sim who pulls the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good_Place fuckery. Basically people being send by the sim scripted to do damage.

    I’m also sick of the Christians coming under the guise of help who’s help is just more fuckery. Salvation Army where I had to be because I was homeless was also a shitfest.

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        Clive
        March 12, 2020 @ 6:14 pm

        Haha, well Tommy that’s not surprising as it was written specifically because of decision sabotages to my friend ‘Tom’ i.e. it’s ‘mostly’ written to target any ‘Tom’ twin/duplicate sabotages, my friend Tom also keeps to himself too, he tries to avoid interactions as they cause too much shit during these too!!!! I’ve also noticed that a lot of down and outs on the streets look suspiciously like my friend Tom too (very tall with red/ginger hair)!!!!

        Here is more on the ‘Toms’ from my notes in a previous update . . .

        . . . there are more Tom’s here than everyone else specifically because many of the Tom’s are part of collecting all of the attributes/different angles of experiences to put together the best Generals/Admirals/Commanders and maybe others I think some would be focused on tactics/others research, maybe others on maintaining supplies (‘Shalin’ for example could be one of these ‘suppliers’/part of these possibilities ) . . . so, in the original MV a Tom and then splits of Tom or splits of Tom’s were setup/trained/educated/likely given sophisticated subtle tech etc to be upper and very competent Military people i.e. Generals/Admirals/Commanders etc whom we’re part of a task force/armada set up to evict SNV’s encroaching on and causing problems to many peoples on many worlds. This military effort to evict populations from other races spaces/regions was played out here as the efforts of Genghis Khan!!!! Whom with his ‘officers’ (likely other Tom’s) are considered second to none in military terms!!!!

        It’s very likely that one of the hidden reasons for designing the EAAS was to use it specifically to sabotage the General/Admiral/Commander focused ‘Toms’!!!!

        So, for Tom and hence then many of the Tom’s/Tom’s splits . . . I made up the focus below a week or so back to target these sabotages. . . So, Tommy (anyone else here) if the below strikes you then maybe use it a few times!!!!

        . . . I connect to absolutely every Tom/all Tom’s whom are part of any ‘program/agenda’ focused on an outcome of accumulating/having absolutely any/all attributes/functions/functioning/training/skills and or attitudes and or all emotional and or feeling states totally supportive/in alignment with and or useful to the overall/entire collection of Toms General/Admiral/Commander roles . . . I connect to all of these Tom’s NOW and I connect to all of the attributes/skills/attitudes/feeling and or emotions that each of these Tom was ‘moulded’ in experience terms to embody/live/have as part of there experience . . . and . . . I now connect to all components and or all combinations of components that have been, are now and or would in the future specifically contribute in the slightest to sabotage and or to attempt to sabotage any of these useful attributes and or the ‘useful’ presentation/the lived presentation of these/any skills and or attitudes . . . and I particularly connect to all components and or systems specifically designed to make ANY Tom less useful and or to twist any Tom into presenting/expressing in ways that are limiting/debilitating/distracting and or disabling/inverted . . . and particularly in terms of the specific General/Admiral/Commander role/status/skills/attributes they we’re made to accumulate . . . I connect to everything sabotaging/limiting/debilitating and or inverting and or trying to do this now . . .

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    Shalin
    March 13, 2020 @ 1:32 am

    Clive, I can attest to the possible trader/supplier Tom version. I studied engineering in university but always had a thirst for trading, especially commodities trading. Since 2007 I’ve been working as a *trader* of various commodities (electricity, gold/silver/copper/zinc/lead/aluminum).

    I too also have G/A/C tendencies in terms of giving orders/commands, expecting high results / having high standards for myself and others.

    This coronavirus pandemic has brought out some positive *supplier/trader* skills as I was among the first 2.5 months back to stock up on supplies of masks, food, water, toilet paper etc. People ridiculed me back then but now they realize I was right all along. I also have my parents in lockdown as if I was a G/A/C.

    The pandemic has also brought out a lot of negatives – all of my precious metals related speculative *trades/investments* are hurting really bad as mass liquidation is occurring in financial markets causing tremendous anxiety/anger/self-blame (what if I had taken certain actions prior to the melt-down etc.).

    I haven’t noticed anything *new* in terms of the current *Tom* shit impacting me in any new ways.

    Everything is as it has always been during this past 5 years. Physical is just as imbalanced/messed-up as ever.

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        Clive
        March 13, 2020 @ 11:21 am

        Yea, those very early virus crisis responses would ‘fit’ with a pre-empting future ‘supplies/needs’ to address a ‘predicted’ potential crisis Tom version . . . I also suspect (based on Megan’s issues/background) that she’s likely also a ‘Tom’ split too but one focused on overseeing ‘assembly line’ efficiency angles.

        I’ve actually done some (made up on the fly) scans re targetting the physical symptoms (got lots of hits), however this entire system/what we are living within seems to have been designed to FU and keep locked down any and all Tom’s ‘primarily’ i.e. as the highest priority!!!! Hence then I’m now suspicious that all previous fake software defined hacking ‘reality’ itself experience (that’s gone on for over a decade now) was to get to this point to try/attempt to undo the shit/networks disabling the Tom’s ‘specifically’ . . . seeing as we are made up ‘mostly’ of a population of about 350,000 peoples/subtle forms all ‘duplicated’ multiple times to make up the majority of the 7 billion+ population here!!! All pretty much insane from any angle you care to think about/evaluate this from!!!!

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    Megan
    March 13, 2020 @ 3:57 pm

    I’m still working with the new decision making focus, but I realized a huge factor as to my ability to make decisions for myself was heavily influence/affected by the people I dealt with around me, and what they felt/thought/believed/said/etc. But doing the Tom exercise you left…the only way I can describe it is like the neurons in the brain. I felt like one node interconnected to a whole bunch of other nodes.

    Your comment on assembly line efficiency is interesting. Personally, I loved my time as a machine operator because of the position of leadership and independence it gave me. Not to mention my changing interactions with people. I have a difficult time being led by others because they are often very disconnected and don’t care about those people working under them, only about their ego and production numbers. I was a lot like that before I learned the hard way what really mattered to me and changed how I handled people in a working environment. I learned to get to know those I work with and understand them better, and make sure they feel valued even if the work isn’t glamorous.

    Your comments on Tom GAC’s brought up the image of Miles Teg, the Bene Gesserit Bashar from the Dune series.

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        Clive
        March 22, 2020 @ 4:11 pm

        Latest latest 3rd April update/focus is NOW CLICK HERE

        OLD

        Hi Megan/EVERYONE, USE THIS FOCUS NOW, Megan this focus targets/fits directly with what you write in your comment “heavily influence/affected by the people I dealt with around me”

        As our personal trt’s including all trauma/shit is in one big mixed up ball/store then the focus below is the best one to target this shit pile accurately!!!!

        TARGETING THE COORDINATED TRANSFER & MAINTENANCE OF TRT’S VIA DIRECT & REMOTE INTERACTIONS, ENVIRONMENTAL DROP OFF POINTS etc. etc . . . the new focus below, is an adapted version of the most recent focus’s targetting all personal interactions while also targeting all angles of possibilities of transferring trt’s/trauma shit via closeness of proximity/environmental drop off/pick points and or dimensional doorways etc. . .

        . . . I connect to myself and to everywhere I’ve recently been and or everywhere I’ll be in the recent future . . . I connect to everyone I have recently been in close proximity too and to all people/everyone I’ll pass and or will be in close physical proximity to and or whom I’ll directly, indirectly and or remotely engage with in the next 24 hours . . . I connect to all of these past and future people and to all past and future places/locations I’ll spend time in and or pass though NOW . . . I connect to absolutely all items and components/everything that has been, is now and or would in the future contribute in the slightest to directly or indirectly track, predict and or coordinate the movement and or transfer of any persona/trt’s, trauma/shit/any ‘influences’ via any direct or indirect interactions and or by anything monitoring and or pre-defining and coordinating ‘ANYTHING’, BUT particularly the transfer of influences, trt’s and or anything representing these and or ANYTHING ELSE AT ALL between myself and or anyone else/any others and or via ANYTHING ELSE . . . ANYWHERE . . .

        . . . I connect to any and all combinations of components, items and or trt’s and or anything monitoring, pre-defining and or coordinating ANYTHING between me/others/people/anyone and or anything ‘representing’ anyone and or via their proximity within environment and or via anything acting as drop off and or pick up points/places and or anything functioning as a dimensional doorway and or ANYTHING ELSE/any combination of anything that has been is now and or would in the future directly or indirectly contribute to maintain and or increase my trauma/trt’s and or to block/prevent access to and or the release of ANY persona trt/trauma combinations and or contribute to reapply/restore any already released trauma/trt combinations including by recycling past traumatic memories/experiences and or any feelings/impacts of these and or anything else used to directly or indirectly ‘represent’ any past trauma/any traumatic event/situation/circumstances and or to use these and or anything else to maintain and or re traumatize, sabotage, block and or prevent me/anyone from accessing/engaging with my own and or anyone’s trauma/trt’s and or any impregnable/locked down caches/stores and or any type of ‘representation/obscure form’ of the same designed to prevent these from being found and or engaged with and or dealt with by intent/focuses/scans and or anything else . . . and or otherwise directly or indirectly contribute to any negative anticipation/preoccupation with respect to directly or indirectly contacting, meeting and or interacting/communicating with anyone and particularly with respect to myself experiencing ANY worry, anxiety, stress and or imagining any potential worst possible outcomes for myself . . .

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    Tommy
    March 22, 2020 @ 5:25 pm

    Gonna use it a bit later. I did focus 7 the target roles positions duties obligations and was feeling pretty good until I got my burritos. Got the burrito and while eating it I felt really really bad. Was with my mate who’s staying at my place but I totally flipped out. I acted normally but I really wanted him gone outta my house. My mates dad was really involved with rational Christian stuff the Portugese version he was a preacher or some higher up in that whatever it is. I suspect that my mate unknowingly been used to feed me shit. My ex also doesn’t pick up on that I want her to solve her own problems no one wants to put up ads so she can get people to rent her extra room. I did like 5 rounds on Facebook to get people for her but every time something happens that they don’t pick the room and I’m stuck with having to give her money which makes me angry because end of the month I’m in trouble. That mate who stays on my couch also isn’t very generous without having to hound him for it.

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    Megan
    March 23, 2020 @ 2:19 am

    I have tried everything in the world to bring a lot of the problems and issues I’ve seen in the world to the attention of those who could do something about it and have been shot down constantly, and it feels like being born a female is kind of the epitome of these problems.

    One thing I’ve noticed as I have overcome and resolved my own issues is I’ve gained a low-to-no tolerance policy for some of the drama and bullshit some of the people in my life have brought up and deal with, my mother and dealing with certain family members being the perfect example. My mother had no time or patience for the mental and emotional issues I faced growing up, and now turn about seems to be fair play for me in most cases with some of the people I deal with in life and this isn’t who I want to be or how I want to handle it.

    I see pictures of the ‘ideal’ female figure and the pleasure/lust/seduction expected from such a role and can say that if that is what is wanted or expected of females then I suppose I am not a female. When it comes to my body, I struggle trying to exercise or eating right or taking care of myself mentally and emotionally overall, but this constant lack of interest and motivation internally for myself causes a lot of frustration.

    I seem to have an internal defense mechanism against anything I would feel internally, not just of bad things, but of good things too. This reminds me of how I would daydream as a child to make up for the parental/social support, encouragement and motivation I lacked as a child, so I found a way to do it myself, but this has wound up with me having some rather misguided/bad/wrong expectations of people/spirits/society and how things work.

    There are still some things that I have done in the past that I have not forgiven myself for even though I am not doing them now and have no inkling to do so because I believe I should have had the awareness and willpower to control or stop it. I find it difficult to accept feelings of approval, love, support and acceptance from others and especially myself, often believing them to be lies and a waste of my time because nothing is ever right or okay or enough.

    The greatest pride/accomplishment I have in life is being able to take and follow orders and getting things done as quickly and effectively as possible and finding new ways to make it faster and better. To some effect, it is like being a soldier. I often feel and see myself fighting for or against something, especially something I think/feel/believe is wrong or that I am passionate about, yet at the same time this attitude and behavior has been detrimental in trying to change myself and how I see and do things.

    One of my ever-present attitudes and objectives for when we get out of here is to find some remote, isolated part of the subtle realm and stay as far away from others/society/civilization as possible.

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    Shalin
    March 29, 2020 @ 1:34 am

    Clive, I’ve done the 2 new focuses about 20-30 times day for the first few days then reduced to 5-10 times.

    I still get *NOTHING*.

    All of my physical symptoms/imbalances are as they’ve always been. All my traumas r repeatedly playing with frequent recycling of torturous memories/flash-backs, dreams, conflicts with friends/family members, continuous punishment with financial loss situations/circumstances, & everything else.

    Whats going on in my physical body has never occurred to any human avatar in the history of the EAAS.

    At this point I re-visit whether we truly understand what is causing & locking down my issues? So far we’ve postulated: Avatar switching shit, dragon avatar, leviathan/horse avatar & other on the fly scans you did of me.

    But none of those things have unraveled anything so far.

    It could be that we are on the wrong path and/or missing some very *key* pieces of the puzzle and/or missing what is *locking* what you’ve already discovered of me.

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        Clive
        April 3, 2020 @ 2:57 pm

        Shalin/EVERYONE read/latest focus . . . then an update at the bottom

        So, Shalin, it seems like ‘frustration’ would be an appropriate descriptor in terms of you consistently getting ‘nothing’ . . . on the other hand I’ve been having way more as well as consistent ‘releases’ of my past common as well as not so common ‘symptoms’ in the last few days (some of which I’d pretty much forgotten about) including base gut/abdomen physical body focused worry and anxiety as well as ‘head’ based stress ‘tension’ (results in my jaw literally completely ‘locking up’ when its very bad) . . . so as both of these have been in the background for quite a while/hardly noticeable then it seems to me that we’ve got access to more personal data caches/stores of these specific effects that relate to myself . . .

        So, here is yet another focus for everyone to preferentially use at the present time . . .

        CURRENT FOCUS TO TARGET ANYTHING MAINTAINING TRAUMA &/OR BLOCKING/SABOTAGING EFFECTIVE TRAUMA/ETC RELEASE EFFORTS

        Within the focus below, where you have ‘XYZ’ then have a think about the feelings/emotions (such as fear, sadness, frustration, anger) and or ‘reactions’ and or ‘states’ that you are aware of such as you being: reactive/over reactive or un-reactive/unresponsive and or emotionless, then any physical pain/discomfort (in my XYZ(stomach for example) and or ‘here’ i.e. mentally put your attention on the ‘sensation’) and or on any emotional pain (in your heart, kidneys, gut, abdomen, forehead, ???) and or any feelings/sensations of stress, tension, worry and or also then ‘think’ about any pre-‘worries’ and or ‘occupations’ about ‘anything’!!!!

        . . . I connect to any and all combinations of components that have been, are now and or would in the future contribute in the slightest to both maintain trauma (and or memories of trauma and or any traumatic memories) and or block access to and or prevent the release of ANY trauma and or persona/trt combinations (and or to block access to the memories of and or the release of trauma/trt’s from any memories of trauma and or traumatic circumstances/experiences and or anything representing these and or anything else representing ANY trauma and or persona/trt combinations and or anything contributing to myself feeling and or experiencing:

        ‘XYZ/state feelings/reactions/states/sensations and or has me worried/preoccupied/stressed . . . and or is contributing to pains/sensations in my ABC . . . ‘

        . . . and or anything that would in the slightest contribute to restore and or reapply any already released trauma and or trt combinations and or would try and maintain any persistent internal mental and or felt/emotional feeling and or sensation and or any reactive and or hurting/hurtful and or debilitating/pre-occupying states/conditions and or sensations and or ‘anything’ which is doing anything to maintain ANYTHING AT ALL/ANYTHING OF THESE . . . including by recycling past traumatic memories/experiences and or the feelings/impacts and or body sensations related to these/anything representing these/any past trauma/states/feelings/sensations and or anything directly or indirectly related to any past traumatic event/situation/circumstances and or anything using these and or anything else to traumatize, re traumatize, sabotage, block and or prevent me from accessing/engaging with my own and or anyone’s trauma/trt’s and or any physical, physiological, psychological and or any emotional ‘states and or hurts’ or any impregnable/locked down caches/stores or any type of ‘representation/obscure form’ of the same designed to not be engaged with and or released by any focus/scans including by targeted/directed intent/focuses/scans and or anything else . . .

        —————————————————————————-

        With respect to the current so called pam demik . . . here is a ‘fact’ . . . we’ve noticeably less flu/virus cases and also less deaths compared to the same date/time point with respect to last year’s flu season (as well as other recent previous years) and yet I’ve no recall either of any ‘pandemic’ announcement for any previous year nor of any ‘lockdown’ applied to any population either . . . hence then it’s seems to me (given the phase we/you reading this here are in AND particularly with respect to what I’ve been presenting here) that the current GROSS over reaction has VERY LIKELY been deliberately setup by the external/way up in the data system ‘designers/instigators’ of this FU place to facilitate their agenda AND PARTICULARLY with respect to not only the large groups of ‘Toms’ here BUT to many other sub population groups of other duplicated populations of other very, very ‘specific’ subtle people too!!!!

        As specific large groups of peoples personal/persona data are now being stored and ‘handled’ as a cloud of essentially ‘POOLED/SHARED’ data ‘AND’ how this shared data is used/selected basically determines how each specific person (as an individual) within the large/very big pool of the very same subtle person/form each behave, function and or respond under any/all circumstances then it’s like having one large data set representing all of the data that determines the scale and variety of how each of these VERSIONS OF THE SAME PEOPLE can respond/react and or behave under different conditions. Basically, it seems to me that with the ‘fake earth/EAAS’ set up here they are trying to generate a data set ‘pool’ with absolutely all ‘experience’ variations possible that would then allow them to very, very finely control the choices/decisions and or responses/actions of each of these people under a very large scale of circumstances and conditions.

        Basically, as a planetary population with many, many copies of the exact same person/subtle form everywhere here, inclusive of having many different countries each responding to the made up isn’t happening pandemonium causing demic then each different population/country (all of which will include many versions of the Toms as well as other specific ‘people’ and all other copies of the same original single person) then the ‘designers’ are very likely using these circumstances to create different as well as DIFFICULT/STRESSFUL circumstances (for example, maybe more equivalent to what you’d experience during say in a battle/war and or stressful conflict/standoff) so that they can then collect way more ‘samples’ specifically under ‘way more stressful/more difficult than usual’ conditions/circumstances!!!!

        In other words, it seems to me that the designers/instigators of our obviously fake reality version have set up and are using current pandemonium causing circumstances to expand upon while also refining/increasing the ‘resolution/fine detail’ of the data set of some very specific but large sub groups each composed of people representing the exact same person/subtle form here . . .

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    Shalin
    April 3, 2020 @ 4:27 pm

    Clive, yes it is extremely *frustrating* and very *disappointing* that I’m consistently getting *nothing* while doing focuses, which brings me to what I’ve postulated all along – my issues are so extreme & F$#k’d that I can’t effectively *feel* or *think* properly. The organs in my abdomen r so F$#k’d / locked up – that the gut/brain intelligence is severely negatively impacted.

    As a result, me trying to help myself by doing focus hasn’t helped us in any way unravel anything so far.

    Which brings me to ask – have you/Matt/Tom/Anyone-else have had any luck trying to discover locked down and/or hidden components/caches/data stores of me or anything related to myself?

    I feel like UNTIL a certain threshold of *SHIT* has been unraveled/removed I will continue to be ineffective in helping in this cause.

    It’s like I’m so full of SHIT that it’s severely impeding my ability to help myself get out of this using focus/scan/intent.

    Of course I will keep trying but it does seem like the above is the case.

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        Clive
        April 3, 2020 @ 5:18 pm

        Wow, you just don’t get it even when it’s directly explained to you Shalin!!!

        Your ‘main’ issues have been frustrating you for a very long time ERGO your biggest/super massive issue to deal with (so big you miss it all the time) is ‘frustration’ and hence then your being put into frustrating circumstances (to track, give access to and hence then attempt to find/release/get rid of stores of frustration) . . . I ‘have’ described myself being deliberately put into stressing wind/worrying up circumstances. For example, my computer (that I rely upon to write this) has been blue screening and or not booting up properly regularly recently, 2 or 3 times yesterday, sometimes it boots up and presents a blank screen and on getting access to the task manager – I find that NO TASKS ARE RUNNING i.e. it’s also got stuck in the BIOS os boot up system!?!?!?!) . . . all deliberately being done with respect to myself . . . to get access to and to help find/identify and hence then reduce in some cases well hidden and or well disguised and or locked down trt’s/caches related to worry stress anxiety!!!!

        This is one of the all time piss-takes of this reality i.e. having to be in the reaction/wind up side effects of other issues/those that you want to resolve specifically to release the feeling/frustration/despair/anger (or whatever) and or reaction effects you’ve had to being in/still being in specific ‘shit’ issues that are the ones you want to get rid of . . .

        In other words doing the focuses and GETTING NO WHERE ‘recently’ has been part of trying to get access to and then release your build up of frustration!!!!!

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    Megan
    April 3, 2020 @ 9:06 pm

    Using the latest focus to target my relationship issues and problems with intimacy, especially with men, I get that the ‘assembly line efficiency’ thing has something to do with it. It’s like I have a certain goal/objective/purpose that I have and anything that deals with anything outside of this is a waste of time or trying to sabotage me.

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    Megan
    April 8, 2020 @ 12:56 am

    Shalin, besides the focuses, what else are you doing to engage with your frustration?

    -0-

    This is what I got using the current focus over the last couple of days.
    I get the impression that I am to blame for the current plague/pandemic. This reminds me of the Black Death and my suspicions that I was a witch in another life. I was urged to play through the game Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice, and towards the end of the game there is a cut scene where Senua watched her mother (who had the same gifts as Senua) being burned alive at the stake by her own father to appease the gods. Watching the cutscene, I saw and felt, in my solar plexus, myself collapse to the ground in frustration and grief crying out into the sky in pain, betrayal and madness.

    In terms of dealing with spirits and spirit-keeping, I realize that in the past I have called upon or used spirits as ‘meat-shields’, calling upon them to sacrifice themselves for my happiness and safety. I also realize that I have also called upon them seeking vengeance and revenge.

    I get the impression that there was some heavy Christian conversion stuff that happened to me and my friends and family are the biggest targets for this to happen. I see my roommate and my supervisor as being the biggest agents for this to happen in my life at this point. I get the impression that I attempted to make a deal with the Christians (or with someone important/powerful.) A life of obedience in exchange for escape. I feel like I was trying to get away from someone, my past or friends and family or something, and I chose Christianity as a means of escape. I did not want to feel anything for anyone anymore. I also think some part of me is still praying for other people in a way. I chose a life of poverty so I wouldn’t be hurt anymore. I also realize I really don’t know how to keep friends/people in my life unless I bribe or please them in someway.

    I have always said I want to help others, and I see that this desire/intention of mine has been twisted into a life of service to others. My present job position or just doing work for another person comes to mind and even thoughts about self-sacrifice for a cause (volunteering.) I have always wanted to start my own business or do something of my own that would make me financially independent and self-sufficient and give me the time to do the things I want to do, but for all the things I try to start I can never get things off the ground and I feel like I don’t have the right resources internally to stick to it and get it off the ground. I also get the impression that my desire to help others is also a part of a system of reward and punishment. Like I am rewarded and praised if I work for someone else or do what someone else tells me, but if I don’t want to do what they do or want to do something of my own design I get punished for it.

    My thoughts stray to my own disinterest in exercising and I see images of a fat, half-naked king sitting on a thrown. I find it funny that way back when being fat was a sign of wealth and prosperity while nowadays it is a sign of laziness, shame, and bad health.

    I absolutely hate nice/positive people, more for the fact that I can’t argue against their so called ‘light/right’ point of view because I can acutely feel their ‘pain/upset’ if I do. I have a very nasty habit of agreeing with certain people in order to keep the peace and keep them off my back, my mother being a perfect example.

    I think back on the tv shows/music/movies/anime/comics/manga/video games I have played in my life and realize that none of these things can ever make up for what I lack or really want in life.

    I want to share my experiences with others but on the other hand I don’t even want to bother because they aren’t going to get it or even try to understand. What hurts the most, especially in my case as I have experienced it, is when I have tried to share these things with people they treated me as if I was sick or insane or making it up, like the pain I was in was imaginary or attention seeking and just didn’t matter. In the end I was condemned for madness, weakness and pity.

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    Shalin
    April 14, 2020 @ 4:09 am

    Clive, side comment related to the *pandemic*. It seems many governments are using this fake pandemic to pass draconian laws to take away civil liberties & push forward the forced vaccination & UN agenda 2030. Bill Gates, the Clintons and others are major figures in this push but there are many cabal/illuminati types pushing this.

    Incidentally, I came across a documentary that perfectly unpacks what has been going on here in the EAAS in the last 120 years with un-elected/shadowy power structures ruling EAAS. This PANDEMIC seems to be a page right out of the play book of these un-elected/shadowy power structures.

    The documentary is quite long with the focus being who/what was behind the assassination of JFK, although it begins by setting the context by starting from the First World War, Russian Revolution of 1917-18, and lead up to Nazi Germany and World War 2. The same power structures were behind the 9/11 attacks in New York City & largely every major terrorist attack/bombing.

    https://you t u.be/d0plgCrvV_k

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    Shalin
    April 17, 2020 @ 9:37 pm

    Megan/Clive, what I’m doing to engage with my frustrations? Well for the last 5 years being in this physical hell it wasn’t clear to me what exactly it was that was causing my problems. All I knew was that I had experienced an endless list of emotional traumas/hurts etc.

    For every ounce of trapped frustration within my data stores/caches there are likely equal stores of everything else – anger, rage, resentment, fear, worry, grief, sadness, stress, tension etc because thats what my life has been about – unfortunate circumstances/experiences & repeated trauma.

    I try to engage with all of these emotions, traumas, experiences thru the focuses but I don’t get any clues/insights as I’ve mentioned. I don’t know where the hidden stores/caches are and I don’t know what is maintaining the frustrations/traumas/emotions or recycling/restoring them.

    BUT again, I don’t think its SHIT messing with my conscious mind so much as it is SHIT just trapped within my data stores/caches causing my physical imbalances. I’ve done a lot of cognitive behavior therapy on myself during these last 5 years -I’m no longer mad/angry with my father for how he treated me when I was young. Since I’m not in the dating scene I don’t need to worry about HIV/STDs, which was a source of extreme fear/worry/anxiety accumulation within my stores/caches in the past. I do have investments and as the financial markets go up/down lately due to all the volatility I do get worry/frustration/anger from that from time to time. I also do have persistent fear/worry because I’m afraid the 24/7 gastric fluids destroying my esophagus/nasal-canal/throat will lead to complications/cancer.

    And lately, I’ve been watching a lot of documentaries about the activities of the cabal and the leftist governments around the world in cahoots with them using the pandemic or perhaps even creating the pandemic intentionally to bring down Trump to continue with their agenda – take away our freedoms, one world government ruled by a select few elites etc. That has created some persistent anxiety/worry.

    As well, as you know I’ve had tremendous frustration from all the life events – failed romantic relationships, unfavorable work/career related outcomes, unfavorable investment outcomes, poverty circumstances, working under extremely difficult/tedious/stressful/frustrating circumstances/situations and on and on.

    I’ve disengaged from a lot of that. I’m not in a romantic relationship right now and I’ve taken a leave of absence from work/career. So I’ve removed those sources from adding to whatever frustration is already present in my data stores/caches.

    GIVEN ALL THAT, as I previously mentioned its not so much what is in my conscious mind as it is what is in my stores/caches that is causing my physical imbalances that is the problem. I’m NOT experiencing daily frustrations from any of the many sources of frustration that have previously led to the accumulation of frustration within my stores/caches. I’m not working so no risk of experiencing work related frustration which I’ve had so much of in the past. No wife/girlfriend so no frustration from romantic relationships.

    The frustration now is related to:

    A) NOT being able to live my life because of my physical imbalances
    B) Get out of the physical hell before it kills me

    #A above is a huge bucket of frustration because it basically cuts off all hope to ever get out of this hell to be able to live a normal life. I am unable to see a life beyond my current situation as it is impossible for me to see myself well/healthy and out of this hell to experience what it feels like just to wake up in the morning and not have the unbearable physical imbalances/symptoms destroying my body.

    A normal person usually has a lot of things to look forward to – romance, a trip/vacation, career/job advances, learning new skills, making love, engaging with their hobbies, meeting up with friends or family, it can be anything. For me all of that has been destroyed because of my extreme physical imbalances/symptoms. I don’t know what it feels like just to wake up in the morning, see the sunlight pouring into the room and feel happy and grateful to be alive. To enjoy a cup of coffee outside listening to the birds chirp. I cant do any of that and I cant even visualize it because I’ve been so trapped/stuck in this hell for so long now. I don’t know how it feels to be normal. What does a normal body feel like? I don’t know any more because it’s been so long.

    I see my friends living every day life – going for a jog, having a cup of coffee, going on vacation, going out to eat, laughing, smiling, whatever – they can do it because they have healthy bodies – they aren’t in maximum physical pain or discomfort every second of the day or night.

    So I engage by focuses and by self cognitive behavior therapy but it appears that whatever is causing, maintaining, recycling, restoring my issues has a firm grip and no amount of mental exercises I can do seems to help.

    These past 2 weeks I’ve had a lot of dreams and I often wake up in the middle of the night with symptoms worsened and in fear/worry states. Maybe that is wsw teams putting me in such dreams to get me into certain states to then track/find/release but so far I haven’t noticed any releases of any kind. I also have not noticed being placed into any past trauma or negative emotion states as what is happening now has been happing for the last 5 years so my every minute/second feels the exact same and is difficult for me to decipher if those outside/wsw teams r able to work on me.

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        Megan
        May 8, 2020 @ 5:50 pm

        Shalin, what I am sharing is how I was taught to facilitate myself and how I have learned to use the focuses. All of this is from my experience and perspective. I am not Clive. I have not been doing this as long as he has, but this is how I have come to see and understand things based on my experiences.

        When I first started doing the focuses, I experienced a lot of frustration too. Here I was reading comments from people who reading the focuses and seeing these amazing thing and contributing to the discussion, and here I was feeling frustrated, exhausted and getting a whole lot of nothing except more of the same of what I have always felt all my life. I eventually got to the point where I hated even thinking about the focuses since they weren’t doing me any good. It was only later that I realized that I was using these focuses with an expectation of everything – my pain my anger, frustration, etc. – just magically disappearing.

        Months into doing this and feeling like crap I was guided, and this is/was gut-guidance, to stop doing the focuses and to try something else. I was instructed to get a pen and a notebook, and I was ‘asked’ to ask myself this simple question, “What am I feeling?” I was guided to do a mental scan of my body, where was this feeling trapped (gut, heart, throat, lower back, etc.); how did I feel about it (good or bad? If I didn’t feel good (=happy/joyful) but I didn’t feel bad (=angry/in pain) did it feel dead like nothing (nothing can be something too. For me it represented a block/barrier); what did it feel like (tight like a knot, hard like a rock, thick like sludge); and what did this feeling remind me of (past memories/people/movies/music/etc.)? My mental focus was trained on my lower chakras (my root, sacral, solar plexus) and for most if not all of this time, this is where everything I dealt with came from.

        This was my primary focus for months. I had stopped doing focuses for the most part (I did new ones as they came out but put them down not long after) but I primarily kept my focus on identifying and reconnecting my mind with my emotions/lower chakras. Anytime I identified or connected to an emotion and my mind/consciousness/whatever went off on a tangent blaming other people (well my mother didn’t do this…, my dad did that…, so and so did something…, etc.) I was pressed with a critical question, “What did I want?” I was forced to figure out and admit my wants/desires/needs/expectations in situations no matter how reasonable or unreasonable/’good or bad’ they were.

        Doing this went on for months before I was finally guided and encouraged to start working with the focuses again, and I was finally able to actually start seeing things while using the focuses, but the most important thing I have gained through any of this is empathy and compassion for myself. I am still learning and I am not perfect, but I am able to do more things in my life, and can deal with some of the things that did or would have stopped me before WSW on the fly, in public, hell even at work in front of my co-workers (granted all it is internal work so I don’t really say much except cry to myself.) But all of these things are baby steps. They aren’t fixed in an instant or even over night (most of the time.)

        In the process of doing all of this, I have had to throw away everything that I thought/understood/believed about healing whether it related to light work/New Age angles or even psychology. Clive has even commented, (December 27, 2015 @ 12:11 pm), “‘Everything’ you list above plus the likes of EFT, TFT, NLP, CBT, SE (cognitive behavioural therapy / Somatic Experience) works as I’ve described on the scary pages. They all ‘adjust’ people while never actually opening to / dealing with the underlying embedded: trauma / pain / stress / anxiety etc.”

        A big thing about all of this is I was forced to learn how to express my pain and cry again, even in public as I have mentioned above. I have had cried a lot of tears into my pillows, I have spent hours on end journaling my every thought, feeling, etc just following my pain and anger and frustration and grief, I have driven down the interstate crying bloody murder in the middle of the night because it was the only place I could safely do so. Which begs the question, do you have a place you can be that emotionally honest and raw with yourself? I was renting an apartment when I was going through all of this so it made expressing myself out loud rather difficult.

        It sounds like you have been trying to mentally and emotionally balance your sanity on the head of a pin for quite a while Shalin, and for what it is worth I am sorry to hear about the things you have had to endure in all this. The focuses are working, but realize that even when the focuses or Clive or the WSW teams remove/take care of the original issue (whatever it may be) that does not mean that your soul hasn’t been left unscathed, however that may be. Right now, don’t worry too much on ‘seeing’ anything and focus more on reconnecting with yourself emotionally.

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    Megan
    August 9, 2020 @ 7:07 pm

    I started watching Farscape a while back, and I got the impression that the Peacekeepers represented the Tom split/duplicate of the General/Admiral/Commander roles and security you have mentioned previously. While I will say I didn’t really feel a connection to either Moya or Pilot, I do have an affinity to pegasi, unicorns and their like in a deep, emotional way (though it couldn’t possibly be because I was born in the year of the Horse according to Chinese astrology, could it?)

    I had an interesting conversation with a friend where we were talking about the difficulties we have had with our mothers. What I saw, as she was telling me about a friend of hers who had similar difficulties, was a woman laying on her side who was pregnant, yet not pregnant. Despite having been pregnant and having already given birth and the umbilical cord had been cut there was still an emotional/energetic umbilical cord attached between mother and child and from this pair I saw things spiderweb down through the generations.

    Still dealing with a lot heart and neck issues. Sometimes the soreness in my neck would get so bad it felt like a noose was around my neck (big surprise, hehe.) However things are being done for me I feel it slowly making its way towards my head.

    I get the impression that as a healer I was ‘forced’ to ‘retire’, and even after that I was constantly harassed to make sure things stayed that way. I am also noticing that although I am not formally trained as a ‘healer’ people still come to me with their problems like I am one in a way. It leaves me feeling bitter and resentful at times how selfish they can be at times.

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        Clive
        August 10, 2020 @ 4:35 pm

        They’ll likely be many anomalies related to people here simulating someone whom was maybe interfaced to a very, very different animal species type (that we don’t even have presented here), such that ‘for example’ some species maybe carry 1 or 2 or 3 developing fetus’s/babies each at different stages of development which would also possibly have them being pregnant over a longer period compared to other species while also giving birth to a single baby maybe 2 or three separate times when pregnant too!!!! That would be quite possible!!! Try explaining that to your friend – haha!!!!

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    XY
    December 15, 2020 @ 1:26 pm

    Hi clive! I came upon your site when i asked to know the truth about our reality. I have been steadily reading through the articles you have posted on this site and would like to thank you for what you are doing and would try my best to help in your research through the exercises in the future. Cheers!

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    Melissa
    June 3, 2021 @ 7:22 am

    I just did these two focuses. I am having issues with swallowing. It seems like there is a block to swallow. Because it won’t let me swallow properly there is like pressure and saliva in my mouth. I also am struggling with deep breaths and it feels like everything in my lung and upper abdomen is smashed flat and it won’t let me breathe properly. Swallowing and breathing are a issue. It feels like I am being blocked from doing that. What focuses would you recommend that I do for this Clive?

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        Clive
        June 6, 2021 @ 4:26 pm

        Hi Melissa, I suspect that we are in an ‘upper shits/fake designed software reality’ i.e. data system owners research phase i.e. it is very likely that they are trying out different sabotages/debilitations and or also ‘improvement/shit reversals’ on different people within our population.

        For example ‘today’ I find that I cannot view any of my sites in my firefox browser (I use this all the time). although, in just checking now pretty much every site I try and view/browse in Firefox results in a “Gah. Your tab just crashed” message (even Ebay and Amazon?!?!?!).

        So, when I access ‘soul-healer.com’ (this site) I always get a crash notice BUT when I access the same site as an administrator (to check on comments or to update plugins etc.) I get ‘normal’ access and can (at the moment) seemingly do anything within the ‘administrator’ space (at least at the moment). Fortunately I’ve got all of my important browser links in Yandex which (in just checking now) seems to work as it should (at least at the moment).

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    Melissa
    June 4, 2021 @ 3:32 am

    After I did the focus about my breathing issues I found out that my breathing parts are energetically pinned down with a plug or a nail or something like that and someone said that they wouldn’t take that off till I come back to the past life. I have been getting this message for like ten years or more. They won’t tell me how to get there but they want me to go back to the past life to them. My chest can’t breathe deeply my abdomen is blocked from breathing and my throat gets blocked. It got better after I did the focus but that one part is still blocked and it went back to all being blocked the next day.

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    November 22, 2021 @ 2:10 pm

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